Hi,

I've created a page that lets you search Play.com from your mobile
phone, so you can check on-line prices, stock, and delivery when
you're out shopping. Play's own website breaks on most mobile phones.

Great way to save loads, because sometimes Play.com have stuff at huge
discounts compared to the hight street, so you can find out how much
cheaper the online price is and decide if it's worth waiting.

See http://cms.da.gp for more info or simply enter the URL 'da.gp'
into your mobile phone's browser (enter simply by pressing keys
'32147' on a standard keypad - totally unforgettable from the first
time you use it!).

Kevin

Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Tue, 12 Aug
2008 17:47:03 -0700 (PDT), sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do
uk.games.video.handheld, yawatina tan reek esk Kevin 
fornis do marikano es bono tan el:

>I've created a page that lets you search Play.com from your mobile
>phone,

I've been doing this for almost two years just by using Play's own site. Or,
even better, Gamestracker.


deKay
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On Aug 13, 9:37 am, deKay  wrote:
>
> >I've created a page that lets you search Play.com from your mobile
> >phone,
>
> I've been doing this for almost two years just by using Play's own site. Or,
> even better, Gamestracker.

If Play.com and Gamestracker works well on your phone, then that's
great for you. But it doesn't work well on many phones. My K810i is a
fairly recent and typically specified phone, and it totally breaks on
that. Forget a V3 RAZR or 6230i or whatever.

With mobile web, you always have to think beyond your own personal
experience, because there are as many user-experiences as there are
Phone x Firmware x Network permutations.

Other people have said that they find G-Portal useful, particularly
for searching Play.com. (see http://cms.da.gp or just enter URL
'da.gp' in your phone - keys 32147 on a standard keypad)

Kevin

Kevin wrote:
> On Aug 13, 9:37 am, deKay  wrote:
>>> I've created a page that lets you search Play.com from your mobile
>>> phone,
>> I've been doing this for almost two years just by using Play's own site. Or,
>> even better, Gamestracker.
> 
> If Play.com and Gamestracker works well on your phone, then that's
> great for you. But it doesn't work well on many phones. My K810i is a
> fairly recent and typically specified phone, and it totally breaks on
> that. Forget a V3 RAZR or 6230i or whatever.
> 
> With mobile web, you always have to think beyond your own personal
> experience, because there are as many user-experiences as there are
> Phone x Firmware x Network permutations.
<snip>

I have a K810i, have you tried the free Opera Mini web browser?  It's 
superb, and I've not encountered any problems using it.  I've just 
checked Play and Gamestracker and they're both fine with it.

-- 
[ste]
gamertag: stefcha

[ste parker] wrote:

> Kevin wrote:
> >On Aug 13, 9:37 am, deKay  wrote:
> > > > I've created a page that lets you search Play.com from your
> > > > mobile phone,
> > > I've been doing this for almost two years just by using Play's
> > > own site. Or, even better, Gamestracker.
> > 
> > If Play.com and Gamestracker works well on your phone, then that's
> > great for you. But it doesn't work well on many phones. My K810i is
> > a fairly recent and typically specified phone, and it totally
> > breaks on that. Forget a V3 RAZR or 6230i or whatever.
> > 
> > With mobile web, you always have to think beyond your own personal
> > experience, because there are as many user-experiences as there are
> > Phone x Firmware x Network permutations.
> <snip>
> 
> I have a K810i, have you tried the free Opera Mini web browser?  It's
> superb, and I've not encountered any problems using it.  I've just
> checked Play and Gamestracker and they're both fine with it.

+1. Opera Mini works flawlessly on my Motorola K1 as it did on my
previous phones.

-- 
qt

Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Thu, 14 Aug
2008 09:29:06 +0000 (UTC), sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do
uk.games.video.handheld, yawatina tan reek esk "QT"
 fornis do marikano es bono tan el:

>+1. Opera Mini works flawlessly on my Motorola K1

You know, I always thought you were a bloke.  Well, you live and learn.

deKay
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deKay wrote:

> Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Thu,
> 14 Aug 2008 09:29:06 +0000 (UTC), sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof
> do uk.games.video.handheld, yawatina tan reek esk "QT"
>  fornis do marikano es bono tan
> el:
> 
> > +1. Opera Mini works flawlessly on my Motorola K1
> 
> You know, I always thought you were a bloke.  Well, you live and
> learn.
> 
> deKay

What, blokes in the UK are forbidden to use clam-shell phones? I'm glad
to be living elsewhere then ;)

-- 
qt

Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Thu, 14 Aug
2008 09:46:39 +0000 (UTC), sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do
uk.games.video.handheld, yawatina tan reek esk "QT"
 fornis do marikano es bono tan el:

>> > +1. Opera Mini works flawlessly on my Motorola K1
>> 
>> You know, I always thought you were a bloke.  Well, you live and
>> learn.
>
>What, blokes in the UK are forbidden to use clam-shell phones? I'm glad
>to be living elsewhere then ;)

K1s (and clamshell Motorolas in general) are exclusively for Girls 'n' Gays in
the UK. I think it says so on the box.

I mean, if you're a girl, or a gay, then good for you and all. :)

deKay
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deKay wrote:

> Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Thu,
> 14 Aug 2008 09:46:39 +0000 (UTC), sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof
> do uk.games.video.handheld, yawatina tan reek esk "QT"
>  fornis do marikano es bono tan
> el:
> 
> 
> K1s (and clamshell Motorolas in general) are exclusively for Girls
> 'n' Gays in the UK. I think it says so on the box.
> 
> 
> deKay

I'd never expect you to say something this stupid. Well, you live and
learn.

-- 

qt

Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Thu, 14 Aug
2008 10:22:09 +0000 (UTC), sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do
uk.games.video.handheld, yawatina tan reek esk "QT"
 fornis do marikano es bono tan el:

>> K1s (and clamshell Motorolas in general) are exclusively for Girls
>> 'n' Gays in the UK. I think it says so on the box.
>
>I'd never expect you to say something this stupid. Well, you live and
>learn.

You appear to have missed the smiley.

deKay
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QT wrote:
> deKay wrote:
> 
>> Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Thu,
>> 14 Aug 2008 09:46:39 +0000 (UTC), sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof
>> do uk.games.video.handheld, yawatina tan reek esk "QT"
>>  fornis do marikano es bono tan
>> el:
>>
>>
>> K1s (and clamshell Motorolas in general) are exclusively for Girls
>> 'n' Gays in the UK. I think it says so on the box.
>>
>>
>> deKay
> 
> I'd never expect you to say something this stupid. Well, you live and
> learn.

I think you'll find he was winding you up, the smiley faces should have 
been a clue. Still, if you are going to get all defensive perhaps he was 
right :-)  ....... <- smiley.

-- 
James Luff
Gamertag: Lufferov
blog: http://lufferov.blogspot.com
"There are 10 types of people in the world:
Those that understand binary, and those that don't."

Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Thu, 14 Aug
2008 14:44:21 +0100, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do
uk.games.video.handheld, yawatina tan reek esk James Luff 
fornis do marikano es bono tan el:

>I think you'll find he was winding you up, the smiley faces should have 
>been a clue. Still, if you are going to get all defensive perhaps he was 
>right :-)  ....... <- smiley.

No, they really do say on the box "Not for sale to heterosexual males".

deKay
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On 14 Aug, 10:31, "[ste parker]"  wrote:
> Kevin wrote:
> > On Aug 13, 9:37 am, deKay  wrote:
> >>> I've created a page that lets you search Play.com from your mobile
> >>> phone,
> >> I've been doing this for almost two years just by using Play's own site. Or,
> >> even better, Gamestracker.
>
> > If Play.com and Gamestracker works well on your phone, then that's
> > great for you. But it doesn't work well on many phones. My K810i is a
> > fairly recent and typically specified phone, and it totally breaks on
> > that. Forget a V3 RAZR or 6230i or whatever.
>
>
> I have a K810i, have you tried the free Opera Mini web browser?  It's
> superb, and I've not encountered any problems using it.  I've just
> checked Play and Gamestracker and they're both fine with it.

Yup, Opera Mini is a fantastic piece of software - I've also used it
to access full web sites (even coped admirably with paying through
eBay/PayPal).

However, it's not mainstream - only a relatively small number of
people will use this way of accessing the web. One of the problems
I've encountered with J2ME is that a lot of KVMs aren't configured for
network access - browsers and KVMs seem to have their own separate
settings, so you quite often get the problem that a user can download
the app, but it wont work for HTTP. I expect this will improve, but
don't count on network operators not throwing a spanner in the works!
They see Opera Mini as taking away their walled gardens (or electric
fences, as they've become!)

Kevin

Kevin wrote:
> 
> Yup, Opera Mini is a fantastic piece of software - I've also used it
> to access full web sites (even coped admirably with paying through
> eBay/PayPal).
> 
> However, it's not mainstream - only a relatively small number of
> people will use this way of accessing the web. One of the problems
> I've encountered with J2ME is that a lot of KVMs aren't configured for
> network access - browsers and KVMs seem to have their own separate
> settings, so you quite often get the problem that a user can download
> the app, but it wont work for HTTP. I expect this will improve, but
> don't count on network operators not throwing a spanner in the works!
> They see Opera Mini as taking away their walled gardens (or electric
> fences, as they've become!)
> 

KVM?

-- 
[ste]
gamertag: stefcha

[ste parker] wrote:
> Kevin wrote:
>>
>> Yup, Opera Mini is a fantastic piece of software - I've also used it
>> to access full web sites (even coped admirably with paying through
>> eBay/PayPal).
>>
>> However, it's not mainstream - only a relatively small number of
>> people will use this way of accessing the web. One of the problems
>> I've encountered with J2ME is that a lot of KVMs aren't configured for
>> network access - browsers and KVMs seem to have their own separate
>> settings, so you quite often get the problem that a user can download
>> the app, but it wont work for HTTP. I expect this will improve, but
>> don't count on network operators not throwing a spanner in the works!
>> They see Opera Mini as taking away their walled gardens (or electric
>> fences, as they've become!)
>>
> 
> KVM?
> 

I think he means JVM :)

deKay
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On 14 Aug, 17:38, deKay <an...@deleteme.lofi-
gaming.nospam.org.uk.invalid> wrote:
> [ste parker] wrote:
> > Kevin wrote:
>
> >> One of the problems I've encountered with J2ME is that a lot of KVMs aren't configured for
> >> network access - browsers and KVMs seem to have their own separate
> >> settings, so you quite often get the problem that a user can download
> >> the app, but it wont work for HTTP.
>
> > KVM?
>
> I think he means JVM :)

No, I mean KVM; the Kilobyte Virtual Machine which is the reference
implementation of a JVM for embedded applications (e.g. phones).
Still, it is a JVM of sorts, just somewhat cut down (for example, it
requires pre-verification of bytecode, hence to reflection or dynamic
class-loading).

Kevin

Kevin wrote:
> On 14 Aug, 17:38, deKay <an...@deleteme.lofi-
> gaming.nospam.org.uk.invalid> wrote:
>> [ste parker] wrote:
>>> Kevin wrote:
>>>> One of the problems I've encountered with J2ME is that a lot of KVMs aren't configured for
>>>> network access - browsers and KVMs seem to have their own separate
>>>> settings, so you quite often get the problem that a user can download
>>>> the app, but it wont work for HTTP.
>>> KVM?
>> I think he means JVM :)
> 
> No, I mean KVM; the Kilobyte Virtual Machine which is the reference
> implementation of a JVM for embedded applications (e.g. phones).
> Still, it is a JVM of sorts, just somewhat cut down (for example, it
> requires pre-verification of bytecode, hence to reflection or dynamic
> class-loading).
> 

Cheers for the explanation!

-- 
[ste]

"[ste parker]"  wrote in message 
news:6gjdnqFfv5n0U1@mid.individual.net...
> Kevin wrote:
>> On 14 Aug, 17:38, deKay <an...@deleteme.lofi-
>> gaming.nospam.org.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>> [ste parker] wrote:
>>>> Kevin wrote:
>>>>> One of the problems I've encountered with J2ME is that a lot of KVMs 
>>>>> aren't configured for
>>>>> network access - browsers and KVMs seem to have their own separate
>>>>> settings, so you quite often get the problem that a user can download
>>>>> the app, but it wont work for HTTP.
>>>> KVM?
>>> I think he means JVM :)
>>
>> No, I mean KVM; the Kilobyte Virtual Machine which is the reference
>> implementation of a JVM for embedded applications (e.g. phones).
>> Still, it is a JVM of sorts, just somewhat cut down (for example, it
>> requires pre-verification of bytecode, hence to reflection or dynamic
>> class-loading).
>>
>
> Cheers for the explanation!
>

If only to have seen deKay put in his place :D

Shak

Shak wrote:
> "[ste parker]"  wrote in message 
> news:6gjdnqFfv5n0U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Kevin wrote:
>>> On 14 Aug, 17:38, deKay <an...@deleteme.lofi-
>>> gaming.nospam.org.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>>> [ste parker] wrote:
>>>>> Kevin wrote:
>>>>>> One of the problems I've encountered with J2ME is that a lot of 
>>>>>> KVMs aren't configured for
>>>>>> network access - browsers and KVMs seem to have their own separate
>>>>>> settings, so you quite often get the problem that a user can download
>>>>>> the app, but it wont work for HTTP.
>>>>> KVM?
>>>> I think he means JVM :)
>>>
>>> No, I mean KVM; the Kilobyte Virtual Machine which is the reference
>>> implementation of a JVM for embedded applications (e.g. phones).
>>> Still, it is a JVM of sorts, just somewhat cut down (for example, it
>>> requires pre-verification of bytecode, hence to reflection or dynamic
>>> class-loading).
>>>
>>
>> Cheers for the explanation!
>>
> 
> If only to have seen deKay put in his place :D

I'm happy to be corrected.  Mistress.

deKay
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