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date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:21:52 GMT,    group: uk.education.schools-it        back       
Cooling an ICT Room   
We have an ICT suite that holds 29 PC's. Temperatures range from 84 to 94F 
which of course are too high when PC's are turned on. I have brought in H&S 
but there is a minimum temp to abide by but not a max.

My Buildings Manager wants to take the heat from the room and use it 
elsewhere but this will take time but is common sense when upstairs is very 
cold. The Btu is 15000 for the room without PC's turned on so 21000btu would 
be realistic. Air conditioning is around £10000 for the room (or so we have 
been told by consultants!!).

Has anyone else had a similar problem and could give me advice on a long 
term solution?

Steve Walker
date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:21:52 GMT   author:   Steve Walker

Re: Cooling an ICT Room   
"Steve Walker"  wrote in message 
news:A7W%i.92627$7_4.40956@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

> Has anyone else had a similar problem and could give me advice on a long 
> term solution?

Install cooler computers? Are the computers you currently have in there the 
most energy efficient you can buy? Some models generate substantially more 
heat than others.

Depending on the lessons being delivered, have you considered using terminal 
services and 'dumb' terminals in that room? That would certainly solve the 
problem.
date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:49:51 GMT   author:   Robert Moir

Re: Cooling an ICT Room   
Good point but heavy needs on processing. Nice room to teach in and took me 
5 years to get into, trying not to move, did not consider this kind of 
tempreature.

Steve Walker

"Robert Moir"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Steve Walker"  wrote in message 
> news:A7W%i.92627$7_4.40956@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
>> Has anyone else had a similar problem and could give me advice on a long 
>> term solution?
>
> Install cooler computers? Are the computers you currently have in there 
> the most energy efficient you can buy? Some models generate substantially 
> more heat than others.
>
> Depending on the lessons being delivered, have you considered using 
> terminal services and 'dumb' terminals in that room? That would certainly 
> solve the problem.
>
date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:06:05 GMT   author:   Steve Walker

Re: Cooling an ICT Room   
"Steve Walker"  wrote in message 
news:A7W%i.92627$7_4.40956@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> We have an ICT suite that holds 29 PC's. Temperatures range from 84 to 94F 
> which of course are too high when PC's are turned on. I have brought in 
> H&S but there is a minimum temp to abide by but not a max.
>
> My Buildings Manager wants to take the heat from the room and use it 
> elsewhere but this will take time but is common sense when upstairs is 
> very cold. The Btu is 15000 for the room without PC's turned on so 
> 21000btu would be realistic. Air conditioning is around £10000 for the 
> room (or so we have been told by consultants!!).
>
> Has anyone else had a similar problem and could give me advice on a long 
> term solution?
>
> Steve Walker


We install air conditioning in each room that we turn into IT rooms. 
Admittedly only 23 comps in each but the cost is usually about £3k.  I would 
have to check the cost but no way do we pay £10k
>
date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:28:01 -0000   author:   Liz J thejordanschangethistoanatsignclara.net

Re: Cooling an ICT Room   
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:28:01 -0000, "Liz J"
<thejordanschangethistoanatsignclara.net> wrote:

>
>"Steve Walker"  wrote in message 
>news:A7W%i.92627$7_4.40956@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> We have an ICT suite that holds 29 PC's. Temperatures range from 84 to 94F 
>> which of course are too high when PC's are turned on. I have brought in 
>> H&S but there is a minimum temp to abide by but not a max.
>>
>> My Buildings Manager wants to take the heat from the room and use it 
>> elsewhere but this will take time but is common sense when upstairs is 
>> very cold. The Btu is 15000 for the room without PC's turned on so 
>> 21000btu would be realistic. Air conditioning is around £10000 for the 
>> room (or so we have been told by consultants!!).
>>
>> Has anyone else had a similar problem and could give me advice on a long 
>> term solution?
>>
>> Steve Walker
>
>
>We install air conditioning in each room that we turn into IT rooms. 
>Admittedly only 23 comps in each but the cost is usually about £3k.  I would 
>have to check the cost but no way do we pay £10k



I think the most we have paid for air-con was 6K, but now we have
ground cooling (don't ask the cost)
We also looked at recycling the heat, which I think is a great idea,
but the building needs to be designed for it.
This subject could save schools a great deal of money if planned
correctly.

Paul
date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:45:14 GMT   author:   Paul

Re: Cooling an ICT Room   
In article <A7W%i.92627$7_4.40956@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
   Steve Walker  wrote:
> Has anyone else had a similar problem and could give me advice on a long 
> term solution?

Buy PCs that don't throw out so much heat? [Mine runs cold]. ;-)

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date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:46:41 +0000 (GMT)   author:   John Cartmell

Re: Cooling an ICT Room   
In a dim and distant universe ,
   John Cartmell  muttered:

> Buy PCs that don't throw out so much heat? [Mine runs cold]. ;-)

Indeed. Mine too. An Iyonix, an A9 Home and several Risc PCs. The warmest
things in the office are the LCD monitor and UPS. :-)

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date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:30:38 +0000 (GMT)   author:   Paul Vigay

Re: Cooling an ICT Room   
Thanks for your suggestions all. Think the Air Con seems to be the best 
bet - the quote was OTT me thinks

Steve Walker

"Steve Walker"  wrote in message 
news:A7W%i.92627$7_4.40956@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> We have an ICT suite that holds 29 PC's. Temperatures range from 84 to 94F 
> which of course are too high when PC's are turned on. I have brought in 
> H&S but there is a minimum temp to abide by but not a max.
>
> My Buildings Manager wants to take the heat from the room and use it 
> elsewhere but this will take time but is common sense when upstairs is 
> very cold. The Btu is 15000 for the room without PC's turned on so 
> 21000btu would be realistic. Air conditioning is around £10000 for the 
> room (or so we have been told by consultants!!).
>
> Has anyone else had a similar problem and could give me advice on a long 
> term solution?
>
> Steve Walker
>
date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:56:22 GMT   author:   Steve Walker

Re: Cooling an ICT Room   
We set up a new ICT suite about 5 years ago with a room full of old
PCs that acted like fan-heaters with CRT monitors on top!  Put in
aircon straight away ... about £5K I think.

However, now we have cool PCs and all flat screens and we freeze if
the aircon is running much off minimum.  Aircon is still needed as the
room is an internal with no direct exterior windows and doors.

Suggest you get cool and go flat screen !

Regards,

Peter Orford
ICT Co-ordinator
Doncaster School for the Deaf
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On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:21:52 GMT, "Steve Walker"
 wrote:

>We have an ICT suite that holds 29 PC's. Temperatures range from 84 to 94F 
>which of course are too high when PC's are turned on. I have brought in H&S 
>but there is a minimum temp to abide by but not a max.
>
>My Buildings Manager wants to take the heat from the room and use it 
>elsewhere but this will take time but is common sense when upstairs is very 
>cold. The Btu is 15000 for the room without PC's turned on so 21000btu would 
>be realistic. Air conditioning is around £10000 for the room (or so we have 
>been told by consultants!!).
>
>Has anyone else had a similar problem and could give me advice on a long 
>term solution?
>
>Steve Walker 
>
date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:46:19 +0000   author:   Peter Orford

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