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date: Sat, 3 May 2008 14:46:42 +0100,    group: uk.local.hampshire        back       
Re: Freemasons' Hall, London - United Grand Lodge of England - Filmed Undercover   
"Dave"  wrote in message 
news:7df3666a-6344-4d52-a568-c8ccec49ac73@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> "Freemasons' Hall in London is the headquarters of the United Grand
> Lodge of England and a meeting place for the Masonic Lodges in the
> London area. It is in Great Queen Street between Holborn and Covent
> Garden and has been a Masonic meeting place since 1775."
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1541692698470701125

So what?  You joined a public tour of the building (available weekdays to 
the general public), and covertly made  a video of it.  Hardly the epitome 
of investigative journalism LOL !

> You only need to complete a quick google search to find out what the
> freemasons are all about and the controversy surrounding them. I
> secretly obtained this video via deception.
You didn't secretly "obtain" it - you secretly "made" it (or "recorded" it)

[...snipped...]
> The feeling of the lodge is an extremely earry place to be. References
> in the masonry are extremely sadistic
... "sadistic" .... now that's a new on on me .....

> and are in many a reference to
> "a supreme being", but no mentioned or depiction of Christ or any
> other heavenly being (namely the God) is present. Having said that
> however, there was nothing that resembled Satan.
As indeed there isn't.

> Security is very tight with every point covered by advanced video
> surveillance. Throughout I was in the company of a mason (not in the
> knowledge of what I was doing. Never the less there were others
> standing behind corners observing and trying not to be noticed but did
> not seem worried that I new they were there, sometimes revealing
> themselves only to return behind the scenes again.

We call these people security guards.    The "advanced video surveillance" 
is of course plain old CCTV".
Many public buildings have both guards and CCTV ..... libraries and museums 
for example (speaking of which did you get a chance to visit the Library and 
Museum of Freemasonry up on the 1st floor while you were there?

Apart from potential terrorist risks (such people do like to kill innocents 
in public places/buildings you know), the security at UGLE was revamped a 
few years back after three iirc west African gentlemen, who had joined a 
public tour, "disappeared" during the course of it - thus sparking a 
security alert.   They were all eventually found again - having each made 
their way to different parts of the building and into places where they had 
no legitimate business!


> There were others there notably two females whom I managed to get in
> shot. Also others whom I did not. It seems as if they were getting
> ready for some kind of a production.

Not unlikely that a potential film / tv show production team were casing the 
joint.   After all, both Judge Deed and Spooks claim the place - the Judge 
as his High Court and the Spooks as their HQ.

Ultimate Force know it simply as a battleground - they fought an extensive 
counter-terrorist action, freeing hostages from the boardroom (or was it the 
1st floor lounge?).   The action was particularly violent on the mezzanine 
landing, where the terrorists had erected a heavy calibre machine gun which 
the SAS had to neutralise.

What impressed me most about that, was the absolute perfection and speed of 
the repair job.  The main entrance hall had been riddled with 50-calibre 
bullets from that macine gun, smaller bullets from rifles and sub-machine 
guns, and the blast and shrapnel damage from grenades (both hand and rocket 
propelled variety).

Yet within the day, the building was back in use for lodge meetings - 
without the slightest indication that any of the battle damage had ever 
happened!!  Oh what mystical power these Masons have :-)

After all, the damage must have happened, because I saw it on TV - someone 
had videoed it live !!
But then again - someone else told me that Ultimate Force was just a work of 
fiction ..... so maybe Freemasons' Hall doesn't really exist at all, and 
maybe all my memories of meetings there are just my crazed delusions??
date: Sat, 3 May 2008 14:46:42 +0100   author:   Richard (none)

Re: Freemasons' Hall, London - United Grand Lodge of England - Filmed Undercover   
> On May 3, 6:46 am, "Richard" <(none)> wrote:
>> ... "sadistic" .... now that's a new on on me .....
>
> "earry" is a new one for me.

I guess that means that its all a lobe of old rubbish!
date: Sun, 11 May 2008 22:01:50 +0100   author:   80H

Re: Freemasons' Hall, London - United Grand Lodge of England - Filmed Undercover   
On Sun, 11 May 2008 22:01:50 +0100, "80H"
 typed furiously:

>> On May 3, 6:46 am, "Richard" <(none)> wrote:
>>> ... "sadistic" .... now that's a new on on me .....
>>
>> "earry" is a new one for me.
>
>I guess that means that its all a lobe of old rubbish!
>
>
I hear you.
-- 
Regards
David Simpson
(Unattached MM. Victoria, Australia)
Bad manners should not be a capital crime ... 
for a first offence. 
Paraphrasing Robert Heinlein,
date: Mon, 12 May 2008 07:58:23 +0930   author:   David Simpson

Re: Freemasons' Hall, London - United Grand Lodge of England - Filmed Undercover   
80H wrote:
>> On May 3, 6:46 am, "Richard" <(none)> wrote:
>>     
>>> ... "sadistic" .... now that's a new on on me .....
>>>       
>> "earry" is a new one for me.
>>     
>
> I guess that means that its all a lobe of old rubbish!
>
>
>
>   
... boom, boom ...

-- 

Rob Sandilands PM
Warwick Lodge No 160 UGLQ

'I don't suffer from insanity.  I enjoy every minute of it!'
date: Tue, 13 May 2008 08:12:01 GMT   author:   Rob Sandilands

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