The government seem bent on it. Is there anyone who, if they have listened 
to government spin over the last few weeks, hadn't been led to believe that 
Brown was going to crown his relaunch with monetary help for the poor for 
their energy bills? Only last weekend there was Brown spouting on about he 
was listening to people and and was getting on with the job to do all he can 
to help them with rising food and energy prices. Last night he announced 
there would be no money to help the poor. It seems that a one off solution 
is too "short term". He is going to help them with lagging their lofts so 
they save money in the "long term". I sure my old Dad , who is in his 90s, 
and other elderly people will be delighted that they will be given a long 
term solution to their energy bills. All Brown has done has fed more gloom 
and disillusionment. Why doesn't he be honest for once and just tell 
everyone there is f*ck all we can do to help you because like Mother 
Hubbard, our cupboard is bare!

"Toooldtocare"  wrote in message 
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> The government seem bent on it. Is there anyone who, if they have listened 
> to government spin over the last few weeks, hadn't been led to believe 
> that Brown was going to crown his relaunch with monetary help for the poor 
> for their energy bills? Only last weekend there was Brown spouting on 
> about he was listening to people and and was getting on with the job to do 
> all he can to help them with rising food and energy prices. Last night he 
> announced there would be no money to help the poor. It seems that a one 
> off solution is too "short term". He is going to help them with lagging 
> their lofts so they save money in the "long term". I sure my old Dad , who 
> is in his 90s, and other elderly people will be delighted that they will 
> be given a long term solution to their energy bills. All Brown has done 
> has fed more gloom and disillusionment. Why doesn't he be honest for once 
> and just tell everyone there is f*ck all we can do to help you because 
> like Mother Hubbard, our cupboard is bare!

... because they (Ministers) are so insulated from reality, they think that 
everyone has 3 houses, a 100k expense account and a fleet of cars and 
assistants.  Also probably find anyone who hasn't reached these lofty 
heights of existance ridiculous and down to their own poverty induced 
lazyness and ineptitude :-)

Remember what I said about our new royal family a long time ago?  Can't you 
hear the sound of "let them eat cake" bouncing around those corridors of 
power?

When the times are hard - that's when you see what people are made of and I 
don't think there is one person in any party that is currently going to have 
the stones to take us through what it looks like is coming. 


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On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:20:37 +0100, "Toooldtocare" 
wrote:

>The government seem bent on it. Is there anyone who, if they have listened 
>to government spin over the last few weeks, hadn't been led to believe that 
>Brown was going to crown his relaunch with monetary help for the poor for 
>their energy bills? 

I wasn't led to believe any such thing. I knew the cunt was lying once again.
Nulabour don't give fuck about the poor, about hard working famillies, about
the working class except at election time. The wheel 'em out as required then
punt them back into the lower drawer when it's over. They do care about the
middle and upper middle classes but they really love the class they most 
aspire to the filthy stinking rich. (I'm talking about tthe MPs, MSP, MEPs NOT
yer ordinary party member who gets shit on from a far higher height than we do.
The elected members rarely socialize with then now!) 

>Only last weekend there was Brown spouting on about he 
>was listening to people and and was getting on with the job to do all he can 
>to help them with rising food and energy prices. Last night he announced 
>there would be no money to help the poor. 

There is no money for the poor because the corporations and industrialists
nulabour have been cosying up to have left the country and based themselves
else where. In any case the money would be taken from one set of the poor
to give to another. The stinking filthy rich, who by the way pay next to no tax,
have the money but no way will this bunch touch them. 

>It seems that a one off solution 
>is too "short term". He is going to help them with lagging their lofts so 
>they save money in the "long term". I sure my old Dad , who is in his 90s, 
>and other elderly people will be delighted that they will be given a long 
>term solution to their energy bills. All Brown has done has fed more gloom 
>and disillusionment

Yes. He raises expectations he cannot satisfy. The man is out of touch with
the "common man", "hard working famillies" and political reality but I bet the
elected members are well in touch with their individual bank ballance. 
I reckon he believes he can con us all of the time. It's trully sick. Some of
those bastards are running around with two houses furnished by the people
who are about to lose the only one thay have. I could point out more of the
benefits of our elected reps but I would need a sick bag handy.

> Why doesn't he be honest for once and just tell 
>everyone there is f*ck all we can do to help you because like Mother 
>Hubbard, our cupboard is bare!
>

Look. Why don't you get a life! Honesty in a politician. No wonder the
country is so fucked up. The cupboard is not bare. We cah spend  billions
on wars far away, on all sorts of aid, bailling out financial houses..........
......feathering the nests of MPs, MSPs. MEPS...who sit back and tell us what
they cannot do for us.  Our money. Get yer head out of your fucking arse and
look around you. 

And bye the way I hold the Tory Party, the English voter for the fucking mess
this cunt Salmon is about to sink us into. 

Honesty in a politician. 

Thankyou for your interest.

Bill.

"Bill Carson"  wrote in message 
news:src2c4p61b91u0keufkq4van6cq9sf6t4i@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:20:37 +0100, "Toooldtocare" 
> 
> wrote:
>
>>The government seem bent on it. Is there anyone who, if they have listened
>>to government spin over the last few weeks, hadn't been led to believe 
>>that
>>Brown was going to crown his relaunch with monetary help for the poor for
>>their energy bills?
>
> I wasn't led to believe any such thing. I knew the cunt was lying once 
> again.
> Nulabour don't give fuck about the poor, about hard working famillies, 
> about
> the working class except at election time. The wheel 'em out as required 
> then
> punt them back into the lower drawer when it's over. They do care about 
> the
> middle and upper middle classes but they really love the class they most
> aspire to the filthy stinking rich. (I'm talking about tthe MPs, MSP, MEPs 
> NOT
> yer ordinary party member who gets shit on from a far higher height than 
> we do.
> The elected members rarely socialize with then now!)
>
>>Only last weekend there was Brown spouting on about he
>>was listening to people and and was getting on with the job to do all he 
>>can
>>to help them with rising food and energy prices. Last night he announced
>>there would be no money to help the poor.
>
> There is no money for the poor because the corporations and industrialists
> nulabour have been cosying up to have left the country and based 
> themselves
> else where. In any case the money would be taken from one set of the poor
> to give to another. The stinking filthy rich, who by the way pay next to 
> no tax,
> have the money but no way will this bunch touch them.
>
>>It seems that a one off solution
>>is too "short term". He is going to help them with lagging their lofts so
>>they save money in the "long term". I sure my old Dad , who is in his 90s,
>>and other elderly people will be delighted that they will be given a long
>>term solution to their energy bills. All Brown has done has fed more gloom
>>and disillusionment
>
> Yes. He raises expectations he cannot satisfy. The man is out of touch 
> with
> the "common man", "hard working famillies" and political reality but I bet 
> the
> elected members are well in touch with their individual bank ballance.
> I reckon he believes he can con us all of the time. It's trully sick. Some 
> of
> those bastards are running around with two houses furnished by the people
> who are about to lose the only one thay have. I could point out more of 
> the
> benefits of our elected reps but I would need a sick bag handy.
>
>> Why doesn't he be honest for once and just tell
>>everyone there is f*ck all we can do to help you because like Mother
>>Hubbard, our cupboard is bare!
>>
>
> Look. Why don't you get a life! Honesty in a politician. No wonder the
> country is so fucked up. The cupboard is not bare. We cah spend  billions
> on wars far away, on all sorts of aid, bailling out financial 
> houses..........
> ......feathering the nests of MPs, MSPs. MEPS...who sit back and tell us 
> what
> they cannot do for us.  Our money. Get yer head out of your fucking arse 
> and
> look around you.
>
> And bye the way I hold the Tory Party, the English voter for the fucking 
> mess
> this cunt Salmon is about to sink us into.
>
> Honesty in a politician.
>
> Thankyou for your interest.

Thank you Bill.That told me! Unfortunately I'm still trying to pull my head 
out of somewhere unpleasant. When I've succeeded, maybe if I have a few 
tonight it might plop out, I'll add something to your rant. Bloody good one 
it was too. We ain't seen anger like that since....? well, 2005!

We used to sing that to the Proclaimers every Tuesday night when they played 
in my local, soon you guys will be able to sing it to Gordo.

The sad thing is, it will be me who is getting him back :((

On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:11:36 +0100, "Toooldtocare" 
wrote:

>Thank you Bill.That told me! Unfortunately I'm still trying to pull my head 
>out of somewhere unpleasant. When I've succeeded, maybe if I have a few 
>tonight it might plop out, I'll add something to your rant. Bloody good one 
>it was too. We ain't seen anger like that since....? well, 2005! 

Nothing personal. You think that's anger you should read my stuff once I get
started........and it's all solid stuff!

Bill.

"Bill Carson"  wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:11:36 +0100, "Toooldtocare" 
> 
> wrote:
>
>>Thank you Bill.That told me! Unfortunately I'm still trying to pull my 
>>head
>>out of somewhere unpleasant. When I've succeeded, maybe if I have a few
>>tonight it might plop out, I'll add something to your rant. Bloody good 
>>one
>>it was too. We ain't seen anger like that since....? well, 2005!
>
> Nothing personal. You think that's anger you should read my stuff once I 
> get
> started........and it's all solid stuff!

I didn't take it so. You've come to the right place.

"Bill Carson"  wrote in message 
news:src2c4p61b91u0keufkq4van6cq9sf6t4i@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:20:37 +0100, "Toooldtocare" 
> 
> wrote:
>
>>The government seem bent on it. Is there anyone who, if they have listened
>>to government spin over the last few weeks, hadn't been led to believe 
>>that
>>Brown was going to crown his relaunch with monetary help for the poor for
>>their energy bills?
>
> I wasn't led to believe any such thing. I knew the cunt was lying once 
> again.
> Nulabour don't give fuck about the poor, about hard working famillies, 
> about
> the working class except at election time. The wheel 'em out as required 
> then
> punt them back into the lower drawer when it's over. They do care about 
> the
> middle and upper middle classes but they really love the class they most
> aspire to the filthy stinking rich. (I'm talking about tthe MPs, MSP, MEPs 
> NOT
> yer ordinary party member who gets shit on from a far higher height than 
> we do.
> The elected members rarely socialize with then now!)
>
>>Only last weekend there was Brown spouting on about he
>>was listening to people and and was getting on with the job to do all he 
>>can
>>to help them with rising food and energy prices. Last night he announced
>>there would be no money to help the poor.
>
> There is no money for the poor because the corporations and industrialists
> nulabour have been cosying up to have left the country and based 
> themselves
> else where. In any case the money would be taken from one set of the poor
> to give to another. The stinking filthy rich, who by the way pay next to 
> no tax,
> have the money but no way will this bunch touch them.
>
>>It seems that a one off solution
>>is too "short term". He is going to help them with lagging their lofts so
>>they save money in the "long term". I sure my old Dad , who is in his 90s,
>>and other elderly people will be delighted that they will be given a long
>>term solution to their energy bills. All Brown has done has fed more gloom
>>and disillusionment
>
> Yes. He raises expectations he cannot satisfy. The man is out of touch 
> with
> the "common man", "hard working famillies" and political reality but I bet 
> the
> elected members are well in touch with their individual bank ballance.
> I reckon he believes he can con us all of the time. It's trully sick. Some 
> of
> those bastards are running around with two houses furnished by the people
> who are about to lose the only one thay have. I could point out more of 
> the
> benefits of our elected reps but I would need a sick bag handy.
>
>> Why doesn't he be honest for once and just tell
>>everyone there is f*ck all we can do to help you because like Mother
>>Hubbard, our cupboard is bare!
>>
>
> Look. Why don't you get a life! Honesty in a politician. No wonder the
> country is so fucked up. The cupboard is not bare. We cah spend  billions
> on wars far away, on all sorts of aid, bailling out financial 
> houses..........
> ......feathering the nests of MPs, MSPs. MEPS...who sit back and tell us 
> what
> they cannot do for us.  Our money. Get yer head out of your fucking arse 
> and
> look around you.
>
> And bye the way I hold the Tory Party, the English voter for the fucking 
> mess
> this cunt Salmon is about to sink us into.
>
> Honesty in a politician.
>
> Thankyou for your interest.

8/10 for content, 10/10 for emotion.  Nice one Bill - I agree with most of 
your sentiment. 


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On Sep 5, 11:11 am, "Toooldtocare"  wrote:
> "Bill Carson"  wrote in message
>
> news:src2c4p61b91u0keufkq4van6cq9sf6t4i@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:20:37 퍝, "Toooldtocare"
> > 
> > wrote:
>
> >>The government seem bent on it. Is there anyone who, if they have listened
> >>to government spin over the last few weeks, hadn't been led to believe
> >>that
> >>Brown was going to crown his relaunch with monetary help for the poor for
> >>their energy bills?
>
> > I wasn't led to believe any such thing. I knew the cunt was lying once
> > again.
> > Nulabour don't give fuck about the poor, about hard working famillies,
> > about
> > the working class except at election time. The wheel 'em out as required
> > then
> > punt them back into the lower drawer when it's over. They do care about
> > the
> > middle and upper middle classes but they really love the class they most
> > aspire to the filthy stinking rich. (I'm talking about tthe MPs, MSP, MEPs
> > NOT
> > yer ordinary party member who gets shit on from a far higher height than
> > we do.
> > The elected members rarely socialize with then now!)
>
> >>Only last weekend there was Brown spouting on about he
> >>was listening to people and and was getting on with the job to do all he
> >>can
> >>to help them with rising food and energy prices. Last night he announced
> >>there would be no money to help the poor.
>
> > There is no money for the poor because the corporations and industrialists
> > nulabour have been cosying up to have left the country and based
> > themselves
> > else where. In any case the money would be taken from one set of the poor
> > to give to another. The stinking filthy rich, who by the way pay next to
> > no tax,
> > have the money but no way will this bunch touch them.
>
> >>It seems that a one off solution
> >>is too "short term". He is going to help them with lagging their lofts so
> >>they save money in the "long term". I sure my old Dad , who is in his 90s,
> >>and other elderly people will be delighted that they will be given a long
> >>term solution to their energy bills. All Brown has done has fed more gloom
> >>and disillusionment
>
> > Yes. He raises expectations he cannot satisfy. The man is out of touch
> > with
> > the "common man", "hard working famillies" and political reality but I bet
> > the
> > elected members are well in touch with their individual bank ballance.
> > I reckon he believes he can con us all of the time. It's trully sick. Some
> > of
> > those bastards are running around with two houses furnished by the people
> > who are about to lose the only one thay have. I could point out more of
> > the
> > benefits of our elected reps but I would need a sick bag handy.
>
> >> Why doesn't he be honest for once and just tell
> >>everyone there is f*ck all we can do to help you because like Mother
> >>Hubbard, our cupboard is bare!
>
> > Look. Why don't you get a life! Honesty in a politician. No wonder the
> > country is so fucked up. The cupboard is not bare. We cah spend  billions
> > on wars far away, on all sorts of aid, bailling out financial
> > houses..........
> > ......feathering the nests of MPs, MSPs. MEPS...who sit back and tell us
> > what
> > they cannot do for us.  Our money. Get yer head out of your fucking arse
> > and
> > look around you.
>
> > And bye the way I hold the Tory Party, the English voter for the fucking
> > mess
> > this cunt Salmon is about to sink us into.
>
> > Honesty in a politician.
>
> > Thankyou for your interest.
>
> Thank you Bill.That told me! Unfortunately I'm still trying to pull my head
> out of somewhere unpleasant. When I've succeeded, maybe if I have a few
> tonight it might plop out, I'll add something to your rant. Bloody good one
> it was too. We ain't seen anger like that since....? well, 2005!

We all know that Gordon is a Moron though. The little fat f8cker even
looks stupid.

"Eyebee"  wrote in message
news:8b8c1b03-8518-425d-9794-519f965a17cd@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 5, 11:11 am, "Toooldtocare"  wrote:
> "Bill Carson"  wrote in message
>
> news:src2c4p61b91u0keufkq4van6cq9sf6t4i@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:20:37 +0100, "Toooldtocare"
> > 
> > wrote:
>
> >>The government seem bent on it. Is there anyone who, if they have
listened
> >>to government spin over the last few weeks, hadn't been led to believe
> >>that
> >>Brown was going to crown his relaunch with monetary help for the poor
for
> >>their energy bills?
>
> > I wasn't led to believe any such thing. I knew the cunt was lying once
> > again.
> > Nulabour don't give fuck about the poor, about hard working famillies,
> > about
> > the working class except at election time. The wheel 'em out as required
> > then
> > punt them back into the lower drawer when it's over. They do care about
> > the
> > middle and upper middle classes but they really love the class they most
> > aspire to the filthy stinking rich. (I'm talking about tthe MPs, MSP,
MEPs
> > NOT
> > yer ordinary party member who gets shit on from a far higher height than
> > we do.
> > The elected members rarely socialize with then now!)
>
> >>Only last weekend there was Brown spouting on about he
> >>was listening to people and and was getting on with the job to do all he
> >>can
> >>to help them with rising food and energy prices. Last night he announced
> >>there would be no money to help the poor.
>
> > There is no money for the poor because the corporations and
industrialists
> > nulabour have been cosying up to have left the country and based
> > themselves
> > else where. In any case the money would be taken from one set of the
poor
> > to give to another. The stinking filthy rich, who by the way pay next to
> > no tax,
> > have the money but no way will this bunch touch them.
>
> >>It seems that a one off solution
> >>is too "short term". He is going to help them with lagging their lofts
so
> >>they save money in the "long term". I sure my old Dad , who is in his
90s,
> >>and other elderly people will be delighted that they will be given a
long
> >>term solution to their energy bills. All Brown has done has fed more
gloom
> >>and disillusionment
>
> > Yes. He raises expectations he cannot satisfy. The man is out of touch
> > with
> > the "common man", "hard working famillies" and political reality but I
bet
> > the
> > elected members are well in touch with their individual bank ballance.
> > I reckon he believes he can con us all of the time. It's trully sick.
Some
> > of
> > those bastards are running around with two houses furnished by the
people
> > who are about to lose the only one thay have. I could point out more of
> > the
> > benefits of our elected reps but I would need a sick bag handy.
>
> >> Why doesn't he be honest for once and just tell
> >>everyone there is f*ck all we can do to help you because like Mother
> >>Hubbard, our cupboard is bare!
>
> > Look. Why don't you get a life! Honesty in a politician. No wonder the
> > country is so fucked up. The cupboard is not bare. We cah spend billions
> > on wars far away, on all sorts of aid, bailling out financial
> > houses..........
> > ......feathering the nests of MPs, MSPs. MEPS...who sit back and tell us
> > what
> > they cannot do for us. Our money. Get yer head out of your fucking arse
> > and
> > look around you.
>
> > And bye the way I hold the Tory Party, the English voter for the fucking
> > mess
> > this cunt Salmon is about to sink us into.
>
> > Honesty in a politician.
>
> > Thankyou for your interest.
>
> Thank you Bill.That told me! Unfortunately I'm still trying to pull my
head
> out of somewhere unpleasant. When I've succeeded, maybe if I have a few
> tonight it might plop out, I'll add something to your rant. Bloody good
one
> it was too. We ain't seen anger like that since....? well, 2005!

We all know that Gordon is a Moron though. The little fat f8cker even
looks stupid.

If Brown is so bad why is he still in power ? Does a vote of confidence work
these days ,if it does then his party has to agree with him dont blame other
partys for the situation . Regarding the "poor" many goverments creat them
and keep them that way so they can throw them a crumb or two and buy their
votes at election times

"Eyebee"  wrote in message 
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On Sep 5, 11:11 am, "Toooldtocare"  wrote:
> "Bill Carson"  wrote in message
>
> news:src2c4p61b91u0keufkq4van6cq9sf6t4i@4ax.com...
>
>
>

We all know that Gordon is a Moron though. The little fat f8cker even
looks stupid.

Talking of fat fuckers and looking stupid, remind me of your blog address 
please.