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date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:37:24 +0100,    group: uk.local.derbyshire        back       
crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
A crop carving/circle has appeared in a field just up the road from
me. I saw it and took some pictures 26/6/07. The field is to the left
of Castle Hayes Lane, Google Earth ref: 52-50'52/83 N 1-41'57.89 W, or type 
Tutbury into GE and find your way from there. If you do go there please be
as respectful as you can of the farmers land and remaining undamaged crop.
I would have to be the first to say it's probably a hoax - it looks
like one but then I could only see it from the ground. Only a pilot in
a plane could see what it is really like. Are there any pilots that
could take a pic for the rest of us?
Here are some pics I took.
http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/crop
date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:37:24 +0100   author:   net

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:37:24 +0100, "net" 
wrote:

>A crop carving/circle has appeared in a field just up the road from
>me. I saw it and took some pictures 26/6/07. The field is to the left
>of Castle Hayes Lane, Google Earth ref: 52-50'52/83 N 1-41'57.89 W, or type 
>Tutbury into GE and find your way from there. If you do go there please be
>as respectful as you can of the farmers land and remaining undamaged crop.
>I would have to be the first to say it's probably a hoax - it looks
>like one but then I could only see it from the ground. Only a pilot in
>a plane could see what it is really like. Are there any pilots that
>could take a pic for the rest of us?
>Here are some pics I took.
>http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/crop
>
>
>
>
You have x-posted to a special newsgroup set up by
the the NuLabour Government to plug the gaps created by 
the abysmal failure of the Psychiatric Care in the Community Policy. 
which was implemented by the last Tory Government. This
policy was  not only continued but also expanded by this 
NuLabour Government. 
 
The uk.local hierarchy was devised to provide an outlet for
individuals who would otherwise be spending their days sitting
at home wearing an aluminium foil hat waiting for a full moon
to rise. It was hoped that this would reduce the incidence
of nutters out there howling at the moon and frightening the
shit out of their neighbours. Another of HMGs aims and 
objectives was to provide a distraction to take their minds
of the problem of who they were next going to knife to death.
Unfortunately, this group has been taken over by the 
articulate lower middle classes who have succeeding in 
driving HMGs target audience away. Independent research has
shown that it was the amount and quality of the inane drivel,
called small talk which the middle classes are adept at, which
had the effect of doing their heads in. They left to protect what 
was left of their sanity. This has happened to the whole of uk.local.
hierarchy.  This newsgroup in particular is a very good example 
of another HMG failure. It does however, provide a forum in which
one can talk about jobbies for ever and a day. (Contributed by Krustov)

I trust this post will help guide you in your future dealings with this
newsgroup.

Thank you.
date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:52:00 +0100   author:   Bob

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"net"  wrote in message
news:46816be4$0$5860$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
> A crop carving/circle has appeared in a field just up the road from
> me. I saw it and took some pictures 26/6/07.

> http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/crop


It's normal wind damage, sorry.

Tim

      Check out www.nervouscyclist.org
 'I find sometimes it’s easy to be myself, but sometimes I find it’s
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date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:28:50 GMT   author:   Tim Dunne

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message 
news:6Gegi.12344$p8.3959@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> "net"  wrote in message
> news:46816be4$0$5860$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>> A crop carving/circle has appeared in a field just up the road from
>> me. I saw it and took some pictures 26/6/07.
>
>> http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/crop
>
>
> It's normal wind damage, sorry.
>
> Tim

get out of it
date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:52:18 +0100   author:   net

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"net"  wrote in message
news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk

> get out of it

??

Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or 
odd patches.

Tim
-- 
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 'I find sometimes it’s easy to be myself, but sometimes I find it’s
    better to be somebody else.' - Dave Matthews 'So Much To Say'
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date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:59:59 GMT   author:   Tim Dunne

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message 
news:PTggi.12424$p8.7432@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> "net"  wrote in message
> news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>
>> get out of it
>
> ??
>
> Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or
> odd patches.

not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see google 
earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all untouched. Wind 
as you speak of would not have confined itself to the boundaries of one 
field. An aerial shot is what's really needed here...
date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:23:22 +0100   author:   net

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"net"  wrote in message

> not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see
> google earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all
> untouched. Wind as you speak of would not have confined itself to the
> boundaries of one field.

That's exactly how wind often behaves in crops. It's often an effect of the 
profile of the landscape.

> An aerial shot is what's really needed
> here...

Shrugs...

Tim
-- 
Sent from Birmingham, UK...          Check out www.nervouscyclist.org
 'I find sometimes it’s easy to be myself, but sometimes I find it’s
    better to be somebody else.' - Dave Matthews 'So Much To Say'
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date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:33:49 GMT   author:   Tim Dunne

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:23:22 +0100, "net" 
wrote:

>
>"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message 
>news:PTggi.12424$p8.7432@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> "net"  wrote in message
>> news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>>
>>> get out of it
>>
>> ??
>>
>> Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or
>> odd patches.
>
>not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see google 
>earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all untouched. Wind 
>as you speak of would not have confined itself to the boundaries of one 
>field. An aerial shot is what's really needed here... 
>

Strong localised downward gust of wind. Probably swirling.
Quite common before the existence of the short 
stalk type of crop. Interesting for all that.

Al
date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:05:02 +0100   author:   Al

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
In message <4681a00e$0$31685$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, net 
 writes
>
>"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message
>news:PTggi.12424$p8.7432@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> "net"  wrote in message
>> news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>>
>>> get out of it
>>
>> ??
>>
>> Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or
>> odd patches.
>
>not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see google
>earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all untouched. Wind
>as you speak of would not have confined itself to the boundaries of one
>field. An aerial shot is what's really needed here...
>
>

most likely wind damage. the 'proper' crop 'circles', as we know them in 
England, are made by humans...e.g. Wiltshire-based Team Satan.

Paul Vigay, however, is free to differ : )

-- 

Dr P
date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:25:39 +0100   author:   Dr P abworks

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:37:24 +0100, "net" 
wrote:

>A crop carving/circle has appeared in a field just up the road from
>me. I saw it and took some pictures 26/6/07. The field is to the left
>of Castle Hayes Lane, Google Earth ref: 52-50'52/83 N 1-41'57.89 W, or type 
>Tutbury into GE and find your way from there. If you do go there please be
>as respectful as you can of the farmers land and remaining undamaged crop.
>I would have to be the first to say it's probably a hoax - it looks
>like one but then I could only see it from the ground. Only a pilot in
>a plane could see what it is really like. Are there any pilots that
>could take a pic for the rest of us?
>Here are some pics I took.
>http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/crop
>
>
>
>
You have x-posted to a special newsgroup set up by
the the NuLabour Government to plug the gaps created by 
the abysmal failure of the Psychiatric Care in the Community Policy. 
which was implemented by the last Tory Government. This
policy was  not only continued but also expanded by this 
NuLabour Government. 
 
The uk.local hierarchy was devised to provide an outlet for
individuals who would otherwise be spending their days sitting
at home wearing an aluminium foil hat waiting for a full moon
to rise. It was hoped that this would reduce the incidence
of nutters out there howling at the moon and frightening the
shit out of their neighbours. Another of HMGs aims and 
objectives was to provide a distraction to take their minds
of the problem of who they were next going to knife to death.
Unfortunately, this group has been taken over by the 
articulate lower middle classes who have succeeding in 
driving HMGs target audience away. Independent research has
shown that it was the amount and quality of the inane drivel,
called small talk which the middle classes are adept at, which
had the effect of doing their heads in. They left to protect what 
was left of their sanity. This has happened to the whole of uk.local.
hierarchy.  This newsgroup in particular is a very good example 
of another HMG failure. It does however, provide a forum in which
one can talk about jobbies for ever and a day. (Contributed by Krustov)

I trust this post will help guide you in your future dealings with this
newsgroup.

Thank you.
date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:52:00 +0100   author:   Bob

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"net"  wrote in message
news:46816be4$0$5860$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
> A crop carving/circle has appeared in a field just up the road from
> me. I saw it and took some pictures 26/6/07.

> http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/crop


It's normal wind damage, sorry.

Tim

      Check out www.nervouscyclist.org
 'I find sometimes it’s easy to be myself, but sometimes I find it’s
    better to be somebody else.' - Dave Matthews 'So Much To Say'
My 'reply to' address is valid, mail to the posting address is dumped
date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:28:50 GMT   author:   Tim Dunne

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message 
news:6Gegi.12344$p8.3959@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> "net"  wrote in message
> news:46816be4$0$5860$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>> A crop carving/circle has appeared in a field just up the road from
>> me. I saw it and took some pictures 26/6/07.
>
>> http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/crop
>
>
> It's normal wind damage, sorry.
>
> Tim

get out of it
date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:52:18 +0100   author:   net

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"net"  wrote in message
news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk

> get out of it

??

Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or 
odd patches.

Tim
-- 
Sent from Birmingham, UK...          Check out www.nervouscyclist.org
 'I find sometimes it’s easy to be myself, but sometimes I find it’s
    better to be somebody else.' - Dave Matthews 'So Much To Say'
My 'reply to' address is valid, mail to the posting address is dumped
date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:59:59 GMT   author:   Tim Dunne

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message 
news:PTggi.12424$p8.7432@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> "net"  wrote in message
> news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>
>> get out of it
>
> ??
>
> Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or
> odd patches.

not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see google 
earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all untouched. Wind 
as you speak of would not have confined itself to the boundaries of one 
field. An aerial shot is what's really needed here...
date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:23:22 +0100   author:   net

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"net"  wrote in message

> not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see
> google earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all
> untouched. Wind as you speak of would not have confined itself to the
> boundaries of one field.

That's exactly how wind often behaves in crops. It's often an effect of the 
profile of the landscape.

> An aerial shot is what's really needed
> here...

Shrugs...

Tim
-- 
Sent from Birmingham, UK...          Check out www.nervouscyclist.org
 'I find sometimes it’s easy to be myself, but sometimes I find it’s
    better to be somebody else.' - Dave Matthews 'So Much To Say'
My 'reply to' address is valid, mail to the posting address is dumped
date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:33:49 GMT   author:   Tim Dunne

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:23:22 +0100, "net" 
wrote:

>
>"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message 
>news:PTggi.12424$p8.7432@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> "net"  wrote in message
>> news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>>
>>> get out of it
>>
>> ??
>>
>> Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or
>> odd patches.
>
>not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see google 
>earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all untouched. Wind 
>as you speak of would not have confined itself to the boundaries of one 
>field. An aerial shot is what's really needed here... 
>

Strong localised downward gust of wind. Probably swirling.
Quite common before the existence of the short 
stalk type of crop. Interesting for all that.

Al
date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:05:02 +0100   author:   Al

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
In message <4681a00e$0$31685$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, net 
 writes
>
>"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message
>news:PTggi.12424$p8.7432@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> "net"  wrote in message
>> news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>>
>>> get out of it
>>
>> ??
>>
>> Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or
>> odd patches.
>
>not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see google
>earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all untouched. Wind
>as you speak of would not have confined itself to the boundaries of one
>field. An aerial shot is what's really needed here...
>
>

most likely wind damage. the 'proper' crop 'circles', as we know them in 
England, are made by humans...e.g. Wiltshire-based Team Satan.

Paul Vigay, however, is free to differ : )

-- 

Dr P
date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:25:39 +0100   author:   Dr P abworks

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:37:24 +0100, "net" 
wrote:

>A crop carving/circle has appeared in a field just up the road from
>me. I saw it and took some pictures 26/6/07. The field is to the left
>of Castle Hayes Lane, Google Earth ref: 52-50'52/83 N 1-41'57.89 W, or type 
>Tutbury into GE and find your way from there. If you do go there please be
>as respectful as you can of the farmers land and remaining undamaged crop.
>I would have to be the first to say it's probably a hoax - it looks
>like one but then I could only see it from the ground. Only a pilot in
>a plane could see what it is really like. Are there any pilots that
>could take a pic for the rest of us?
>Here are some pics I took.
>http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/crop
>
>
>
>
You have x-posted to a special newsgroup set up by
the the NuLabour Government to plug the gaps created by 
the abysmal failure of the Psychiatric Care in the Community Policy. 
which was implemented by the last Tory Government. This
policy was  not only continued but also expanded by this 
NuLabour Government. 
 
The uk.local hierarchy was devised to provide an outlet for
individuals who would otherwise be spending their days sitting
at home wearing an aluminium foil hat waiting for a full moon
to rise. It was hoped that this would reduce the incidence
of nutters out there howling at the moon and frightening the
shit out of their neighbours. Another of HMGs aims and 
objectives was to provide a distraction to take their minds
of the problem of who they were next going to knife to death.
Unfortunately, this group has been taken over by the 
articulate lower middle classes who have succeeding in 
driving HMGs target audience away. Independent research has
shown that it was the amount and quality of the inane drivel,
called small talk which the middle classes are adept at, which
had the effect of doing their heads in. They left to protect what 
was left of their sanity. This has happened to the whole of uk.local.
hierarchy.  This newsgroup in particular is a very good example 
of another HMG failure. It does however, provide a forum in which
one can talk about jobbies for ever and a day. (Contributed by Krustov)

I trust this post will help guide you in your future dealings with this
newsgroup.

Thank you.
date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:52:00 +0100   author:   Bob

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"net"  wrote in message
news:46816be4$0$5860$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
> A crop carving/circle has appeared in a field just up the road from
> me. I saw it and took some pictures 26/6/07.

> http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/crop


It's normal wind damage, sorry.

Tim

      Check out www.nervouscyclist.org
 'I find sometimes it’s easy to be myself, but sometimes I find it’s
    better to be somebody else.' - Dave Matthews 'So Much To Say'
My 'reply to' address is valid, mail to the posting address is dumped
date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:28:50 GMT   author:   Tim Dunne

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message 
news:6Gegi.12344$p8.3959@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> "net"  wrote in message
> news:46816be4$0$5860$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>> A crop carving/circle has appeared in a field just up the road from
>> me. I saw it and took some pictures 26/6/07.
>
>> http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/crop
>
>
> It's normal wind damage, sorry.
>
> Tim

get out of it
date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:52:18 +0100   author:   net

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"net"  wrote in message
news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk

> get out of it

??

Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or 
odd patches.

Tim
-- 
Sent from Birmingham, UK...          Check out www.nervouscyclist.org
 'I find sometimes it’s easy to be myself, but sometimes I find it’s
    better to be somebody else.' - Dave Matthews 'So Much To Say'
My 'reply to' address is valid, mail to the posting address is dumped
date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:59:59 GMT   author:   Tim Dunne

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message 
news:PTggi.12424$p8.7432@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> "net"  wrote in message
> news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>
>> get out of it
>
> ??
>
> Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or
> odd patches.

not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see google 
earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all untouched. Wind 
as you speak of would not have confined itself to the boundaries of one 
field. An aerial shot is what's really needed here...
date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:23:22 +0100   author:   net

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"net"  wrote in message

> not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see
> google earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all
> untouched. Wind as you speak of would not have confined itself to the
> boundaries of one field.

That's exactly how wind often behaves in crops. It's often an effect of the 
profile of the landscape.

> An aerial shot is what's really needed
> here...

Shrugs...

Tim
-- 
Sent from Birmingham, UK...          Check out www.nervouscyclist.org
 'I find sometimes it’s easy to be myself, but sometimes I find it’s
    better to be somebody else.' - Dave Matthews 'So Much To Say'
My 'reply to' address is valid, mail to the posting address is dumped
date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:33:49 GMT   author:   Tim Dunne

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:23:22 +0100, "net" 
wrote:

>
>"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message 
>news:PTggi.12424$p8.7432@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> "net"  wrote in message
>> news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>>
>>> get out of it
>>
>> ??
>>
>> Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or
>> odd patches.
>
>not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see google 
>earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all untouched. Wind 
>as you speak of would not have confined itself to the boundaries of one 
>field. An aerial shot is what's really needed here... 
>

Strong localised downward gust of wind. Probably swirling.
Quite common before the existence of the short 
stalk type of crop. Interesting for all that.

Al
date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:05:02 +0100   author:   Al

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
In message <4681a00e$0$31685$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, net 
 writes
>
>"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message
>news:PTggi.12424$p8.7432@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> "net"  wrote in message
>> news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>>
>>> get out of it
>>
>> ??
>>
>> Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or
>> odd patches.
>
>not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see google
>earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all untouched. Wind
>as you speak of would not have confined itself to the boundaries of one
>field. An aerial shot is what's really needed here...
>
>

most likely wind damage. the 'proper' crop 'circles', as we know them in 
England, are made by humans...e.g. Wiltshire-based Team Satan.

Paul Vigay, however, is free to differ : )

-- 

Dr P
date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:25:39 +0100   author:   Dr P abworks

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:37:24 +0100, "net" 
wrote:

>A crop carving/circle has appeared in a field just up the road from
>me. I saw it and took some pictures 26/6/07. The field is to the left
>of Castle Hayes Lane, Google Earth ref: 52-50'52/83 N 1-41'57.89 W, or type 
>Tutbury into GE and find your way from there. If you do go there please be
>as respectful as you can of the farmers land and remaining undamaged crop.
>I would have to be the first to say it's probably a hoax - it looks
>like one but then I could only see it from the ground. Only a pilot in
>a plane could see what it is really like. Are there any pilots that
>could take a pic for the rest of us?
>Here are some pics I took.
>http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/crop
>
>
>
>
You have x-posted to a special newsgroup set up by
the the NuLabour Government to plug the gaps created by 
the abysmal failure of the Psychiatric Care in the Community Policy. 
which was implemented by the last Tory Government. This
policy was  not only continued but also expanded by this 
NuLabour Government. 
 
The uk.local hierarchy was devised to provide an outlet for
individuals who would otherwise be spending their days sitting
at home wearing an aluminium foil hat waiting for a full moon
to rise. It was hoped that this would reduce the incidence
of nutters out there howling at the moon and frightening the
shit out of their neighbours. Another of HMGs aims and 
objectives was to provide a distraction to take their minds
of the problem of who they were next going to knife to death.
Unfortunately, this group has been taken over by the 
articulate lower middle classes who have succeeding in 
driving HMGs target audience away. Independent research has
shown that it was the amount and quality of the inane drivel,
called small talk which the middle classes are adept at, which
had the effect of doing their heads in. They left to protect what 
was left of their sanity. This has happened to the whole of uk.local.
hierarchy.  This newsgroup in particular is a very good example 
of another HMG failure. It does however, provide a forum in which
one can talk about jobbies for ever and a day. (Contributed by Krustov)

I trust this post will help guide you in your future dealings with this
newsgroup.

Thank you.
date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:52:00 +0100   author:   Bob

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"net"  wrote in message
news:46816be4$0$5860$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
> A crop carving/circle has appeared in a field just up the road from
> me. I saw it and took some pictures 26/6/07.

> http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/crop


It's normal wind damage, sorry.

Tim

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date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:28:50 GMT   author:   Tim Dunne

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message 
news:6Gegi.12344$p8.3959@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> "net"  wrote in message
> news:46816be4$0$5860$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>> A crop carving/circle has appeared in a field just up the road from
>> me. I saw it and took some pictures 26/6/07.
>
>> http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/crop
>
>
> It's normal wind damage, sorry.
>
> Tim

get out of it
date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:52:18 +0100   author:   net

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"net"  wrote in message
news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk

> get out of it

??

Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or 
odd patches.

Tim
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date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:59:59 GMT   author:   Tim Dunne

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message 
news:PTggi.12424$p8.7432@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> "net"  wrote in message
> news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>
>> get out of it
>
> ??
>
> Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or
> odd patches.

not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see google 
earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all untouched. Wind 
as you speak of would not have confined itself to the boundaries of one 
field. An aerial shot is what's really needed here...
date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:23:22 +0100   author:   net

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"net"  wrote in message

> not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see
> google earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all
> untouched. Wind as you speak of would not have confined itself to the
> boundaries of one field.

That's exactly how wind often behaves in crops. It's often an effect of the 
profile of the landscape.

> An aerial shot is what's really needed
> here...

Shrugs...

Tim
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date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:33:49 GMT   author:   Tim Dunne

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:23:22 +0100, "net" 
wrote:

>
>"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message 
>news:PTggi.12424$p8.7432@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> "net"  wrote in message
>> news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>>
>>> get out of it
>>
>> ??
>>
>> Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or
>> odd patches.
>
>not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see google 
>earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all untouched. Wind 
>as you speak of would not have confined itself to the boundaries of one 
>field. An aerial shot is what's really needed here... 
>

Strong localised downward gust of wind. Probably swirling.
Quite common before the existence of the short 
stalk type of crop. Interesting for all that.

Al
date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:05:02 +0100   author:   Al

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
In message <4681a00e$0$31685$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, net 
 writes
>
>"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message
>news:PTggi.12424$p8.7432@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> "net"  wrote in message
>> news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>>
>>> get out of it
>>
>> ??
>>
>> Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or
>> odd patches.
>
>not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see google
>earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all untouched. Wind
>as you speak of would not have confined itself to the boundaries of one
>field. An aerial shot is what's really needed here...
>
>

most likely wind damage. the 'proper' crop 'circles', as we know them in 
England, are made by humans...e.g. Wiltshire-based Team Satan.

Paul Vigay, however, is free to differ : )

-- 

Dr P
date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:25:39 +0100   author:   Dr P abworks

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:37:24 +0100, "net" 
wrote:

>A crop carving/circle has appeared in a field just up the road from
>me. I saw it and took some pictures 26/6/07. The field is to the left
>of Castle Hayes Lane, Google Earth ref: 52-50'52/83 N 1-41'57.89 W, or type 
>Tutbury into GE and find your way from there. If you do go there please be
>as respectful as you can of the farmers land and remaining undamaged crop.
>I would have to be the first to say it's probably a hoax - it looks
>like one but then I could only see it from the ground. Only a pilot in
>a plane could see what it is really like. Are there any pilots that
>could take a pic for the rest of us?
>Here are some pics I took.
>http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/crop
>
>
>
>
You have x-posted to a special newsgroup set up by
the the NuLabour Government to plug the gaps created by 
the abysmal failure of the Psychiatric Care in the Community Policy. 
which was implemented by the last Tory Government. This
policy was  not only continued but also expanded by this 
NuLabour Government. 
 
The uk.local hierarchy was devised to provide an outlet for
individuals who would otherwise be spending their days sitting
at home wearing an aluminium foil hat waiting for a full moon
to rise. It was hoped that this would reduce the incidence
of nutters out there howling at the moon and frightening the
shit out of their neighbours. Another of HMGs aims and 
objectives was to provide a distraction to take their minds
of the problem of who they were next going to knife to death.
Unfortunately, this group has been taken over by the 
articulate lower middle classes who have succeeding in 
driving HMGs target audience away. Independent research has
shown that it was the amount and quality of the inane drivel,
called small talk which the middle classes are adept at, which
had the effect of doing their heads in. They left to protect what 
was left of their sanity. This has happened to the whole of uk.local.
hierarchy.  This newsgroup in particular is a very good example 
of another HMG failure. It does however, provide a forum in which
one can talk about jobbies for ever and a day. (Contributed by Krustov)

I trust this post will help guide you in your future dealings with this
newsgroup.

Thank you.
date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:52:00 +0100   author:   Bob

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"net"  wrote in message
news:46816be4$0$5860$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
> A crop carving/circle has appeared in a field just up the road from
> me. I saw it and took some pictures 26/6/07.

> http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/crop


It's normal wind damage, sorry.

Tim

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date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:28:50 GMT   author:   Tim Dunne

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message 
news:6Gegi.12344$p8.3959@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> "net"  wrote in message
> news:46816be4$0$5860$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>> A crop carving/circle has appeared in a field just up the road from
>> me. I saw it and took some pictures 26/6/07.
>
>> http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/crop
>
>
> It's normal wind damage, sorry.
>
> Tim

get out of it
date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:52:18 +0100   author:   net

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"net"  wrote in message
news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk

> get out of it

??

Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or 
odd patches.

Tim
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date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:59:59 GMT   author:   Tim Dunne

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message 
news:PTggi.12424$p8.7432@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> "net"  wrote in message
> news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>
>> get out of it
>
> ??
>
> Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or
> odd patches.

not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see google 
earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all untouched. Wind 
as you speak of would not have confined itself to the boundaries of one 
field. An aerial shot is what's really needed here...
date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:23:22 +0100   author:   net

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"net"  wrote in message

> not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see
> google earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all
> untouched. Wind as you speak of would not have confined itself to the
> boundaries of one field.

That's exactly how wind often behaves in crops. It's often an effect of the 
profile of the landscape.

> An aerial shot is what's really needed
> here...

Shrugs...

Tim
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 'I find sometimes it’s easy to be myself, but sometimes I find it’s
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date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:33:49 GMT   author:   Tim Dunne

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:23:22 +0100, "net" 
wrote:

>
>"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message 
>news:PTggi.12424$p8.7432@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> "net"  wrote in message
>> news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>>
>>> get out of it
>>
>> ??
>>
>> Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or
>> odd patches.
>
>not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see google 
>earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all untouched. Wind 
>as you speak of would not have confined itself to the boundaries of one 
>field. An aerial shot is what's really needed here... 
>

Strong localised downward gust of wind. Probably swirling.
Quite common before the existence of the short 
stalk type of crop. Interesting for all that.

Al
date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:05:02 +0100   author:   Al

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
In message <4681a00e$0$31685$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, net 
 writes
>
>"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message
>news:PTggi.12424$p8.7432@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> "net"  wrote in message
>> news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>>
>>> get out of it
>>
>> ??
>>
>> Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or
>> odd patches.
>
>not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see google
>earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all untouched. Wind
>as you speak of would not have confined itself to the boundaries of one
>field. An aerial shot is what's really needed here...
>
>

most likely wind damage. the 'proper' crop 'circles', as we know them in 
England, are made by humans...e.g. Wiltshire-based Team Satan.

Paul Vigay, however, is free to differ : )

-- 

Dr P
date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:25:39 +0100   author:   Dr P abworks

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:37:24 +0100, "net" 
wrote:

>A crop carving/circle has appeared in a field just up the road from
>me. I saw it and took some pictures 26/6/07. The field is to the left
>of Castle Hayes Lane, Google Earth ref: 52-50'52/83 N 1-41'57.89 W, or type 
>Tutbury into GE and find your way from there. If you do go there please be
>as respectful as you can of the farmers land and remaining undamaged crop.
>I would have to be the first to say it's probably a hoax - it looks
>like one but then I could only see it from the ground. Only a pilot in
>a plane could see what it is really like. Are there any pilots that
>could take a pic for the rest of us?
>Here are some pics I took.
>http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/crop
>
>
>
>
You have x-posted to a special newsgroup set up by
the the NuLabour Government to plug the gaps created by 
the abysmal failure of the Psychiatric Care in the Community Policy. 
which was implemented by the last Tory Government. This
policy was  not only continued but also expanded by this 
NuLabour Government. 
 
The uk.local hierarchy was devised to provide an outlet for
individuals who would otherwise be spending their days sitting
at home wearing an aluminium foil hat waiting for a full moon
to rise. It was hoped that this would reduce the incidence
of nutters out there howling at the moon and frightening the
shit out of their neighbours. Another of HMGs aims and 
objectives was to provide a distraction to take their minds
of the problem of who they were next going to knife to death.
Unfortunately, this group has been taken over by the 
articulate lower middle classes who have succeeding in 
driving HMGs target audience away. Independent research has
shown that it was the amount and quality of the inane drivel,
called small talk which the middle classes are adept at, which
had the effect of doing their heads in. They left to protect what 
was left of their sanity. This has happened to the whole of uk.local.
hierarchy.  This newsgroup in particular is a very good example 
of another HMG failure. It does however, provide a forum in which
one can talk about jobbies for ever and a day. (Contributed by Krustov)

I trust this post will help guide you in your future dealings with this
newsgroup.

Thank you.
date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:52:00 +0100   author:   Bob

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"net"  wrote in message
news:46816be4$0$5860$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
> A crop carving/circle has appeared in a field just up the road from
> me. I saw it and took some pictures 26/6/07.

> http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/crop


It's normal wind damage, sorry.

Tim

      Check out www.nervouscyclist.org
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date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:28:50 GMT   author:   Tim Dunne

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message 
news:6Gegi.12344$p8.3959@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> "net"  wrote in message
> news:46816be4$0$5860$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>> A crop carving/circle has appeared in a field just up the road from
>> me. I saw it and took some pictures 26/6/07.
>
>> http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/crop
>
>
> It's normal wind damage, sorry.
>
> Tim

get out of it
date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:52:18 +0100   author:   net

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"net"  wrote in message
news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk

> get out of it

??

Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or 
odd patches.

Tim
-- 
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 'I find sometimes it’s easy to be myself, but sometimes I find it’s
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date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:59:59 GMT   author:   Tim Dunne

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message 
news:PTggi.12424$p8.7432@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> "net"  wrote in message
> news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>
>> get out of it
>
> ??
>
> Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or
> odd patches.

not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see google 
earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all untouched. Wind 
as you speak of would not have confined itself to the boundaries of one 
field. An aerial shot is what's really needed here...
date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:23:22 +0100   author:   net

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"net"  wrote in message

> not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see
> google earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all
> untouched. Wind as you speak of would not have confined itself to the
> boundaries of one field.

That's exactly how wind often behaves in crops. It's often an effect of the 
profile of the landscape.

> An aerial shot is what's really needed
> here...

Shrugs...

Tim
-- 
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 'I find sometimes it’s easy to be myself, but sometimes I find it’s
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date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:33:49 GMT   author:   Tim Dunne

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:23:22 +0100, "net" 
wrote:

>
>"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message 
>news:PTggi.12424$p8.7432@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> "net"  wrote in message
>> news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>>
>>> get out of it
>>
>> ??
>>
>> Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or
>> odd patches.
>
>not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see google 
>earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all untouched. Wind 
>as you speak of would not have confined itself to the boundaries of one 
>field. An aerial shot is what's really needed here... 
>

Strong localised downward gust of wind. Probably swirling.
Quite common before the existence of the short 
stalk type of crop. Interesting for all that.

Al
date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:05:02 +0100   author:   Al

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
In message <4681a00e$0$31685$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, net 
 writes
>
>"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message
>news:PTggi.12424$p8.7432@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> "net"  wrote in message
>> news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>>
>>> get out of it
>>
>> ??
>>
>> Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or
>> odd patches.
>
>not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see google
>earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all untouched. Wind
>as you speak of would not have confined itself to the boundaries of one
>field. An aerial shot is what's really needed here...
>
>

most likely wind damage. the 'proper' crop 'circles', as we know them in 
England, are made by humans...e.g. Wiltshire-based Team Satan.

Paul Vigay, however, is free to differ : )

-- 

Dr P
date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:25:39 +0100   author:   Dr P abworks

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:37:24 +0100, "net" 
wrote:

>A crop carving/circle has appeared in a field just up the road from
>me. I saw it and took some pictures 26/6/07. The field is to the left
>of Castle Hayes Lane, Google Earth ref: 52-50'52/83 N 1-41'57.89 W, or type 
>Tutbury into GE and find your way from there. If you do go there please be
>as respectful as you can of the farmers land and remaining undamaged crop.
>I would have to be the first to say it's probably a hoax - it looks
>like one but then I could only see it from the ground. Only a pilot in
>a plane could see what it is really like. Are there any pilots that
>could take a pic for the rest of us?
>Here are some pics I took.
>http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/crop
>
>
>
>
You have x-posted to a special newsgroup set up by
the the NuLabour Government to plug the gaps created by 
the abysmal failure of the Psychiatric Care in the Community Policy. 
which was implemented by the last Tory Government. This
policy was  not only continued but also expanded by this 
NuLabour Government. 
 
The uk.local hierarchy was devised to provide an outlet for
individuals who would otherwise be spending their days sitting
at home wearing an aluminium foil hat waiting for a full moon
to rise. It was hoped that this would reduce the incidence
of nutters out there howling at the moon and frightening the
shit out of their neighbours. Another of HMGs aims and 
objectives was to provide a distraction to take their minds
of the problem of who they were next going to knife to death.
Unfortunately, this group has been taken over by the 
articulate lower middle classes who have succeeding in 
driving HMGs target audience away. Independent research has
shown that it was the amount and quality of the inane drivel,
called small talk which the middle classes are adept at, which
had the effect of doing their heads in. They left to protect what 
was left of their sanity. This has happened to the whole of uk.local.
hierarchy.  This newsgroup in particular is a very good example 
of another HMG failure. It does however, provide a forum in which
one can talk about jobbies for ever and a day. (Contributed by Krustov)

I trust this post will help guide you in your future dealings with this
newsgroup.

Thank you.
date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:52:00 +0100   author:   Bob

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"net"  wrote in message
news:46816be4$0$5860$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
> A crop carving/circle has appeared in a field just up the road from
> me. I saw it and took some pictures 26/6/07.

> http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/crop


It's normal wind damage, sorry.

Tim

      Check out www.nervouscyclist.org
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date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:28:50 GMT   author:   Tim Dunne

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message 
news:6Gegi.12344$p8.3959@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> "net"  wrote in message
> news:46816be4$0$5860$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>> A crop carving/circle has appeared in a field just up the road from
>> me. I saw it and took some pictures 26/6/07.
>
>> http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/crop
>
>
> It's normal wind damage, sorry.
>
> Tim

get out of it
date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:52:18 +0100   author:   net

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"net"  wrote in message
news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk

> get out of it

??

Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or 
odd patches.

Tim
-- 
Sent from Birmingham, UK...          Check out www.nervouscyclist.org
 'I find sometimes it’s easy to be myself, but sometimes I find it’s
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date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:59:59 GMT   author:   Tim Dunne

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message 
news:PTggi.12424$p8.7432@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> "net"  wrote in message
> news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>
>> get out of it
>
> ??
>
> Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or
> odd patches.

not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see google 
earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all untouched. Wind 
as you speak of would not have confined itself to the boundaries of one 
field. An aerial shot is what's really needed here...
date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:23:22 +0100   author:   net

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"net"  wrote in message

> not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see
> google earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all
> untouched. Wind as you speak of would not have confined itself to the
> boundaries of one field.

That's exactly how wind often behaves in crops. It's often an effect of the 
profile of the landscape.

> An aerial shot is what's really needed
> here...

Shrugs...

Tim
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date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:33:49 GMT   author:   Tim Dunne

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:23:22 +0100, "net" 
wrote:

>
>"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message 
>news:PTggi.12424$p8.7432@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> "net"  wrote in message
>> news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>>
>>> get out of it
>>
>> ??
>>
>> Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or
>> odd patches.
>
>not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see google 
>earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all untouched. Wind 
>as you speak of would not have confined itself to the boundaries of one 
>field. An aerial shot is what's really needed here... 
>

Strong localised downward gust of wind. Probably swirling.
Quite common before the existence of the short 
stalk type of crop. Interesting for all that.

Al
date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:05:02 +0100   author:   Al

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
In message <4681a00e$0$31685$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, net 
 writes
>
>"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message
>news:PTggi.12424$p8.7432@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> "net"  wrote in message
>> news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>>
>>> get out of it
>>
>> ??
>>
>> Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or
>> odd patches.
>
>not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see google
>earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all untouched. Wind
>as you speak of would not have confined itself to the boundaries of one
>field. An aerial shot is what's really needed here...
>
>

most likely wind damage. the 'proper' crop 'circles', as we know them in 
England, are made by humans...e.g. Wiltshire-based Team Satan.

Paul Vigay, however, is free to differ : )

-- 

Dr P
date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:25:39 +0100   author:   Dr P abworks

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:37:24 +0100, "net" 
wrote:

>A crop carving/circle has appeared in a field just up the road from
>me. I saw it and took some pictures 26/6/07. The field is to the left
>of Castle Hayes Lane, Google Earth ref: 52-50'52/83 N 1-41'57.89 W, or type 
>Tutbury into GE and find your way from there. If you do go there please be
>as respectful as you can of the farmers land and remaining undamaged crop.
>I would have to be the first to say it's probably a hoax - it looks
>like one but then I could only see it from the ground. Only a pilot in
>a plane could see what it is really like. Are there any pilots that
>could take a pic for the rest of us?
>Here are some pics I took.
>http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/crop
>
>
>
>
You have x-posted to a special newsgroup set up by
the the NuLabour Government to plug the gaps created by 
the abysmal failure of the Psychiatric Care in the Community Policy. 
which was implemented by the last Tory Government. This
policy was  not only continued but also expanded by this 
NuLabour Government. 
 
The uk.local hierarchy was devised to provide an outlet for
individuals who would otherwise be spending their days sitting
at home wearing an aluminium foil hat waiting for a full moon
to rise. It was hoped that this would reduce the incidence
of nutters out there howling at the moon and frightening the
shit out of their neighbours. Another of HMGs aims and 
objectives was to provide a distraction to take their minds
of the problem of who they were next going to knife to death.
Unfortunately, this group has been taken over by the 
articulate lower middle classes who have succeeding in 
driving HMGs target audience away. Independent research has
shown that it was the amount and quality of the inane drivel,
called small talk which the middle classes are adept at, which
had the effect of doing their heads in. They left to protect what 
was left of their sanity. This has happened to the whole of uk.local.
hierarchy.  This newsgroup in particular is a very good example 
of another HMG failure. It does however, provide a forum in which
one can talk about jobbies for ever and a day. (Contributed by Krustov)

I trust this post will help guide you in your future dealings with this
newsgroup.

Thank you.
date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:52:00 +0100   author:   Bob

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"net"  wrote in message
news:46816be4$0$5860$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
> A crop carving/circle has appeared in a field just up the road from
> me. I saw it and took some pictures 26/6/07.

> http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/crop


It's normal wind damage, sorry.

Tim

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date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:28:50 GMT   author:   Tim Dunne

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message 
news:6Gegi.12344$p8.3959@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> "net"  wrote in message
> news:46816be4$0$5860$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>> A crop carving/circle has appeared in a field just up the road from
>> me. I saw it and took some pictures 26/6/07.
>
>> http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/crop
>
>
> It's normal wind damage, sorry.
>
> Tim

get out of it
date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:52:18 +0100   author:   net

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"net"  wrote in message
news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk

> get out of it

??

Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or 
odd patches.

Tim
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date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:59:59 GMT   author:   Tim Dunne

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message 
news:PTggi.12424$p8.7432@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> "net"  wrote in message
> news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>
>> get out of it
>
> ??
>
> Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or
> odd patches.

not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see google 
earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all untouched. Wind 
as you speak of would not have confined itself to the boundaries of one 
field. An aerial shot is what's really needed here...
date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:23:22 +0100   author:   net

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
"net"  wrote in message

> not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see
> google earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all
> untouched. Wind as you speak of would not have confined itself to the
> boundaries of one field.

That's exactly how wind often behaves in crops. It's often an effect of the 
profile of the landscape.

> An aerial shot is what's really needed
> here...

Shrugs...

Tim
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date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:33:49 GMT   author:   Tim Dunne

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:23:22 +0100, "net" 
wrote:

>
>"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message 
>news:PTggi.12424$p8.7432@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> "net"  wrote in message
>> news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>>
>>> get out of it
>>
>> ??
>>
>> Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or
>> odd patches.
>
>not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see google 
>earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all untouched. Wind 
>as you speak of would not have confined itself to the boundaries of one 
>field. An aerial shot is what's really needed here... 
>

Strong localised downward gust of wind. Probably swirling.
Quite common before the existence of the short 
stalk type of crop. Interesting for all that.

Al
date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:05:02 +0100   author:   Al

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
In message <4681a00e$0$31685$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, net 
 writes
>
>"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message
>news:PTggi.12424$p8.7432@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> "net"  wrote in message
>> news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>>
>>> get out of it
>>
>> ??
>>
>> Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or
>> odd patches.
>
>not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see google
>earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all untouched. Wind
>as you speak of would not have confined itself to the boundaries of one
>field. An aerial shot is what's really needed here...
>
>

most likely wind damage. the 'proper' crop 'circles', as we know them in 
England, are made by humans...e.g. Wiltshire-based Team Satan.

Paul Vigay, however, is free to differ : )

-- 

Dr P
date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:25:39 +0100   author:   Dr P abworks

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
In message <4681a00e$0$31685$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, net 
 writes
>
>"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message
>news:PTggi.12424$p8.7432@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> "net"  wrote in message
>> news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>>
>>> get out of it
>>
>> ??
>>
>> Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or
>> odd patches.
>
>not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see google
>earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all untouched. Wind
>as you speak of would not have confined itself to the boundaries of one
>field. An aerial shot is what's really needed here...
>
>

most likely wind damage. the 'proper' crop 'circles', as we know them in 
England, are made by humans...e.g. Wiltshire-based Team Satan.

Paul Vigay, however, is free to differ : )

-- 

Dr P
date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:25:39 +0100   author:   Dr P abworks

Re: crop carving/circle England Derbyshire   
In message <4681a00e$0$31685$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, net 
 writes
>
>"Tim Dunne"  wrote in message
>news:PTggi.12424$p8.7432@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> "net"  wrote in message
>> news:46818ab2$0$5867$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
>>
>>> get out of it
>>
>> ??
>>
>> Looks like it to me. Wind will flatten planted fields in strips, swirls or
>> odd patches.
>
>not like this though, and this field is flanked by other fields (see google
>earth) with the same crop at the same height and they're all untouched. Wind
>as you speak of would not have confined itself to the boundaries of one
>field. An aerial shot is what's really needed here...
>
>

most likely wind damage. the 'proper' crop 'circles', as we know them in 
England, are made by humans...e.g. Wiltshire-based Team Satan.

Paul Vigay, however, is free to differ : )

-- 

Dr P
date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:25:39 +0100   author:   Dr P abworks

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