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date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 18:11:41 +0100,    group: uk.local.kent        back       
Tragedy!   
We all have days when we think life can't get much worse. We get made 
redundant, go bust, get divorced, lose a close relative, they are all part 
of the sad aspects of life.

The next time I (and maybe you after reading this) feel sorry for myself 
I'll thank my stars how lucky I am.

Some of you will know when Beanykermit posted regularly. She was a bit 
crazy but I liked her unique and different perspective on life. She had a 
crap childhood, well lots do, and when I got to know her, by email and 
messenger, she had a very low opinion of herself. She is an intelligent 
woman but a product of an environment that discouraged ambition.

She had one ambition though, to have a child. Sadly a few years ago she 
lost two boys at birth, one pregnancy followed another. That was tragedy 
enough for any couple. But it got worse, much worse. Two years later she 
was pregnant again. She was rushed to hospital, passed out, and when she 
woke up another baby boy had died. This was too much for her husband who 
lost his mind with grief and committed suicide. Beany woke up in hospital 
to find her baby dead and her husband dead.

Somehow or other she got through it. She was still desperate for a baby 
and two years later became pregnant yet again with a decent young man. Two 
weeks ago she felt ill and lost her fourth baby at birth, this time a 
little girl. How anyone can get through this is beyond me.

The reason for this post, I asked Beanie's permission, is I'm sure one or 
two of you, maybe more, would like to post a short word of sympathy. She 
is getting little support from anyone else. It's times like this when ulk 
brings out the good in people.
date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 18:11:41 +0100   author:   Toooldtocare

Re: Tragedy!   
"Toooldtocare"  wrote in message 
news:nJGdnRwAgNdQj9HVnZ2dnUVZ8srinZ2d@bt.com...
> We all have days when we think life can't get much worse. We get made 
> redundant, go bust, get divorced, lose a close relative, they are all part 
> of the sad aspects of life.
>
> The next time I (and maybe you after reading this) feel sorry for myself 
> I'll thank my stars how lucky I am.
>
> Some of you will know when Beanykermit posted regularly. She was a bit 
> crazy but I liked her unique and different perspective on life. She had a 
> crap childhood, well lots do, and when I got to know her, by email and 
> messenger, she had a very low opinion of herself. She is an intelligent 
> woman but a product of an environment that discouraged ambition.
>
> She had one ambition though, to have a child. Sadly a few years ago she 
> lost two boys at birth, one pregnancy followed another. That was tragedy 
> enough for any couple. But it got worse, much worse. Two years later she 
> was pregnant again. She was rushed to hospital, passed out, and when she 
> woke up another baby boy had died. This was too much for her husband who 
> lost his mind with grief and committed suicide. Beany woke up in hospital 
> to find her baby dead and her husband dead.
>
> Somehow or other she got through it. She was still desperate for a baby 
> and two years later became pregnant yet again with a decent young man. Two 
> weeks ago she felt ill and lost her fourth baby at birth, this time a 
> little girl. How anyone can get through this is beyond me.
>
> The reason for this post, I asked Beanie's permission, is I'm sure one or 
> two of you, maybe more, would like to post a short word of sympathy. She 
> is getting little support from anyone else. It's times like this when ulk 
> brings out the good in people.

Thankyou for posting this, as you know I'm also in contact with Beanie and 
today I realised just how alone she is after a recent email.  I'm beyond 
words to be honest.  I hope that she reads this and knows how much we 
are/can be there for her.

JB
x
date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 18:30:48 +0100   author:   JB

Re: Tragedy!   
"Toooldtocare"  wrote in message 
news:nJGdnRwAgNdQj9HVnZ2dnUVZ8srinZ2d@bt.com...
> We all have days when we think life can't get much worse. We get made 
> redundant, go bust, get divorced, lose a close relative, they are all part 
> of the sad aspects of life.
>
> The next time I (and maybe you after reading this) feel sorry for myself 
> I'll thank my stars how lucky I am.
>
> Some of you will know when Beanykermit posted regularly. She was a bit 
> crazy but I liked her unique and different perspective on life. She had a 
> crap childhood, well lots do, and when I got to know her, by email and 
> messenger, she had a very low opinion of herself. She is an intelligent 
> woman but a product of an environment that discouraged ambition.
>
> She had one ambition though, to have a child. Sadly a few years ago she 
> lost two boys at birth, one pregnancy followed another. That was tragedy 
> enough for any couple. But it got worse, much worse. Two years later she 
> was pregnant again. She was rushed to hospital, passed out, and when she 
> woke up another baby boy had died. This was too much for her husband who 
> lost his mind with grief and committed suicide. Beany woke up in hospital 
> to find her baby dead and her husband dead.
>
> Somehow or other she got through it. She was still desperate for a baby 
> and two years later became pregnant yet again with a decent young man. Two 
> weeks ago she felt ill and lost her fourth baby at birth, this time a 
> little girl. How anyone can get through this is beyond me.
>
> The reason for this post, I asked Beanie's permission, is I'm sure one or 
> two of you, maybe more, would like to post a short word of sympathy. She 
> is getting little support from anyone else. It's times like this when ulk 
> brings out the good in people.

Send her my best :o)
date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 19:45:53 +0100   author:   Manky Badger ng

Re: Tragedy!   
"Toooldtocare"  wrote

> Some of you will know when Beanykermit posted regularly. She was a bit 
> crazy but I liked her unique and different perspective on life.



I vaguely remember the name but I didn't get to know her. Sounds like life 
has handed out a bit of crap to her and I really hope she gets the child she 
so obviously wants. There are so many unwanted children in the world, so I 
always feel for someone desperate to have a child.

I'm sure when the baby finally arrives it will have the best Mum in Kent, so 
good luck.


-- 
Regards, Vince.

Long Distance Diary 30th May 2008-  Switzerland

http://trucknetuk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=32454
date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 19:46:26 +0100   author:   Knight Of The Road

Re: Tragedy!   
Take care chicken, we are here to support, I've just finished a double
section 28 but I guess it wasn't as bad as yours

take it easy


XL
date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:00:05 +0100   author:   Porridge Wog Porridge Wog @ Wherever Com

Re: Tragedy!   
"Toooldtocare"  wrote in message 
news:nJGdnRwAgNdQj9HVnZ2dnUVZ8srinZ2d@bt.com...
> We all have days when we think life can't get much worse. We get made 
> redundant, go bust, get divorced, lose a close relative, they are all 
> part of the sad aspects of life.
>
> The next time I (and maybe you after reading this) feel sorry for myself 
> I'll thank my stars how lucky I am.
>
> Some of you will know when Beanykermit posted regularly. She was a bit 
> crazy but I liked her unique and different perspective on life. She had 
> a crap childhood, well lots do, and when I got to know her, by email and 
> messenger, she had a very low opinion of herself. She is an intelligent 
> woman but a product of an environment that discouraged ambition.
>
> She had one ambition though, to have a child. Sadly a few years ago she 
> lost two boys at birth, one pregnancy followed another. That was tragedy 
> enough for any couple. But it got worse, much worse. Two years later she 
> was pregnant again. She was rushed to hospital, passed out, and when she 
> woke up another baby boy had died. This was too much for her husband who 
> lost his mind with grief and committed suicide. Beany woke up in 
> hospital to find her baby dead and her husband dead.
>
> Somehow or other she got through it. She was still desperate for a baby 
> and two years later became pregnant yet again with a decent young man. 
> Two weeks ago she felt ill and lost her fourth baby at birth, this time 
> a little girl. How anyone can get through this is beyond me.
>
> The reason for this post, I asked Beanie's permission, is I'm sure one 
> or two of you, maybe more, would like to post a short word of sympathy. 
> She is getting little support from anyone else. It's times like this 
> when ulk brings out the good in people.

I cannot think of a more deserved reason to be BakedBeany. I hope one day 
she will be up to posting again. In the meantime Beany's plight is 
something to contemplate and wonder, why her? Such pain, at I presume a 
reasonably young age, is just too much for anyone to suffer and come out 
unscathed.
date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:28:44 +0100   author:   Not Today

Re: Tragedy!   
On 8 Jun, 22:28, "Not Today"  wrote:
> "Toooldtocare"  wrote in message

>  I hope one day
> she will be up to posting again. In the meantime Beany's plight is
> something to contemplate and wonder, why her? Such pain, at I presume a
> reasonably young age, is just too much for anyone to suffer and come out
> unscathed.-

My thoughts go out to Beany and those around her. Wish I could say
more, but words (even the ones I spell correctly) are not my strong
point. I hope the future holds happier times and all that you seek.
--
Baldrick
date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:49:44 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Baldrick

Re: Tragedy!   
"Toooldtocare"  wrote in message 
news:nJGdnRwAgNdQj9HVnZ2dnUVZ8srinZ2d@bt.com...
> We all have days when we think life can't get much worse. We get made 
> redundant, go bust, get divorced, lose a close relative, they are all part 
> of the sad aspects of life.
>
> The next time I (and maybe you after reading this) feel sorry for myself 
> I'll thank my stars how lucky I am.
>
> Some of you will know when Beanykermit posted regularly. She was a bit 
> crazy but I liked her unique and different perspective on life. She had a 
> crap childhood, well lots do, and when I got to know her, by email and 
> messenger, she had a very low opinion of herself. She is an intelligent 
> woman but a product of an environment that discouraged ambition.
>
> She had one ambition though, to have a child. Sadly a few years ago she 
> lost two boys at birth, one pregnancy followed another. That was tragedy 
> enough for any couple. But it got worse, much worse. Two years later she 
> was pregnant again. She was rushed to hospital, passed out, and when she 
> woke up another baby boy had died. This was too much for her husband who 
> lost his mind with grief and committed suicide. Beany woke up in hospital 
> to find her baby dead and her husband dead.
>
> Somehow or other she got through it. She was still desperate for a baby 
> and two years later became pregnant yet again with a decent young man. Two 
> weeks ago she felt ill and lost her fourth baby at birth, this time a 
> little girl. How anyone can get through this is beyond me.
>
> The reason for this post, I asked Beanie's permission, is I'm sure one or 
> two of you, maybe more, would like to post a short word of sympathy. She 
> is getting little support from anyone else. It's times like this when ulk 
> brings out the good in people.
>

I extend my sympathy to you, Beany.  My daughter has recently had a 
miscarriage and so I've some small inkling of how you must be feeling.  No 
words of mine can provide you with any consolation for your loss, but you 
should know that there are people here who think well of you and wish you 
better times in the future.   Time will soothe the hurt, if you let it. If 
you need someone to talk to, my email address works.
-- 
Harry Keane
date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:36:51 +0100   author:   Harry Keane

Re: Tragedy!   
I am very sorry for your loss Beany, strange really, my maiden name was 
Beenham, and I was often referred to as 'Beany' as a child. I hold out my 
hand to hold yours in your pain.

I too, suffered in the quest to become a mother.  The suffering never really 
ends.  It just becomes different.
I now, thankfully, I have two strapping teenage lads, on the brink of their 
futures ........
One will become a Royal Marine Commando  (Green Beret) ....... the other, 
who knows, so many ambitions...

I just want to pass to Beany, that, after years of wishing and hoping, I 
sincerely hope that her dreams will come true and be realised....... I am so 
sorry for her losses.

I hope that someone will hold my hand when my much loved son departs to be 
deployed to such far away dangers that we all know are inevitable.

(thoughtfully)

Jla


"Toooldtocare"  wrote in message 
news:nJGdnRwAgNdQj9HVnZ2dnUVZ8srinZ2d@bt.com...
> We all have days when we think life can't get much worse. We get made 
> redundant, go bust, get divorced, lose a close relative, they are all part 
> of the sad aspects of life.
>
> The next time I (and maybe you after reading this) feel sorry for myself 
> I'll thank my stars how lucky I am.
>
> Some of you will know when Beanykermit posted regularly. She was a bit 
> crazy but I liked her unique and different perspective on life. She had a 
> crap childhood, well lots do, and when I got to know her, by email and 
> messenger, she had a very low opinion of herself. She is an intelligent 
> woman but a product of an environment that discouraged ambition.
>
> She had one ambition though, to have a child. Sadly a few years ago she 
> lost two boys at birth, one pregnancy followed another. That was tragedy 
> enough for any couple. But it got worse, much worse. Two years later she 
> was pregnant again. She was rushed to hospital, passed out, and when she 
> woke up another baby boy had died. This was too much for her husband who 
> lost his mind with grief and committed suicide. Beany woke up in hospital 
> to find her baby dead and her husband dead.
>
> Somehow or other she got through it. She was still desperate for a baby 
> and two years later became pregnant yet again with a decent young man. Two 
> weeks ago she felt ill and lost her fourth baby at birth, this time a 
> little girl. How anyone can get through this is beyond me.
>
> The reason for this post, I asked Beanie's permission, is I'm sure one or 
> two of you, maybe more, would like to post a short word of sympathy. She 
> is getting little support from anyone else. It's times like this when ulk 
> brings out the good in people.
>
>
date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:42:17 +0100   author:   jla jlajupiter@hotmaildotcom

Re: Tragedy!   
On behalf of Beany I thank everyone who posted messages of sympathy. Your 
words were kind and thoughtful and encouraging. Beany is not up to posting 
at the moment as she is having to arrange her daughters funeral and other 
formalities, but she has read them all and they have given her much 
comfort.

Thank you.
date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:50:44 +0100   author:   Toooldtocare

Re: Tragedy!   
Manky Badger avait écrit le 08/06/2008 :
tle girl. How anyone can get through this is beyond me.
>>
>> The reason for this post, I asked Beanie's permission, is I'm sure one or 
>> two of you, maybe more, would like to post a short word of sympathy. She is 
>> getting little support from anyone else. It's times like this when ulk 
>> brings out the good in people.
>
> Send her my best :o)

Send her my best too.
I do know what it is to lose a baby

Michèle
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:42:33 +0200   author:   Michèle

Re: Tragedy!   
"Toooldtocare"  wrote in message 
news:nJGdnRwAgNdQj9HVnZ2dnUVZ8srinZ2d@bt.com...
> We all have days when we think life can't get much worse. We get made 
> redundant, go bust, get divorced, lose a close relative, they are all part 
> of the sad aspects of life.
>
> The next time I (and maybe you after reading this) feel sorry for myself 
> I'll thank my stars how lucky I am.
>
> Some of you will know when Beanykermit posted regularly. She was a bit 
> crazy but I liked her unique and different perspective on life. She had a 
> crap childhood, well lots do, and when I got to know her, by email and 
> messenger, she had a very low opinion of herself. She is an intelligent 
> woman but a product of an environment that discouraged ambition.
>
I would like to add my thoughts to the other replies in here, I know what
it is like to lose a child at birth.
We lost our first child many years ago and it broke our hearts, it is 
something
you never get over, time softens the blow but it never goes away.

This was over forty years ago but to this day I sometimes shed a tear or 
two.

We was lucky to go on to have two more children, I can imagine what this
girl is going through.

Beanykermit seems to have many friends in here and I would like to be added
to that list, the best medicine for such a tragedy is to talk to friends and 
people
that care.
Don't give up on life girl, he/she who dares, wins.

My e-mail is valid, please feel free to use it.

You are in my thoughts and prayers.

Wally
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:10:10 +0100   author:   Wally

Re: Tragedy!   
"Toooldtocare"  wrote in message 
news:nJGdnRwAgNdQj9HVnZ2dnUVZ8srinZ2d@bt.com...
> We all have days when we think life can't get much worse. We get made 
> redundant, go bust, get divorced, lose a close relative, they are all part 
> of the sad aspects of life.
>
> The next time I (and maybe you after reading this) feel sorry for myself 
> I'll thank my stars how lucky I am.
>
> Some of you will know when Beanykermit posted regularly. She was a bit 
> crazy but I liked her unique and different perspective on life. She had a 
> crap childhood, well lots do, and when I got to know her, by email and 
> messenger, she had a very low opinion of herself. She is an intelligent 
> woman but a product of an environment that discouraged ambition.
>
> She had one ambition though, to have a child. Sadly a few years ago she 
> lost two boys at birth, one pregnancy followed another. That was tragedy 
> enough for any couple. But it got worse, much worse. Two years later she 
> was pregnant again. She was rushed to hospital, passed out, and when she 
> woke up another baby boy had died. This was too much for her husband who 
> lost his mind with grief and committed suicide. Beany woke up in hospital 
> to find her baby dead and her husband dead.
>
> Somehow or other she got through it. She was still desperate for a baby 
> and two years later became pregnant yet again with a decent young man. Two 
> weeks ago she felt ill and lost her fourth baby at birth, this time a 
> little girl. How anyone can get through this is beyond me.
>
> The reason for this post, I asked Beanie's permission, is I'm sure one or 
> two of you, maybe more, would like to post a short word of sympathy. She 
> is getting little support from anyone else. It's times like this when ulk 
> brings out the good in people.

Sorry Beanie.  Sometimes life sucks over and over again until you don't 
think it can suck any more then something happens and it gets worse than you 
think it ever could get, then everything seems dark and cold and empty and 
you plan how to end it ..... and then, one day, if you hang in long enough 
... the sun comes up and you wake up in a field with the sun shining on your 
face, birds singing, smell of cut grass.

Took 25 years for my sun to come out.  Hang in there. 


** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:15:59 +0100   author:   The Hatter

Re: Tragedy!   
"The Hatter"  wrote in message
news:7823c$4853ec44$23681@news.teranews.com...
> Sorry Beanie.  Sometimes life sucks over and over again until you don't
> think it can suck any more then something happens and it gets worse than
> you think it ever could get, then everything seems dark and cold and
> empty and you plan how to end it ..... and then, one day, if you hang in
> long enough ... the sun comes up and you wake up in a field with the sun
> shining on your face, birds singing, smell of cut grass.
>
> Took 25 years for my sun to come out.  Hang in there.

There's a lot of caring people out there so it seems. The thing that
surprised me with the answers is how many people have lost babies and
children. My mother lost two but that was over 50 years ago. Childbirth
and bringing up children to maturity is still a dangerous and hazardous
business.
date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:35:46 +0100   author:   Toooldtocare

Re: Tragedy!   
On 14 Jun, 17:15, "The Hatter" 
wrote:
> "Toooldtocare"  wrote in message
>
> news:nJGdnRwAgNdQj9HVnZ2dnUVZ8srinZ2d@bt.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > We all have days when we think life can't get much worse. We get made
> > redundant, go bust, get divorced, lose a close relative, they are all part
> > of the sad aspects of life.
>
> > The next time I (and maybe you after reading this) feel sorry for myself> > I'll thank my stars how lucky I am.
>
> > Some of you will know when Beanykermit posted regularly. She was a bit
> > crazy but I liked her unique and different perspective on life. She had a
> > crap childhood, well lots do, and when I got to know her, by email and
> > messenger, she had a very low opinion of herself. She is an intelligent
> > woman but a product of an environment that discouraged ambition.
>
> > She had one ambition though, to have a child. Sadly a few years ago she
> > lost two boys at birth, one pregnancy followed another. That was tragedy> > enough for any couple. But it got worse, much worse. Two years later she> > was pregnant again. She was rushed to hospital, passed out, and when she> > woke up another baby boy had died. This was too much for her husband who> > lost his mind with grief and committed suicide. Beany woke up in hospital
> > to find her baby dead and her husband dead.
>
> > Somehow or other she got through it. She was still desperate for a baby
> > and two years later became pregnant yet again with a decent young man. Two
> > weeks ago she felt ill and lost her fourth baby at birth, this time a
> > little girl. How anyone can get through this is beyond me.
>
> > The reason for this post, I asked Beanie's permission, is I'm sure one or
> > two of you, maybe more, would like to post a short word of sympathy. She> > is getting little support from anyone else. It's times like this when ulk
> > brings out the good in people.
>
> Sorry Beanie.  Sometimes life sucks over and over again until you don't
> think it can suck any more then something happens and it gets worse than you
> think it ever could get, then everything seems dark and cold and empty and> you plan how to end it ..... and then, one day, if you hang in long enough> ... the sun comes up and you wake up in a field with the sun shining on your
> face, birds singing, smell of cut grass.

And then some times it becomes a bit overcast again, but you just have
to remember the sun will be out again presently (1). :-)

Best wishes to you Beanykermit.

(1) Yes, even here in the UK... in fact that's part of the beauty of
living here - you appreciate the sun that bit more when it does come
out than if it were out all the time.

--
JackH
date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:28:23 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

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