http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=176336

quote TTP:

"Just got the *preview* code and spent some time with it in the
comfort of my sofa and I must say the frame rate is all over the
place.

Didn't give me this impression at all at E3, but here, in a more
intimate environment, me and him alone, the times where it stays at
30fps are so few they don't even matter.

Factor 5 either screwed big time or this version is as old as baby
Gesus"

unquote



once again, the choice that Sony made to use a lowend Nvidia GPU in
PS3, the RSX, which is based on a DOWNGRADED NV47 / G70 ~ GF 7800 or
G71 ~ GF 7900 with miserable fillrate performance ( 2 Gpixels/s with
4x anti-aliasing) combined with low graphics memory bandwidth (22.4 GB/
sec to GGR3) combined with low triangle setup rate performance (about
250M vs 500M on X360) results in PS3 games with shitty framerates when
overtaxed by 1080p resolution and too much graphics detail.

it's bad enough that console GPUs are set in stone for the 5-6 year
life of the system, it's worse when a GPU *starts* out being lowend
shit at the *beginning* of the console's lifecycle.

"AirRaid"  wrote in message 
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> http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=176336
>
> quote TTP:
>
> "Just got the *preview* code and spent some time with it in the
> comfort of my sofa and I must say the frame rate is all over the
> place.
>
> Didn't give me this impression at all at E3, but here, in a more
> intimate environment, me and him alone, the times where it stays at
> 30fps are so few they don't even matter.
>
> Factor 5 either screwed big time or this version is as old as baby
> Gesus"
>
> unquote
>
>
>
> once again, the choice that Sony made to use a lowend Nvidia GPU in
> PS3, the RSX, which is based on a DOWNGRADED NV47 / G70 ~ GF 7800 or
> G71 ~ GF 7900 with miserable fillrate performance ( 2 Gpixels/s with
> 4x anti-aliasing) combined with low graphics memory bandwidth (22.4 GB/
> sec to GGR3) combined with low triangle setup rate performance (about
> 250M vs 500M on X360) results in PS3 games with shitty framerates when
> overtaxed by 1080p resolution and too much graphics detail.
>
> it's bad enough that console GPUs are set in stone for the 5-6 year
> life of the system, it's worse when a GPU *starts* out being lowend
> shit at the *beginning* of the console's lifecycle.
>

I call bullshit on this one.

Further down someone states:

"There's already reviews and you're looking at preview code?

*confused* (not that you have preview code, but that they gave you that when 
apparently there is a reviewable build out there)

EDIT: What res are you playing in?"

And they guy replies:

Beats me dude. Game is out in September in Europe (where I live) and Sony is 
sending "preview codes" for now. This can very well be intended as a preview 
code just because it lack localizations, the game itself actually being the 
gold code that will ship in US in a matter of days. This wouldn't be a 
first.

I was playing at 720p.
------------------------------

I'm interested in the reviews its getting so far....

Gamepro 3.8/5
Play Magazine 9/10

I'd say not bad....  time will really tell i guess as seen below...

Well here's some interesting news: Lair Delayed!!! 
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/810/810027p1.html

So maybe they do have a frame rate issue? Who knows. But we do know it didnt 
look bad at E3. And i dont recall any bad impressions from there.

"Brenden D. Chase"  wrote in message 
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> "AirRaid"  wrote in message 
> news:1186011830.521505.303350@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

>
> I call bullshit on this one.

I know Air Raid is a desperate troll but quoting other trolls from forums as 
fact? That is all time desperate. Nothing has been said before now about 
questionable frame rate. Poor Air Raid is scared shitless because Sony is 
starting to turn the corner in this gen and he feels like he is losing 
complete control so he has to post fanboy fodder to make himself feel 
better. It helps him sleep at night.

"boodybandit"  wrote in message 
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> "Brenden D. Chase"  wrote in message 
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>>
>> "AirRaid"  wrote in message 
>> news:1186011830.521505.303350@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>>
>> I call bullshit on this one.
>
> I know Air Raid is a desperate troll but quoting other trolls from forums 
> as fact? That is all time desperate. Nothing has been said before now 
> about questionable frame rate. Poor Air Raid is scared shitless because 
> Sony is starting to turn the corner in this gen and he feels like he is 
> losing complete control so he has to post fanboy fodder to make himself 
> feel better. It helps him sleep at night.
>

I gotta admit, it's pretty funny to watch them squirm though

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>> "Brenden D. Chase"  wrote in message 
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>>> "AirRaid"  wrote in message 
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>>
>>>
>>> I call bullshit on this one.
>>
>> I know Air Raid is a desperate troll but quoting other trolls from forums 
>> as fact? That is all time desperate. Nothing has been said before now 
>> about questionable frame rate. Poor Air Raid is scared shitless because 
>> Sony is starting to turn the corner in this gen and he feels like he is 
>> losing complete control so he has to post fanboy fodder to make himself 
>> feel better. It helps him sleep at night.
>>
>
> I gotta admit, it's pretty funny to watch them squirm though


Him, Jonah ans Swammy are like crack addicts looking for negative news on 
Sony. If they don't find something every day, no matter how minusclue, they 
practically have a nervous breakdown. They remind me of that little weasel 
in the old Foghorn Leghorn cartoons when I was a kid. You know the little 
rodent that chases after chickens saying yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah and 
shaking like he is having a seizure while drooling buckets.

No profanity please.


"AirRaid"  wrote in message 
news:1186011830.521505.303350@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=176336
>
> quote TTP:
>
> "Just got the *preview* code and spent some time with it in the
> comfort of my sofa and I must say the frame rate is all over the
> place.
>
> Didn't give me this impression at all at E3, but here, in a more
> intimate environment, me and him alone, the times where it stays at
> 30fps are so few they don't even matter.
>
> Factor 5 either screwed big time or this version is as old as baby
> Gesus"
>
> unquote
>
>
>
> once again, the choice that Sony made to use a lowend Nvidia GPU in
> PS3, the RSX, which is based on a DOWNGRADED NV47 / G70 ~ GF 7800 or
> G71 ~ GF 7900 with miserable fillrate performance ( 2 Gpixels/s with
> 4x anti-aliasing) combined with low graphics memory bandwidth (22.4 GB/
> sec to GGR3) combined with low triangle setup rate performance (about
> 250M vs 500M on X360) results in PS3 games with shitty framerates when
> overtaxed by 1080p resolution and too much graphics detail.
>
> it's bad enough that console GPUs are set in stone for the 5-6 year
> life of the system, it's worse when a GPU *starts* out being lowend
> shit at the *beginning* of the console's lifecycle.
>

On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:17:45 GMT, "Timbo"  wrote:

>No profanity please.
>


Why the fuck not? :)