O Immaculate Virgin Mother of our Lord Jesus Christ,
Mother of Grace,
and Queen of the kingdom of thy Son,
humbly kneeling before thee,
we offer thee this country in which we live.
It once was thine.
Before it was robbed of the holy Faith
all its children were thy children,
and thou wast honoured throughout its length and breadth
as its Protectress and its Queen.
Again do we consecrate it to thee;
again do we dedicate it as thine own Dowry.
We offer our own hearts,
that their love and service
may ever grow and increase.
We offer all our brethren
those multitudes who know thee so little
or know thee not at all.
May thy prayer bring back the country's ancient faith.
May thy intercession lead us to a closer union
with thy divine Son.
We consecrate ourselves to Him through thee.
Obtain for us,
and for England thy Dowry,
every grace and blessing,
O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary!

V. Pray for us, O holy Mother of God.
R. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.

Let us pray.

O Holy Mother of God, Virgin ever blest,
O Mary Immaculate, pray for us,
intercede for us, disdain not to help us.
For we are confident and know for certain
that thou canst obtain all thou wiliest from thy Son,
our Lord Jesus Christ,
God Almighty, the King of ages,
who liveth with the Father and the Holy Ghost,
for ever and ever.

Amen.

In news:oe9v13h5p9u3ar0g3n2cipmsdm3d5bq3ej@4ax.com,
Craig Marshall  typed:
| O Immaculate Virgin Mother of our Lord Jesus Christ,
| Mother of Grace,
| and Queen of the kingdom of thy Son,
| humbly kneeling before thee,
| we offer thee this country in which we live.
| It once was thine.
| Before it was robbed of the holy Faith
| all its children were thy children,
| and thou wast honoured throughout its length and breadth
| as its Protectress and its Queen.
| Again do we consecrate it to thee;
| again do we dedicate it as thine own Dowry.
| We offer our own hearts,
| that their love and service
| may ever grow and increase.
| We offer all our brethren
| those multitudes who know thee so little
| or know thee not at all.
| May thy prayer bring back the country's ancient faith.
| May thy intercession lead us to a closer union
| with thy divine Son.
| We consecrate ourselves to Him through thee.
| Obtain for us,
| and for England thy Dowry,
| every grace and blessing,
| O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary!
|
| V. Pray for us, O holy Mother of God.
| R. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
|
| Let us pray.
|
| O Holy Mother of God, Virgin ever blest,
| O Mary Immaculate, pray for us,
| intercede for us, disdain not to help us.
| For we are confident and know for certain
| that thou canst obtain all thou wiliest from thy Son,
| our Lord Jesus Christ,
| God Almighty, the King of ages,
| who liveth with the Father and the Holy Ghost,
| for ever and ever.
|
| Amen.

Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
Mourning and weeping in this vail of tears................................

I still remember it all and it's been a while.
-- 
The Brockton Blockbuster

49 - 0

In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni 
 writes
>
>Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
>Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
>To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
>Mourning and weeping in this vail of tears................................
>
>I still remember it all and it's been a while.

Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
     in hac lacrimarum valle.
..........

I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in whatever 
language), and it's been an even longer while.

And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people like 
me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them ever again. 
 From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church is still up to 
its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them as well.

This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want 
prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_ 
religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at least 
one thing right.)

Pardon the unladylike language in this post.
-- 
Jane Sullivan

"Jane Sullivan"  wrote in message 
news:tmyHOS4FEIIGFAU8@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk...
> In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni
> And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people like 
> me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them ever again. 
> From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church is still up to its 
> abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them as well.
>
> This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want prayers 
> banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_ religion is 
> the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at least one thing 
> right.)
>

Communism is an utopian ideal humans are too flawed to ever practice, 
unfortunately.
Religions are in the same category; although not interested in them myself, 
I can see each of the mainstream faiths are quite benign when practiced by 
'good' people, it's simply a sad fact of life abusive and/or power crazed 
freaks have an innate ability to instil themselves in positions where they 
can exert most influence whilst being protected by their chosen institution.
Of course, if they can't get religious posts, they join governmentally 
bodies, or armed forces, or the police, or teach, or become scout leaders, 
or...

....damn, the rest of us are screwed really, aren't we?


Baz

Jane Sullivan wrote:
> In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni 
>  writes
>>
>> Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
>> Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
>> To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
>> Mourning and weeping in this vail of 
>> tears................................
>>
>> I still remember it all and it's been a while.
> 
> Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
> Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
> Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
> Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
>     in hac lacrimarum valle.
> .........
> 
> I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in whatever 
> language), and it's been an even longer while.
> 
> And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people like 
> me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them ever again. 
> From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church is still up to 
> its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them as well.
> 
> This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want 
> prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_ 
> religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at least 
> one thing right.)
> 
> Pardon the unladylike language in this post.


surely the place for all this is alt.superrtition.nonsense

On 2007-04-13, Craig Marshall  wrote:
> O Immaculate Virgin Mother of our Lord Jesus Christ,

When our Father, the Lord of Lies, comes into His inheritance, you
and those like you will be dragged naked and screaming in chains through
the street, scourged and defecated on, to be cast into the Pit.

I look forward to those times.


-- 
Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those
who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this
            or that problem will never be solved by science.
            [email me at huge {at} huge (dot) org <dot> uk]

On 2007-04-14, Jane Sullivan  wrote:
> In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni 
> writes
>>
>>Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
>>Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
>>To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
>>Mourning and weeping in this vail of tears................................
>>
>>I still remember it all and it's been a while.
>
> Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
> Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
> Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
> Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
>      in hac lacrimarum valle.
> .........
>
> I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in whatever 
> language), and it's been an even longer while.
>
> And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people like 
> me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them ever again. 
>  From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church is still up to 
> its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them as well.
>
> This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want 
> prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_ 
> religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at least 
> one thing right.)

Hear, hear.

>
> Pardon the unladylike language in this post.

No pardon required. Such language is entirely appropriate when discussing
the paedophile^WCatholic Church.

-- 
Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those
who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this
            or that problem will never be solved by science.
            [email me at huge {at} huge (dot) org <dot> uk]

In news:tmyHOS4FEIIGFAU8@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk,
Jane Sullivan  typed:
| In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni
|  writes
||
|| Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
|| Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
|| To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
|| Mourning and weeping in this vail of
|| tears................................
||
|| I still remember it all and it's been a while.
|
| Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
| Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
| Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
| Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
|     in hac lacrimarum valle.
| .........
|
| I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in whatever
| language), and it's been an even longer while.
|
| And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people
| like me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them
| ever again. From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church
| is still up to its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them as
| well.
|
| This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want
| prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_
| religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at
| least one thing right.)
|
| Pardon the unladylike language in this post.

If that's your view, that is your view.

I must say thought hat I am greatly impressed by the Latin you posted.  I 
wish I paid more attention when it was taught to me.  I love it when part of 
the mass, usually the "Sanctus", is said in Latin.
-- 
Count Baldoni

In news:evq77a$11s$5@apophis.demon.co.uk,
Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> typed:
| On 2007-04-13, Craig Marshall  wrote:
|| O Immaculate Virgin Mother of our Lord Jesus Christ,
|
| When our Father, the Lord of Lies, comes into His inheritance, you
| and those like you will be dragged naked and screaming in chains
| through the street, scourged and defecated on, to be cast into the
| Pit.
|
| I look forward to those times.

We will just all end up getting nuked.
-- 
Count Baldoni

In news:evq79t$11s$6@apophis.demon.co.uk,
Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> typed:
| On 2007-04-14, Jane Sullivan  wrote:
|| In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni
||  writes
|||
||| Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
||| Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
||| To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
||| Mourning and weeping in this vail of
||| tears................................
|||
||| I still remember it all and it's been a while.
||
|| Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
|| Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
|| Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
|| Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
||      in hac lacrimarum valle.
|| .........
||
|| I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in
|| whatever language), and it's been an even longer while.
||
|| And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people
|| like me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them
||  ever again. From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church
|| is still up to its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them
|| as well.
||
|| This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want
|| prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_
|| religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at
|| least one thing right.)
|
| Hear, hear.
|
||
|| Pardon the unladylike language in this post.
|
| No pardon required. Such language is entirely appropriate when
| discussing the paedophile^WCatholic Church.


You should go to the rack and then you should be excoriated for that 
statement.

Were you ever buggred ?

In the American Penal System a young white guy will almost certainly get 
buggred.

Before the brother's stuff their Johnson's up old Bournville Boulevard they 
get the victim to dip his fingers in the Vaseline.  The reason for this is 
if he complains to the guards the Vaseline will be under the victims 
fingernails.  This will imply that he committed the act voluntarily.

I would rather go to St. Patrick's than San Quentin.

-- 
Count Baldoni

Baldoni wrote:
> In news:evq79t$11s$6@apophis.demon.co.uk,
> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> typed:
> | On 2007-04-14, Jane Sullivan  wrote:
> || In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni
> ||  writes
> |||
> ||| Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
> ||| Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
> ||| To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
> ||| Mourning and weeping in this vail of
> ||| tears................................
> |||
> ||| I still remember it all and it's been a while.
> ||
> || Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
> || Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
> || Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
> || Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
> ||      in hac lacrimarum valle.
> || .........
> ||
> || I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in
> || whatever language), and it's been an even longer while.
> ||
> || And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people
> || like me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them
> ||  ever again. From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church
> || is still up to its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them
> || as well.
> ||
> || This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want
> || prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_
> || religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at
> || least one thing right.)
> |
> | Hear, hear.
> |
> ||
> || Pardon the unladylike language in this post.
> |
> | No pardon required. Such language is entirely appropriate when
> | discussing the paedophile^WCatholic Church.
> 
> 
> You should go to the rack and then you should be excoriated for that 
> statement.
> 
> Were you ever buggred ?
> 
> In the American Penal System a young white guy will almost certainly get 
> buggred.
> 
> Before the brother's stuff their Johnson's up old Bournville Boulevard they 
> get the victim to dip his fingers in the Vaseline.  The reason for this is 
> if he complains to the guards the Vaseline will be under the victims 
> fingernails.  This will imply that he committed the act voluntarily.
> 
> I would rather go to St. Patrick's than San Quentin.
> 
the the joys of crime....what crime did the choirboys commit?

In news:HeednZ0f-4IKY73bnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com,
kj  typed:
| Baldoni wrote:
|| In news:evq79t$11s$6@apophis.demon.co.uk,
|| Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> typed:
||| On 2007-04-14, Jane Sullivan 
||| wrote:
|||| In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni
||||  writes
|||||
||||| Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
||||| Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
||||| To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
||||| Mourning and weeping in this vail of
||||| tears................................
|||||
||||| I still remember it all and it's been a while.
||||
|||| Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
|||| Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
|||| Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
|||| Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
||||      in hac lacrimarum valle.
|||| .........
||||
|||| I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in
|||| whatever language), and it's been an even longer while.
||||
|||| And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people
|||| like me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them
||||  ever again. From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic
|||| church is still up to its abusive tricks, and in severe denial
|||| about them as well.
||||
|||| This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want
|||| prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_
|||| religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at
|||| least one thing right.)
|||
||| Hear, hear.
|||
||||
|||| Pardon the unladylike language in this post.
|||
||| No pardon required. Such language is entirely appropriate when
||| discussing the paedophile^WCatholic Church.
||
||
|| You should go to the rack and then you should be excoriated for that
|| statement.
||
|| Were you ever buggred ?
||
|| In the American Penal System a young white guy will almost certainly
|| get buggred.
||
|| Before the brother's stuff their Johnson's up old Bournville
|| Boulevard they get the victim to dip his fingers in the Vaseline.
|| The reason for this is if he complains to the guards the Vaseline
|| will be under the victims fingernails.  This will imply that he
|| committed the act voluntarily.
||
|| I would rather go to St. Patrick's than San Quentin.
||
| the the joys of crime....what crime did the choirboys commit?

The choirboys were corrupt members of the NYPD.
-- 
Count Baldoni

In news:oe9v13h5p9u3ar0g3n2cipmsdm3d5bq3ej@4ax.com,
Craig Marshall  typed:
| O Immaculate Virgin Mother of our Lord Jesus Christ,
| Mother of Grace,
| and Queen of the kingdom of thy Son,
| humbly kneeling before thee,
| we offer thee this country in which we live.
| It once was thine.
| Before it was robbed of the holy Faith
| all its children were thy children,
| and thou wast honoured throughout its length and breadth
| as its Protectress and its Queen.
| Again do we consecrate it to thee;
| again do we dedicate it as thine own Dowry.
| We offer our own hearts,
| that their love and service
| may ever grow and increase.
| We offer all our brethren
| those multitudes who know thee so little
| or know thee not at all.
| May thy prayer bring back the country's ancient faith.
| May thy intercession lead us to a closer union
| with thy divine Son.
| We consecrate ourselves to Him through thee.
| Obtain for us,
| and for England thy Dowry,
| every grace and blessing,
| O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary!
|
| V. Pray for us, O holy Mother of God.
| R. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
|
| Let us pray.
|
| O Holy Mother of God, Virgin ever blest,
| O Mary Immaculate, pray for us,
| intercede for us, disdain not to help us.
| For we are confident and know for certain
| that thou canst obtain all thou wiliest from thy Son,
| our Lord Jesus Christ,
| God Almighty, the King of ages,
| who liveth with the Father and the Holy Ghost,
| for ever and ever.
|
| Amen.

Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
Mourning and weeping in this vail of tears................................

I still remember it all and it's been a while.
-- 
The Brockton Blockbuster

49 - 0

In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni 
 writes
>
>Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
>Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
>To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
>Mourning and weeping in this vail of tears................................
>
>I still remember it all and it's been a while.

Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
     in hac lacrimarum valle.
..........

I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in whatever 
language), and it's been an even longer while.

And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people like 
me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them ever again. 
 From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church is still up to 
its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them as well.

This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want 
prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_ 
religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at least 
one thing right.)

Pardon the unladylike language in this post.
-- 
Jane Sullivan

"Jane Sullivan"  wrote in message 
news:tmyHOS4FEIIGFAU8@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk...
> In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni
> And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people like 
> me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them ever again. 
> From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church is still up to its 
> abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them as well.
>
> This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want prayers 
> banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_ religion is 
> the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at least one thing 
> right.)
>

Communism is an utopian ideal humans are too flawed to ever practice, 
unfortunately.
Religions are in the same category; although not interested in them myself, 
I can see each of the mainstream faiths are quite benign when practiced by 
'good' people, it's simply a sad fact of life abusive and/or power crazed 
freaks have an innate ability to instil themselves in positions where they 
can exert most influence whilst being protected by their chosen institution.
Of course, if they can't get religious posts, they join governmentally 
bodies, or armed forces, or the police, or teach, or become scout leaders, 
or...

....damn, the rest of us are screwed really, aren't we?


Baz

Jane Sullivan wrote:
> In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni 
>  writes
>>
>> Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
>> Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
>> To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
>> Mourning and weeping in this vail of 
>> tears................................
>>
>> I still remember it all and it's been a while.
> 
> Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
> Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
> Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
> Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
>     in hac lacrimarum valle.
> .........
> 
> I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in whatever 
> language), and it's been an even longer while.
> 
> And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people like 
> me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them ever again. 
> From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church is still up to 
> its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them as well.
> 
> This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want 
> prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_ 
> religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at least 
> one thing right.)
> 
> Pardon the unladylike language in this post.


surely the place for all this is alt.superrtition.nonsense

On 2007-04-13, Craig Marshall  wrote:
> O Immaculate Virgin Mother of our Lord Jesus Christ,

When our Father, the Lord of Lies, comes into His inheritance, you
and those like you will be dragged naked and screaming in chains through
the street, scourged and defecated on, to be cast into the Pit.

I look forward to those times.


-- 
Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those
who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this
            or that problem will never be solved by science.
            [email me at huge {at} huge (dot) org <dot> uk]

On 2007-04-14, Jane Sullivan  wrote:
> In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni 
> writes
>>
>>Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
>>Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
>>To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
>>Mourning and weeping in this vail of tears................................
>>
>>I still remember it all and it's been a while.
>
> Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
> Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
> Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
> Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
>      in hac lacrimarum valle.
> .........
>
> I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in whatever 
> language), and it's been an even longer while.
>
> And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people like 
> me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them ever again. 
>  From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church is still up to 
> its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them as well.
>
> This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want 
> prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_ 
> religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at least 
> one thing right.)

Hear, hear.

>
> Pardon the unladylike language in this post.

No pardon required. Such language is entirely appropriate when discussing
the paedophile^WCatholic Church.

-- 
Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those
who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this
            or that problem will never be solved by science.
            [email me at huge {at} huge (dot) org <dot> uk]

In news:tmyHOS4FEIIGFAU8@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk,
Jane Sullivan  typed:
| In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni
|  writes
||
|| Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
|| Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
|| To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
|| Mourning and weeping in this vail of
|| tears................................
||
|| I still remember it all and it's been a while.
|
| Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
| Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
| Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
| Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
|     in hac lacrimarum valle.
| .........
|
| I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in whatever
| language), and it's been an even longer while.
|
| And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people
| like me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them
| ever again. From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church
| is still up to its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them as
| well.
|
| This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want
| prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_
| religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at
| least one thing right.)
|
| Pardon the unladylike language in this post.

If that's your view, that is your view.

I must say thought hat I am greatly impressed by the Latin you posted.  I 
wish I paid more attention when it was taught to me.  I love it when part of 
the mass, usually the "Sanctus", is said in Latin.
-- 
Count Baldoni

In news:evq77a$11s$5@apophis.demon.co.uk,
Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> typed:
| On 2007-04-13, Craig Marshall  wrote:
|| O Immaculate Virgin Mother of our Lord Jesus Christ,
|
| When our Father, the Lord of Lies, comes into His inheritance, you
| and those like you will be dragged naked and screaming in chains
| through the street, scourged and defecated on, to be cast into the
| Pit.
|
| I look forward to those times.

We will just all end up getting nuked.
-- 
Count Baldoni

In news:evq79t$11s$6@apophis.demon.co.uk,
Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> typed:
| On 2007-04-14, Jane Sullivan  wrote:
|| In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni
||  writes
|||
||| Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
||| Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
||| To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
||| Mourning and weeping in this vail of
||| tears................................
|||
||| I still remember it all and it's been a while.
||
|| Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
|| Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
|| Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
|| Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
||      in hac lacrimarum valle.
|| .........
||
|| I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in
|| whatever language), and it's been an even longer while.
||
|| And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people
|| like me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them
||  ever again. From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church
|| is still up to its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them
|| as well.
||
|| This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want
|| prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_
|| religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at
|| least one thing right.)
|
| Hear, hear.
|
||
|| Pardon the unladylike language in this post.
|
| No pardon required. Such language is entirely appropriate when
| discussing the paedophile^WCatholic Church.


You should go to the rack and then you should be excoriated for that 
statement.

Were you ever buggred ?

In the American Penal System a young white guy will almost certainly get 
buggred.

Before the brother's stuff their Johnson's up old Bournville Boulevard they 
get the victim to dip his fingers in the Vaseline.  The reason for this is 
if he complains to the guards the Vaseline will be under the victims 
fingernails.  This will imply that he committed the act voluntarily.

I would rather go to St. Patrick's than San Quentin.

-- 
Count Baldoni

Baldoni wrote:
> In news:evq79t$11s$6@apophis.demon.co.uk,
> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> typed:
> | On 2007-04-14, Jane Sullivan  wrote:
> || In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni
> ||  writes
> |||
> ||| Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
> ||| Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
> ||| To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
> ||| Mourning and weeping in this vail of
> ||| tears................................
> |||
> ||| I still remember it all and it's been a while.
> ||
> || Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
> || Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
> || Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
> || Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
> ||      in hac lacrimarum valle.
> || .........
> ||
> || I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in
> || whatever language), and it's been an even longer while.
> ||
> || And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people
> || like me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them
> ||  ever again. From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church
> || is still up to its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them
> || as well.
> ||
> || This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want
> || prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_
> || religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at
> || least one thing right.)
> |
> | Hear, hear.
> |
> ||
> || Pardon the unladylike language in this post.
> |
> | No pardon required. Such language is entirely appropriate when
> | discussing the paedophile^WCatholic Church.
> 
> 
> You should go to the rack and then you should be excoriated for that 
> statement.
> 
> Were you ever buggred ?
> 
> In the American Penal System a young white guy will almost certainly get 
> buggred.
> 
> Before the brother's stuff their Johnson's up old Bournville Boulevard they 
> get the victim to dip his fingers in the Vaseline.  The reason for this is 
> if he complains to the guards the Vaseline will be under the victims 
> fingernails.  This will imply that he committed the act voluntarily.
> 
> I would rather go to St. Patrick's than San Quentin.
> 
the the joys of crime....what crime did the choirboys commit?

In news:HeednZ0f-4IKY73bnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com,
kj  typed:
| Baldoni wrote:
|| In news:evq79t$11s$6@apophis.demon.co.uk,
|| Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> typed:
||| On 2007-04-14, Jane Sullivan 
||| wrote:
|||| In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni
||||  writes
|||||
||||| Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
||||| Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
||||| To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
||||| Mourning and weeping in this vail of
||||| tears................................
|||||
||||| I still remember it all and it's been a while.
||||
|||| Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
|||| Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
|||| Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
|||| Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
||||      in hac lacrimarum valle.
|||| .........
||||
|||| I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in
|||| whatever language), and it's been an even longer while.
||||
|||| And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people
|||| like me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them
||||  ever again. From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic
|||| church is still up to its abusive tricks, and in severe denial
|||| about them as well.
||||
|||| This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want
|||| prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_
|||| religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at
|||| least one thing right.)
|||
||| Hear, hear.
|||
||||
|||| Pardon the unladylike language in this post.
|||
||| No pardon required. Such language is entirely appropriate when
||| discussing the paedophile^WCatholic Church.
||
||
|| You should go to the rack and then you should be excoriated for that
|| statement.
||
|| Were you ever buggred ?
||
|| In the American Penal System a young white guy will almost certainly
|| get buggred.
||
|| Before the brother's stuff their Johnson's up old Bournville
|| Boulevard they get the victim to dip his fingers in the Vaseline.
|| The reason for this is if he complains to the guards the Vaseline
|| will be under the victims fingernails.  This will imply that he
|| committed the act voluntarily.
||
|| I would rather go to St. Patrick's than San Quentin.
||
| the the joys of crime....what crime did the choirboys commit?

The choirboys were corrupt members of the NYPD.
-- 
Count Baldoni

In news:oe9v13h5p9u3ar0g3n2cipmsdm3d5bq3ej@4ax.com,
Craig Marshall  typed:
| O Immaculate Virgin Mother of our Lord Jesus Christ,
| Mother of Grace,
| and Queen of the kingdom of thy Son,
| humbly kneeling before thee,
| we offer thee this country in which we live.
| It once was thine.
| Before it was robbed of the holy Faith
| all its children were thy children,
| and thou wast honoured throughout its length and breadth
| as its Protectress and its Queen.
| Again do we consecrate it to thee;
| again do we dedicate it as thine own Dowry.
| We offer our own hearts,
| that their love and service
| may ever grow and increase.
| We offer all our brethren
| those multitudes who know thee so little
| or know thee not at all.
| May thy prayer bring back the country's ancient faith.
| May thy intercession lead us to a closer union
| with thy divine Son.
| We consecrate ourselves to Him through thee.
| Obtain for us,
| and for England thy Dowry,
| every grace and blessing,
| O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary!
|
| V. Pray for us, O holy Mother of God.
| R. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
|
| Let us pray.
|
| O Holy Mother of God, Virgin ever blest,
| O Mary Immaculate, pray for us,
| intercede for us, disdain not to help us.
| For we are confident and know for certain
| that thou canst obtain all thou wiliest from thy Son,
| our Lord Jesus Christ,
| God Almighty, the King of ages,
| who liveth with the Father and the Holy Ghost,
| for ever and ever.
|
| Amen.

Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
Mourning and weeping in this vail of tears................................

I still remember it all and it's been a while.
-- 
The Brockton Blockbuster

49 - 0

In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni 
 writes
>
>Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
>Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
>To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
>Mourning and weeping in this vail of tears................................
>
>I still remember it all and it's been a while.

Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
     in hac lacrimarum valle.
..........

I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in whatever 
language), and it's been an even longer while.

And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people like 
me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them ever again. 
 From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church is still up to 
its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them as well.

This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want 
prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_ 
religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at least 
one thing right.)

Pardon the unladylike language in this post.
-- 
Jane Sullivan

"Jane Sullivan"  wrote in message 
news:tmyHOS4FEIIGFAU8@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk...
> In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni
> And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people like 
> me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them ever again. 
> From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church is still up to its 
> abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them as well.
>
> This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want prayers 
> banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_ religion is 
> the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at least one thing 
> right.)
>

Communism is an utopian ideal humans are too flawed to ever practice, 
unfortunately.
Religions are in the same category; although not interested in them myself, 
I can see each of the mainstream faiths are quite benign when practiced by 
'good' people, it's simply a sad fact of life abusive and/or power crazed 
freaks have an innate ability to instil themselves in positions where they 
can exert most influence whilst being protected by their chosen institution.
Of course, if they can't get religious posts, they join governmentally 
bodies, or armed forces, or the police, or teach, or become scout leaders, 
or...

....damn, the rest of us are screwed really, aren't we?


Baz

Jane Sullivan wrote:
> In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni 
>  writes
>>
>> Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
>> Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
>> To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
>> Mourning and weeping in this vail of 
>> tears................................
>>
>> I still remember it all and it's been a while.
> 
> Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
> Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
> Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
> Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
>     in hac lacrimarum valle.
> .........
> 
> I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in whatever 
> language), and it's been an even longer while.
> 
> And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people like 
> me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them ever again. 
> From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church is still up to 
> its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them as well.
> 
> This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want 
> prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_ 
> religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at least 
> one thing right.)
> 
> Pardon the unladylike language in this post.


surely the place for all this is alt.superrtition.nonsense

On 2007-04-13, Craig Marshall  wrote:
> O Immaculate Virgin Mother of our Lord Jesus Christ,

When our Father, the Lord of Lies, comes into His inheritance, you
and those like you will be dragged naked and screaming in chains through
the street, scourged and defecated on, to be cast into the Pit.

I look forward to those times.


-- 
Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those
who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this
            or that problem will never be solved by science.
            [email me at huge {at} huge (dot) org <dot> uk]

On 2007-04-14, Jane Sullivan  wrote:
> In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni 
> writes
>>
>>Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
>>Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
>>To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
>>Mourning and weeping in this vail of tears................................
>>
>>I still remember it all and it's been a while.
>
> Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
> Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
> Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
> Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
>      in hac lacrimarum valle.
> .........
>
> I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in whatever 
> language), and it's been an even longer while.
>
> And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people like 
> me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them ever again. 
>  From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church is still up to 
> its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them as well.
>
> This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want 
> prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_ 
> religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at least 
> one thing right.)

Hear, hear.

>
> Pardon the unladylike language in this post.

No pardon required. Such language is entirely appropriate when discussing
the paedophile^WCatholic Church.

-- 
Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those
who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this
            or that problem will never be solved by science.
            [email me at huge {at} huge (dot) org <dot> uk]

In news:tmyHOS4FEIIGFAU8@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk,
Jane Sullivan  typed:
| In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni
|  writes
||
|| Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
|| Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
|| To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
|| Mourning and weeping in this vail of
|| tears................................
||
|| I still remember it all and it's been a while.
|
| Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
| Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
| Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
| Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
|     in hac lacrimarum valle.
| .........
|
| I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in whatever
| language), and it's been an even longer while.
|
| And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people
| like me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them
| ever again. From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church
| is still up to its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them as
| well.
|
| This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want
| prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_
| religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at
| least one thing right.)
|
| Pardon the unladylike language in this post.

If that's your view, that is your view.

I must say thought hat I am greatly impressed by the Latin you posted.  I 
wish I paid more attention when it was taught to me.  I love it when part of 
the mass, usually the "Sanctus", is said in Latin.
-- 
Count Baldoni

In news:evq77a$11s$5@apophis.demon.co.uk,
Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> typed:
| On 2007-04-13, Craig Marshall  wrote:
|| O Immaculate Virgin Mother of our Lord Jesus Christ,
|
| When our Father, the Lord of Lies, comes into His inheritance, you
| and those like you will be dragged naked and screaming in chains
| through the street, scourged and defecated on, to be cast into the
| Pit.
|
| I look forward to those times.

We will just all end up getting nuked.
-- 
Count Baldoni

In news:evq79t$11s$6@apophis.demon.co.uk,
Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> typed:
| On 2007-04-14, Jane Sullivan  wrote:
|| In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni
||  writes
|||
||| Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
||| Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
||| To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
||| Mourning and weeping in this vail of
||| tears................................
|||
||| I still remember it all and it's been a while.
||
|| Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
|| Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
|| Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
|| Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
||      in hac lacrimarum valle.
|| .........
||
|| I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in
|| whatever language), and it's been an even longer while.
||
|| And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people
|| like me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them
||  ever again. From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church
|| is still up to its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them
|| as well.
||
|| This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want
|| prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_
|| religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at
|| least one thing right.)
|
| Hear, hear.
|
||
|| Pardon the unladylike language in this post.
|
| No pardon required. Such language is entirely appropriate when
| discussing the paedophile^WCatholic Church.


You should go to the rack and then you should be excoriated for that 
statement.

Were you ever buggred ?

In the American Penal System a young white guy will almost certainly get 
buggred.

Before the brother's stuff their Johnson's up old Bournville Boulevard they 
get the victim to dip his fingers in the Vaseline.  The reason for this is 
if he complains to the guards the Vaseline will be under the victims 
fingernails.  This will imply that he committed the act voluntarily.

I would rather go to St. Patrick's than San Quentin.

-- 
Count Baldoni

Baldoni wrote:
> In news:evq79t$11s$6@apophis.demon.co.uk,
> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> typed:
> | On 2007-04-14, Jane Sullivan  wrote:
> || In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni
> ||  writes
> |||
> ||| Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
> ||| Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
> ||| To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
> ||| Mourning and weeping in this vail of
> ||| tears................................
> |||
> ||| I still remember it all and it's been a while.
> ||
> || Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
> || Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
> || Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
> || Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
> ||      in hac lacrimarum valle.
> || .........
> ||
> || I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in
> || whatever language), and it's been an even longer while.
> ||
> || And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people
> || like me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them
> ||  ever again. From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church
> || is still up to its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them
> || as well.
> ||
> || This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want
> || prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_
> || religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at
> || least one thing right.)
> |
> | Hear, hear.
> |
> ||
> || Pardon the unladylike language in this post.
> |
> | No pardon required. Such language is entirely appropriate when
> | discussing the paedophile^WCatholic Church.
> 
> 
> You should go to the rack and then you should be excoriated for that 
> statement.
> 
> Were you ever buggred ?
> 
> In the American Penal System a young white guy will almost certainly get 
> buggred.
> 
> Before the brother's stuff their Johnson's up old Bournville Boulevard they 
> get the victim to dip his fingers in the Vaseline.  The reason for this is 
> if he complains to the guards the Vaseline will be under the victims 
> fingernails.  This will imply that he committed the act voluntarily.
> 
> I would rather go to St. Patrick's than San Quentin.
> 
the the joys of crime....what crime did the choirboys commit?

In news:HeednZ0f-4IKY73bnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com,
kj  typed:
| Baldoni wrote:
|| In news:evq79t$11s$6@apophis.demon.co.uk,
|| Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> typed:
||| On 2007-04-14, Jane Sullivan 
||| wrote:
|||| In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni
||||  writes
|||||
||||| Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
||||| Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
||||| To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
||||| Mourning and weeping in this vail of
||||| tears................................
|||||
||||| I still remember it all and it's been a while.
||||
|||| Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
|||| Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
|||| Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
|||| Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
||||      in hac lacrimarum valle.
|||| .........
||||
|||| I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in
|||| whatever language), and it's been an even longer while.
||||
|||| And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people
|||| like me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them
||||  ever again. From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic
|||| church is still up to its abusive tricks, and in severe denial
|||| about them as well.
||||
|||| This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want
|||| prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_
|||| religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at
|||| least one thing right.)
|||
||| Hear, hear.
|||
||||
|||| Pardon the unladylike language in this post.
|||
||| No pardon required. Such language is entirely appropriate when
||| discussing the paedophile^WCatholic Church.
||
||
|| You should go to the rack and then you should be excoriated for that
|| statement.
||
|| Were you ever buggred ?
||
|| In the American Penal System a young white guy will almost certainly
|| get buggred.
||
|| Before the brother's stuff their Johnson's up old Bournville
|| Boulevard they get the victim to dip his fingers in the Vaseline.
|| The reason for this is if he complains to the guards the Vaseline
|| will be under the victims fingernails.  This will imply that he
|| committed the act voluntarily.
||
|| I would rather go to St. Patrick's than San Quentin.
||
| the the joys of crime....what crime did the choirboys commit?

The choirboys were corrupt members of the NYPD.
-- 
Count Baldoni

In news:oe9v13h5p9u3ar0g3n2cipmsdm3d5bq3ej@4ax.com,
Craig Marshall  typed:
| O Immaculate Virgin Mother of our Lord Jesus Christ,
| Mother of Grace,
| and Queen of the kingdom of thy Son,
| humbly kneeling before thee,
| we offer thee this country in which we live.
| It once was thine.
| Before it was robbed of the holy Faith
| all its children were thy children,
| and thou wast honoured throughout its length and breadth
| as its Protectress and its Queen.
| Again do we consecrate it to thee;
| again do we dedicate it as thine own Dowry.
| We offer our own hearts,
| that their love and service
| may ever grow and increase.
| We offer all our brethren
| those multitudes who know thee so little
| or know thee not at all.
| May thy prayer bring back the country's ancient faith.
| May thy intercession lead us to a closer union
| with thy divine Son.
| We consecrate ourselves to Him through thee.
| Obtain for us,
| and for England thy Dowry,
| every grace and blessing,
| O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary!
|
| V. Pray for us, O holy Mother of God.
| R. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
|
| Let us pray.
|
| O Holy Mother of God, Virgin ever blest,
| O Mary Immaculate, pray for us,
| intercede for us, disdain not to help us.
| For we are confident and know for certain
| that thou canst obtain all thou wiliest from thy Son,
| our Lord Jesus Christ,
| God Almighty, the King of ages,
| who liveth with the Father and the Holy Ghost,
| for ever and ever.
|
| Amen.

Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
Mourning and weeping in this vail of tears................................

I still remember it all and it's been a while.
-- 
The Brockton Blockbuster

49 - 0

In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni 
 writes
>
>Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
>Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
>To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
>Mourning and weeping in this vail of tears................................
>
>I still remember it all and it's been a while.

Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
     in hac lacrimarum valle.
..........

I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in whatever 
language), and it's been an even longer while.

And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people like 
me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them ever again. 
 From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church is still up to 
its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them as well.

This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want 
prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_ 
religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at least 
one thing right.)

Pardon the unladylike language in this post.
-- 
Jane Sullivan

"Jane Sullivan"  wrote in message 
news:tmyHOS4FEIIGFAU8@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk...
> In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni
> And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people like 
> me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them ever again. 
> From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church is still up to its 
> abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them as well.
>
> This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want prayers 
> banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_ religion is 
> the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at least one thing 
> right.)
>

Communism is an utopian ideal humans are too flawed to ever practice, 
unfortunately.
Religions are in the same category; although not interested in them myself, 
I can see each of the mainstream faiths are quite benign when practiced by 
'good' people, it's simply a sad fact of life abusive and/or power crazed 
freaks have an innate ability to instil themselves in positions where they 
can exert most influence whilst being protected by their chosen institution.
Of course, if they can't get religious posts, they join governmentally 
bodies, or armed forces, or the police, or teach, or become scout leaders, 
or...

....damn, the rest of us are screwed really, aren't we?


Baz

Jane Sullivan wrote:
> In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni 
>  writes
>>
>> Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
>> Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
>> To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
>> Mourning and weeping in this vail of 
>> tears................................
>>
>> I still remember it all and it's been a while.
> 
> Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
> Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
> Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
> Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
>     in hac lacrimarum valle.
> .........
> 
> I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in whatever 
> language), and it's been an even longer while.
> 
> And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people like 
> me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them ever again. 
> From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church is still up to 
> its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them as well.
> 
> This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want 
> prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_ 
> religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at least 
> one thing right.)
> 
> Pardon the unladylike language in this post.


surely the place for all this is alt.superrtition.nonsense

On 2007-04-13, Craig Marshall  wrote:
> O Immaculate Virgin Mother of our Lord Jesus Christ,

When our Father, the Lord of Lies, comes into His inheritance, you
and those like you will be dragged naked and screaming in chains through
the street, scourged and defecated on, to be cast into the Pit.

I look forward to those times.


-- 
Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those
who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this
            or that problem will never be solved by science.
            [email me at huge {at} huge (dot) org <dot> uk]

On 2007-04-14, Jane Sullivan  wrote:
> In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni 
> writes
>>
>>Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
>>Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
>>To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
>>Mourning and weeping in this vail of tears................................
>>
>>I still remember it all and it's been a while.
>
> Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
> Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
> Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
> Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
>      in hac lacrimarum valle.
> .........
>
> I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in whatever 
> language), and it's been an even longer while.
>
> And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people like 
> me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them ever again. 
>  From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church is still up to 
> its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them as well.
>
> This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want 
> prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_ 
> religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at least 
> one thing right.)

Hear, hear.

>
> Pardon the unladylike language in this post.

No pardon required. Such language is entirely appropriate when discussing
the paedophile^WCatholic Church.

-- 
Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those
who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this
            or that problem will never be solved by science.
            [email me at huge {at} huge (dot) org <dot> uk]

In news:tmyHOS4FEIIGFAU8@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk,
Jane Sullivan  typed:
| In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni
|  writes
||
|| Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
|| Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
|| To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
|| Mourning and weeping in this vail of
|| tears................................
||
|| I still remember it all and it's been a while.
|
| Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
| Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
| Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
| Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
|     in hac lacrimarum valle.
| .........
|
| I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in whatever
| language), and it's been an even longer while.
|
| And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people
| like me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them
| ever again. From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church
| is still up to its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them as
| well.
|
| This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want
| prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_
| religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at
| least one thing right.)
|
| Pardon the unladylike language in this post.

If that's your view, that is your view.

I must say thought hat I am greatly impressed by the Latin you posted.  I 
wish I paid more attention when it was taught to me.  I love it when part of 
the mass, usually the "Sanctus", is said in Latin.
-- 
Count Baldoni

In news:evq77a$11s$5@apophis.demon.co.uk,
Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> typed:
| On 2007-04-13, Craig Marshall  wrote:
|| O Immaculate Virgin Mother of our Lord Jesus Christ,
|
| When our Father, the Lord of Lies, comes into His inheritance, you
| and those like you will be dragged naked and screaming in chains
| through the street, scourged and defecated on, to be cast into the
| Pit.
|
| I look forward to those times.

We will just all end up getting nuked.
-- 
Count Baldoni

In news:evq79t$11s$6@apophis.demon.co.uk,
Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> typed:
| On 2007-04-14, Jane Sullivan  wrote:
|| In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni
||  writes
|||
||| Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
||| Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
||| To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
||| Mourning and weeping in this vail of
||| tears................................
|||
||| I still remember it all and it's been a while.
||
|| Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
|| Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
|| Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
|| Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
||      in hac lacrimarum valle.
|| .........
||
|| I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in
|| whatever language), and it's been an even longer while.
||
|| And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people
|| like me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them
||  ever again. From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church
|| is still up to its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them
|| as well.
||
|| This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want
|| prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_
|| religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at
|| least one thing right.)
|
| Hear, hear.
|
||
|| Pardon the unladylike language in this post.
|
| No pardon required. Such language is entirely appropriate when
| discussing the paedophile^WCatholic Church.


You should go to the rack and then you should be excoriated for that 
statement.

Were you ever buggred ?

In the American Penal System a young white guy will almost certainly get 
buggred.

Before the brother's stuff their Johnson's up old Bournville Boulevard they 
get the victim to dip his fingers in the Vaseline.  The reason for this is 
if he complains to the guards the Vaseline will be under the victims 
fingernails.  This will imply that he committed the act voluntarily.

I would rather go to St. Patrick's than San Quentin.

-- 
Count Baldoni

Baldoni wrote:
> In news:evq79t$11s$6@apophis.demon.co.uk,
> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> typed:
> | On 2007-04-14, Jane Sullivan  wrote:
> || In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni
> ||  writes
> |||
> ||| Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
> ||| Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
> ||| To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
> ||| Mourning and weeping in this vail of
> ||| tears................................
> |||
> ||| I still remember it all and it's been a while.
> ||
> || Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
> || Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
> || Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
> || Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
> ||      in hac lacrimarum valle.
> || .........
> ||
> || I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in
> || whatever language), and it's been an even longer while.
> ||
> || And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people
> || like me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them
> ||  ever again. From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church
> || is still up to its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them
> || as well.
> ||
> || This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want
> || prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_
> || religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at
> || least one thing right.)
> |
> | Hear, hear.
> |
> ||
> || Pardon the unladylike language in this post.
> |
> | No pardon required. Such language is entirely appropriate when
> | discussing the paedophile^WCatholic Church.
> 
> 
> You should go to the rack and then you should be excoriated for that 
> statement.
> 
> Were you ever buggred ?
> 
> In the American Penal System a young white guy will almost certainly get 
> buggred.
> 
> Before the brother's stuff their Johnson's up old Bournville Boulevard they 
> get the victim to dip his fingers in the Vaseline.  The reason for this is 
> if he complains to the guards the Vaseline will be under the victims 
> fingernails.  This will imply that he committed the act voluntarily.
> 
> I would rather go to St. Patrick's than San Quentin.
> 
the the joys of crime....what crime did the choirboys commit?

In news:HeednZ0f-4IKY73bnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com,
kj  typed:
| Baldoni wrote:
|| In news:evq79t$11s$6@apophis.demon.co.uk,
|| Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> typed:
||| On 2007-04-14, Jane Sullivan 
||| wrote:
|||| In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni
||||  writes
|||||
||||| Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
||||| Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
||||| To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
||||| Mourning and weeping in this vail of
||||| tears................................
|||||
||||| I still remember it all and it's been a while.
||||
|||| Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
|||| Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
|||| Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
|||| Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
||||      in hac lacrimarum valle.
|||| .........
||||
|||| I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in
|||| whatever language), and it's been an even longer while.
||||
|||| And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people
|||| like me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them
||||  ever again. From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic
|||| church is still up to its abusive tricks, and in severe denial
|||| about them as well.
||||
|||| This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want
|||| prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_
|||| religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at
|||| least one thing right.)
|||
||| Hear, hear.
|||
||||
|||| Pardon the unladylike language in this post.
|||
||| No pardon required. Such language is entirely appropriate when
||| discussing the paedophile^WCatholic Church.
||
||
|| You should go to the rack and then you should be excoriated for that
|| statement.
||
|| Were you ever buggred ?
||
|| In the American Penal System a young white guy will almost certainly
|| get buggred.
||
|| Before the brother's stuff their Johnson's up old Bournville
|| Boulevard they get the victim to dip his fingers in the Vaseline.
|| The reason for this is if he complains to the guards the Vaseline
|| will be under the victims fingernails.  This will imply that he
|| committed the act voluntarily.
||
|| I would rather go to St. Patrick's than San Quentin.
||
| the the joys of crime....what crime did the choirboys commit?

The choirboys were corrupt members of the NYPD.
-- 
Count Baldoni

In news:oe9v13h5p9u3ar0g3n2cipmsdm3d5bq3ej@4ax.com,
Craig Marshall  typed:
| O Immaculate Virgin Mother of our Lord Jesus Christ,
| Mother of Grace,
| and Queen of the kingdom of thy Son,
| humbly kneeling before thee,
| we offer thee this country in which we live.
| It once was thine.
| Before it was robbed of the holy Faith
| all its children were thy children,
| and thou wast honoured throughout its length and breadth
| as its Protectress and its Queen.
| Again do we consecrate it to thee;
| again do we dedicate it as thine own Dowry.
| We offer our own hearts,
| that their love and service
| may ever grow and increase.
| We offer all our brethren
| those multitudes who know thee so little
| or know thee not at all.
| May thy prayer bring back the country's ancient faith.
| May thy intercession lead us to a closer union
| with thy divine Son.
| We consecrate ourselves to Him through thee.
| Obtain for us,
| and for England thy Dowry,
| every grace and blessing,
| O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary!
|
| V. Pray for us, O holy Mother of God.
| R. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
|
| Let us pray.
|
| O Holy Mother of God, Virgin ever blest,
| O Mary Immaculate, pray for us,
| intercede for us, disdain not to help us.
| For we are confident and know for certain
| that thou canst obtain all thou wiliest from thy Son,
| our Lord Jesus Christ,
| God Almighty, the King of ages,
| who liveth with the Father and the Holy Ghost,
| for ever and ever.
|
| Amen.

Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
Mourning and weeping in this vail of tears................................

I still remember it all and it's been a while.
-- 
The Brockton Blockbuster

49 - 0

In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni 
 writes
>
>Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
>Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
>To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
>Mourning and weeping in this vail of tears................................
>
>I still remember it all and it's been a while.

Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
     in hac lacrimarum valle.
..........

I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in whatever 
language), and it's been an even longer while.

And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people like 
me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them ever again. 
 From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church is still up to 
its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them as well.

This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want 
prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_ 
religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at least 
one thing right.)

Pardon the unladylike language in this post.
-- 
Jane Sullivan

"Jane Sullivan"  wrote in message 
news:tmyHOS4FEIIGFAU8@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk...
> In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni
> And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people like 
> me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them ever again. 
> From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church is still up to its 
> abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them as well.
>
> This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want prayers 
> banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_ religion is 
> the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at least one thing 
> right.)
>

Communism is an utopian ideal humans are too flawed to ever practice, 
unfortunately.
Religions are in the same category; although not interested in them myself, 
I can see each of the mainstream faiths are quite benign when practiced by 
'good' people, it's simply a sad fact of life abusive and/or power crazed 
freaks have an innate ability to instil themselves in positions where they 
can exert most influence whilst being protected by their chosen institution.
Of course, if they can't get religious posts, they join governmentally 
bodies, or armed forces, or the police, or teach, or become scout leaders, 
or...

....damn, the rest of us are screwed really, aren't we?


Baz

Jane Sullivan wrote:
> In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni 
>  writes
>>
>> Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
>> Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
>> To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
>> Mourning and weeping in this vail of 
>> tears................................
>>
>> I still remember it all and it's been a while.
> 
> Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
> Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
> Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
> Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
>     in hac lacrimarum valle.
> .........
> 
> I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in whatever 
> language), and it's been an even longer while.
> 
> And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people like 
> me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them ever again. 
> From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church is still up to 
> its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them as well.
> 
> This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want 
> prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_ 
> religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at least 
> one thing right.)
> 
> Pardon the unladylike language in this post.


surely the place for all this is alt.superrtition.nonsense

On 2007-04-13, Craig Marshall  wrote:
> O Immaculate Virgin Mother of our Lord Jesus Christ,

When our Father, the Lord of Lies, comes into His inheritance, you
and those like you will be dragged naked and screaming in chains through
the street, scourged and defecated on, to be cast into the Pit.

I look forward to those times.


-- 
Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those
who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this
            or that problem will never be solved by science.
            [email me at huge {at} huge (dot) org <dot> uk]

On 2007-04-14, Jane Sullivan  wrote:
> In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni 
> writes
>>
>>Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
>>Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
>>To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
>>Mourning and weeping in this vail of tears................................
>>
>>I still remember it all and it's been a while.
>
> Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
> Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
> Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
> Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
>      in hac lacrimarum valle.
> .........
>
> I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in whatever 
> language), and it's been an even longer while.
>
> And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people like 
> me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them ever again. 
>  From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church is still up to 
> its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them as well.
>
> This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want 
> prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_ 
> religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at least 
> one thing right.)

Hear, hear.

>
> Pardon the unladylike language in this post.

No pardon required. Such language is entirely appropriate when discussing
the paedophile^WCatholic Church.

-- 
Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those
who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this
            or that problem will never be solved by science.
            [email me at huge {at} huge (dot) org <dot> uk]

In news:tmyHOS4FEIIGFAU8@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk,
Jane Sullivan  typed:
| In message <4620145e$1$9290$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, Baldoni
|  writes
||
|| Hail Holy Queen Mother of Mercy
|| Hail Our Life or sweetness and our hope
|| To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve
|| Mourning and weeping in this vail of
|| tears................................
||
|| I still remember it all and it's been a while.
|
| Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
| Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
| Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
| Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes,
|     in hac lacrimarum valle.
| .........
|
| I still remember it in Latin (and I wish I could forget it in whatever
| language), and it's been an even longer while.
|
| And I still remember what the fucking Catholic church did to people
| like me in our youth, which is why I want nothing to do with them
| ever again. From what I read in the newspapers, the catholic church
| is still up to its abusive tricks, and in severe denial about them as
| well.
|
| This may answer Tony Bald one's implied question about why I want
| prayers banned from these newsgroups. As far as I'm concerned _all_
| religion is the same, and should be banned. (The communists got at
| least one thing right.)
|
| Pardon the unladylike language in this post.

If that's your view, that is your view.

I must say thought hat I am greatly impressed by the Latin you posted.  I 
wish I paid more attention when it was taught to me.  I love it when part of 
the mass, usually the "Sanctus", is said in Latin.
-- 
Count Baldoni

In news:evq77a$11s$5@apophis.demon.co.uk,
Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> typed:
| On 2007-04-13, Craig Marshall  wrote:
|| O Immaculate Virgin Mother of our Lord Jesus Christ,
|
| Wh