http://www.theasiannews.co.uk/entertainment/arts/s/1020366_oldham_riots_inspire_film

A FILM devised by and starring the people caught at the centre of the
Oldham riots is to be premiered next month.


Heart of the Park was filmed in the Hathershaw and Fitton Hill areas of
the town and brings together young people from an array of backgrounds.


The film aims to show how regeneration is helping bring changes in
attitude, six years after some of Britain's worst rioting in recent
years.


In Heart of the Park, the carnival is cancelled, community trust is at
rock bottom and a park has become a playground for drug dealers, young
drinkers and dark happenings.


Into the fray enters Elle, a young girl who is determined to bring light
and hope to diverse cultures.


Elle is played by 16-year-old Stacy Adams, of Hathershaw.


She said: "Elle is quite a rebellious teenager and her step-father is
quite racist but then she meets this Asian lad.


"I live in Hathershaw and I think the film's true to life because I've
got some friends that have been in my position where they've been out
with Asian people. I get my ideas from them and their experiences.


"I think the film will be good for the community when people see it. And
I can't wait for the premiere."


Muhit Choudhury plays T-Bone, Elle's boyfriend.


Muhit said: "He's a gangster who sells weed and stuff, and makes someone
die. It wasn't that easy to play but I've
enjoyed it.


"The film has brought people together."


Filmed in Oldham's newly refurbished Alexander Park, it was commissioned
by New Deal for Communities a 10-year project to regenerate Hathershaw
and Fitton Hill and produced by community media company REELmcr.


REELmcr's Jacqui Carroll said: "We've worked with some very special
people who just want to get on with their lives.


"This area has suffered so much since the riots and from a lot of
unwanted media attention. In our film the communities come together to
be heard."


Graham Bowman, young people's development coordinator at New Deal, said:
"This wasn't just another film project {ndash} for many it was a
life-changing experience."


The premiere of Heart of the Park will be at 7.15pm on November 9, at
Smokies Hotel Park, Ashton Road, Oldham.

On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:00:45 +0100, Steve Greene
<stephen_greene.@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:

>http://www.theasiannews.co.uk/entertainment/arts/s/1020366_oldham_riots_inspire_film
>
>A FILM devised by and starring the people caught at the centre of the
>Oldham riots is to be premiered next month.
>
>
>Heart of the Park was filmed in the Hathershaw and Fitton Hill areas of
>the town and brings together young people from an array of backgrounds.
>
>
>The film aims to show how regeneration is helping bring changes in
>attitude, six years after some of Britain's worst rioting in recent
>years.
>
>
>In Heart of the Park, the carnival is cancelled, community trust is at
>rock bottom and a park has become a playground for drug dealers, young
>drinkers and dark happenings.
>
>
>Into the fray enters Elle, a young girl who is determined to bring light
>and hope to diverse cultures.
>
>
>Elle is played by 16-year-old Stacy Adams, of Hathershaw.
>
>
>She said: "Elle is quite a rebellious teenager and her step-father is
>quite racist but then she meets this Asian lad.
>
>
>"I live in Hathershaw and I think the film's true to life because I've
>got some friends that have been in my position where they've been out
>with Asian people. I get my ideas from them and their experiences.
>
>
>"I think the film will be good for the community when people see it. And
>I can't wait for the premiere."
>
>
>Muhit Choudhury plays T-Bone, Elle's boyfriend.
>
>
>Muhit said: "He's a gangster who sells weed and stuff, and makes someone
>die. It wasn't that easy to play but I've
>enjoyed it.
>
>
>"The film has brought people together."
>
>
>Filmed in Oldham's newly refurbished Alexander Park, it was commissioned
>by New Deal for Communities a 10-year project to regenerate Hathershaw
>and Fitton Hill and produced by community media company REELmcr.
>
>
>REELmcr's Jacqui Carroll said: "We've worked with some very special
>people who just want to get on with their lives.
>
>
>"This area has suffered so much since the riots and from a lot of
>unwanted media attention. In our film the communities come together to
>be heard."
>
>
>Graham Bowman, young people's development coordinator at New Deal, said:
>"This wasn't just another film project {ndash} for many it was a
>life-changing experience."
>
>
>The premiere of Heart of the Park will be at 7.15pm on November 9, at
>Smokies Hotel Park, Ashton Road, Oldham. 


In Oldham, as in Blackburn, Bradford, etc, it was recently reported
that Asian males were exclusively preying on young white girls and
grooming them for sex and prositution, or just straight out gang
raping them.

One has to wonder if a film which promotes the scenario of "Asian male
getting the white girl" is really the kind of subject matter to
improve community relations.

"bob"  wrote in message 
news:f5thh39hqj5govd9a6v45j81d76v00h3td@4ax.com...

> In Oldham, as in Blackburn, Bradford, etc, it was recently reported
> that Asian males were exclusively preying on young white girls and
> grooming them for sex and prositution, or just straight out gang
> raping them.

Cite please.

>
> One has to wonder if a film which promotes the scenario of "Asian male
> getting the white girl" is really the kind of subject matter to
> improve community relations.

50% of the members of the ethnic minorities born here marry outside their 
ethnic group.

Source:  'Life in the UK: A Handbook for Citizenship' HMSO 2007

-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

"William Black"  wrote in message 
news:ffat4q$9n1$2@registered.motzarella.org...
>
>
> Source:  'Life in the UK: A Handbook for Citizenship' HMSO 2007
>
> -- 
> William Black

You are incredibly desperate if you choose to use that book as a source for 
factual information, it is one of the most absurd collection of misleading 
opinions i have ever had the misfortune to read.

Gaz

"Gaz"  wrote in message 
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>
> "William Black"  wrote in message 
> news:ffat4q$9n1$2@registered.motzarella.org...
>>
>>
>> Source:  'Life in the UK: A Handbook for Citizenship' HMSO 2007
>>
>> -- 
>> William Black
>
> You are incredibly desperate if you choose to use that book as a source 
> for factual information, it is one of the most absurd collection of 
> misleading opinions i have ever had the misfortune to read.
>

Full of interesting stuff.

The problem is you almost haemorrhage from boredom when you try and read it.

It's a view of the UK you could only find in the mind of a senior official 
somewhere in the upper reaches of the Home Office.

But it has some interesting statistics in it that nobody has successfully 
challenged so far.

That what makes it useful.



-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:30:26 +0100, "William Black"
 wrote:

>
>"bob"  wrote in message 
>news:f5thh39hqj5govd9a6v45j81d76v00h3td@4ax.com...
>
>> In Oldham, as in Blackburn, Bradford, etc, it was recently reported
>> that Asian males were exclusively preying on young white girls and
>> grooming them for sex and prositution, or just straight out gang
>> raping them.
>
>Cite please.
>

Mothers of prevention
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2538090.ece

Police investigate child abuse in northern town
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/12/20/uoldham120.xml

Six years for rapist who invited friends to prey on lost 12-year-old
girl
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2381391.ece

Gaz wrote:
> "William Black"  wrote in message
> news:ffat4q$9n1$2@registered.motzarella.org...
>>
>>
>> Source:  'Life in the UK: A Handbook for Citizenship' HMSO 2007
>>
>> --
>> William Black
>
> You are incredibly desperate if you choose to use that book as a
> source for factual information, it is one of the most absurd
> collection of misleading opinions i have ever had the misfortune to
> read.

And that judgement isn't a mere opinion?. Sorry old son but despite the 
faults of officialdom, I think that HMSO has somewhat more value than an 
idea off the top of your head.

"John of Aix"  wrote in message 
news:47191b40$0$5086$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr...
> Gaz wrote:
>> "William Black"  wrote in message
>> news:ffat4q$9n1$2@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>
>>>
>>> Source:  'Life in the UK: A Handbook for Citizenship' HMSO 2007
>>>
>>> --
>>> William Black
>>
>> You are incredibly desperate if you choose to use that book as a
>> source for factual information, it is one of the most absurd
>> collection of misleading opinions i have ever had the misfortune to
>> read.
>
> And that judgement isn't a mere opinion?. Sorry old son but despite the 
> faults of officialdom, I think that HMSO has somewhat more value than an 
> idea off the top of your head.

HMSO are not responsible for accuracy. The book is littered with errors, and 
opinions.

Gaz

Gaz wrote:
> "John of Aix"  wrote in message
> news:47191b40$0$5086$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr...
>> Gaz wrote:
>>> "William Black"  wrote in message
>>> news:ffat4q$9n1$2@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Source:  'Life in the UK: A Handbook for Citizenship' HMSO 2007
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> William Black
>>>
>>> You are incredibly desperate if you choose to use that book as a
>>> source for factual information, it is one of the most absurd
>>> collection of misleading opinions i have ever had the misfortune to
>>> read.
>>
>> And that judgement isn't a mere opinion?. Sorry old son but despite
>> the faults of officialdom, I think that HMSO has somewhat more value
>> than an idea off the top of your head.
>
> HMSO are not responsible for accuracy. The book is littered with
> errors, and opinions.

Perhaps it is but I bet that it is far more researched and arguable than 
opinions off the tops of heads with no real access to the data.

John of Aix wrote:
> Gaz wrote:
>> "John of Aix"  wrote in message
>> news:47191b40$0$5086$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr...
>>> Gaz wrote:
>>>> "William Black"  wrote in message
>>>> news:ffat4q$9n1$2@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Source:  'Life in the UK: A Handbook for Citizenship' HMSO 2007
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> William Black
>>>>
>>>> You are incredibly desperate if you choose to use that book as a
>>>> source for factual information, it is one of the most absurd
>>>> collection of misleading opinions i have ever had the misfortune to
>>>> read.
>>>
>>> And that judgement isn't a mere opinion?. Sorry old son but despite
>>> the faults of officialdom, I think that HMSO has somewhat more value
>>> than an idea off the top of your head.
>>
>> HMSO are not responsible for accuracy. The book is littered with
>> errors, and opinions.
>
> Perhaps it is but I bet that it is far more researched and arguable
> than opinions off the tops of heads with no real access to the data.

A member of your family however, didn't have to memorise this shit though to 
pass some silly test.

Gaz

On 19 Oct 2007 15:45:06 -0500,  in uk.politics.misc, for Re: Oldham riots
inspire film, bob , wrote 

>On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:30:26 +0100, "William Black"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"bob"  wrote in message 
>>news:f5thh39hqj5govd9a6v45j81d76v00h3td@4ax.com...
>>
>>> In Oldham, as in Blackburn, Bradford, etc, it was recently reported
>>> that Asian males were exclusively preying on young white girls and
>>> grooming them for sex and prositution, or just straight out gang
>>> raping them.
>>
>>Cite please.
>>
>
>Mothers of prevention
>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2538090.ece
>
>Police investigate child abuse in northern town
>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/12/20/uoldham120.xml
>
>Six years for rapist who invited friends to prey on lost 12-year-old
>girl
>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2381391.ece

No doubt there are those here that remember this story much better than I, but a
decade or so ago, a sikh girl was raped by a muslim.  The elders found out who
the rapist was, brought him to the local square and publicly castrated him.  So
I heard, there were no muslims raping sikhs after that.......

No doubt that is just sooooooo over the top................ :-)

FACE

"bob"  wrote in message 
news:rl5ih3tbdh87ltt9a7vbbueqbellc07re5@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:30:26 +0100, "William Black"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>"bob"  wrote in message
>>news:f5thh39hqj5govd9a6v45j81d76v00h3td@4ax.com...
>>
>>> In Oldham, as in Blackburn, Bradford, etc, it was recently reported
>>> that Asian males were exclusively preying on young white girls and
>>> grooming them for sex and prositution, or just straight out gang
>>> raping them.
>>
>>Cite please.
>>
>
> Mothers of prevention
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2538090.ece

Quotation from ACC in charge:

 "Offenders can and do come from a variety of cultural backgrounds," says 
Cunningham, "and we deal with each case on its own individual merit." He 
says he is not aware of "any accusations of racism from the accused or their 
respective communities".

>
> Police investigate child abuse in northern town
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/12/20/uoldham120.xml

Twelve months old.

Any charges yet?

>
> Six years for rapist who invited friends to prey on lost 12-year-old
> girl
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2381391.ece

A rather nasty gang rape.

So far little or no evidence of organised gangs of white slavers.

The singular of data is not anecdote...

-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

"Gaz"  wrote in message 
news:5nslpuFjounmU1@mid.individual.net...
> John of Aix wrote:
>> Gaz wrote:
>>> "John of Aix"  wrote in message
>>> news:47191b40$0$5086$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr...
>>>> Gaz wrote:
>>>>> "William Black"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:ffat4q$9n1$2@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Source:  'Life in the UK: A Handbook for Citizenship' HMSO 2007
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> William Black
>>>>>
>>>>> You are incredibly desperate if you choose to use that book as a
>>>>> source for factual information, it is one of the most absurd
>>>>> collection of misleading opinions i have ever had the misfortune to
>>>>> read.
>>>>
>>>> And that judgement isn't a mere opinion?. Sorry old son but despite
>>>> the faults of officialdom, I think that HMSO has somewhat more value
>>>> than an idea off the top of your head.
>>>
>>> HMSO are not responsible for accuracy. The book is littered with
>>> errors, and opinions.
>>
>> Perhaps it is but I bet that it is far more researched and arguable
>> than opinions off the tops of heads with no real access to the data.
>
> A member of your family however, didn't have to memorise this shit though 
> to pass some silly test.
>

A distant friend's wife has just had to go through all this nonsense.

I gather the whole experience is ghastly beyond belief.


-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:39:17 +0100, "William Black"
 wrote:

>
>"bob"  wrote in message 
>news:rl5ih3tbdh87ltt9a7vbbueqbellc07re5@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:30:26 +0100, "William Black"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"bob"  wrote in message
>>>news:f5thh39hqj5govd9a6v45j81d76v00h3td@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>> In Oldham, as in Blackburn, Bradford, etc, it was recently reported
>>>> that Asian males were exclusively preying on young white girls and
>>>> grooming them for sex and prositution, or just straight out gang
>>>> raping them.
>>>
>>>Cite please.
>>>
>>
>> Mothers of prevention
>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2538090.ece
>
>Quotation from ACC in charge:
>
> "Offenders can and do come from a variety of cultural backgrounds," says 
>Cunningham, "and we deal with each case on its own individual merit." He 

He is referring to sexual grooming in general terms, not in relation
to similar gang activity.
 
>says he is not aware of "any accusations of racism from the accused or their 
>respective communities".
>
As well as simple opportunism, pimping of white females by black and
ethnic-minority men can be a type of revenge against whites. “My
parents ran a grocery shop,” says Hussein, who admits to being part of
the pimping gangs in the late 1990s. “They had hardly any money, even
though they worked their backsides off. White people treated them like
shit, like they were their servants.” Hussein says he took “great
pleasure” in having young white girls at his beck and call, knowing
their parents would be out of their minds with worry.

"bob"  wrote in message 
news:clsjh3p4sgm5oetvj32bikogbrv22ke861@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:39:17 +0100, "William Black"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>"bob"  wrote in message
>>news:rl5ih3tbdh87ltt9a7vbbueqbellc07re5@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:30:26 +0100, "William Black"
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"bob"  wrote in message
>>>>news:f5thh39hqj5govd9a6v45j81d76v00h3td@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>> In Oldham, as in Blackburn, Bradford, etc, it was recently reported
>>>>> that Asian males were exclusively preying on young white girls and
>>>>> grooming them for sex and prositution, or just straight out gang
>>>>> raping them.
>>>>
>>>>Cite please.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Mothers of prevention
>>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2538090.ece
>>
>>Quotation from ACC in charge:
>>
>> "Offenders can and do come from a variety of cultural backgrounds," says
>>Cunningham, "and we deal with each case on its own individual merit." He
>
> He is referring to sexual grooming in general terms, not in relation
> to similar gang activity.
>
>>says he is not aware of "any accusations of racism from the accused or 
>>their
>>respective communities".
>>
> As well as simple opportunism, pimping of white females by black and
> ethnic-minority men can be a type of revenge against whites. "My
> parents ran a grocery shop," says Hussein, who admits to being part of
> the pimping gangs in the late 1990s. "They had hardly any money, even
> though they worked their backsides off. White people treated them like
> shit, like they were their servants." Hussein says he took "great
> pleasure" in having young white girls at his beck and call, knowing
> their parents would be out of their minds with worry.

The singular of 'data' is not 'anecdote'.

The excuses of criminals are not usually of any interest to anyone.

This particular nasty piece of work is obviously trying to 'play the race 
card' in a desperate attempt to get his sentence reduced.

-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.