3Km Protection zone centered between Flexford and Normandy in Surrey
includes - Flexford, Normandy, Ash, Wood Street, Puttenham
 
10Km Surveillance area includes - Guildford, Godalming, Farnham,
Aldershot, Farnborough, Frimley

DEFRA info. -
<URL:http://www.defra.gov.uk/footandmouth/about/index.htm>

Map of restriction zones -
<URL:http://www.gisdiseasemap.defra.gov.uk/intmaps/FMD/map.jsp?imageURL=http://148.253.1.20/output/fmd2007080321_dcsgisx1b_DCSGISX156727800778.png&bbox=486748.254849429,146448.894234184,498654.528661977,154386.410109216&action=ZoomOut&label=&xylabel=&mapsize=&zoomOrID=zoom&advancedSearch=>

Conspiracy theories for the loonies -

The testing laboratories at Pirbright used in the last outbreak are
nearby.

A property in the hamlet of Wanborough was used by MI5.

Daytona

Daytona  wrote in message
news:jo88b3l78078auq052kjb1psb6i9pbhgr7@4ax.com...
> 3Km Protection zone centered between Flexford and Normandy in Surrey
> includes - Flexford, Normandy, Ash, Wood Street, Puttenham
>
> 10Km Surveillance area includes - Guildford, Godalming, Farnham,
> Aldershot, Farnborough, Frimley
>
> DEFRA info. -
> <URL:http://www.defra.gov.uk/footandmouth/about/index.htm>
>
> Map of restriction zones -
>
<URL:http://www.gisdiseasemap.defra.gov.uk/intmaps/FMD/map.jsp?imageURL=http
://148.253.1.20/output/fmd2007080321_dcsgisx1b_DCSGISX156727800778.png&bbox=
486748.254849429,146448.894234184,498654.528661977,154386.410109216&action=Z
oomOut&label=&xylabel=&mapsize=&zoomOrID=zoom&advancedSearch=>
>
> Conspiracy theories for the loonies -
>
> The testing laboratories at Pirbright used in the last outbreak are
> nearby.
>
> A property in the hamlet of Wanborough was used by MI5.
>
> Daytona

I would go with Pirbright and a vector
and reservoir of
badger/s in badger friendly territory in
the 5 miles between Wanborough and
Pirbright

ps
What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
or nutteingd in a search engine.

On 2007-08-04 09:00:05 +0100, "Paul Nutteing (valid email address in 
post script )"  said:

> I would go with Pirbright and a vector
> and reservoir of
> badger/s in badger friendly territory in
> the 5 miles between Wanborough and
> Pirbright

Ah thanks, thats one theory we can ignore completely then.

-- 
Darren Griffin
PocketGPSWorld - www.PocketGPSWorld.com
The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums

In article , Daytona 
 writes
>3Km Protection zone centered between Flexford and Normandy in Surrey
>includes - Flexford, Normandy, Ash, Wood Street, Puttenham
>
>10Km Surveillance area includes - Guildford, Godalming, Farnham,
>Aldershot, Farnborough, Frimley
>
>DEFRA info. -
><URL:http://www.defra.gov.uk/footandmouth/about/index.htm>
>
>Map of restriction zones -
><URL:http://www.gisdiseasemap.defra.gov.uk/intmaps/FMD/map.jsp?imageURL=
>http://148.253.1.20/output/fmd2007080321_dcsgisx1b_DCSGISX156727800778.p
>ng&bbox=486748.254849429,146448.894234184,498654.528661977,154386.410109
>216&action=ZoomOut&label=&xylabel=&mapsize=&zoomOrID=zoom&advancedSearch=>
>
Because of this outbreak, Sheepdrove Organic Farm at Lambourn in West 
Berkshire has cancelled the Summer Food and Farming Festival due to be 
held there tomorrow.
-- 
Roy Bailey
West Berkshire.

On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 09:00:05 +0100, Paul Nutteing (valid email address in
post script ) wrote:

> I would go with Pirbright and a vector
> and reservoir of
> badger/s in badger friendly territory in
> the 5 miles between Wanborough and
> Pirbright

As this is coming from you we can safely consign
it to the dustbin.

> ps
> What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
> and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
> http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
> or nutteingd in a search engine.

No, it's not what they aren't telling but what
you aren't....or can't!

Have you visited this site?
What does all the stuff on it mean?
Can you explain what it means?

http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm

Is it just a pyramid of piffle?

Thanks.

Jimmy

Darren Griffin - PocketGPSWorld.Com  wrote in
message news:2007080409192527544-darren@pocketgpsworldcom...
> On 2007-08-04 09:00:05 +0100, "Paul Nutteing (valid email address in
> post script )"  said:
>
> > I would go with Pirbright and a vector
> > and reservoir of
> > badger/s in badger friendly territory in
> > the 5 miles between Wanborough and
> > Pirbright
>
> Ah thanks, thats one theory we can ignore completely then.
>
> --
> Darren Griffin
> PocketGPSWorld - www.PocketGPSWorld.com
> The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums
>

ITV news didn't ignore it , quoting the
association to be 3 miles apart, Pirbright
from Wanborough, along with an internal report
from Pirbright that allowed for the possibility.
Also ch4 news, Farmers Guardian etc

ps
What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
or nutteingd in a search engine.

"Daytona"  wrote in message 
news:jo88b3l78078auq052kjb1psb6i9pbhgr7@4ax.com...
> 3Km Protection zone centered between Flexford and Normandy in Surrey
> includes - Flexford, Normandy, Ash, Wood Street, Puttenham

And an indirect consequence was the closure of the A31 Hogs Bak (eastbound) 
today.

Apparently a car hit a deer, and a few following cars hit the carcass. 
Normally, this wouldn't be all that big a deal, just sweep the entrails to 
the side of the road. But since collisiopn with a cloven hooved animal 
happened within the 3km zone, it meant they had to shut the road in order to 
disinfect all the cars and occupants, then disinfect the road.

>
> 10Km Surveillance area includes - Guildford, Godalming, Farnham,
> Aldershot, Farnborough, Frimley
>
> DEFRA info. -
> <URL:http://www.defra.gov.uk/footandmouth/about/index.htm>
>
> Map of restriction zones -
> <URL:http://www.gisdiseasemap.defra.gov.uk/intmaps/FMD/map.jsp?imageURL=http://148.253.1.20/output/fmd2007080321_dcsgisx1b_DCSGISX156727800778.png&bbox=486748.254849429,146448.894234184,498654.528661977,154386.410109216&action=ZoomOut&label=&xylabel=&mapsize=&zoomOrID=zoom&advancedSearch=>
>
> Conspiracy theories for the loonies -
>
> The testing laboratories at Pirbright used in the last outbreak are
> nearby.

This may not be such a conspiracy theory after all. It seems the strain of 
F&M is not "normal", but one used in vaccines manufactured at a site 
adjacent to the testing labs in Pribright. There might be some egg on some 
faces yet, and a potentially crippling claim for damages.

>
> A property in the hamlet of Wanborough was used by MI5.

Paul Nutteing (valid email address in post script ) wrote:
> Darren Griffin - PocketGPSWorld.Com  wrote in
> message news:2007080409192527544-darren@pocketgpsworldcom...
>> On 2007-08-04 09:00:05 +0100, "Paul Nutteing (valid email address in
>> post script )"  said:
>>
>>> I would go with Pirbright and a vector
>>> and reservoir of
>>> badger/s in badger friendly territory in
>>> the 5 miles between Wanborough and
>>> Pirbright
>> Ah thanks, thats one theory we can ignore completely then.
>>
>> --
>> Darren Griffin
>> PocketGPSWorld - www.PocketGPSWorld.com
>> The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums
>>
> 
> ITV news didn't ignore it , quoting the
> association to be 3 miles apart, Pirbright
> from Wanborough, along with an internal report
> from Pirbright that allowed for the possibility.
> Also ch4 news, Farmers Guardian etc
> 
> ps
> What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
> and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
> http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
> or nutteingd in a search engine.
> 
An American pharmaceutical company appeared to be responsible for the 
foot and mouth outbreak in Britain.

Merial, which makes foot-and-mouth vaccines and has a laboratory three 
miles from the Surrey farm hit by the disease, dramatically agreed to 
stop production immediately.

The breakthrough came after Defra experts established that the strain of 
foot and mouth disease found in cattle at the infected farm at 
Wanborough is similar to the virus isolated in the 1967 outbreak in 
Britain.

-- 
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Jimmy wrote:
> Have you visited this site?
> What does all the stuff on it mean?
> Can you explain what it means?
> 
> http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
> 
> Is it just a pyramid of piffle?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Jimmy

IMHO It's not all piffle, although he doesn't put it over too well.

Andy

On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 22:37:43 +0100, Andy Champ wrote:

> Jimmy wrote:
>> Have you visited this site?
>> What does all the stuff on it mean?
>> Can you explain what it means?
>> 
>> http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
>> 
>> Is it just a pyramid of piffle?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Jimmy
> 
> IMHO It's not all piffle, although he doesn't put it over too well.
> 
> Andy

Can you explain what it means?
Thanks.

Jimmy wrote:
> 
> Can you explain what it means?
> Thanks.

Two answers:

(a) No.

or more helpfully:

(b) DNA "fingerprinting" isn't as reliable as they make out [which BTW 
I'm not surprised at, even though I haven't looked at DNA on gel for 
nigh on 30 years] and there is a darn great conspiracy to conceal this 
[on which subject I have no knowledge].

Andy

(b) DNA "fingerprinting" isn't as reliable as they make out [which BTW
> I'm not surprised at, even though I haven't looked at DNA on gel for
> nigh on 30 years] and there is a darn great conspiracy to conceal this
> [on which subject I have no knowledge].
>
Could this be one of the reasons that Jurys will find someone NOT guilty
despite dna and photographic evidence?

Some idiot tells them the science is not proven and the 12 idiots believe
him

On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 09:48:05 GMT, lerkio wrote:

>  (b) DNA "fingerprinting" isn't as reliable as they make out [which BTW
>> I'm not surprised at, even though I haven't looked at DNA on gel for
>> nigh on 30 years] and there is a darn great conspiracy to conceal this
>> [on which subject I have no knowledge].
>>
> Could this be one of the reasons that Jurys will find someone NOT guilty
> despite dna and photographic evidence?
> 
> Some idiot tells them the science is not proven and the 12 idiots believe
> him

I bet it would work on you!

..

lerkio wrote:
>  (b) DNA "fingerprinting" isn't as reliable as they make out [which BTW
>> I'm not surprised at, even though I haven't looked at DNA on gel for
>> nigh on 30 years] and there is a darn great conspiracy to conceal this
>> [on which subject I have no knowledge].
>>
> Could this be one of the reasons that Jurys will find someone NOT guilty
> despite dna and photographic evidence?
> 
> Some idiot tells them the science is not proven and the 12 idiots believe
> him
> 
> 
They'd like us to beleive that the probability of an error is so small 
that the person they have a match for cannot possibly be innocent.  IMHO 
It's strong evidence but not proof - especially when they go trawling 
through the database for a match that may or may not have anything to do 
with the case.  Even if you accept, as the experts claim, that there are 
no real duplicates in the population, that fag butt found at the crime 
scene might have come in on someone's foot;  and the lab might have 
messed up the sampling; and I'm sure a hundred other low-probability 
events.  Each of which take the probability of a false positive way over 
the quoted numbers - how about this one:

"The frequency of the DNA profile obtained from the stain on White House 
intern Monica Lewinsky's dress was reported to be 1 in 7.9 trillion" 
(University of Michigan).

I don't beleive the error rates in the testing are *that* low!

Andy

p.s. I found that quote at
http://www.fathom.com/course/21701758/session1.html
which is quite a good read. - AC.

Andy Champ  wrote in message
news:X6ydnW-lYPZDTyXbRVnyjQA@pipex.net...
> lerkio wrote:
> >  (b) DNA "fingerprinting" isn't as reliable as they make out [which BTW
> >> I'm not surprised at, even though I haven't looked at DNA on gel for
> >> nigh on 30 years] and there is a darn great conspiracy to conceal this
> >> [on which subject I have no knowledge].
> >>
> > Could this be one of the reasons that Jurys will find someone NOT guilty
> > despite dna and photographic evidence?
> >
> > Some idiot tells them the science is not proven and the 12 idiots
believe
> > him
> >
> >
> They'd like us to beleive that the probability of an error is so small
> that the person they have a match for cannot possibly be innocent.  IMHO
> It's strong evidence but not proof - especially when they go trawling
> through the database for a match that may or may not have anything to do
> with the case.  Even if you accept, as the experts claim, that there are
> no real duplicates in the population, that fag butt found at the crime
> scene might have come in on someone's foot;  and the lab might have
> messed up the sampling; and I'm sure a hundred other low-probability
> events.  Each of which take the probability of a false positive way over
> the quoted numbers - how about this one:
>
> "The frequency of the DNA profile obtained from the stain on White House
> intern Monica Lewinsky's dress was reported to be 1 in 7.9 trillion"
> (University of Michigan).
>
> I don't beleive the error rates in the testing are *that* low!
>
> Andy
>
> p.s. I found that quote at
> http://www.fathom.com/course/21701758/session1.html
> which is quite a good read. - AC.

The errror rate from peer-reviewed process
and publication
http://medweb.uni-muenster.de/institute/remed/gednap/Information/IJLM_GEDNAP
_II.pdf
table 1, is 7 percent for crime scene type
dna profiles used in the UK
and
cannot be better than 0.7 percent due to
single kit processing and False homozygosity
from peer reviewed article
FSI 143 (2004) 47-52
http://tinyurl.com/75dbu
explained in more detail on my expose someone
put in the thread title

Then attribution - don't worry about
the cops fitting you up , its that criminal down
the pub that you may annoyed who can easily raid
your wheelie bin , you should be wary of.
Should he think you are in the NDNAD or
likely to be included soon, for feloniously
retaining a library book over the allotted
botrrowing time or whatever is all thats
required these days
eg this week
http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2007/08/04/jury_acquits_man_despite_d
na_evidence
Jury acquits man despite DNA evidence
By Mary Schenk
Saturday, August 4, 2007 9:39 AM CDT

URBANA - A Champaign County jury Friday acquitted a former Champaign man of
breaking into a Champaign home more than a year ago.

William E. Tyler, 39, had been charged with residential burglary to a home
in the 500 block of South Willis Avenue on Feb. 13, 2006.

It wasn't until March 2007 that Tyler was charged with the crime. He was
linked to the break-in after the state crime lab determined that blood found
on a mitten left in the victims' home belonged to Tyler, whose DNA was in
the state's database due to prior convictions.

Tyler is currently serving a 10-year prison sentence for a 2006 burglary
conviction out of Champaign County. He also has other prior convictions for
burglary and theft.

A now-16-year-old girl said she was home alone studying that morning in her
room with the television on when she heard noises downstairs but thought it
was something the family cats were doing. When a hand reached around her
door, she screamed and the intruder fled. She called police from a cell
phone in her room.

Police and the residents found the front door window broken out, cash,
jewelry, and gift cards stolen, and the master bedroom ransacked. Left on
the bed in the master bedroom was a pair of mittens that didn't belong to
anyone living there. Police sent them to the state crime lab.

Assistant State's Attorney Duke Harris said that bit of circumstantial
evidence was enough to tie Tyler to the burglary while his attorney,
Assistant Public Defender Carrie Peltier said it did not mean Tyler was the
one responsible for the break-in.

The jury deliberated about 90 minutes.


ps
What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
or nutteingd in a search engine.

Valid email nutteing@fastmail.....fm (remove 4 of the 5 dots)
Ignore any other apparent em address used to post this message -
it is defunct due to spam.

Forgot to say the 0.7 percent error rate minimum is
for the reference samples , eg mouth swabs.
That is repeatable error , not random errors,
human errors etc. It is a systemic error with the
DNA profiling process.

People really are stupid and cynical aren't they?

That "lectric" will never catch on, I don't care what the experts say

Paul Nutteing (valid email address in post script ) wrote:
> 
> The errror rate from peer-reviewed process
> and publication
> http://medweb.uni-muenster.de/institute/remed/gednap/Information/IJLM_GEDNAP
> _II.pdf
> table 1, is 7 percent for crime scene type
> dna profiles used in the UK
> and
> cannot be better than 0.7 percent due to
> single kit processing and False homozygosity
> from peer reviewed article
> FSI 143 (2004) 47-52
> http://tinyurl.com/75dbu
> explained in more detail on my expose someone
> put in the thread title
> 


Paul,

that's a 3-year old journal, and I don't want to pay the 30 bucks.  Do 
you have anything more recent, or free, and printed in something like 
Nature or SciAm that I might be able to get hold of?

Andy

Andy Champ  wrote in message
news:osqdnVYHytxJvSfbnZ2dnUVZ8tPinZ2d@pipex.net...
> Paul Nutteing (valid email address in post script ) wrote:
> >
> > The errror rate from peer-reviewed process
> > and publication
> >
http://medweb.uni-muenster.de/institute/remed/gednap/Information/IJLM_GEDNAP
> > _II.pdf
> > table 1, is 7 percent for crime scene type
> > dna profiles used in the UK
> > and
> > cannot be better than 0.7 percent due to
> > single kit processing and False homozygosity
> > from peer reviewed article
> > FSI 143 (2004) 47-52
> > http://tinyurl.com/75dbu
> > explained in more detail on my expose someone
> > put in the thread title
> >
>
>
> Paul,
>
> that's a 3-year old journal, and I don't want to pay the 30 bucks.  Do
> you have anything more recent, or free, and printed in something like
> Nature or SciAm that I might be able to get hold of?
>
> Andy

Including the electronic-version-only journals are
available in print form via your
local library , Inter-Library loan and
the British Library Document Supply Centre , not explicitly stated on
http://www.bl.uk/services/document/dsc.html costing
about 2 pounds per article and 3  weeks turn-around. There is
the same mechanism in the USA (LoC) and Oz
 with about the same turn-around.

The salient data from that article
FSI 143 (2004) 47-52
False Homozygosities comparing 2 DNA profiling kits with divided samples
taken from
2055 individuals showing 15 errors comparing SGM plus results to Powerplex
16 results
on 5 loci , so error rate of 0.7 per cent or 1 in 140.

Person SGM Powerplex
vWA
1 15,15 15,17
2 17,17 17,18
3 15,15 15,18
4 16,16 16,18
5 18,18 18,21
D8S1179
6 12,12 12,16
7 14,14 10,14
8 13,13 13,18
FGA
9 22,25 25,25
10 23,23 21,23
D18S51
11 14,16 14,14
12 10,10 10,18
13 15,16 15,15
So false homozygosity slippage by as much as 8 alleles, 10 to 18.

And one error on D5S818 comparing Profiler and Powerplex
10,11 11,11
10,12 12,12

You can repeat these analyses with the single
kit and it will always show the same (wrong)
locus so wrong profile.

The UK,FSS uses only SGM plus.
I have homozygous loci in my own DNA profile
but that is by SGM+, with another kit one of
them may in fact be heterozygous. So much for
identity via DNA profile. I have 3 homozygous loci
so a 2 percent chance that my reference profile
with the FSS is wrong, just by FH.

ps
What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
or nutteingd in a search engine.

Valid email nutteing@fastmail.....fm (remove 4 of the 5 dots)
Ignore any other apparent em address used to post this message -
it is defunct due to spam.

I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went

In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
admirer  writes
>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
member of your immediate family.


-- 
Mike_B

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:41:48 GMT, Mike_B wrote:

> In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
> admirer  writes
>>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>>
>>
> 
> I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
> member of your immediate family.

You beat me to it....

-- 
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went

In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
admirer  writes
>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
member of your immediate family.


-- 
Mike_B

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:41:48 GMT, Mike_B wrote:

> In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
> admirer  writes
>>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>>
>>
> 
> I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
> member of your immediate family.

You beat me to it....

-- 
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

Steve Firth admirer  wrote in message
news:C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
> man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

It is much easier to falsely implicate with
DNA than it is to exonerate.
Just imagine a lowly paid police station toilet
cleaner sells on the pubic hairs from the urinal
trap, to the criminal underworld to leave at crime
scenes.

In a more personally targetted fashion all those wheelie
bins containing personal items that can so easily
be left at crime scenes. Prefereably criminals
deliberately choosing the houses of judges,
agistrates, warders , coppers
etc rather than plain Joe. Knowing that plod is so
gullible that they would believe an old cap ,
soiled tissue or dog-end etc is evidence of the
person connected to that DNA being at that place
where found. Not some "adventitious" false
match , can be retested with Powerflex, Identifiler
etc and will always show a genuine match.

Imagine the fun to be had with a recently discarded
condom, frozen for later use of the contents.
Forensic scientists
do not, in fact cannot, test for previous freezing
as they usually receive such organicaly
stained "exhibits" at the lab,
frozen.
etc etc

ps
What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
or nutteingd in a search engine.

I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went

In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
admirer  writes
>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
member of your immediate family.


-- 
Mike_B

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:41:48 GMT, Mike_B wrote:

> In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
> admirer  writes
>>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>>
>>
> 
> I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
> member of your immediate family.

You beat me to it....

-- 
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

Steve Firth admirer  wrote in message
news:C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
> man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

It is much easier to falsely implicate with
DNA than it is to exonerate.
Just imagine a lowly paid police station toilet
cleaner sells on the pubic hairs from the urinal
trap, to the criminal underworld to leave at crime
scenes.

In a more personally targetted fashion all those wheelie
bins containing personal items that can so easily
be left at crime scenes. Prefereably criminals
deliberately choosing the houses of judges,
agistrates, warders , coppers
etc rather than plain Joe. Knowing that plod is so
gullible that they would believe an old cap ,
soiled tissue or dog-end etc is evidence of the
person connected to that DNA being at that place
where found. Not some "adventitious" false
match , can be retested with Powerflex, Identifiler
etc and will always show a genuine match.

Imagine the fun to be had with a recently discarded
condom, frozen for later use of the contents.
Forensic scientists
do not, in fact cannot, test for previous freezing
as they usually receive such organicaly
stained "exhibits" at the lab,
frozen.
etc etc

ps
What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
or nutteingd in a search engine.

I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went

In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
admirer  writes
>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
member of your immediate family.


-- 
Mike_B

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:41:48 GMT, Mike_B wrote:

> In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
> admirer  writes
>>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>>
>>
> 
> I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
> member of your immediate family.

You beat me to it....

-- 
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

Steve Firth admirer  wrote in message
news:C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
> man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

It is much easier to falsely implicate with
DNA than it is to exonerate.
Just imagine a lowly paid police station toilet
cleaner sells on the pubic hairs from the urinal
trap, to the criminal underworld to leave at crime
scenes.

In a more personally targetted fashion all those wheelie
bins containing personal items that can so easily
be left at crime scenes. Prefereably criminals
deliberately choosing the houses of judges,
agistrates, warders , coppers
etc rather than plain Joe. Knowing that plod is so
gullible that they would believe an old cap ,
soiled tissue or dog-end etc is evidence of the
person connected to that DNA being at that place
where found. Not some "adventitious" false
match , can be retested with Powerflex, Identifiler
etc and will always show a genuine match.

Imagine the fun to be had with a recently discarded
condom, frozen for later use of the contents.
Forensic scientists
do not, in fact cannot, test for previous freezing
as they usually receive such organicaly
stained "exhibits" at the lab,
frozen.
etc etc

ps
What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
or nutteingd in a search engine.

I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went

In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
admirer  writes
>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
member of your immediate family.


-- 
Mike_B

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:41:48 GMT, Mike_B wrote:

> In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
> admirer  writes
>>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>>
>>
> 
> I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
> member of your immediate family.

You beat me to it....

-- 
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

Steve Firth admirer  wrote in message
news:C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
> man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

It is much easier to falsely implicate with
DNA than it is to exonerate.
Just imagine a lowly paid police station toilet
cleaner sells on the pubic hairs from the urinal
trap, to the criminal underworld to leave at crime
scenes.

In a more personally targetted fashion all those wheelie
bins containing personal items that can so easily
be left at crime scenes. Prefereably criminals
deliberately choosing the houses of judges,
agistrates, warders , coppers
etc rather than plain Joe. Knowing that plod is so
gullible that they would believe an old cap ,
soiled tissue or dog-end etc is evidence of the
person connected to that DNA being at that place
where found. Not some "adventitious" false
match , can be retested with Powerflex, Identifiler
etc and will always show a genuine match.

Imagine the fun to be had with a recently discarded
condom, frozen for later use of the contents.
Forensic scientists
do not, in fact cannot, test for previous freezing
as they usually receive such organicaly
stained "exhibits" at the lab,
frozen.
etc etc

ps
What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
or nutteingd in a search engine.

I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went

In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
admirer  writes
>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
member of your immediate family.


-- 
Mike_B

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:41:48 GMT, Mike_B wrote:

> In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
> admirer  writes
>>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>>
>>
> 
> I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
> member of your immediate family.

You beat me to it....

-- 
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

Steve Firth admirer  wrote in message
news:C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
> man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

It is much easier to falsely implicate with
DNA than it is to exonerate.
Just imagine a lowly paid police station toilet
cleaner sells on the pubic hairs from the urinal
trap, to the criminal underworld to leave at crime
scenes.

In a more personally targetted fashion all those wheelie
bins containing personal items that can so easily
be left at crime scenes. Prefereably criminals
deliberately choosing the houses of judges,
agistrates, warders , coppers
etc rather than plain Joe. Knowing that plod is so
gullible that they would believe an old cap ,
soiled tissue or dog-end etc is evidence of the
person connected to that DNA being at that place
where found. Not some "adventitious" false
match , can be retested with Powerflex, Identifiler
etc and will always show a genuine match.

Imagine the fun to be had with a recently discarded
condom, frozen for later use of the contents.
Forensic scientists
do not, in fact cannot, test for previous freezing
as they usually receive such organicaly
stained "exhibits" at the lab,
frozen.
etc etc

ps
What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
or nutteingd in a search engine.

I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went

In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
admirer  writes
>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
member of your immediate family.


-- 
Mike_B

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:41:48 GMT, Mike_B wrote:

> In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
> admirer  writes
>>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>>
>>
> 
> I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
> member of your immediate family.

You beat me to it....

-- 
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

Steve Firth admirer  wrote in message
news:C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
> man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

It is much easier to falsely implicate with
DNA than it is to exonerate.
Just imagine a lowly paid police station toilet
cleaner sells on the pubic hairs from the urinal
trap, to the criminal underworld to leave at crime
scenes.

In a more personally targetted fashion all those wheelie
bins containing personal items that can so easily
be left at crime scenes. Prefereably criminals
deliberately choosing the houses of judges,
agistrates, warders , coppers
etc rather than plain Joe. Knowing that plod is so
gullible that they would believe an old cap ,
soiled tissue or dog-end etc is evidence of the
person connected to that DNA being at that place
where found. Not some "adventitious" false
match , can be retested with Powerflex, Identifiler
etc and will always show a genuine match.

Imagine the fun to be had with a recently discarded
condom, frozen for later use of the contents.
Forensic scientists
do not, in fact cannot, test for previous freezing
as they usually receive such organicaly
stained "exhibits" at the lab,
frozen.
etc etc

ps
What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
or nutteingd in a search engine.

I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went

In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
admirer  writes
>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
member of your immediate family.


-- 
Mike_B

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:41:48 GMT, Mike_B wrote:

> In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
> admirer  writes
>>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>>
>>
> 
> I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
> member of your immediate family.

You beat me to it....

-- 
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

Steve Firth admirer  wrote in message
news:C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
> man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

It is much easier to falsely implicate with
DNA than it is to exonerate.
Just imagine a lowly paid police station toilet
cleaner sells on the pubic hairs from the urinal
trap, to the criminal underworld to leave at crime
scenes.

In a more personally targetted fashion all those wheelie
bins containing personal items that can so easily
be left at crime scenes. Prefereably criminals
deliberately choosing the houses of judges,
agistrates, warders , coppers
etc rather than plain Joe. Knowing that plod is so
gullible that they would believe an old cap ,
soiled tissue or dog-end etc is evidence of the
person connected to that DNA being at that place
where found. Not some "adventitious" false
match , can be retested with Powerflex, Identifiler
etc and will always show a genuine match.

Imagine the fun to be had with a recently discarded
condom, frozen for later use of the contents.
Forensic scientists
do not, in fact cannot, test for previous freezing
as they usually receive such organicaly
stained "exhibits" at the lab,
frozen.
etc etc

ps
What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
or nutteingd in a search engine.

I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went

In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
admirer  writes
>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
member of your immediate family.


-- 
Mike_B

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:41:48 GMT, Mike_B wrote:

> In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
> admirer  writes
>>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>>
>>
> 
> I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
> member of your immediate family.

You beat me to it....

-- 
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

Steve Firth admirer  wrote in message
news:C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
> man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

It is much easier to falsely implicate with
DNA than it is to exonerate.
Just imagine a lowly paid police station toilet
cleaner sells on the pubic hairs from the urinal
trap, to the criminal underworld to leave at crime
scenes.

In a more personally targetted fashion all those wheelie
bins containing personal items that can so easily
be left at crime scenes. Prefereably criminals
deliberately choosing the houses of judges,
agistrates, warders , coppers
etc rather than plain Joe. Knowing that plod is so
gullible that they would believe an old cap ,
soiled tissue or dog-end etc is evidence of the
person connected to that DNA being at that place
where found. Not some "adventitious" false
match , can be retested with Powerflex, Identifiler
etc and will always show a genuine match.

Imagine the fun to be had with a recently discarded
condom, frozen for later use of the contents.
Forensic scientists
do not, in fact cannot, test for previous freezing
as they usually receive such organicaly
stained "exhibits" at the lab,
frozen.
etc etc

ps
What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
or nutteingd in a search engine.

I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went

In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
admirer  writes
>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
member of your immediate family.


-- 
Mike_B

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:41:48 GMT, Mike_B wrote:

> In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
> admirer  writes
>>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>>
>>
> 
> I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
> member of your immediate family.

You beat me to it....

-- 
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

Steve Firth admirer  wrote in message
news:C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
> man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

It is much easier to falsely implicate with
DNA than it is to exonerate.
Just imagine a lowly paid police station toilet
cleaner sells on the pubic hairs from the urinal
trap, to the criminal underworld to leave at crime
scenes.

In a more personally targetted fashion all those wheelie
bins containing personal items that can so easily
be left at crime scenes. Prefereably criminals
deliberately choosing the houses of judges,
agistrates, warders , coppers
etc rather than plain Joe. Knowing that plod is so
gullible that they would believe an old cap ,
soiled tissue or dog-end etc is evidence of the
person connected to that DNA being at that place
where found. Not some "adventitious" false
match , can be retested with Powerflex, Identifiler
etc and will always show a genuine match.

Imagine the fun to be had with a recently discarded
condom, frozen for later use of the contents.
Forensic scientists
do not, in fact cannot, test for previous freezing
as they usually receive such organicaly
stained "exhibits" at the lab,
frozen.
etc etc

ps
What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
or nutteingd in a search engine.

I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went

In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
admirer  writes
>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
member of your immediate family.


-- 
Mike_B

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:41:48 GMT, Mike_B wrote:

> In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
> admirer  writes
>>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>>
>>
> 
> I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
> member of your immediate family.

You beat me to it....

-- 
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

Steve Firth admirer  wrote in message
news:C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
> man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

It is much easier to falsely implicate with
DNA than it is to exonerate.
Just imagine a lowly paid police station toilet
cleaner sells on the pubic hairs from the urinal
trap, to the criminal underworld to leave at crime
scenes.

In a more personally targetted fashion all those wheelie
bins containing personal items that can so easily
be left at crime scenes. Prefereably criminals
deliberately choosing the houses of judges,
agistrates, warders , coppers
etc rather than plain Joe. Knowing that plod is so
gullible that they would believe an old cap ,
soiled tissue or dog-end etc is evidence of the
person connected to that DNA being at that place
where found. Not some "adventitious" false
match , can be retested with Powerflex, Identifiler
etc and will always show a genuine match.

Imagine the fun to be had with a recently discarded
condom, frozen for later use of the contents.
Forensic scientists
do not, in fact cannot, test for previous freezing
as they usually receive such organicaly
stained "exhibits" at the lab,
frozen.
etc etc

ps
What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
or nutteingd in a search engine.

I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went

In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
admirer  writes
>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
member of your immediate family.


-- 
Mike_B

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:41:48 GMT, Mike_B wrote:

> In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
> admirer  writes
>>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>>
>>
> 
> I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
> member of your immediate family.

You beat me to it....

-- 
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

Steve Firth admirer  wrote in message
news:C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
> man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

It is much easier to falsely implicate with
DNA than it is to exonerate.
Just imagine a lowly paid police station toilet
cleaner sells on the pubic hairs from the urinal
trap, to the criminal underworld to leave at crime
scenes.

In a more personally targetted fashion all those wheelie
bins containing personal items that can so easily
be left at crime scenes. Prefereably criminals
deliberately choosing the houses of judges,
agistrates, warders , coppers
etc rather than plain Joe. Knowing that plod is so
gullible that they would believe an old cap ,
soiled tissue or dog-end etc is evidence of the
person connected to that DNA being at that place
where found. Not some "adventitious" false
match , can be retested with Powerflex, Identifiler
etc and will always show a genuine match.

Imagine the fun to be had with a recently discarded
condom, frozen for later use of the contents.
Forensic scientists
do not, in fact cannot, test for previous freezing
as they usually receive such organicaly
stained "exhibits" at the lab,
frozen.
etc etc

ps
What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
or nutteingd in a search engine.

I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went

In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
admirer  writes
>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
member of your immediate family.


-- 
Mike_B

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:41:48 GMT, Mike_B wrote:

> In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
> admirer  writes
>>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>>
>>
> 
> I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
> member of your immediate family.

You beat me to it....

-- 
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

Steve Firth admirer  wrote in message
news:C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
> man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

It is much easier to falsely implicate with
DNA than it is to exonerate.
Just imagine a lowly paid police station toilet
cleaner sells on the pubic hairs from the urinal
trap, to the criminal underworld to leave at crime
scenes.

In a more personally targetted fashion all those wheelie
bins containing personal items that can so easily
be left at crime scenes. Prefereably criminals
deliberately choosing the houses of judges,
agistrates, warders , coppers
etc rather than plain Joe. Knowing that plod is so
gullible that they would believe an old cap ,
soiled tissue or dog-end etc is evidence of the
person connected to that DNA being at that place
where found. Not some "adventitious" false
match , can be retested with Powerflex, Identifiler
etc and will always show a genuine match.

Imagine the fun to be had with a recently discarded
condom, frozen for later use of the contents.
Forensic scientists
do not, in fact cannot, test for previous freezing
as they usually receive such organicaly
stained "exhibits" at the lab,
frozen.
etc etc

ps
What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
or nutteingd in a search engine.

I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went

In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
admirer  writes
>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
member of your immediate family.


-- 
Mike_B

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:41:48 GMT, Mike_B wrote:

> In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
> admirer  writes
>>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>>
>>
> 
> I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
> member of your immediate family.

You beat me to it....

-- 
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

Steve Firth admirer  wrote in message
news:C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
> man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

It is much easier to falsely implicate with
DNA than it is to exonerate.
Just imagine a lowly paid police station toilet
cleaner sells on the pubic hairs from the urinal
trap, to the criminal underworld to leave at crime
scenes.

In a more personally targetted fashion all those wheelie
bins containing personal items that can so easily
be left at crime scenes. Prefereably criminals
deliberately choosing the houses of judges,
agistrates, warders , coppers
etc rather than plain Joe. Knowing that plod is so
gullible that they would believe an old cap ,
soiled tissue or dog-end etc is evidence of the
person connected to that DNA being at that place
where found. Not some "adventitious" false
match , can be retested with Powerflex, Identifiler
etc and will always show a genuine match.

Imagine the fun to be had with a recently discarded
condom, frozen for later use of the contents.
Forensic scientists
do not, in fact cannot, test for previous freezing
as they usually receive such organicaly
stained "exhibits" at the lab,
frozen.
etc etc

ps
What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
or nutteingd in a search engine.

I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went

In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
admirer  writes
>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
member of your immediate family.


-- 
Mike_B

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:41:48 GMT, Mike_B wrote:

> In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
> admirer  writes
>>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>>
>>
> 
> I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
> member of your immediate family.

You beat me to it....

-- 
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

Steve Firth admirer  wrote in message
news:C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
> man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

It is much easier to falsely implicate with
DNA than it is to exonerate.
Just imagine a lowly paid police station toilet
cleaner sells on the pubic hairs from the urinal
trap, to the criminal underworld to leave at crime
scenes.

In a more personally targetted fashion all those wheelie
bins containing personal items that can so easily
be left at crime scenes. Prefereably criminals
deliberately choosing the houses of judges,
agistrates, warders , coppers
etc rather than plain Joe. Knowing that plod is so
gullible that they would believe an old cap ,
soiled tissue or dog-end etc is evidence of the
person connected to that DNA being at that place
where found. Not some "adventitious" false
match , can be retested with Powerflex, Identifiler
etc and will always show a genuine match.

Imagine the fun to be had with a recently discarded
condom, frozen for later use of the contents.
Forensic scientists
do not, in fact cannot, test for previous freezing
as they usually receive such organicaly
stained "exhibits" at the lab,
frozen.
etc etc

ps
What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
or nutteingd in a search engine.

I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went

In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
admirer  writes
>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
member of your immediate family.


-- 
Mike_B

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:41:48 GMT, Mike_B wrote:

> In message <C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, Steve Firth 
> admirer  writes
>>I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
>>man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>>
>>
> 
> I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same if that innocent man was you or a 
> member of your immediate family.

You beat me to it....

-- 
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

Steve Firth admirer  wrote in message
news:C_Ywi.15260$mo.6851@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> I don't know if its an "age thing" but these days I'd rather one innocent
> man go to Jail so long as the 9 guilty thugs also went
>
>

It is much easier to falsely implicate with
DNA than it is to exonerate.
Just imagine a lowly paid police station toilet
cleaner sells on the pubic hairs from the urinal
trap, to the criminal underworld to leave at crime
scenes.

In a more personally targetted fashion all those wheelie
bins containing personal items that can so easily
be left at crime scenes. Prefereably criminals
deliberately choosing the houses of judges,
agistrates, warders , coppers
etc rather than plain Joe. Knowing that plod is so
gullible that they would believe an old cap ,
soiled tissue or dog-end etc is evidence of the
person connected to that DNA being at that place
where found. Not some "adventitious" false
match , can be retested with Powerflex, Identifiler
etc and will always show a genuine match.

Imagine the fun to be had with a recently discarded
condom, frozen for later use of the contents.
Forensic scientists
do not, in fact cannot, test for previous freezing
as they usually receive such organicaly
stained "exhibits" at the lab,
frozen.
etc etc

ps
What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
or nutteingd in a search engine.

"Roy Bailey"  wrote in message 
news:bP6oe2CfFEtGFwo1@roy.bailey.waitrose.com...

> Because of this outbreak, Sheepdrove Organic Farm at Lambourn in West 
> Berkshire has cancelled the Summer Food and Farming Festival due to be 
> held there tomorrow.

Oh bugger, what ever am I going to do with my day now?
-- 
Dave (Sgt. Pepper)       Epsom, England
     My photo galleries at  http://www.pbase.com/davecq
    "I will not tolerate intolerance ... Doh!!"