up from previous estimates of 23M


[sorry this is not in English]



http://www.gamefront.de

---------------------------------------------
05.01.06 - Die Nikko Citigroup erwartet durch die Veröffentlichung von
Revolution, dass der Aktienkurs von Nintendo in den nächsten 12
Monaten von Yen 14.000 auf Yen 18.000 steigen wird.
Außerdem erhöhten die Analysten ihre Prognose über die verkauften
Revolution-Stückzahlen: So erwartet man, dass statt den bisherigen 23
Mio. Einheiten insgesamt 30 Mio. Konsolen weltweit innerhalb des
Produktlebenszyklusses verkauft werden.
---------------------------------------------

that is up from previous estimates of Revolution selling 23M units
during its life


30 million Revolution systems would be better than Gamecube but
somewhat less than Nintendo 64,  which sold around 35 million units,
give or take a few million.

"Air Raid"  wrote in message 
news:1136503999.608515.122340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
up from previous estimates of 23M


[sorry this is not in English]



http://www.gamefront.de

---------------------------------------------
05.01.06 - Die Nikko Citigroup erwartet durch die Veröffentlichung von
Revolution, dass der Aktienkurs von Nintendo in den nächsten 12
Monaten von Yen 14.000 auf Yen 18.000 steigen wird.
Außerdem erhöhten die Analysten ihre Prognose über die verkauften
Revolution-Stückzahlen: So erwartet man, dass statt den bisherigen 23
Mio. Einheiten insgesamt 30 Mio. Konsolen weltweit innerhalb des
Produktlebenszyklusses verkauft werden.
---------------------------------------------

Do they have a crystal ball or something?

On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 01:11:05 GMT, "Rob"
 wrote:

>
>"Air Raid"  wrote in message 
>news:1136503999.608515.122340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>up from previous estimates of 23M
>
>
>[sorry this is not in English]
>
>
>
>http://www.gamefront.de
>
>---------------------------------------------
>05.01.06 - Die Nikko Citigroup erwartet durch die Veröffentlichung von
>Revolution, dass der Aktienkurs von Nintendo in den nächsten 12
>Monaten von Yen 14.000 auf Yen 18.000 steigen wird.
>Außerdem erhöhten die Analysten ihre Prognose über die verkauften
>Revolution-Stückzahlen: So erwartet man, dass statt den bisherigen 23
>Mio. Einheiten insgesamt 30 Mio. Konsolen weltweit innerhalb des
>Produktlebenszyklusses verkauft werden.
>---------------------------------------------
>
>Do they have a crystal ball or something? 
>
no, theyre "analysts"

ie people who are paid to make shit up based on absolutely fuck all
fact.
-- 

gamertag: Chrisflynnuk
http://live.xbox.com/member/Chrisflynnuk

"Chris F"  wrote in message 
news:l4hrr1hjvi7r00i0npbt0kjirogoh8blge@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 01:11:05 GMT, "Rob"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>"Air Raid"  wrote in message
>>news:1136503999.608515.122340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>up from previous estimates of 23M
>>
>>
>>[sorry this is not in English]
>>
>>
>>
>>http://www.gamefront.de
>>
>>---------------------------------------------
>>05.01.06 - Die Nikko Citigroup erwartet durch die Veröffentlichung von
>>Revolution, dass der Aktienkurs von Nintendo in den nächsten 12
>>Monaten von Yen 14.000 auf Yen 18.000 steigen wird.
>>Außerdem erhöhten die Analysten ihre Prognose über die verkauften
>>Revolution-Stückzahlen: So erwartet man, dass statt den bisherigen 23
>>Mio. Einheiten insgesamt 30 Mio. Konsolen weltweit innerhalb des
>>Produktlebenszyklusses verkauft werden.
>>---------------------------------------------
>>
>>Do they have a crystal ball or something?
>>
> no, theyre "analysts"
>
> ie people who are paid to make shit up based on absolutely fuck all
> fact.
> -- 
>
> gamertag: Chrisflynnuk
> http://live.xbox.com/member/Chrisflynnuk

wow, I want that job.

Let's see;

"In 2008, Microsoft and Sony will go bankrupt and Nintendo will rule the 
world."

On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 01:19:58 GMT, "Rob"
 wrote:

>
>wow, I want that job.
>
>Let's see;
>
>"In 2008, Microsoft and Sony will go bankrupt and Nintendo will rule the 
>world." 

I agree they are out of their minds.   It's possible the Revolution
(like the NIN DS) will take off and sell millions, but it's also
possible it will be a flop or just a mediocre product (like the
Cube,n64 saleswise) and just squeak by.   It's impossible to predict
at this stage in the game.  Maybe 1 year from now once all the
system's are out and the first round of games have been sold, someone
could make an educated guess but it is way too early.  One thing I
will say, Nintendo is aiming high with the Revolution, it will prob
either be really popular or a flop. I dont think there will be a
middle ground with this console.

Prodicting now is plain stupid as noone outside Nintendo knows anything 
about the system unt the bare basics.  Those annoying A-guys need to wait 
til true facts are out before opening their big mouths.

"kevin"  wrote in message 
news:0iorr1dfl9bfad2ffqp2u545fchtc7k44v@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 01:19:58 GMT, "Rob"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>wow, I want that job.
>>
>>Let's see;
>>
>>"In 2008, Microsoft and Sony will go bankrupt and Nintendo will rule the
>>world."
>
> I agree they are out of their minds.   It's possible the Revolution
> (like the NIN DS) will take off and sell millions, but it's also
> possible it will be a flop or just a mediocre product (like the
> Cube,n64 saleswise) and just squeak by.   It's impossible to predict
> at this stage in the game.  Maybe 1 year from now once all the
> system's are out and the first round of games have been sold, someone
> could make an educated guess but it is way too early.  One thing I
> will say, Nintendo is aiming high with the Revolution, it will prob
> either be really popular or a flop. I dont think there will be a
> middle ground with this console.
>
>
>
>

kevin wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 01:19:58 GMT, "Rob"
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>>wow, I want that job.
>>
>>Let's see;
>>
>>"In 2008, Microsoft and Sony will go bankrupt and Nintendo will rule the 
>>world." 
> 
> 
> I agree they are out of their minds.   It's possible the Revolution
> (like the NIN DS) will take off and sell millions, but it's also
> possible it will be a flop or just a mediocre product (like the
> Cube,n64 saleswise) and just squeak by.   It's impossible to predict
> at this stage in the game.  Maybe 1 year from now once all the
> system's are out and the first round of games have been sold, someone
> could make an educated guess but it is way too early.  One thing I
> will say, Nintendo is aiming high with the Revolution, it will prob
> either be really popular or a flop. I dont think there will be a
> middle ground with this console. 

Didn't you see tyhe bit up there about analysts? :)

Choobs

-- 
Sir Chewbury Gubbins 
Knight of the Wholly Gnarly Widget
http://www.nelefa.org

Rob wrote:
> wow, I want that job.
> 
> Let's see;
> 
> "In 2008, Microsoft and Sony will go bankrupt and Nintendo will rule the 
> world." 

Jeez, don;t you know you're supposed to be *paid* before you make shit 
up? That's usually the way it works with these guys. They get paid to 
make shit up and their employer then takes their opinions to their 
stockholders to inflate their stock.

"Phil Da Lick!"  wrote in message 
news:43be86a4$0$2705$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> Rob wrote:
>> wow, I want that job.
>>
>> Let's see;
>>
>> "In 2008, Microsoft and Sony will go bankrupt and Nintendo will rule the 
>> world."
>
> Jeez, don;t you know you're supposed to be *paid* before you make shit up? 
> That's usually the way it works with these guys. They get paid to make 
> shit up and their employer then takes their opinions to their stockholders 
> to inflate their stock.

Don't forget the powerpoint presentations, and the charts.  Especially the 
charts.  The more charts you have, the more weight your "analysis" will 
carry with the people who matter.

"Air Raid"  wrote in message 
news:1136503999.608515.122340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>up from previous estimates of 23M
>snip
>30 million Revolution systems would be better than Gamecube but
>somewhat less than Nintendo 64,  which sold around 35 million units,
>give or take a few million.

As others have pointed out, this stuff is basically worthless as a 
prediction tool.  However, it does actually help Nintendo if the perception 
among "analysts" is that the console will sell well.  It will help to get 
funding from publishers for third party games, and more attention from 
retail buyers.  Sad, but true.

["Followup-To:" header set to alt.games.video.sony-playstation.]
On 2006-01-06, El Guapo  wrote:
> "Air Raid"  wrote in message 
> news:1136503999.608515.122340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>up from previous estimates of 23M
>>snip
>>30 million Revolution systems would be better than Gamecube but
>>somewhat less than Nintendo 64,  which sold around 35 million units,
>>give or take a few million.
>
> As others have pointed out, this stuff is basically worthless as a 
> prediction tool.  However, it does actually help Nintendo if the perception 
> among "analysts" is that the console will sell well.  It will help to get 
> funding from publishers for third party games, and more attention from 
> retail buyers.  Sad, but true.

Not to mention the support of the sad-sacks who want to be seen to have
the console which will 'BE TEH W1NNAR 0f TEH R4Ce!!11!!one!"

Choobs
-- 
Sir Chewbury Gubbins 
Knight of the Wholly Gnarly Widget
Mario Kart DS FC: 146 088 722 295
http://www.nelefa.org

"Jonesy"  wrote in
news:43be3450$0$15769$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au: 

> Prodicting now is plain stupid as noone outside Nintendo knows
> anything about the system unt the bare basics.  Those annoying A-guys
> need to wait til true facts are out before opening their big mouths.

If they did, they wouldn't have jobs.

-- 

Aaron J. Bossig

http://www.GodsLabRat.com
http://www.dvdverdict.com

Air Raid wrote:
> up from previous estimates of 23M
> 
> 
> [sorry this is not in English]
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.gamefront.de
> 
> ---------------------------------------------
> 05.01.06 - Die Nikko Citigroup erwartet durch die Veröffentlichung von
> Revolution, dass der Aktienkurs von Nintendo in den nächsten 12
> Monaten von Yen 14.000 auf Yen 18.000 steigen wird.
> Außerdem erhöhten die Analysten ihre Prognose über die verkauften
> Revolution-Stückzahlen: So erwartet man, dass statt den bisherigen 23
> Mio. Einheiten insgesamt 30 Mio. Konsolen weltweit innerhalb des
> Produktlebenszyklusses verkauft werden.
> ---------------------------------------------
> 
> that is up from previous estimates of Revolution selling 23M units
> during its life
> 
> 
> 30 million Revolution systems would be better than Gamecube but
> somewhat less than Nintendo 64,  which sold around 35 million units,
> give or take a few million.
> 
Since Nintendo hasn't released all the information about the Revolution 
yet their analysis has to be wrong, just by definition.

On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 08:24:08 GMT, blue 
wrote:

>Since Nintendo hasn't released all the information about the Revolution 
>yet their analysis has to be wrong, just by definition.


How do they make predictions about systems that arent even released?
Pull names/#'s out of a hat?

kevin wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 08:24:08 GMT, blue 
> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Since Nintendo hasn't released all the information about the Revolution 
>>yet their analysis has to be wrong, just by definition.
> 
> 
> 
> How do they make predictions about systems that arent even released?
> Pull names/#'s out of a hat?   

They're "analysts", so yes, in fact. .. They just make this stuff up. 
  They're glorified weathermen.