Deep peace of the running wave to you.
Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.

Perry Ross wrote:
> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
And "fuck off" to you.

Perry Ross wrote:
> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.

I'm Irish.
Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing* before.

"Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
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> Perry Ross wrote:
>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>
> I'm Irish.
> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing* before.
>

Maybe, it's the way he tells 'em?

"Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
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> Perry Ross wrote:
>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>
> I'm Irish.
> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing* before.


Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.

-- 
Dave (Sgt. Pepper)       Epsom, England
    Nikon D2X / D2Hs / D2H / D100 / Coolpix 5700
    My photo galleries at  http://www.pbase.com/davecq
    "I will not tolerate intolerance ... Doh!!"

"Dave (Sgt. Pepper)"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>
>> I'm Irish.
>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing* 
>> before.
>
>
> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.

You wouldn't would you, if a bunch of twats kept invading you.

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> And "fck off" to you.

Please don't feed the trolls.

Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
> 
> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>
>> I'm Irish.
>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing* 
>> before.
> 
> 
> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
> 

Oops, bit controversial there Dave. Expect some flamers..

B (half Irish)

Blackthorn wrote:
> "Dave (Sgt. Pepper)"  wrote in message 
> news:HYSdnSwCyPwkS4LbnZ2dnUVZ8tyqnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
>> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>> I'm Irish.
>>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing* 
>>> before.
>>
>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
> 
> You wouldn't would you, if a bunch of twats kept invading you. 
> 
> 

And when was the last time?

Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>
>> I'm Irish.
>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing*
>> before.
>
>
> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.

Compared to who?
Compared to the British who roamed the world weilding a big stick and 
shooting the fuzzy wuzzies?
Compared to the Radical Muslims who are hell bent on killing everything that 
moves, and blowing up everything that doesn't?
Compared to the Americans who are nothing short of war-mongering 
armageddon-merchants?
Compared to the British again, who are nothing more than the Americans 
war-mongering sidekicks?

Fat Sam wrote:
> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
>> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>> I'm Irish.
>>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing*
>>> before.
>>
>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
> 
> Compared to who?
> Compared to the British who roamed the world weilding a big stick and 
> shooting the fuzzy wuzzies?
> Compared to the Radical Muslims who are hell bent on killing everything that 
> moves, and blowing up everything that doesn't?
> Compared to the Americans who are nothing short of war-mongering 
> armageddon-merchants?
> Compared to the British again, who are nothing more than the Americans 
> war-mongering sidekicks? 
> 
> 

Or compared to the good old bhoys who blew up a couple of kids on a 
Warrington street?
Forget Enniskillen did we?

Crazy old world..

BrianE wrote:
> Fat Sam wrote:
>> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>>> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
>>> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>>>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>>> I'm Irish.
>>>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing*
>>>> before.
>>>
>>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
>>
>> Compared to who?
>> Compared to the British who roamed the world weilding a big stick and
>> shooting the fuzzy wuzzies?
>> Compared to the Radical Muslims who are hell bent on killing
>> everything that moves, and blowing up everything that doesn't?
>> Compared to the Americans who are nothing short of war-mongering
>> armageddon-merchants?
>> Compared to the British again, who are nothing more than the
>> Americans war-mongering sidekicks?
>>
>>
>
> Or compared to the good old bhoys who blew up a couple of kids on a
> Warrington street?
> Forget Enniskillen did we?

Certainly not. As an ex-serving member of her majseties armed forces, I'm 
hardly likely to forget things like that.

> Crazy old world..

My point wasn't that the Irish are a peace-loving nation. I know my 
countrymen have committed some attrocities, which are shamefull to say the 
least.
My point was that the Irish are not the only violent nation.
And anyone who claims a nation knows fuck all about peace, while hailing 
from one of the most violent nations on earth, is nothing short of an idiot.

"BrianE"  wrote in message 
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> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>>
>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
>>
>
> Oops, bit controversial there Dave. Expect some flamers..
>
> B (half Irish)

Don't worry Brian, I've got the flack jacket on   ;o)

D (half-pissed)

-- 
Dave (Sgt. Pepper)       Epsom, England
    Nikon D2X / D2Hs / D2H / D100 / Coolpix 5700
    My photo galleries at  http://www.pbase.com/davecq
    "I will not tolerate intolerance ... Doh!!"

"Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
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> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>>
>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
>
> Would you be inclined to be peacefull towards someone who invaded your 
> country and forcibly imposed their will and customs upon you?

Absolutely not, which is why I detest what has happened to my country with 
it's uncontrolled immigration, including religious fanatics.

-- 
Dave (Sgt. Pepper)       Epsom, England
    Nikon D2X / D2Hs / D2H / D100 / Coolpix 5700
    My photo galleries at  http://www.pbase.com/davecq
    "I will not tolerate intolerance ... Doh!!"

"Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
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> And anyone who claims a nation knows fuck all about peace, while hailing 
> from one of the most violent nations on earth, is nothing short of an 
> idiot.

I take extreme exception to that.  Anyone who knows me will tell you that I 
am a tall idiot.

-- 
Dave (Sgt. Pepper)       Epsom, England
    Nikon D2X / D2Hs / D2H / D100 / Coolpix 5700
    My photo galleries at  http://www.pbase.com/davecq
    "I will not tolerate intolerance ... Doh!!"

Fat Sam wrote:
> BrianE wrote:
>> Fat Sam wrote:
>>> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>>>> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
>>>> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>>>>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>>>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>>>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>>>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>>>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>>>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>>>> I'm Irish.
>>>>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing*
>>>>> before.
>>>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
>>> Compared to who?
>>> Compared to the British who roamed the world weilding a big stick and
>>> shooting the fuzzy wuzzies?
>>> Compared to the Radical Muslims who are hell bent on killing
>>> everything that moves, and blowing up everything that doesn't?
>>> Compared to the Americans who are nothing short of war-mongering
>>> armageddon-merchants?
>>> Compared to the British again, who are nothing more than the
>>> Americans war-mongering sidekicks?
>>>
>>>
>> Or compared to the good old bhoys who blew up a couple of kids on a
>> Warrington street?
>> Forget Enniskillen did we?
> 
> Certainly not. As an ex-serving member of her majseties armed forces, I'm 
> hardly likely to forget things like that.
> 
>> Crazy old world..
> 
> My point wasn't that the Irish are a peace-loving nation. I know my 
> countrymen have committed some attrocities, which are shamefull to say the 
> least.
> My point was that the Irish are not the only violent nation.

If you think about it, all nations have violent histories..

French - Indo China
Germans
Japs
Spanish & Portuguese - The Americas
Dutch - Africa
All the mess that is the Balkans
The Turks
Russians
Egyptians
The Vikings with all their pillaging

Not so much a national problem, more to do with inherent behaviour 
within homo sapiens.

How did that Billy Joel song go... 'we didn't start the fire, the fires 
are burning since the world's been turning'


> And anyone who claims a nation knows fuck all about peace, while hailing 
> from one of the most violent nations on earth, is nothing short of an idiot. 
> 
> 

In fairness I think it was one of those throw away quips in the context 
of the blessing crap..
Not to be taken too seriously.

:-)

Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
> 
> "BrianE"  wrote in message 
> news:58a3keF2fs0jqU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>>>
>>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
>>>
>>
>> Oops, bit controversial there Dave. Expect some flamers..
>>
>> B (half Irish)
> 
> Don't worry Brian, I've got the flack jacket on   ;o)
> 
> D (half-pissed)
> 

Hehe..

Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
> news:n5RTh.111$V7.47@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>
>> And anyone who claims a nation knows fuck all about peace, while
>> hailing from one of the most violent nations on earth, is nothing
>> short of an idiot.
>
> I take extreme exception to that.  Anyone who knows me will tell you
> that I am a tall idiot.

Sorry. Put it down to me being Irish and aggressive ;-)

BrianE wrote:
> Fat Sam wrote:
>> BrianE wrote:
>>> Fat Sam wrote:
>>>> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>>>>> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>>>>>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>>>>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>>>>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>>>>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>>>>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>>>>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>>>>> I'm Irish.
>>>>>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish
>>>>>> Blessing* before.
>>>>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
>>>> Compared to who?
>>>> Compared to the British who roamed the world weilding a big stick
>>>> and shooting the fuzzy wuzzies?
>>>> Compared to the Radical Muslims who are hell bent on killing
>>>> everything that moves, and blowing up everything that doesn't?
>>>> Compared to the Americans who are nothing short of war-mongering
>>>> armageddon-merchants?
>>>> Compared to the British again, who are nothing more than the
>>>> Americans war-mongering sidekicks?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Or compared to the good old bhoys who blew up a couple of kids on a
>>> Warrington street?
>>> Forget Enniskillen did we?
>>
>> Certainly not. As an ex-serving member of her majseties armed
>> forces, I'm hardly likely to forget things like that.
>>
>>> Crazy old world..
>>
>> My point wasn't that the Irish are a peace-loving nation. I know my
>> countrymen have committed some attrocities, which are shamefull to
>> say the least.
>> My point was that the Irish are not the only violent nation.
>
> If you think about it, all nations have violent histories..
>
> French - Indo China
> Germans
> Japs
> Spanish & Portuguese - The Americas
> Dutch - Africa
> All the mess that is the Balkans
> The Turks
> Russians
> Egyptians
> The Vikings with all their pillaging
>
> Not so much a national problem, more to do with inherent behaviour
> within homo sapiens.
>
> How did that Billy Joel song go... 'we didn't start the fire, the
> fires are burning since the world's been turning'

Very good point.

>> And anyone who claims a nation knows fuck all about peace, while
>> hailing from one of the most violent nations on earth, is nothing
>> short of an idiot.
>
> In fairness I think it was one of those throw away quips in the
> context of the blessing crap..
> Not to be taken too seriously.

LOL. My rather less than eloquent response proved his point about the Irish 
somewhat ;-)

Fat Sam wrote:

> LOL. My rather less than eloquent response proved his point about the Irish 
> somewhat ;-) 
> 
> 

This thread has become far too civilised..

;-)

"Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
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> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
>> news:n5RTh.111$V7.47@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>>
>>> And anyone who claims a nation knows fuck all about peace, while
>>> hailing from one of the most violent nations on earth, is nothing
>>> short of an idiot.
>>
>> I take extreme exception to that.  Anyone who knows me will tell you
>> that I am a tall idiot.
>
> Sorry. Put it down to me being Irish and aggressive ;-)

Your apology most warmly accepted.  Actually I love the Irish people, and 
even more so their music ... I think I may just have some Irish blood 
flowing in me somewhere amidst the alcohol   ;o)

-- 
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    Nikon D2X / D2Hs / D2H / D100 / Coolpix 5700
    My photo galleries at  http://www.pbase.com/davecq
    "I will not tolerate intolerance ... Doh!!"

Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
> news:zoRTh.325$VT3.271@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>>> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
>>> news:n5RTh.111$V7.47@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>>>
>>>> And anyone who claims a nation knows fuck all about peace, while
>>>> hailing from one of the most violent nations on earth, is nothing
>>>> short of an idiot.
>>>
>>> I take extreme exception to that.  Anyone who knows me will tell you
>>> that I am a tall idiot.
>>
>> Sorry. Put it down to me being Irish and aggressive ;-)
>
> Your apology most warmly accepted.  Actually I love the Irish people,
> and even more so their music ... I think I may just have some Irish
> blood flowing in me somewhere amidst the alcohol   ;o)

LOL. I reckon everybody's got a bit of Irish in them somewhere. We tend to 
get everywhere, and with a cheeky wee glint in our eyes, we interbreed 
wherever we go.

Perry Ross wrote:
> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
And "fuck off" to you.

Perry Ross wrote:
> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.

I'm Irish.
Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing* before.

"Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
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> Perry Ross wrote:
>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>
> I'm Irish.
> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing* before.
>

Maybe, it's the way he tells 'em?

"Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
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> Perry Ross wrote:
>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>
> I'm Irish.
> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing* before.


Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.

-- 
Dave (Sgt. Pepper)       Epsom, England
    Nikon D2X / D2Hs / D2H / D100 / Coolpix 5700
    My photo galleries at  http://www.pbase.com/davecq
    "I will not tolerate intolerance ... Doh!!"

"Dave (Sgt. Pepper)"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>
>> I'm Irish.
>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing* 
>> before.
>
>
> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.

You wouldn't would you, if a bunch of twats kept invading you.

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> And "fck off" to you.

Please don't feed the trolls.

Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
> 
> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>
>> I'm Irish.
>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing* 
>> before.
> 
> 
> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
> 

Oops, bit controversial there Dave. Expect some flamers..

B (half Irish)

Blackthorn wrote:
> "Dave (Sgt. Pepper)"  wrote in message 
> news:HYSdnSwCyPwkS4LbnZ2dnUVZ8tyqnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
>> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>> I'm Irish.
>>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing* 
>>> before.
>>
>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
> 
> You wouldn't would you, if a bunch of twats kept invading you. 
> 
> 

And when was the last time?

Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>
>> I'm Irish.
>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing*
>> before.
>
>
> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.

Compared to who?
Compared to the British who roamed the world weilding a big stick and 
shooting the fuzzy wuzzies?
Compared to the Radical Muslims who are hell bent on killing everything that 
moves, and blowing up everything that doesn't?
Compared to the Americans who are nothing short of war-mongering 
armageddon-merchants?
Compared to the British again, who are nothing more than the Americans 
war-mongering sidekicks?

Fat Sam wrote:
> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
>> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>> I'm Irish.
>>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing*
>>> before.
>>
>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
> 
> Compared to who?
> Compared to the British who roamed the world weilding a big stick and 
> shooting the fuzzy wuzzies?
> Compared to the Radical Muslims who are hell bent on killing everything that 
> moves, and blowing up everything that doesn't?
> Compared to the Americans who are nothing short of war-mongering 
> armageddon-merchants?
> Compared to the British again, who are nothing more than the Americans 
> war-mongering sidekicks? 
> 
> 

Or compared to the good old bhoys who blew up a couple of kids on a 
Warrington street?
Forget Enniskillen did we?

Crazy old world..

BrianE wrote:
> Fat Sam wrote:
>> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>>> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
>>> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>>>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>>> I'm Irish.
>>>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing*
>>>> before.
>>>
>>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
>>
>> Compared to who?
>> Compared to the British who roamed the world weilding a big stick and
>> shooting the fuzzy wuzzies?
>> Compared to the Radical Muslims who are hell bent on killing
>> everything that moves, and blowing up everything that doesn't?
>> Compared to the Americans who are nothing short of war-mongering
>> armageddon-merchants?
>> Compared to the British again, who are nothing more than the
>> Americans war-mongering sidekicks?
>>
>>
>
> Or compared to the good old bhoys who blew up a couple of kids on a
> Warrington street?
> Forget Enniskillen did we?

Certainly not. As an ex-serving member of her majseties armed forces, I'm 
hardly likely to forget things like that.

> Crazy old world..

My point wasn't that the Irish are a peace-loving nation. I know my 
countrymen have committed some attrocities, which are shamefull to say the 
least.
My point was that the Irish are not the only violent nation.
And anyone who claims a nation knows fuck all about peace, while hailing 
from one of the most violent nations on earth, is nothing short of an idiot.

"BrianE"  wrote in message 
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> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>>
>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
>>
>
> Oops, bit controversial there Dave. Expect some flamers..
>
> B (half Irish)

Don't worry Brian, I've got the flack jacket on   ;o)

D (half-pissed)

-- 
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    Nikon D2X / D2Hs / D2H / D100 / Coolpix 5700
    My photo galleries at  http://www.pbase.com/davecq
    "I will not tolerate intolerance ... Doh!!"

"Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
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> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>>
>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
>
> Would you be inclined to be peacefull towards someone who invaded your 
> country and forcibly imposed their will and customs upon you?

Absolutely not, which is why I detest what has happened to my country with 
it's uncontrolled immigration, including religious fanatics.

-- 
Dave (Sgt. Pepper)       Epsom, England
    Nikon D2X / D2Hs / D2H / D100 / Coolpix 5700
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"Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
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> And anyone who claims a nation knows fuck all about peace, while hailing 
> from one of the most violent nations on earth, is nothing short of an 
> idiot.

I take extreme exception to that.  Anyone who knows me will tell you that I 
am a tall idiot.

-- 
Dave (Sgt. Pepper)       Epsom, England
    Nikon D2X / D2Hs / D2H / D100 / Coolpix 5700
    My photo galleries at  http://www.pbase.com/davecq
    "I will not tolerate intolerance ... Doh!!"

Fat Sam wrote:
> BrianE wrote:
>> Fat Sam wrote:
>>> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>>>> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
>>>> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>>>>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>>>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>>>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>>>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>>>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>>>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>>>> I'm Irish.
>>>>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing*
>>>>> before.
>>>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
>>> Compared to who?
>>> Compared to the British who roamed the world weilding a big stick and
>>> shooting the fuzzy wuzzies?
>>> Compared to the Radical Muslims who are hell bent on killing
>>> everything that moves, and blowing up everything that doesn't?
>>> Compared to the Americans who are nothing short of war-mongering
>>> armageddon-merchants?
>>> Compared to the British again, who are nothing more than the
>>> Americans war-mongering sidekicks?
>>>
>>>
>> Or compared to the good old bhoys who blew up a couple of kids on a
>> Warrington street?
>> Forget Enniskillen did we?
> 
> Certainly not. As an ex-serving member of her majseties armed forces, I'm 
> hardly likely to forget things like that.
> 
>> Crazy old world..
> 
> My point wasn't that the Irish are a peace-loving nation. I know my 
> countrymen have committed some attrocities, which are shamefull to say the 
> least.
> My point was that the Irish are not the only violent nation.

If you think about it, all nations have violent histories..

French - Indo China
Germans
Japs
Spanish & Portuguese - The Americas
Dutch - Africa
All the mess that is the Balkans
The Turks
Russians
Egyptians
The Vikings with all their pillaging

Not so much a national problem, more to do with inherent behaviour 
within homo sapiens.

How did that Billy Joel song go... 'we didn't start the fire, the fires 
are burning since the world's been turning'


> And anyone who claims a nation knows fuck all about peace, while hailing 
> from one of the most violent nations on earth, is nothing short of an idiot. 
> 
> 

In fairness I think it was one of those throw away quips in the context 
of the blessing crap..
Not to be taken too seriously.

:-)

Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
> 
> "BrianE"  wrote in message 
> news:58a3keF2fs0jqU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>>>
>>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
>>>
>>
>> Oops, bit controversial there Dave. Expect some flamers..
>>
>> B (half Irish)
> 
> Don't worry Brian, I've got the flack jacket on   ;o)
> 
> D (half-pissed)
> 

Hehe..

Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
> news:n5RTh.111$V7.47@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>
>> And anyone who claims a nation knows fuck all about peace, while
>> hailing from one of the most violent nations on earth, is nothing
>> short of an idiot.
>
> I take extreme exception to that.  Anyone who knows me will tell you
> that I am a tall idiot.

Sorry. Put it down to me being Irish and aggressive ;-)

BrianE wrote:
> Fat Sam wrote:
>> BrianE wrote:
>>> Fat Sam wrote:
>>>> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>>>>> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>>>>>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>>>>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>>>>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>>>>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>>>>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>>>>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>>>>> I'm Irish.
>>>>>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish
>>>>>> Blessing* before.
>>>>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
>>>> Compared to who?
>>>> Compared to the British who roamed the world weilding a big stick
>>>> and shooting the fuzzy wuzzies?
>>>> Compared to the Radical Muslims who are hell bent on killing
>>>> everything that moves, and blowing up everything that doesn't?
>>>> Compared to the Americans who are nothing short of war-mongering
>>>> armageddon-merchants?
>>>> Compared to the British again, who are nothing more than the
>>>> Americans war-mongering sidekicks?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Or compared to the good old bhoys who blew up a couple of kids on a
>>> Warrington street?
>>> Forget Enniskillen did we?
>>
>> Certainly not. As an ex-serving member of her majseties armed
>> forces, I'm hardly likely to forget things like that.
>>
>>> Crazy old world..
>>
>> My point wasn't that the Irish are a peace-loving nation. I know my
>> countrymen have committed some attrocities, which are shamefull to
>> say the least.
>> My point was that the Irish are not the only violent nation.
>
> If you think about it, all nations have violent histories..
>
> French - Indo China
> Germans
> Japs
> Spanish & Portuguese - The Americas
> Dutch - Africa
> All the mess that is the Balkans
> The Turks
> Russians
> Egyptians
> The Vikings with all their pillaging
>
> Not so much a national problem, more to do with inherent behaviour
> within homo sapiens.
>
> How did that Billy Joel song go... 'we didn't start the fire, the
> fires are burning since the world's been turning'

Very good point.

>> And anyone who claims a nation knows fuck all about peace, while
>> hailing from one of the most violent nations on earth, is nothing
>> short of an idiot.
>
> In fairness I think it was one of those throw away quips in the
> context of the blessing crap..
> Not to be taken too seriously.

LOL. My rather less than eloquent response proved his point about the Irish 
somewhat ;-)

Fat Sam wrote:

> LOL. My rather less than eloquent response proved his point about the Irish 
> somewhat ;-) 
> 
> 

This thread has become far too civilised..

;-)

"Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
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> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
>> news:n5RTh.111$V7.47@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>>
>>> And anyone who claims a nation knows fuck all about peace, while
>>> hailing from one of the most violent nations on earth, is nothing
>>> short of an idiot.
>>
>> I take extreme exception to that.  Anyone who knows me will tell you
>> that I am a tall idiot.
>
> Sorry. Put it down to me being Irish and aggressive ;-)

Your apology most warmly accepted.  Actually I love the Irish people, and 
even more so their music ... I think I may just have some Irish blood 
flowing in me somewhere amidst the alcohol   ;o)

-- 
Dave (Sgt. Pepper)       Epsom, England
    Nikon D2X / D2Hs / D2H / D100 / Coolpix 5700
    My photo galleries at  http://www.pbase.com/davecq
    "I will not tolerate intolerance ... Doh!!"

Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
> news:zoRTh.325$VT3.271@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>>> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
>>> news:n5RTh.111$V7.47@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>>>
>>>> And anyone who claims a nation knows fuck all about peace, while
>>>> hailing from one of the most violent nations on earth, is nothing
>>>> short of an idiot.
>>>
>>> I take extreme exception to that.  Anyone who knows me will tell you
>>> that I am a tall idiot.
>>
>> Sorry. Put it down to me being Irish and aggressive ;-)
>
> Your apology most warmly accepted.  Actually I love the Irish people,
> and even more so their music ... I think I may just have some Irish
> blood flowing in me somewhere amidst the alcohol   ;o)

LOL. I reckon everybody's got a bit of Irish in them somewhere. We tend to 
get everywhere, and with a cheeky wee glint in our eyes, we interbreed 
wherever we go.

Perry Ross wrote:
> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
And "fuck off" to you.

Perry Ross wrote:
> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.

I'm Irish.
Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing* before.

"Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
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> Perry Ross wrote:
>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>
> I'm Irish.
> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing* before.
>

Maybe, it's the way he tells 'em?

"Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
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> Perry Ross wrote:
>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>
> I'm Irish.
> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing* before.


Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.

-- 
Dave (Sgt. Pepper)       Epsom, England
    Nikon D2X / D2Hs / D2H / D100 / Coolpix 5700
    My photo galleries at  http://www.pbase.com/davecq
    "I will not tolerate intolerance ... Doh!!"

"Dave (Sgt. Pepper)"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>
>> I'm Irish.
>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing* 
>> before.
>
>
> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.

You wouldn't would you, if a bunch of twats kept invading you.

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> And "fck off" to you.

Please don't feed the trolls.

Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
> 
> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>
>> I'm Irish.
>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing* 
>> before.
> 
> 
> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
> 

Oops, bit controversial there Dave. Expect some flamers..

B (half Irish)

Blackthorn wrote:
> "Dave (Sgt. Pepper)"  wrote in message 
> news:HYSdnSwCyPwkS4LbnZ2dnUVZ8tyqnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
>> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>> I'm Irish.
>>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing* 
>>> before.
>>
>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
> 
> You wouldn't would you, if a bunch of twats kept invading you. 
> 
> 

And when was the last time?

Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>
>> I'm Irish.
>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing*
>> before.
>
>
> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.

Compared to who?
Compared to the British who roamed the world weilding a big stick and 
shooting the fuzzy wuzzies?
Compared to the Radical Muslims who are hell bent on killing everything that 
moves, and blowing up everything that doesn't?
Compared to the Americans who are nothing short of war-mongering 
armageddon-merchants?
Compared to the British again, who are nothing more than the Americans 
war-mongering sidekicks?

Fat Sam wrote:
> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
>> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>> I'm Irish.
>>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing*
>>> before.
>>
>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
> 
> Compared to who?
> Compared to the British who roamed the world weilding a big stick and 
> shooting the fuzzy wuzzies?
> Compared to the Radical Muslims who are hell bent on killing everything that 
> moves, and blowing up everything that doesn't?
> Compared to the Americans who are nothing short of war-mongering 
> armageddon-merchants?
> Compared to the British again, who are nothing more than the Americans 
> war-mongering sidekicks? 
> 
> 

Or compared to the good old bhoys who blew up a couple of kids on a 
Warrington street?
Forget Enniskillen did we?

Crazy old world..

BrianE wrote:
> Fat Sam wrote:
>> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>>> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
>>> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>>>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>>> I'm Irish.
>>>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing*
>>>> before.
>>>
>>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
>>
>> Compared to who?
>> Compared to the British who roamed the world weilding a big stick and
>> shooting the fuzzy wuzzies?
>> Compared to the Radical Muslims who are hell bent on killing
>> everything that moves, and blowing up everything that doesn't?
>> Compared to the Americans who are nothing short of war-mongering
>> armageddon-merchants?
>> Compared to the British again, who are nothing more than the
>> Americans war-mongering sidekicks?
>>
>>
>
> Or compared to the good old bhoys who blew up a couple of kids on a
> Warrington street?
> Forget Enniskillen did we?

Certainly not. As an ex-serving member of her majseties armed forces, I'm 
hardly likely to forget things like that.

> Crazy old world..

My point wasn't that the Irish are a peace-loving nation. I know my 
countrymen have committed some attrocities, which are shamefull to say the 
least.
My point was that the Irish are not the only violent nation.
And anyone who claims a nation knows fuck all about peace, while hailing 
from one of the most violent nations on earth, is nothing short of an idiot.

"BrianE"  wrote in message 
news:58a3keF2fs0jqU1@mid.individual.net...
> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>>
>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
>>
>
> Oops, bit controversial there Dave. Expect some flamers..
>
> B (half Irish)

Don't worry Brian, I've got the flack jacket on   ;o)

D (half-pissed)

-- 
Dave (Sgt. Pepper)       Epsom, England
    Nikon D2X / D2Hs / D2H / D100 / Coolpix 5700
    My photo galleries at  http://www.pbase.com/davecq
    "I will not tolerate intolerance ... Doh!!"

"Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
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> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>>
>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
>
> Would you be inclined to be peacefull towards someone who invaded your 
> country and forcibly imposed their will and customs upon you?

Absolutely not, which is why I detest what has happened to my country with 
it's uncontrolled immigration, including religious fanatics.

-- 
Dave (Sgt. Pepper)       Epsom, England
    Nikon D2X / D2Hs / D2H / D100 / Coolpix 5700
    My photo galleries at  http://www.pbase.com/davecq
    "I will not tolerate intolerance ... Doh!!"

"Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
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> And anyone who claims a nation knows fuck all about peace, while hailing 
> from one of the most violent nations on earth, is nothing short of an 
> idiot.

I take extreme exception to that.  Anyone who knows me will tell you that I 
am a tall idiot.

-- 
Dave (Sgt. Pepper)       Epsom, England
    Nikon D2X / D2Hs / D2H / D100 / Coolpix 5700
    My photo galleries at  http://www.pbase.com/davecq
    "I will not tolerate intolerance ... Doh!!"

Fat Sam wrote:
> BrianE wrote:
>> Fat Sam wrote:
>>> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>>>> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
>>>> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>>>>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>>>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>>>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>>>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>>>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>>>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>>>> I'm Irish.
>>>>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing*
>>>>> before.
>>>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
>>> Compared to who?
>>> Compared to the British who roamed the world weilding a big stick and
>>> shooting the fuzzy wuzzies?
>>> Compared to the Radical Muslims who are hell bent on killing
>>> everything that moves, and blowing up everything that doesn't?
>>> Compared to the Americans who are nothing short of war-mongering
>>> armageddon-merchants?
>>> Compared to the British again, who are nothing more than the
>>> Americans war-mongering sidekicks?
>>>
>>>
>> Or compared to the good old bhoys who blew up a couple of kids on a
>> Warrington street?
>> Forget Enniskillen did we?
> 
> Certainly not. As an ex-serving member of her majseties armed forces, I'm 
> hardly likely to forget things like that.
> 
>> Crazy old world..
> 
> My point wasn't that the Irish are a peace-loving nation. I know my 
> countrymen have committed some attrocities, which are shamefull to say the 
> least.
> My point was that the Irish are not the only violent nation.

If you think about it, all nations have violent histories..

French - Indo China
Germans
Japs
Spanish & Portuguese - The Americas
Dutch - Africa
All the mess that is the Balkans
The Turks
Russians
Egyptians
The Vikings with all their pillaging

Not so much a national problem, more to do with inherent behaviour 
within homo sapiens.

How did that Billy Joel song go... 'we didn't start the fire, the fires 
are burning since the world's been turning'


> And anyone who claims a nation knows fuck all about peace, while hailing 
> from one of the most violent nations on earth, is nothing short of an idiot. 
> 
> 

In fairness I think it was one of those throw away quips in the context 
of the blessing crap..
Not to be taken too seriously.

:-)

Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
> 
> "BrianE"  wrote in message 
> news:58a3keF2fs0jqU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>>>
>>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
>>>
>>
>> Oops, bit controversial there Dave. Expect some flamers..
>>
>> B (half Irish)
> 
> Don't worry Brian, I've got the flack jacket on   ;o)
> 
> D (half-pissed)
> 

Hehe..

Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
> news:n5RTh.111$V7.47@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>
>> And anyone who claims a nation knows fuck all about peace, while
>> hailing from one of the most violent nations on earth, is nothing
>> short of an idiot.
>
> I take extreme exception to that.  Anyone who knows me will tell you
> that I am a tall idiot.

Sorry. Put it down to me being Irish and aggressive ;-)

BrianE wrote:
> Fat Sam wrote:
>> BrianE wrote:
>>> Fat Sam wrote:
>>>> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>>>>> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>>>>>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>>>>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>>>>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>>>>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>>>>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>>>>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>>>>> I'm Irish.
>>>>>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish
>>>>>> Blessing* before.
>>>>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
>>>> Compared to who?
>>>> Compared to the British who roamed the world weilding a big stick
>>>> and shooting the fuzzy wuzzies?
>>>> Compared to the Radical Muslims who are hell bent on killing
>>>> everything that moves, and blowing up everything that doesn't?
>>>> Compared to the Americans who are nothing short of war-mongering
>>>> armageddon-merchants?
>>>> Compared to the British again, who are nothing more than the
>>>> Americans war-mongering sidekicks?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Or compared to the good old bhoys who blew up a couple of kids on a
>>> Warrington street?
>>> Forget Enniskillen did we?
>>
>> Certainly not. As an ex-serving member of her majseties armed
>> forces, I'm hardly likely to forget things like that.
>>
>>> Crazy old world..
>>
>> My point wasn't that the Irish are a peace-loving nation. I know my
>> countrymen have committed some attrocities, which are shamefull to
>> say the least.
>> My point was that the Irish are not the only violent nation.
>
> If you think about it, all nations have violent histories..
>
> French - Indo China
> Germans
> Japs
> Spanish & Portuguese - The Americas
> Dutch - Africa
> All the mess that is the Balkans
> The Turks
> Russians
> Egyptians
> The Vikings with all their pillaging
>
> Not so much a national problem, more to do with inherent behaviour
> within homo sapiens.
>
> How did that Billy Joel song go... 'we didn't start the fire, the
> fires are burning since the world's been turning'

Very good point.

>> And anyone who claims a nation knows fuck all about peace, while
>> hailing from one of the most violent nations on earth, is nothing
>> short of an idiot.
>
> In fairness I think it was one of those throw away quips in the
> context of the blessing crap..
> Not to be taken too seriously.

LOL. My rather less than eloquent response proved his point about the Irish 
somewhat ;-)

Fat Sam wrote:

> LOL. My rather less than eloquent response proved his point about the Irish 
> somewhat ;-) 
> 
> 

This thread has become far too civilised..

;-)

"Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
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> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
>> news:n5RTh.111$V7.47@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>>
>>> And anyone who claims a nation knows fuck all about peace, while
>>> hailing from one of the most violent nations on earth, is nothing
>>> short of an idiot.
>>
>> I take extreme exception to that.  Anyone who knows me will tell you
>> that I am a tall idiot.
>
> Sorry. Put it down to me being Irish and aggressive ;-)

Your apology most warmly accepted.  Actually I love the Irish people, and 
even more so their music ... I think I may just have some Irish blood 
flowing in me somewhere amidst the alcohol   ;o)

-- 
Dave (Sgt. Pepper)       Epsom, England
    Nikon D2X / D2Hs / D2H / D100 / Coolpix 5700
    My photo galleries at  http://www.pbase.com/davecq
    "I will not tolerate intolerance ... Doh!!"

Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
> news:zoRTh.325$VT3.271@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>>> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
>>> news:n5RTh.111$V7.47@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>>>
>>>> And anyone who claims a nation knows fuck all about peace, while
>>>> hailing from one of the most violent nations on earth, is nothing
>>>> short of an idiot.
>>>
>>> I take extreme exception to that.  Anyone who knows me will tell you
>>> that I am a tall idiot.
>>
>> Sorry. Put it down to me being Irish and aggressive ;-)
>
> Your apology most warmly accepted.  Actually I love the Irish people,
> and even more so their music ... I think I may just have some Irish
> blood flowing in me somewhere amidst the alcohol   ;o)

LOL. I reckon everybody's got a bit of Irish in them somewhere. We tend to 
get everywhere, and with a cheeky wee glint in our eyes, we interbreed 
wherever we go.

Perry Ross wrote:
> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
And "fuck off" to you.

Perry Ross wrote:
> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.

I'm Irish.
Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing* before.

"Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
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> Perry Ross wrote:
>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>
> I'm Irish.
> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing* before.
>

Maybe, it's the way he tells 'em?

"Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
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> Perry Ross wrote:
>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>
> I'm Irish.
> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing* before.


Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.

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"Dave (Sgt. Pepper)"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>
>> I'm Irish.
>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing* 
>> before.
>
>
> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.

You wouldn't would you, if a bunch of twats kept invading you.

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> And "fck off" to you.

Please don't feed the trolls.

Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
> 
> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>
>> I'm Irish.
>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing* 
>> before.
> 
> 
> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
> 

Oops, bit controversial there Dave. Expect some flamers..

B (half Irish)

Blackthorn wrote:
> "Dave (Sgt. Pepper)"  wrote in message 
> news:HYSdnSwCyPwkS4LbnZ2dnUVZ8tyqnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
>> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>> I'm Irish.
>>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing* 
>>> before.
>>
>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
> 
> You wouldn't would you, if a bunch of twats kept invading you. 
> 
> 

And when was the last time?

Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>
>> I'm Irish.
>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing*
>> before.
>
>
> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.

Compared to who?
Compared to the British who roamed the world weilding a big stick and 
shooting the fuzzy wuzzies?
Compared to the Radical Muslims who are hell bent on killing everything that 
moves, and blowing up everything that doesn't?
Compared to the Americans who are nothing short of war-mongering 
armageddon-merchants?
Compared to the British again, who are nothing more than the Americans 
war-mongering sidekicks?

Fat Sam wrote:
> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
>> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>> I'm Irish.
>>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing*
>>> before.
>>
>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
> 
> Compared to who?
> Compared to the British who roamed the world weilding a big stick and 
> shooting the fuzzy wuzzies?
> Compared to the Radical Muslims who are hell bent on killing everything that 
> moves, and blowing up everything that doesn't?
> Compared to the Americans who are nothing short of war-mongering 
> armageddon-merchants?
> Compared to the British again, who are nothing more than the Americans 
> war-mongering sidekicks? 
> 
> 

Or compared to the good old bhoys who blew up a couple of kids on a 
Warrington street?
Forget Enniskillen did we?

Crazy old world..

BrianE wrote:
> Fat Sam wrote:
>> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>>> "Fat Sam"  wrote in message
>>> news:b%OTh.1281$N94.1029@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>>>> Perry Ross wrote:
>>>>> Deep peace of the running wave to you.
>>>>> Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
>>>>> Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
>>>>> Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
>>>>> Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you.
>>>> I'm Irish.
>>>> Perhaps you can explain why I've never heard this *Irish Blessing*
>>>> before.
>>>
>>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
>>
>> Compared to who?
>> Compared to the British who roamed the world weilding a big stick and
>> shooting the fuzzy wuzzies?
>> Compared to the Radical Muslims who are hell bent on killing
>> everything that moves, and blowing up everything that doesn't?
>> Compared to the Americans who are nothing short of war-mongering
>> armageddon-merchants?
>> Compared to the British again, who are nothing more than the
>> Americans war-mongering sidekicks?
>>
>>
>
> Or compared to the good old bhoys who blew up a couple of kids on a
> Warrington street?
> Forget Enniskillen did we?

Certainly not. As an ex-serving member of her majseties armed forces, I'm 
hardly likely to forget things like that.

> Crazy old world..

My point wasn't that the Irish are a peace-loving nation. I know my 
countrymen have committed some attrocities, which are shamefull to say the 
least.
My point was that the Irish are not the only violent nation.
And anyone who claims a nation knows fuck all about peace, while hailing 
from one of the most violent nations on earth, is nothing short of an idiot.

"BrianE"  wrote in message 
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> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>>
>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
>>
>
> Oops, bit controversial there Dave. Expect some flamers..
>
> B (half Irish)

Don't worry Brian, I've got the flack jacket on   ;o)

D (half-pissed)

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"Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
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> Dave (Sgt. Pepper) wrote:
>>
>> Probably because the Irish know fuck all about peace.
>
> Would you be inclined to be peacefull towards someone who invaded your 
> country and forcibly imposed their will and customs upon you?

Absolutely not, which is why I detest what has happened to my country with 
it's uncontrolled immigration, including religious fanatics.

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"Fat Sam"  wrote in message 
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> And anyone who claims a nation knows fuck all about peace, while hailing 
> from one of the most violent nations on earth, is nothing short of an 
> idiot.

I take extreme exception to that.  Anyone who knows me will tell you that I 
am a tall idiot.

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Dave (Sgt. Pepper)       Epsom, England
    Nikon D2X / D2Hs / D2H / D100 / Coolpix 5700
    My photo galleries at  http://www.pbase.com/davecq
    "I will not tolerate intolerance ... Doh!!"