Finally got myself a PS2, to get hold of its few must haves that kept 
nagging at me from the shop shelves....MGS3, GT4, Pro Evo 5 etc...but mostly 
for the upcoming Shadow Of The Colossus and joint re-release of ICO, and so 
I wanted to know what the PS2's UK equivalent [and busiest] newsgroup to 
this and the UK Xbox group is??? I can't seem to find one, but I have NTL 
news service and it is *poor* - is there one?

I'm trying to find help on connecting to its network for its [small few] 
network enabled games....is there any multi-format owning peeps here who use 
it, especially with NTL.

Slitheen wrote:
> Finally got myself a PS2, to get hold of its few must haves that kept 
> nagging at me from the shop shelves....MGS3, GT4, Pro Evo 5 etc...but mostly 
> for the upcoming Shadow Of The Colossus and joint re-release of ICO, and so 
> I wanted to know what the PS2's UK equivalent [and busiest] newsgroup to 
> this and the UK Xbox group is??? I can't seem to find one, but I have NTL 
> news service and it is *poor* - is there one?

for PS2, it's uk.games.video.playstation
for Xbox, it's uk.games.video.xbox
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups/dir?sel=33606017&expand=1

> I'm trying to find help on connecting to its network for its [small few] 
> network enabled games....is there any multi-format owning peeps here who use 
> it, especially with NTL. 

I've never done it, but as far as i know, you stick an ethernet cable in 
the back of it (assuming it's a new, slim PS2, else you need a network 
adapter), and then you need a network configuration disc from Sony.

"Fry"  wrote in message 
news:43g097F1mftorU1@individual.net...
> Slitheen wrote:
>> Finally got myself a PS2, to get hold of its few must haves that kept 
>> nagging at me from the shop shelves....MGS3, GT4, Pro Evo 5 etc...but 
>> mostly for the upcoming Shadow Of The Colossus and joint re-release of 
>> ICO, and so I wanted to know what the PS2's UK equivalent [and busiest] 
>> newsgroup to this and the UK Xbox group is??? I can't seem to find one, 
>> but I have NTL news service and it is *poor* - is there one?
>
> for PS2, it's uk.games.video.playstation
> for Xbox, it's uk.games.video.xbox
> http://groups.google.co.uk/groups/dir?sel=33606017&expand=1
>
>> I'm trying to find help on connecting to its network for its [small few] 
>> network enabled games....is there any multi-format owning peeps here who 
>> use it, especially with NTL.
>
> I've never done it, but as far as i know, you stick an ethernet cable in 
> the back of it (assuming it's a new, slim PS2, else you need a network 
> adapter), and then you need a network configuration disc from Sony.

Yeah, it's a slim one (that's OK though as I have no HDD/online Final 
Fantasy plans...good job really). Just mooched on NTL Hell, and it seems you 
do just plug in, reset the modem, and use a Network start-up disc from Sony 
(just applied for mine). Which makes sense as I can plug my modem into a 
lap-top, and bingo....I'm online - no messing.

Then you are *supposed* to tell NTL you want to pay them yet even more money 
than you currently pay them, for their console service......but you simply 
don't - and play at will. This is what many NTL cable modem users seem to be 
doing freely, according to the forums. I use loads less bandwidth than most 
NTL users - I use bandwidth like dial-up, yet I'm paying for broadband, so I 
have no qualms with doing it sneakily.

Routers/networks are over my head too, so I can well live with the 
hot-swaps. Great. :)

Thanks for the tip on the PS2 group BTW - now it's showing up, before it 
never - maybe I misspelled.

> Routers/networks are over my head too, so I can well live with the 
> hot-swaps. Great. :)

Never used NTL before, but if you've got ethernet coming out of your 
modem, I think all you'd need is a wired ethernet switch to get 
everything plugged in at once (no configuration nececary).
Something like this:
http://www.netgear.co.uk/network_switch_fs605.php

If your swapping between your ps2 and pc the modem neads rebooting between 
each swap beacause of there different macs. Else the modem wont work. You 
can stick another £5 network card in your pc and connect that to ps2 or use 
the ethernet to usb dongle ntl ususally give you to pipe your internet into 
the pc and the ethernet port to connect to ps2.

Gordy

Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Sat, 21 Jan
2006 23:05:29 GMT, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do
uk.games.video.gamecube, yawatina tan reek esk "Slitheen"
 fornis do marikano es bono tan el:

>I'm trying to find help on connecting to its network for its [small few] 
>network enabled games....is there any multi-format owning peeps here who use 
>it, especially with NTL. 

I plugged it into my router, and it Just Worked.  I have NTL, and a Linksys
BEFSR41 router.  My PS2 (and Xbox) are now wirelessly networked though - I
have a D-Link mini-switch next to my TV, with a Netgear Wireless Bridge
plugged into that, along with the Xbox, PS2 and NES.  I then have a Belkin WAP
plugged into my router.

deKay
-- 
 + Lofi Gaming: www.lofi-gaming.org.uk  [Gamertag: deKay 01]
 |- Gaming Diary: www.lofi-gaming.org.uk/diary/  
 |- My computer runs at 3.5MHz and I'm proud of that
 |- CSS Crap Games Comp 2005: http://www.lofi-gaming.org.uk/speccy/cgc2005/

"Gordy"  wrote in message 
news:TuBAf.51545$q4.24572@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> If your swapping between your ps2 and pc the modem neads rebooting between 
> each swap beacause of there different macs. Else the modem wont work. You 
> can stick another £5 network card in your pc and connect that to ps2 or 
> use the ethernet to usb dongle ntl ususally give you to pipe your internet 
> into the pc and the ethernet port to connect to ps2.
>
> Gordy
>

Yeah, I know about the reset/reboot that's needed. I read of many people who 
plugged in and said "Oh well, doesn't work". I know from trying to plug into 
a lap-top that a reboot of the modem is needed, otherwise it still thinks 
it's my PC.....which, as you say, has a different MAC address.

"deKay" <andyk@deleteme.lofi-gaming.nospam.org.uk.invalid> wrote in message 
news:lbn6t1lo4bk15etifdr8nihth5ea81qc5e@4ax.com...
> Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Sat, 21 
> Jan
> 2006 23:05:29 GMT, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do
> uk.games.video.gamecube, yawatina tan reek esk "Slitheen"
>  fornis do marikano es bono tan el:
>
>>I'm trying to find help on connecting to its network for its [small few]
>>network enabled games....is there any multi-format owning peeps here who 
>>use
>>it, especially with NTL.
>
> I plugged it into my router, and it Just Worked.  I have NTL, and a 
> Linksys
> BEFSR41 router.  My PS2 (and Xbox) are now wirelessly networked though - I
> have a D-Link mini-switch next to my TV, with a Netgear Wireless Bridge
> plugged into that, along with the Xbox, PS2 and NES.  I then have a Belkin 
> WAP
> plugged into my router.
>

What is this strange language you speak? ;) Now this *is* going a wee bit 
over my head. Besides, everytime I look into it...and plan to get a router, 
all the ones in the shops say they are ADSL routers......but I'm cable, like 
you. Is this "Linksys BEFSR41 router" especially for cable broadband or 
something? As IF I can get one that works easily, I'll go for on of these. 
Cheers.

Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Sun, 22 Jan
2006 15:03:43 GMT, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do
uk.games.video.gamecube, yawatina tan reek esk "Slitheen"
 fornis do marikano es bono tan el:

>What is this strange language you speak? ;) Now this *is* going a wee bit 
>over my head. Besides, everytime I look into it...and plan to get a router, 
>all the ones in the shops say they are ADSL routers......but I'm cable, like 
>you. Is this "Linksys BEFSR41 router" especially for cable broadband or 
>something? As IF I can get one that works easily, I'll go for on of these. 

It's an "ADSL/Cable" router.  Basically, as long as you have a broadband modem
with an RJ45 port on it, it should work.

And yes, I'm using it with NTL.  There's probably a newer version (probably
with wifi too) about now.  Mine is almost three years old.

deKay
-- 
 + Lofi Gaming: www.lofi-gaming.org.uk  [Gamertag: deKay 01]
 |- Gaming Diary: www.lofi-gaming.org.uk/diary/  
 |- My computer runs at 3.5MHz and I'm proud of that
 |- CSS Crap Games Comp 2005: http://www.lofi-gaming.org.uk/speccy/cgc2005/

"Slitheen"  wrote in message 
news:Z6zAf.12912$0N1.6195@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> Finally got myself a PS2, to get hold of its few must haves that kept 
> nagging at me from the shop shelves....MGS3, GT4, Pro Evo 5 etc...but 
> mostly for the upcoming Shadow Of The Colossus and joint re-release of 
> ICO, and so I wanted to know what the PS2's UK equivalent [and busiest] 
> newsgroup to this and the UK Xbox group is??? I can't seem to find one, 
> but I have NTL news service and it is *poor* - is there one?
>
> I'm trying to find help on connecting to its network for its [small few] 
> network enabled games....is there any multi-format owning peeps here who 
> use it, especially with NTL.
>

Hi, If you not going wireless here is what you will need

3x Ethernet Cables..
1x Router with 4 port hub( I have same one as dekay mentioned, you can pick 
that up for £25-30)..
1x ethernet Card for pc if u dont already have one.

Plug in the router, Connect an ethernet cable from the modem ethernet port 
to the router wan port. It will be labelled as WAN port. [Make sure to 
unplug the modem USB connection to pc]. Plug in ethernet cable from pc to 
router. Plug in Ethernet cable from PS2 to router, and thats it, now 
configure the router for optimal performance via the web browser.

You then can run Xbox Live, Xbconnect, PS2 even Mario Kart Double Dash all 
online.

Its the same principle for wireless you just remove the need for cables and 
get wireless adapters, although you would still have to wire the modem to 
wireless router and configure it for security. Or as mentioned u can use a 
WAP to get wireless on top of wired router.

"Fantom"  wrote in message 
news:PjSAf.9116$mf2.4357@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> ....

Thanks for posting that, I appreciate it. I'm clearer on it now. I suppose 
it would be better than swapping over and rebooting my modem between PC and 
PS2, so I will definitely pursue a router soon - and also I wouldn't mind 
getting Mario Kart DD on the go, what Nintendo peripheral do I get for 
getting my cube online? Do they do a network kit like for the old type PS2?

Cheers.

"Slitheen"  wrote in message 
news:emUAf.12324$Kt5.1177@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>
> "Fantom"  wrote in message 
> news:PjSAf.9116$mf2.4357@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>>
>> ....
>
> Thanks for posting that, I appreciate it. I'm clearer on it now. I suppose 
> it would be better than swapping over and rebooting my modem between PC 
> and PS2, so I will definitely pursue a router soon - and also I wouldn't 
> mind getting Mario Kart DD on the go, what Nintendo peripheral do I get 
> for getting my cube online? Do they do a network kit like for the old type 
> PS2?
>
> Cheers.

For the GC you would need a GC Broadband Adapter and a free program called 
'warp pipe' which u can download. I read on the forums that  noone really 
plays that much since MK DS, so it may be best to see who's willing to play 
first before shelling out 20-30 quid for an adapter.

I was intending to get an adapter myself, but the thought of noone willing 
to play is putting me off. If there is a few ppl willing to play, id get one 
yesterday.

You can pick up the official Nintendo adapters on ebay.

You can get the software here http://cubeonline.warppipe.com

Let us know if u decide to get one, coz id be up for a few games :)

Well I've got my eye on a new router, the same as the one most commonly 
mentioned in this thread as it happens...but will probably have a bash with 
just my modem, if the network start up disc arrives from Sony before I get 
the chance to buy it.

I can't wait now.....does anyone know from experience how long Sony take to 
get your starter pack out? (through registration of new slim PS2's). Thanks.

Just got Pro Evo 5, is that up and running on the network? I bloody hope so. 
I also simply can't wait for MGS3: Snake Eater: Subsistence....for its 
online mode (if not for the improved single player camera too). It looks 
very basic capture the flag, like, but it's MGS FFS.....I'll be in heaven. 
:)

Thanks for all your help, and sorry for the OT post. Just that the PSX group 
is SO bloody quiet - you/us GCN fans should be proud of our good showing on 
Usenet! Has the PSX group always been so bloody quiet? This one and the Xbox 
one make it seem deserted by comparison. ;)

Cheers, all. :-)

"Fry"  wrote in message 
news:43g3qhF1ncn55U1@individual.net...
>> Routers/networks are over my head too, so I can well live with the 
>> hot-swaps. Great. :)
>
> Never used NTL before, but if you've got ethernet coming out of your 
> modem, I think all you'd need is a wired ethernet switch to get everything 
> plugged in at once (no configuration nececary).
> Something like this:
> http://www.netgear.co.uk/network_switch_fs605.php

What cabling do I need with an Ethernet switch method? I want to have just 
my PC and PS2 in use without hotswapping the Ethernet cable I presently 
have, that NTL supplied. Do I need 'crossover' or patch/'straight 
through'...or both? I'm getting my Linksys or Netgear Ethernet switch this 
week, so I could use knowing what cables to get. Presently I just have one 
NTL given Ethernet cable going from my modem to my PC's Ethernet port - I 
think that is a crossover type...unsure though. Thanks. :)

"Slitheen"  wrote in message 
news:GeyCf.63819$zt1.56669@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net...
> Presently I just have one NTL given Ethernet cable going from my modem to 
> my PC's Ethernet port - I think that is a crossover type...unsure though. 
> Thanks. :)
>

No no, the one I have going from my modem to my  PC is a patch one. Oops.