Due back on Wed. for an INSET Day. Kids in on Thurs.

So I go in today to start setting my room up.
I got there about 9.30. No staff there. A few blokes waiting to put
new windows in so I let them in.

Bloke waiting to do summat to the server, He set one foot in the place
and said he couldn't do it.

No room is usable.
Most rooms have no ceilings or lights.
No leccy.
Projectors have been taken out of the ceilings. I hope they know which
ones go back in which rooms.
Wires dangling everywhere.
Floors covered in plastic.
Furniture and resources piled up in the middle of each room, but the
wrong rooms, like they've been playing Musical Furniture.
Shelves cleared but draped in plastic.
Dirt everywhere.

Bloke from the LA phones the HT and tells her that the building work
is 2 and a half weeks late.
Then the building will have to be deep cleaned then we'll have to put
the stuff back in the right rooms. That makes a delay of about 3-4
weeks.

Who reckons we'll be in by this Wed?

I can't believe we'll be allowed to start 4 weeks late.
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On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:35:25 +0100, Sheel wrote:

<><
>Bloke from the LA phones the HT and tells her that the building work
>is 2 and a half weeks late.
>Then the building will have to be deep cleaned then we'll have to put
>the stuff back in the right rooms. That makes a delay of about 3-4
>weeks.
>
>Who reckons we'll be in by this Wed?
>
>I can't believe we'll be allowed to start 4 weeks late.

Well, now that your house is so pristine, you'll be able to invite a
few classes round to fill the gap :-)
-- 
Liz

Liz burbled:

>On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:35:25 +0100, Sheel wrote:
>
><><
>>Bloke from the LA phones the HT and tells her that the building work
>>is 2 and a half weeks late.
>>Then the building will have to be deep cleaned then we'll have to put
>>the stuff back in the right rooms. That makes a delay of about 3-4
>>weeks.
>>
>>Who reckons we'll be in by this Wed?
>>
>>I can't believe we'll be allowed to start 4 weeks late.
>
>Well, now that your house is so pristine, you'll be able to invite a
>few classes round to fill the gap :-)

The HT was half thinking about having the INSET day in her house.

I left as she was walking to the school next door to see if we can
borrow a room.
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Sheel warbled...
> Due back on Wed. for an INSET Day. Kids in on Thurs.
> 
> So I go in today to start setting my room up.
> I got there about 9.30. No staff there. A few blokes waiting to put
> new windows in so I let them in.
> 
> Bloke waiting to do summat to the server, He set one foot in the place
> and said he couldn't do it.
> 
> No room is usable.
<snip sorry tale>
> Who reckons we'll be in by this Wed?
> 
> I can't believe we'll be allowed to start 4 weeks late.
> 
I can't believe your HT hasn't been on top of the situation.
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Sheel wrote:
> Liz burbled:
> 
>> On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:35:25 +0100, Sheel wrote:
>>
>> <><
>>> Bloke from the LA phones the HT and tells her that the building work
>>> is 2 and a half weeks late.
>>> Then the building will have to be deep cleaned then we'll have to put
>>> the stuff back in the right rooms. That makes a delay of about 3-4
>>> weeks.
>>>
>>> Who reckons we'll be in by this Wed?
>>>
>>> I can't believe we'll be allowed to start 4 weeks late.
>> Well, now that your house is so pristine, you'll be able to invite a
>> few classes round to fill the gap :-)
> 
> The HT was half thinking about having the INSET day in her house.
> 
> I left as she was walking to the school next door to see if we can
> borrow a room.

In 1 school I worked in, there was a huge fire overnight in a factory 
warehouse opposite. The fire service used the school as a rest / control 
centre and caused a real mess. The head had a staff meeting in her 
house, where we sorted a few things out and then had the rest of the 
week off whilst the school was brought back to a usable state.

"Sheel"  wrote
> No room is usable.
> Most rooms have no ceilings or lights.
> No leccy.
> Projectors have been taken out of the ceilings. I hope they know which
> ones go back in which rooms.
> Wires dangling everywhere.
> Floors covered in plastic.
> Furniture and resources piled up in the middle of each room, but the
> wrong rooms, like they've been playing Musical Furniture.
> Shelves cleared but draped in plastic.
> Dirt everywhere.

Sounds familiar!!
Our school is like a building site complete with signs telling us to wear 
our hard hats and shoes!
Our gates are up but the fencing to go with it is piled up blocking the 
outside door of a classroom (hmm wonder if that is a fire escape??) Our 
kitchen pod has arrived in 10 seperate pieces and is Huuuuuuuuugggggeeee. It 
takes up most of the Junior girls playground which the Head will not be 
pleased to see tomorrow.
We had an INSET today and children are in tomorrow. Our Chair of Governors 
said it looks unsafe on health and safety ground even when they take the 
crane away!
Oh and we have another 3 weeks of sandwiches till they sort out the cookers 
in the not so portable kitchen.

At least my classroom is the cleanest and tidiest it has ever been ready for 
tomorrow!
Jennie

Bev burbled:

> Sheel warbled...
>> Due back on Wed. for an INSET Day. Kids in on Thurs.
>> 
>> So I go in today to start setting my room up.
>> I got there about 9.30. No staff there. A few blokes waiting to put
>> new windows in so I let them in.
>> 
>> Bloke waiting to do summat to the server, He set one foot in the place
>> and said he couldn't do it.
>> 
>> No room is usable.
><snip sorry tale>
>> Who reckons we'll be in by this Wed?
>> 
>> I can't believe we'll be allowed to start 4 weeks late.
>> 
>I can't believe your HT hasn't been on top of the situation.

We weren't allowed in until this week.

She was at a meeting before it started. The builders haven't done
their bit.

The work is overseen by somebody from the LA not by the HT.
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dennis@fake burbled:

>Sheel wrote:

>> The HT was half thinking about having the INSET day in her house.
>> 
>> I left as she was walking to the school next door to see if we can
>> borrow a room.
>
>In 1 school I worked in, there was a huge fire overnight in a factory 
>warehouse opposite. The fire service used the school as a rest / control 
>centre and caused a real mess. The head had a staff meeting in her 
>house, where we sorted a few things out and then had the rest of the 
>week off whilst the school was brought back to a usable state.

Last July we broke up early cos we were getting ready for painting.
The September before that we were a week late back cos of a flood.

This year they wanted to do this work in the middle of the spring
term, so we sensibly put it off to the summer hols.

It's not our fault it's late.
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Jennie burbled:

>Our 
>kitchen pod has arrived in 10 seperate pieces and is Huuuuuuuuugggggeeee. 

Is that to free up room in the school?

>It 
>takes up most of the Junior girls playground which the Head will not be 
>pleased to see tomorrow.

Wasn't the HT in today?

>We had an INSET today and children are in tomorrow. Our Chair of Governors 
>said it looks unsafe on health and safety ground even when they take the 
>crane away!
>Oh and we have another 3 weeks of sandwiches till they sort out the cookers 
>in the not so portable kitchen.
>
>At least my classroom is the cleanest and tidiest it has ever been ready for 
>tomorrow!

Do you fancy some extra kids for a while?
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"Sheel"  wrote in message 
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> Jennie burbled:
>
>>Our
>>kitchen pod has arrived in 10 seperate pieces and is Huuuuuuuuugggggeeee.
>
> Is that to free up room in the school?
>
>>It
>>takes up most of the Junior girls playground which the Head will not be
>>pleased to see tomorrow.
>
> Wasn't the HT in today?
>
>>We had an INSET today and children are in tomorrow. Our Chair of Governors
>>said it looks unsafe on health and safety ground even when they take the
>>crane away!
>>Oh and we have another 3 weeks of sandwiches till they sort out the 
>>cookers
>>in the not so portable kitchen.
>>
>>At least my classroom is the cleanest and tidiest it has ever been ready 
>>for
>>tomorrow!
>
> Do you fancy some extra kids for a while?

Are your schools Foundation or Community?

I can't imaging not having more input into what's going on.

(But I'd love the extra time off).

-- 
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"Sheel" wrote
> Is that to free up room in the school?

Nope its to replace the rat infested kitchen that was condemmed in the 
summer term!!! We have this for a term then they say they wil build the new 
kitchen. If that goes up as quickly as our new children's centre building 
(not even started yet although was supposed to be built this summer) we 
shall be waiting for ever for the permanent building. If you imagine 10 
portacabin things all joined togther that is what it looks like!

>>It
>>takes up most of the Junior girls playground which the Head will not be
>>pleased to see tomorrow.
>
> Wasn't the HT in today?

She was but had to go to a meeting in the pm. Her school do not even use the 
seating part of the kitchen so I think she will be expressing her 
displeasure at losing half her playground.


> Do you fancy some extra kids for a while?
No ta, I actually have a well behaved class with no behaviour issues this 
year!!! Although I do have one space so could get a complete nightmare to 
upset the balance!
Jennie

"Ellie"  wrote

> Are your schools Foundation or Community?
>
> I can't imaging not having more input into what's going on.
>
> (But I'd love the extra time off).
We are community but the LA was responsible for the kitchen as they 
condemmed our other one.

We have to have 3 metre tall gates and fencing for the insurance to cover 
us. We just need a tower with beam lights and the prison look is complete!

And we are opening tomorrow and just waiting for the first accident then we 
will close again!
Jennie

"Jennie"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Ellie"  wrote
>
>> Are your schools Foundation or Community?
>>
>> I can't imaging not having more input into what's going on.
>>
>> (But I'd love the extra time off).
> We are community but the LA was responsible for the kitchen as they 
> condemmed our other one.

Ah. That explains it.
I'm glad we're Foundation, we have far more say in what happens in our own 
school.

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Ellie burbled:


>Are your schools Foundation or Community?

No.

>I can't imaging not having more input into what's going on.

We weren't doing the asbestos and ceiling work ourselves. It goes
against the new workload agreement.

>(But I'd love the extra time off).

:-))
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Jennie burbled:

>
>"Sheel" wrote

>> Do you fancy some extra kids for a while?
>No ta, I actually have a well behaved class with no behaviour issues this 
>year!!! Although I do have one space so could get a complete nightmare to 
>upset the balance!

<sheel notes - one spare place in Jennie's class>

Ok, who else has got a spare place?
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On Sep 1, 8:02 pm, Sheel  wrote:

> >In 1 school I worked in, there was a huge fire overnight in a factory
> >warehouse opposite. The fire service used the school as a rest / control
> >centre and caused a real mess. The head had a staff meeting in her
> >house, where we sorted a few things out and then had the rest of the
> >week off whilst the school was brought back to a usable state.
>
> Last July we broke up early cos we were getting ready for painting.
> The September before that we were a week late back cos of a flood.

And yet if a parent requests to take a child out of school for one day
they are allegedly ruining their child's education with all sorts of
veiled threats in the return letter.  [And in this regard I do not
mean a day off for a lark...  I am talking about one off opportunities
that a school can't/won't provide ]

No damage done to the child's education by these sorts of disruptions
though eh?

ian

didds wented:
>On Sep 1, 8:02 pm, Sheel  wrote:
>> >In 1 school I worked in, there was a huge fire overnight in a factory
>> >warehouse opposite. The fire service used the school as a rest / control
>> >centre and caused a real mess. The head had a staff meeting in her
>> >house, where we sorted a few things out and then had the rest of the
>> >week off whilst the school was brought back to a usable state.
>>
>> Last July we broke up early cos we were getting ready for painting.
>> The September before that we were a week late back cos of a flood.
>
>And yet if a parent requests to take a child out of school for one day
>they are allegedly ruining their child's education with all sorts of
>veiled threats in the return letter.  [And in this regard I do not
>mean a day off for a lark...  I am talking about one off opportunities
>that a school can't/won't provide ]
>
>No damage done to the child's education by these sorts of disruptions
>though eh?
>
You raise a good point there, Ian.

So, as a parent who clearly cares about your child's education, should
your child's school suffer the misfortune of being flooded, or messed up
by firemen, or some other unforeseen circumstance, with the children
needing to be kept off for a few days, you would want the school to open
for a few extra days at the end of term, even if it meant that any
teachers or parents of pupils who had made holiday arrangements would
have to cancel them?

If not, how would you propose to overcome the problems caused by
unforeseen disruptions?

Some disruptions to a child's education cannot be avoided. Some can.
-- 
greebs

didds burbled:

>On Sep 1, 8:02 pm, Sheel  wrote:
>
>> >In 1 school I worked in, there was a huge fire overnight in a factory
>> >warehouse opposite. The fire service used the school as a rest / control
>> >centre and caused a real mess. The head had a staff meeting in her
>> >house, where we sorted a few things out and then had the rest of the
>> >week off whilst the school was brought back to a usable state.

I didn't write that.

>> Last July we broke up early cos we were getting ready for painting.
>> The September before that we were a week late back cos of a flood.
>
>And yet if a parent requests to take a child out of school for one day
>they are allegedly ruining their child's education with all sorts of
>veiled threats in the return letter.  [And in this regard I do not
>mean a day off for a lark...  I am talking about one off opportunities
>that a school can't/won't provide ]
>
>No damage done to the child's education by these sorts of disruptions
>though eh?

Seen in a positive way, the flood was out of our control.
The painting was to provide a better working/learning environment.
It was not done lightly. The children missed a couple of days at the
end of July when very little learning takes place anyway.
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I'm on two diets. You don't get enough food with one diet.

greebog burbled:

snip

>any
>teachers or parents of pupils who had made holiday arrangements would
>have to cancel them?

That reminds me. I love the Master Card TV ad on at the mo, where
teachers rush out of a school building at the start of the summer hols
and jump into a swimming pool.
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Salad is not food; it's what food eats.

didds warbled...
> On Sep 1, 8:02 pm, Sheel  wrote:
> 
> > >In 1 school I worked in, there was a huge fire overnight in a factory
> > >warehouse opposite. The fire service used the school as a rest / control
> > >centre and caused a real mess. The head had a staff meeting in her
> > >house, where we sorted a few things out and then had the rest of the
> > >week off whilst the school was brought back to a usable state.
> >
> > Last July we broke up early cos we were getting ready for painting.
> > The September before that we were a week late back cos of a flood.
> 
> And yet if a parent requests to take a child out of school for one day
> they are allegedly ruining their child's education with all sorts of
> veiled threats in the return letter.  [And in this regard I do not
> mean a day off for a lark...  I am talking about one off opportunities
> that a school can't/won't provide ]
> 
> No damage done to the child's education by these sorts of disruptions
> though eh?
> 
> ian
> 
Silly man. Sheel isn't talking about your usual school. You wouldn't 
know that because you haven't bothered to look at the sort of posts that 
go on here without rudely jumping in with both feet (and what seems like 
quite a large chip on your shoulder).
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Bev burbled:

> didds warbled...
>> On Sep 1, 8:02 pm, Sheel  wrote:
>> 
>> > >In 1 school I worked in, there was a huge fire overnight in a factory
>> > >warehouse opposite. The fire service used the school as a rest / control
>> > >centre and caused a real mess. The head had a staff meeting in her
>> > >house, where we sorted a few things out and then had the rest of the
>> > >week off whilst the school was brought back to a usable state.
>> >
>> > Last July we broke up early cos we were getting ready for painting.
>> > The September before that we were a week late back cos of a flood.
>> 
>> And yet if a parent requests to take a child out of school for one day
>> they are allegedly ruining their child's education with all sorts of
>> veiled threats in the return letter.  [And in this regard I do not
>> mean a day off for a lark...  I am talking about one off opportunities
>> that a school can't/won't provide ]
>> 
>> No damage done to the child's education by these sorts of disruptions
>> though eh?
>> 
>> ian
>> 
>Silly man. Sheel isn't talking about your usual school. 

And most of the above wasn't written by her at all.
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Bev burbled:

>You wouldn't 
>know that because you haven't bothered to look at the sort of posts that 
>go on here 

Maybe we need to change the name of this ng.

Most staffrooms aren't full of weird, crazy teachers... oh... I see a
flaw there.
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