The annual Wakefield RISC OS Computer Show has a new venue tomorrow (Saturday
19th May):

The Mill House & Frobisher Suite
Stanley Ferry Marina
Ferry Lane
Stanley
Wakefield
WF3 4LT

10:30 to 17:00

Very little is generally advertised about computer platforms other than
Windows machines and standard PCs. This is your chance to add to that
knowledge and see computer systems that were developed independently of
Windows (apart from the ideas that Bill Gates nicked!) and hardware using
significantly different processors - although designed for desktop computers
by Acorn you almost certainly own 2 or 3 of these processors yourself, inside
a mobile phone or Sat Nav for example.

If you remember the Beebs (BBC A&B Computers, BBC Basic, the BBC Computer
Literacy Project, The Domesday Project, &c) then that started over 25 years
ago and there will be a stand at the show with 8-bit hardware to the fore.

And there will be current RISC OS machines and software of course, together
with the latest RISC Operating System (RISC OS 6) released this month.

If you do go then say 'hello' to me on the Qercus / Acorn User stand.

-- 
	John Cartmell	john@finnybank.com	0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
	Qercus magazine	FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527		www.finnybank.com
	Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

"John Cartmell"  wrote in message 
news:4ee4df58c8john@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> The annual Wakefield RISC OS Computer Show has a new venue tomorrow 
> (Saturday
> 19th May):
>
> The Mill House & Frobisher Suite
> Stanley Ferry Marina
> Ferry Lane
> Stanley
> Wakefield
> WF3 4LT
>
> 10:30 to 17:00
>
> Very little is generally advertised about computer platforms other than
> Windows machines and standard PCs. This is your chance to add to that
> knowledge and see computer systems that were developed independently of
> Windows (apart from the ideas that Bill Gates nicked!) and hardware using
> significantly different processors - although designed for desktop 
> computers
> by Acorn you almost certainly own 2 or 3 of these processors yourself, 
> inside
> a mobile phone or Sat Nav for example.
>
> If you remember the Beebs (BBC A&B Computers, BBC Basic, the BBC Computer
> Literacy Project, The Domesday Project, &c) then that started over 25 
> years
> ago and there will be a stand at the show with 8-bit hardware to the fore.
>
> And there will be current RISC OS machines and software of course, 
> together
> with the latest RISC Operating System (RISC OS 6) released this month.
>
> If you do go then say 'hello' to me on the Qercus / Acorn User stand.
>
> -- 
> John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
> Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
> Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

Do I remember? I'll say, still having the nightmares.
My first task on joining Granada Microcare based at Kersley was pulling the
ARTHUR EPROMS from A3000s and eeplacing them with RISCos 2
A colleuge spent most of his time repairing the Phillips Laservision
machines that formed part of the Domesday kit. Help me out here,
I have totally forgotton what computer controlled it.

School visits were fun, the teaching staff would refer to their new
computer as "The CD-ROM" this was quite universal and probably
meant they were used solely as media players and not much programming
went on.

I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
to buy a 50Mhz PC

I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

"John Cartmell"  wrote in message 
news:4ee4df58c8john@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> The annual Wakefield RISC OS Computer Show has a new venue tomorrow 
> (Saturday
> 19th May):
>
> The Mill House & Frobisher Suite
> Stanley Ferry Marina
> Ferry Lane
> Stanley
> Wakefield
> WF3 4LT
>
> 10:30 to 17:00
>
> Very little is generally advertised about computer platforms other than
> Windows machines and standard PCs. This is your chance to add to that
> knowledge and see computer systems that were developed independently of
> Windows (apart from the ideas that Bill Gates nicked!) and hardware using
> significantly different processors - although designed for desktop 
> computers
> by Acorn you almost certainly own 2 or 3 of these processors yourself, 
> inside
> a mobile phone or Sat Nav for example.
>
> If you remember the Beebs (BBC A&B Computers, BBC Basic, the BBC Computer
> Literacy Project, The Domesday Project, &c) then that started over 25 
> years
> ago and there will be a stand at the show with 8-bit hardware to the fore.
>
> And there will be current RISC OS machines and software of course, 
> together
> with the latest RISC Operating System (RISC OS 6) released this month.
>
> If you do go then say 'hello' to me on the Qercus / Acorn User stand.
>
> -- 
> John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
> Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
> Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

Do I remember? I'll say, still having the nightmares.
My first task on joining Granada Microcare based at Kersley was pulling the
ARTHUR EPROMS from A3000s and eeplacing them with RISCos 2
A colleuge spent most of his time repairing the Phillips Laservision
machines that formed part of the Domesday kit. Help me out here,
I have totally forgotton what computer controlled it.

School visits were fun, the teaching staff would refer to their new
computer as "The CD-ROM" this was quite universal and probably
meant they were used solely as media players and not much programming
went on.

I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
to buy a 50Mhz PC

I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

"John Cartmell"  wrote in message 
news:4ee4df58c8john@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> The annual Wakefield RISC OS Computer Show has a new venue tomorrow 
> (Saturday
> 19th May):
>
> The Mill House & Frobisher Suite
> Stanley Ferry Marina
> Ferry Lane
> Stanley
> Wakefield
> WF3 4LT
>
> 10:30 to 17:00
>
> Very little is generally advertised about computer platforms other than
> Windows machines and standard PCs. This is your chance to add to that
> knowledge and see computer systems that were developed independently of
> Windows (apart from the ideas that Bill Gates nicked!) and hardware using
> significantly different processors - although designed for desktop 
> computers
> by Acorn you almost certainly own 2 or 3 of these processors yourself, 
> inside
> a mobile phone or Sat Nav for example.
>
> If you remember the Beebs (BBC A&B Computers, BBC Basic, the BBC Computer
> Literacy Project, The Domesday Project, &c) then that started over 25 
> years
> ago and there will be a stand at the show with 8-bit hardware to the fore.
>
> And there will be current RISC OS machines and software of course, 
> together
> with the latest RISC Operating System (RISC OS 6) released this month.
>
> If you do go then say 'hello' to me on the Qercus / Acorn User stand.
>
> -- 
> John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
> Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
> Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

Do I remember? I'll say, still having the nightmares.
My first task on joining Granada Microcare based at Kersley was pulling the
ARTHUR EPROMS from A3000s and eeplacing them with RISCos 2
A colleuge spent most of his time repairing the Phillips Laservision
machines that formed part of the Domesday kit. Help me out here,
I have totally forgotton what computer controlled it.

School visits were fun, the teaching staff would refer to their new
computer as "The CD-ROM" this was quite universal and probably
meant they were used solely as media players and not much programming
went on.

I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
to buy a 50Mhz PC

I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

"John Cartmell"  wrote in message 
news:4ee4df58c8john@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> The annual Wakefield RISC OS Computer Show has a new venue tomorrow 
> (Saturday
> 19th May):
>
> The Mill House & Frobisher Suite
> Stanley Ferry Marina
> Ferry Lane
> Stanley
> Wakefield
> WF3 4LT
>
> 10:30 to 17:00
>
> Very little is generally advertised about computer platforms other than
> Windows machines and standard PCs. This is your chance to add to that
> knowledge and see computer systems that were developed independently of
> Windows (apart from the ideas that Bill Gates nicked!) and hardware using
> significantly different processors - although designed for desktop 
> computers
> by Acorn you almost certainly own 2 or 3 of these processors yourself, 
> inside
> a mobile phone or Sat Nav for example.
>
> If you remember the Beebs (BBC A&B Computers, BBC Basic, the BBC Computer
> Literacy Project, The Domesday Project, &c) then that started over 25 
> years
> ago and there will be a stand at the show with 8-bit hardware to the fore.
>
> And there will be current RISC OS machines and software of course, 
> together
> with the latest RISC Operating System (RISC OS 6) released this month.
>
> If you do go then say 'hello' to me on the Qercus / Acorn User stand.
>
> -- 
> John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
> Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
> Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

Do I remember? I'll say, still having the nightmares.
My first task on joining Granada Microcare based at Kersley was pulling the
ARTHUR EPROMS from A3000s and eeplacing them with RISCos 2
A colleuge spent most of his time repairing the Phillips Laservision
machines that formed part of the Domesday kit. Help me out here,
I have totally forgotton what computer controlled it.

School visits were fun, the teaching staff would refer to their new
computer as "The CD-ROM" this was quite universal and probably
meant they were used solely as media players and not much programming
went on.

I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
to buy a 50Mhz PC

I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

"John Cartmell"  wrote in message 
news:4ee4df58c8john@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> The annual Wakefield RISC OS Computer Show has a new venue tomorrow 
> (Saturday
> 19th May):
>
> The Mill House & Frobisher Suite
> Stanley Ferry Marina
> Ferry Lane
> Stanley
> Wakefield
> WF3 4LT
>
> 10:30 to 17:00
>
> Very little is generally advertised about computer platforms other than
> Windows machines and standard PCs. This is your chance to add to that
> knowledge and see computer systems that were developed independently of
> Windows (apart from the ideas that Bill Gates nicked!) and hardware using
> significantly different processors - although designed for desktop 
> computers
> by Acorn you almost certainly own 2 or 3 of these processors yourself, 
> inside
> a mobile phone or Sat Nav for example.
>
> If you remember the Beebs (BBC A&B Computers, BBC Basic, the BBC Computer
> Literacy Project, The Domesday Project, &c) then that started over 25 
> years
> ago and there will be a stand at the show with 8-bit hardware to the fore.
>
> And there will be current RISC OS machines and software of course, 
> together
> with the latest RISC Operating System (RISC OS 6) released this month.
>
> If you do go then say 'hello' to me on the Qercus / Acorn User stand.
>
> -- 
> John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
> Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
> Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

Do I remember? I'll say, still having the nightmares.
My first task on joining Granada Microcare based at Kersley was pulling the
ARTHUR EPROMS from A3000s and eeplacing them with RISCos 2
A colleuge spent most of his time repairing the Phillips Laservision
machines that formed part of the Domesday kit. Help me out here,
I have totally forgotton what computer controlled it.

School visits were fun, the teaching staff would refer to their new
computer as "The CD-ROM" this was quite universal and probably
meant they were used solely as media players and not much programming
went on.

I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
to buy a 50Mhz PC

I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

"John Cartmell"  wrote in message 
news:4ee4df58c8john@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> The annual Wakefield RISC OS Computer Show has a new venue tomorrow 
> (Saturday
> 19th May):
>
> The Mill House & Frobisher Suite
> Stanley Ferry Marina
> Ferry Lane
> Stanley
> Wakefield
> WF3 4LT
>
> 10:30 to 17:00
>
> Very little is generally advertised about computer platforms other than
> Windows machines and standard PCs. This is your chance to add to that
> knowledge and see computer systems that were developed independently of
> Windows (apart from the ideas that Bill Gates nicked!) and hardware using
> significantly different processors - although designed for desktop 
> computers
> by Acorn you almost certainly own 2 or 3 of these processors yourself, 
> inside
> a mobile phone or Sat Nav for example.
>
> If you remember the Beebs (BBC A&B Computers, BBC Basic, the BBC Computer
> Literacy Project, The Domesday Project, &c) then that started over 25 
> years
> ago and there will be a stand at the show with 8-bit hardware to the fore.
>
> And there will be current RISC OS machines and software of course, 
> together
> with the latest RISC Operating System (RISC OS 6) released this month.
>
> If you do go then say 'hello' to me on the Qercus / Acorn User stand.
>
> -- 
> John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
> Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
> Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

Do I remember? I'll say, still having the nightmares.
My first task on joining Granada Microcare based at Kersley was pulling the
ARTHUR EPROMS from A3000s and eeplacing them with RISCos 2
A colleuge spent most of his time repairing the Phillips Laservision
machines that formed part of the Domesday kit. Help me out here,
I have totally forgotton what computer controlled it.

School visits were fun, the teaching staff would refer to their new
computer as "The CD-ROM" this was quite universal and probably
meant they were used solely as media players and not much programming
went on.

I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
to buy a 50Mhz PC

I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

"John Cartmell"  wrote in message 
news:4ee4df58c8john@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> The annual Wakefield RISC OS Computer Show has a new venue tomorrow 
> (Saturday
> 19th May):
>
> The Mill House & Frobisher Suite
> Stanley Ferry Marina
> Ferry Lane
> Stanley
> Wakefield
> WF3 4LT
>
> 10:30 to 17:00
>
> Very little is generally advertised about computer platforms other than
> Windows machines and standard PCs. This is your chance to add to that
> knowledge and see computer systems that were developed independently of
> Windows (apart from the ideas that Bill Gates nicked!) and hardware using
> significantly different processors - although designed for desktop 
> computers
> by Acorn you almost certainly own 2 or 3 of these processors yourself, 
> inside
> a mobile phone or Sat Nav for example.
>
> If you remember the Beebs (BBC A&B Computers, BBC Basic, the BBC Computer
> Literacy Project, The Domesday Project, &c) then that started over 25 
> years
> ago and there will be a stand at the show with 8-bit hardware to the fore.
>
> And there will be current RISC OS machines and software of course, 
> together
> with the latest RISC Operating System (RISC OS 6) released this month.
>
> If you do go then say 'hello' to me on the Qercus / Acorn User stand.
>
> -- 
> John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
> Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
> Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

Do I remember? I'll say, still having the nightmares.
My first task on joining Granada Microcare based at Kersley was pulling the
ARTHUR EPROMS from A3000s and eeplacing them with RISCos 2
A colleuge spent most of his time repairing the Phillips Laservision
machines that formed part of the Domesday kit. Help me out here,
I have totally forgotton what computer controlled it.

School visits were fun, the teaching staff would refer to their new
computer as "The CD-ROM" this was quite universal and probably
meant they were used solely as media players and not much programming
went on.

I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
to buy a 50Mhz PC

I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

"John Cartmell"  wrote in message 
news:4ee4df58c8john@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> The annual Wakefield RISC OS Computer Show has a new venue tomorrow 
> (Saturday
> 19th May):
>
> The Mill House & Frobisher Suite
> Stanley Ferry Marina
> Ferry Lane
> Stanley
> Wakefield
> WF3 4LT
>
> 10:30 to 17:00
>
> Very little is generally advertised about computer platforms other than
> Windows machines and standard PCs. This is your chance to add to that
> knowledge and see computer systems that were developed independently of
> Windows (apart from the ideas that Bill Gates nicked!) and hardware using
> significantly different processors - although designed for desktop 
> computers
> by Acorn you almost certainly own 2 or 3 of these processors yourself, 
> inside
> a mobile phone or Sat Nav for example.
>
> If you remember the Beebs (BBC A&B Computers, BBC Basic, the BBC Computer
> Literacy Project, The Domesday Project, &c) then that started over 25 
> years
> ago and there will be a stand at the show with 8-bit hardware to the fore.
>
> And there will be current RISC OS machines and software of course, 
> together
> with the latest RISC Operating System (RISC OS 6) released this month.
>
> If you do go then say 'hello' to me on the Qercus / Acorn User stand.
>
> -- 
> John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
> Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
> Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

Do I remember? I'll say, still having the nightmares.
My first task on joining Granada Microcare based at Kersley was pulling the
ARTHUR EPROMS from A3000s and eeplacing them with RISCos 2
A colleuge spent most of his time repairing the Phillips Laservision
machines that formed part of the Domesday kit. Help me out here,
I have totally forgotton what computer controlled it.

School visits were fun, the teaching staff would refer to their new
computer as "The CD-ROM" this was quite universal and probably
meant they were used solely as media players and not much programming
went on.

I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
to buy a 50Mhz PC

I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

"John Cartmell"  wrote in message 
news:4ee4df58c8john@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> The annual Wakefield RISC OS Computer Show has a new venue tomorrow 
> (Saturday
> 19th May):
>
> The Mill House & Frobisher Suite
> Stanley Ferry Marina
> Ferry Lane
> Stanley
> Wakefield
> WF3 4LT
>
> 10:30 to 17:00
>
> Very little is generally advertised about computer platforms other than
> Windows machines and standard PCs. This is your chance to add to that
> knowledge and see computer systems that were developed independently of
> Windows (apart from the ideas that Bill Gates nicked!) and hardware using
> significantly different processors - although designed for desktop 
> computers
> by Acorn you almost certainly own 2 or 3 of these processors yourself, 
> inside
> a mobile phone or Sat Nav for example.
>
> If you remember the Beebs (BBC A&B Computers, BBC Basic, the BBC Computer
> Literacy Project, The Domesday Project, &c) then that started over 25 
> years
> ago and there will be a stand at the show with 8-bit hardware to the fore.
>
> And there will be current RISC OS machines and software of course, 
> together
> with the latest RISC Operating System (RISC OS 6) released this month.
>
> If you do go then say 'hello' to me on the Qercus / Acorn User stand.
>
> -- 
> John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
> Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
> Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

Do I remember? I'll say, still having the nightmares.
My first task on joining Granada Microcare based at Kersley was pulling the
ARTHUR EPROMS from A3000s and eeplacing them with RISCos 2
A colleuge spent most of his time repairing the Phillips Laservision
machines that formed part of the Domesday kit. Help me out here,
I have totally forgotton what computer controlled it.

School visits were fun, the teaching staff would refer to their new
computer as "The CD-ROM" this was quite universal and probably
meant they were used solely as media players and not much programming
went on.

I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
to buy a 50Mhz PC

I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

"John Cartmell"  wrote in message 
news:4ee4df58c8john@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> The annual Wakefield RISC OS Computer Show has a new venue tomorrow 
> (Saturday
> 19th May):
>
> The Mill House & Frobisher Suite
> Stanley Ferry Marina
> Ferry Lane
> Stanley
> Wakefield
> WF3 4LT
>
> 10:30 to 17:00
>
> Very little is generally advertised about computer platforms other than
> Windows machines and standard PCs. This is your chance to add to that
> knowledge and see computer systems that were developed independently of
> Windows (apart from the ideas that Bill Gates nicked!) and hardware using
> significantly different processors - although designed for desktop 
> computers
> by Acorn you almost certainly own 2 or 3 of these processors yourself, 
> inside
> a mobile phone or Sat Nav for example.
>
> If you remember the Beebs (BBC A&B Computers, BBC Basic, the BBC Computer
> Literacy Project, The Domesday Project, &c) then that started over 25 
> years
> ago and there will be a stand at the show with 8-bit hardware to the fore.
>
> And there will be current RISC OS machines and software of course, 
> together
> with the latest RISC Operating System (RISC OS 6) released this month.
>
> If you do go then say 'hello' to me on the Qercus / Acorn User stand.
>
> -- 
> John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
> Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
> Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

Do I remember? I'll say, still having the nightmares.
My first task on joining Granada Microcare based at Kersley was pulling the
ARTHUR EPROMS from A3000s and eeplacing them with RISCos 2
A colleuge spent most of his time repairing the Phillips Laservision
machines that formed part of the Domesday kit. Help me out here,
I have totally forgotton what computer controlled it.

School visits were fun, the teaching staff would refer to their new
computer as "The CD-ROM" this was quite universal and probably
meant they were used solely as media players and not much programming
went on.

I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
to buy a 50Mhz PC

I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

"John Cartmell"  wrote in message 
news:4ee4df58c8john@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> The annual Wakefield RISC OS Computer Show has a new venue tomorrow 
> (Saturday
> 19th May):
>
> The Mill House & Frobisher Suite
> Stanley Ferry Marina
> Ferry Lane
> Stanley
> Wakefield
> WF3 4LT
>
> 10:30 to 17:00
>
> Very little is generally advertised about computer platforms other than
> Windows machines and standard PCs. This is your chance to add to that
> knowledge and see computer systems that were developed independently of
> Windows (apart from the ideas that Bill Gates nicked!) and hardware using
> significantly different processors - although designed for desktop 
> computers
> by Acorn you almost certainly own 2 or 3 of these processors yourself, 
> inside
> a mobile phone or Sat Nav for example.
>
> If you remember the Beebs (BBC A&B Computers, BBC Basic, the BBC Computer
> Literacy Project, The Domesday Project, &c) then that started over 25 
> years
> ago and there will be a stand at the show with 8-bit hardware to the fore.
>
> And there will be current RISC OS machines and software of course, 
> together
> with the latest RISC Operating System (RISC OS 6) released this month.
>
> If you do go then say 'hello' to me on the Qercus / Acorn User stand.
>
> -- 
> John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
> Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
> Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

Do I remember? I'll say, still having the nightmares.
My first task on joining Granada Microcare based at Kersley was pulling the
ARTHUR EPROMS from A3000s and eeplacing them with RISCos 2
A colleuge spent most of his time repairing the Phillips Laservision
machines that formed part of the Domesday kit. Help me out here,
I have totally forgotton what computer controlled it.

School visits were fun, the teaching staff would refer to their new
computer as "The CD-ROM" this was quite universal and probably
meant they were used solely as media players and not much programming
went on.

I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
to buy a 50Mhz PC

I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

"John Cartmell"  wrote in message 
news:4ee4df58c8john@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> The annual Wakefield RISC OS Computer Show has a new venue tomorrow 
> (Saturday
> 19th May):
>
> The Mill House & Frobisher Suite
> Stanley Ferry Marina
> Ferry Lane
> Stanley
> Wakefield
> WF3 4LT
>
> 10:30 to 17:00
>
> Very little is generally advertised about computer platforms other than
> Windows machines and standard PCs. This is your chance to add to that
> knowledge and see computer systems that were developed independently of
> Windows (apart from the ideas that Bill Gates nicked!) and hardware using
> significantly different processors - although designed for desktop 
> computers
> by Acorn you almost certainly own 2 or 3 of these processors yourself, 
> inside
> a mobile phone or Sat Nav for example.
>
> If you remember the Beebs (BBC A&B Computers, BBC Basic, the BBC Computer
> Literacy Project, The Domesday Project, &c) then that started over 25 
> years
> ago and there will be a stand at the show with 8-bit hardware to the fore.
>
> And there will be current RISC OS machines and software of course, 
> together
> with the latest RISC Operating System (RISC OS 6) released this month.
>
> If you do go then say 'hello' to me on the Qercus / Acorn User stand.
>
> -- 
> John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
> Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
> Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

Do I remember? I'll say, still having the nightmares.
My first task on joining Granada Microcare based at Kersley was pulling the
ARTHUR EPROMS from A3000s and eeplacing them with RISCos 2
A colleuge spent most of his time repairing the Phillips Laservision
machines that formed part of the Domesday kit. Help me out here,
I have totally forgotton what computer controlled it.

School visits were fun, the teaching staff would refer to their new
computer as "The CD-ROM" this was quite universal and probably
meant they were used solely as media players and not much programming
went on.

I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
to buy a 50Mhz PC

I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

"John Cartmell"  wrote in message 
news:4ee4df58c8john@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> The annual Wakefield RISC OS Computer Show has a new venue tomorrow 
> (Saturday
> 19th May):
>
> The Mill House & Frobisher Suite
> Stanley Ferry Marina
> Ferry Lane
> Stanley
> Wakefield
> WF3 4LT
>
> 10:30 to 17:00
>
> Very little is generally advertised about computer platforms other than
> Windows machines and standard PCs. This is your chance to add to that
> knowledge and see computer systems that were developed independently of
> Windows (apart from the ideas that Bill Gates nicked!) and hardware using
> significantly different processors - although designed for desktop 
> computers
> by Acorn you almost certainly own 2 or 3 of these processors yourself, 
> inside
> a mobile phone or Sat Nav for example.
>
> If you remember the Beebs (BBC A&B Computers, BBC Basic, the BBC Computer
> Literacy Project, The Domesday Project, &c) then that started over 25 
> years
> ago and there will be a stand at the show with 8-bit hardware to the fore.
>
> And there will be current RISC OS machines and software of course, 
> together
> with the latest RISC Operating System (RISC OS 6) released this month.
>
> If you do go then say 'hello' to me on the Qercus / Acorn User stand.
>
> -- 
> John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
> Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
> Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

Do I remember? I'll say, still having the nightmares.
My first task on joining Granada Microcare based at Kersley was pulling the
ARTHUR EPROMS from A3000s and eeplacing them with RISCos 2
A colleuge spent most of his time repairing the Phillips Laservision
machines that formed part of the Domesday kit. Help me out here,
I have totally forgotton what computer controlled it.

School visits were fun, the teaching staff would refer to their new
computer as "The CD-ROM" this was quite universal and probably
meant they were used solely as media players and not much programming
went on.

I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
to buy a 50Mhz PC

I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

"John Cartmell"  wrote in message 
news:4ee4df58c8john@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> The annual Wakefield RISC OS Computer Show has a new venue tomorrow 
> (Saturday
> 19th May):
>
> The Mill House & Frobisher Suite
> Stanley Ferry Marina
> Ferry Lane
> Stanley
> Wakefield
> WF3 4LT
>
> 10:30 to 17:00
>
> Very little is generally advertised about computer platforms other than
> Windows machines and standard PCs. This is your chance to add to that
> knowledge and see computer systems that were developed independently of
> Windows (apart from the ideas that Bill Gates nicked!) and hardware using
> significantly different processors - although designed for desktop 
> computers
> by Acorn you almost certainly own 2 or 3 of these processors yourself, 
> inside
> a mobile phone or Sat Nav for example.
>
> If you remember the Beebs (BBC A&B Computers, BBC Basic, the BBC Computer
> Literacy Project, The Domesday Project, &c) then that started over 25 
> years
> ago and there will be a stand at the show with 8-bit hardware to the fore.
>
> And there will be current RISC OS machines and software of course, 
> together
> with the latest RISC Operating System (RISC OS 6) released this month.
>
> If you do go then say 'hello' to me on the Qercus / Acorn User stand.
>
> -- 
> John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
> Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
> Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

Do I remember? I'll say, still having the nightmares.
My first task on joining Granada Microcare based at Kersley was pulling the
ARTHUR EPROMS from A3000s and eeplacing them with RISCos 2
A colleuge spent most of his time repairing the Phillips Laservision
machines that formed part of the Domesday kit. Help me out here,
I have totally forgotton what computer controlled it.

School visits were fun, the teaching staff would refer to their new
computer as "The CD-ROM" this was quite universal and probably
meant they were used solely as media players and not much programming
went on.

I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
to buy a 50Mhz PC

I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

"John Cartmell"  wrote in message 
news:4ee4df58c8john@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> The annual Wakefield RISC OS Computer Show has a new venue tomorrow 
> (Saturday
> 19th May):
>
> The Mill House & Frobisher Suite
> Stanley Ferry Marina
> Ferry Lane
> Stanley
> Wakefield
> WF3 4LT
>
> 10:30 to 17:00
>
> Very little is generally advertised about computer platforms other than
> Windows machines and standard PCs. This is your chance to add to that
> knowledge and see computer systems that were developed independently of
> Windows (apart from the ideas that Bill Gates nicked!) and hardware using
> significantly different processors - although designed for desktop 
> computers
> by Acorn you almost certainly own 2 or 3 of these processors yourself, 
> inside
> a mobile phone or Sat Nav for example.
>
> If you remember the Beebs (BBC A&B Computers, BBC Basic, the BBC Computer
> Literacy Project, The Domesday Project, &c) then that started over 25 
> years
> ago and there will be a stand at the show with 8-bit hardware to the fore.
>
> And there will be current RISC OS machines and software of course, 
> together
> with the latest RISC Operating System (RISC OS 6) released this month.
>
> If you do go then say 'hello' to me on the Qercus / Acorn User stand.
>
> -- 
> John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
> Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
> Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

Do I remember? I'll say, still having the nightmares.
My first task on joining Granada Microcare based at Kersley was pulling the
ARTHUR EPROMS from A3000s and eeplacing them with RISCos 2
A colleuge spent most of his time repairing the Phillips Laservision
machines that formed part of the Domesday kit. Help me out here,
I have totally forgotton what computer controlled it.

School visits were fun, the teaching staff would refer to their new
computer as "The CD-ROM" this was quite universal and probably
meant they were used solely as media players and not much programming
went on.

I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
to buy a 50Mhz PC

I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

"John Cartmell"  wrote in message 
news:4ee4df58c8john@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> The annual Wakefield RISC OS Computer Show has a new venue tomorrow 
> (Saturday
> 19th May):
>
> The Mill House & Frobisher Suite
> Stanley Ferry Marina
> Ferry Lane
> Stanley
> Wakefield
> WF3 4LT
>
> 10:30 to 17:00
>
> Very little is generally advertised about computer platforms other than
> Windows machines and standard PCs. This is your chance to add to that
> knowledge and see computer systems that were developed independently of
> Windows (apart from the ideas that Bill Gates nicked!) and hardware using
> significantly different processors - although designed for desktop 
> computers
> by Acorn you almost certainly own 2 or 3 of these processors yourself, 
> inside
> a mobile phone or Sat Nav for example.
>
> If you remember the Beebs (BBC A&B Computers, BBC Basic, the BBC Computer
> Literacy Project, The Domesday Project, &c) then that started over 25 
> years
> ago and there will be a stand at the show with 8-bit hardware to the fore.
>
> And there will be current RISC OS machines and software of course, 
> together
> with the latest RISC Operating System (RISC OS 6) released this month.
>
> If you do go then say 'hello' to me on the Qercus / Acorn User stand.
>
> -- 
> John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
> Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
> Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

Do I remember? I'll say, still having the nightmares.
My first task on joining Granada Microcare based at Kersley was pulling the
ARTHUR EPROMS from A3000s and eeplacing them with RISCos 2
A colleuge spent most of his time repairing the Phillips Laservision
machines that formed part of the Domesday kit. Help me out here,
I have totally forgotton what computer controlled it.

School visits were fun, the teaching staff would refer to their new
computer as "The CD-ROM" this was quite universal and probably
meant they were used solely as media players and not much programming
went on.

I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
to buy a 50Mhz PC

I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

"John Cartmell"  wrote in message 
news:4ee4df58c8john@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> The annual Wakefield RISC OS Computer Show has a new venue tomorrow 
> (Saturday
> 19th May):
>
> The Mill House & Frobisher Suite
> Stanley Ferry Marina
> Ferry Lane
> Stanley
> Wakefield
> WF3 4LT
>
> 10:30 to 17:00
>
> Very little is generally advertised about computer platforms other than
> Windows machines and standard PCs. This is your chance to add to that
> knowledge and see computer systems that were developed independently of
> Windows (apart from the ideas that Bill Gates nicked!) and hardware using
> significantly different processors - although designed for desktop 
> computers
> by Acorn you almost certainly own 2 or 3 of these processors yourself, 
> inside
> a mobile phone or Sat Nav for example.
>
> If you remember the Beebs (BBC A&B Computers, BBC Basic, the BBC Computer
> Literacy Project, The Domesday Project, &c) then that started over 25 
> years
> ago and there will be a stand at the show with 8-bit hardware to the fore.
>
> And there will be current RISC OS machines and software of course, 
> together
> with the latest RISC Operating System (RISC OS 6) released this month.
>
> If you do go then say 'hello' to me on the Qercus / Acorn User stand.
>
> -- 
> John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
> Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
> Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

Do I remember? I'll say, still having the nightmares.
My first task on joining Granada Microcare based at Kersley was pulling the
ARTHUR EPROMS from A3000s and eeplacing them with RISCos 2
A colleuge spent most of his time repairing the Phillips Laservision
machines that formed part of the Domesday kit. Help me out here,
I have totally forgotton what computer controlled it.

School visits were fun, the teaching staff would refer to their new
computer as "The CD-ROM" this was quite universal and probably
meant they were used solely as media players and not much programming
went on.

I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
to buy a 50Mhz PC

I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

In article <f2lcd7$2mu$1@news.datemas.de>,
   Graham  wrote:
> I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
> Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
> 486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
> to buy a 50Mhz PC

> I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
> those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

I'm not sure what you mean by plastic slices. I'm using a RiscPC here (though
I've never bothered making serious use of the Windows / PC card - and that
card was removed and dumped as soon as I realised its only function was to
heat up the room. The RiscPC is quite capable of producing first class work -
where it fouls up in producing a colour magazine (Qercus) it's through my lack
of competence - not the machine or the software.

I have now moved to using a faster RISC OS machine for the magazine work
though and that gains by being silent (not quiet), running cold (not just
warm) and small (2" x 4" x 6.5") though that's now old hat. Today's visit
(work!!) at the Show showed that small is not small enough and tomorrow's
machine will disappear entirely - but still run RISC OS.

And to find the answer to the ghost in the (non)machine you'll just have to
get yourself a copy of Qercus next month! ;-))

BTW Very good but *very* busy day.

-- 
	John Cartmell	john@finnybank.com	0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
	Qercus magazine	FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527		www.finnybank.com
	Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

"John Cartmell"  wrote in message 
news:4ee4df58c8john@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> The annual Wakefield RISC OS Computer Show has a new venue tomorrow 
> (Saturday
> 19th May):
>
> The Mill House & Frobisher Suite
> Stanley Ferry Marina
> Ferry Lane
> Stanley
> Wakefield
> WF3 4LT
>
> 10:30 to 17:00
>
> Very little is generally advertised about computer platforms other than
> Windows machines and standard PCs. This is your chance to add to that
> knowledge and see computer systems that were developed independently of
> Windows (apart from the ideas that Bill Gates nicked!) and hardware using
> significantly different processors - although designed for desktop 
> computers
> by Acorn you almost certainly own 2 or 3 of these processors yourself, 
> inside
> a mobile phone or Sat Nav for example.
>
> If you remember the Beebs (BBC A&B Computers, BBC Basic, the BBC Computer
> Literacy Project, The Domesday Project, &c) then that started over 25 
> years
> ago and there will be a stand at the show with 8-bit hardware to the fore.
>
> And there will be current RISC OS machines and software of course, 
> together
> with the latest RISC Operating System (RISC OS 6) released this month.
>
> If you do go then say 'hello' to me on the Qercus / Acorn User stand.
>
> -- 
> John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
> Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
> Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

Do I remember? I'll say, still having the nightmares.
My first task on joining Granada Microcare based at Kersley was pulling the
ARTHUR EPROMS from A3000s and eeplacing them with RISCos 2
A colleuge spent most of his time repairing the Phillips Laservision
machines that formed part of the Domesday kit. Help me out here,
I have totally forgotton what computer controlled it.

School visits were fun, the teaching staff would refer to their new
computer as "The CD-ROM" this was quite universal and probably
meant they were used solely as media players and not much programming
went on.

I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
to buy a 50Mhz PC

I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

In article <f2lcd7$2mu$1@news.datemas.de>,
   Graham  wrote:
> I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
> Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
> 486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
> to buy a 50Mhz PC

> I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
> those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

I'm not sure what you mean by plastic slices. I'm using a RiscPC here (though
I've never bothered making serious use of the Windows / PC card - and that
card was removed and dumped as soon as I realised its only function was to
heat up the room. The RiscPC is quite capable of producing first class work -
where it fouls up in producing a colour magazine (Qercus) it's through my lack
of competence - not the machine or the software.

I have now moved to using a faster RISC OS machine for the magazine work
though and that gains by being silent (not quiet), running cold (not just
warm) and small (2" x 4" x 6.5") though that's now old hat. Today's visit
(work!!) at the Show showed that small is not small enough and tomorrow's
machine will disappear entirely - but still run RISC OS.

And to find the answer to the ghost in the (non)machine you'll just have to
get yourself a copy of Qercus next month! ;-))

BTW Very good but *very* busy day.

-- 
	John Cartmell	john@finnybank.com	0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
	Qercus magazine	FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527		www.finnybank.com
	Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

> I'm not sure what you mean by plastic slices

Weren't the modular case components on the PC600 called "slices"?
They stacked up on top of each other the lower one housing the
MB and the others forming the drive bays etc.
They seemed to me to be made out of some sort of re-cycled
plastic and bits were apt to crumble and break off as you
worked on the machine. I am surprised any of them have survived.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

In article <f2nu7d$g75$1@news.datemas.de>,
   Graham  wrote:

> > I'm not sure what you mean by plastic slices

> Weren't the modular case components on the PC600 called "slices"?
> They stacked up on top of each other the lower one housing the
> MB and the others forming the drive bays etc.
> They seemed to me to be made out of some sort of re-cycled
> plastic and bits were apt to crumble and break off as you
> worked on the machine. I am surprised any of them have survived.

The only bit that seems to generally drop off is the lug for the spring for
the door. Mine - in my perfectly functioning 12 year old machine - hasn't. No
other bits have fallen off. No bitss have fallen off the other five RiscPCs in
this household - and the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th hand machines that I saw today on
the charity stall also seemed to be free of fallen off bits.

The plastic was of the same quality as that used to produce police riot
shields so your observation - and not the cases - appears to be wonky.

There are probably more RiscPCs that have survived than any other hardware of
that age - and many are still capable of being used for productive work.

One of Acorn's big problems is that they made machines to last and a system
with a long life-span. I added a new operating system to this RiscPC on
Wednesday - whilst I need to use a range of hardware options to do my job I
see no need to move many real-life tasks from this RiscPC. It does them better
and faster than on many other 'modern' alternative options.

-- 
	John Cartmell	john@finnybank.com	0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
	Qercus magazine	FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527		www.finnybank.com
	Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

"John Cartmell"  wrote in message 
news:4ee4df58c8john@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> The annual Wakefield RISC OS Computer Show has a new venue tomorrow 
> (Saturday
> 19th May):
>
> The Mill House & Frobisher Suite
> Stanley Ferry Marina
> Ferry Lane
> Stanley
> Wakefield
> WF3 4LT
>
> 10:30 to 17:00
>
> Very little is generally advertised about computer platforms other than
> Windows machines and standard PCs. This is your chance to add to that
> knowledge and see computer systems that were developed independently of
> Windows (apart from the ideas that Bill Gates nicked!) and hardware using
> significantly different processors - although designed for desktop 
> computers
> by Acorn you almost certainly own 2 or 3 of these processors yourself, 
> inside
> a mobile phone or Sat Nav for example.
>
> If you remember the Beebs (BBC A&B Computers, BBC Basic, the BBC Computer
> Literacy Project, The Domesday Project, &c) then that started over 25 
> years
> ago and there will be a stand at the show with 8-bit hardware to the fore.
>
> And there will be current RISC OS machines and software of course, 
> together
> with the latest RISC Operating System (RISC OS 6) released this month.
>
> If you do go then say 'hello' to me on the Qercus / Acorn User stand.
>
> -- 
> John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
> Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
> Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

Do I remember? I'll say, still having the nightmares.
My first task on joining Granada Microcare based at Kersley was pulling the
ARTHUR EPROMS from A3000s and eeplacing them with RISCos 2
A colleuge spent most of his time repairing the Phillips Laservision
machines that formed part of the Domesday kit. Help me out here,
I have totally forgotton what computer controlled it.

School visits were fun, the teaching staff would refer to their new
computer as "The CD-ROM" this was quite universal and probably
meant they were used solely as media players and not much programming
went on.

I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
to buy a 50Mhz PC

I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

In article <f2lcd7$2mu$1@news.datemas.de>,
   Graham  wrote:
> I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
> Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
> 486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
> to buy a 50Mhz PC

> I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
> those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

I'm not sure what you mean by plastic slices. I'm using a RiscPC here (though
I've never bothered making serious use of the Windows / PC card - and that
card was removed and dumped as soon as I realised its only function was to
heat up the room. The RiscPC is quite capable of producing first class work -
where it fouls up in producing a colour magazine (Qercus) it's through my lack
of competence - not the machine or the software.

I have now moved to using a faster RISC OS machine for the magazine work
though and that gains by being silent (not quiet), running cold (not just
warm) and small (2" x 4" x 6.5") though that's now old hat. Today's visit
(work!!) at the Show showed that small is not small enough and tomorrow's
machine will disappear entirely - but still run RISC OS.

And to find the answer to the ghost in the (non)machine you'll just have to
get yourself a copy of Qercus next month! ;-))

BTW Very good but *very* busy day.

-- 
	John Cartmell	john@finnybank.com	0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
	Qercus magazine	FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527		www.finnybank.com
	Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

> I'm not sure what you mean by plastic slices

Weren't the modular case components on the PC600 called "slices"?
They stacked up on top of each other the lower one housing the
MB and the others forming the drive bays etc.
They seemed to me to be made out of some sort of re-cycled
plastic and bits were apt to crumble and break off as you
worked on the machine. I am surprised any of them have survived.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

In article <f2nu7d$g75$1@news.datemas.de>,
   Graham  wrote:

> > I'm not sure what you mean by plastic slices

> Weren't the modular case components on the PC600 called "slices"?
> They stacked up on top of each other the lower one housing the
> MB and the others forming the drive bays etc.
> They seemed to me to be made out of some sort of re-cycled
> plastic and bits were apt to crumble and break off as you
> worked on the machine. I am surprised any of them have survived.

The only bit that seems to generally drop off is the lug for the spring for
the door. Mine - in my perfectly functioning 12 year old machine - hasn't. No
other bits have fallen off. No bitss have fallen off the other five RiscPCs in
this household - and the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th hand machines that I saw today on
the charity stall also seemed to be free of fallen off bits.

The plastic was of the same quality as that used to produce police riot
shields so your observation - and not the cases - appears to be wonky.

There are probably more RiscPCs that have survived than any other hardware of
that age - and many are still capable of being used for productive work.

One of Acorn's big problems is that they made machines to last and a system
with a long life-span. I added a new operating system to this RiscPC on
Wednesday - whilst I need to use a range of hardware options to do my job I
see no need to move many real-life tasks from this RiscPC. It does them better
and faster than on many other 'modern' alternative options.

-- 
	John Cartmell	john@finnybank.com	0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
	Qercus magazine	FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527		www.finnybank.com
	Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

"John Cartmell"  wrote in message 
news:4ee4df58c8john@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> The annual Wakefield RISC OS Computer Show has a new venue tomorrow 
> (Saturday
> 19th May):
>
> The Mill House & Frobisher Suite
> Stanley Ferry Marina
> Ferry Lane
> Stanley
> Wakefield
> WF3 4LT
>
> 10:30 to 17:00
>
> Very little is generally advertised about computer platforms other than
> Windows machines and standard PCs. This is your chance to add to that
> knowledge and see computer systems that were developed independently of
> Windows (apart from the ideas that Bill Gates nicked!) and hardware using
> significantly different processors - although designed for desktop 
> computers
> by Acorn you almost certainly own 2 or 3 of these processors yourself, 
> inside
> a mobile phone or Sat Nav for example.
>
> If you remember the Beebs (BBC A&B Computers, BBC Basic, the BBC Computer
> Literacy Project, The Domesday Project, &c) then that started over 25 
> years
> ago and there will be a stand at the show with 8-bit hardware to the fore.
>
> And there will be current RISC OS machines and software of course, 
> together
> with the latest RISC Operating System (RISC OS 6) released this month.
>
> If you do go then say 'hello' to me on the Qercus / Acorn User stand.
>
> -- 
> John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
> Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
> Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

Do I remember? I'll say, still having the nightmares.
My first task on joining Granada Microcare based at Kersley was pulling the
ARTHUR EPROMS from A3000s and eeplacing them with RISCos 2
A colleuge spent most of his time repairing the Phillips Laservision
machines that formed part of the Domesday kit. Help me out here,
I have totally forgotton what computer controlled it.

School visits were fun, the teaching staff would refer to their new
computer as "The CD-ROM" this was quite universal and probably
meant they were used solely as media players and not much programming
went on.

I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
to buy a 50Mhz PC

I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

In article <f2lcd7$2mu$1@news.datemas.de>,
   Graham  wrote:
> I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
> Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
> 486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
> to buy a 50Mhz PC

> I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
> those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

I'm not sure what you mean by plastic slices. I'm using a RiscPC here (though
I've never bothered making serious use of the Windows / PC card - and that
card was removed and dumped as soon as I realised its only function was to
heat up the room. The RiscPC is quite capable of producing first class work -
where it fouls up in producing a colour magazine (Qercus) it's through my lack
of competence - not the machine or the software.

I have now moved to using a faster RISC OS machine for the magazine work
though and that gains by being silent (not quiet), running cold (not just
warm) and small (2" x 4" x 6.5") though that's now old hat. Today's visit
(work!!) at the Show showed that small is not small enough and tomorrow's
machine will disappear entirely - but still run RISC OS.

And to find the answer to the ghost in the (non)machine you'll just have to
get yourself a copy of Qercus next month! ;-))

BTW Very good but *very* busy day.

-- 
	John Cartmell	john@finnybank.com	0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
	Qercus magazine	FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527		www.finnybank.com
	Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

> I'm not sure what you mean by plastic slices

Weren't the modular case components on the PC600 called "slices"?
They stacked up on top of each other the lower one housing the
MB and the others forming the drive bays etc.
They seemed to me to be made out of some sort of re-cycled
plastic and bits were apt to crumble and break off as you
worked on the machine. I am surprised any of them have survived.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

In article <f2nu7d$g75$1@news.datemas.de>,
   Graham  wrote:

> > I'm not sure what you mean by plastic slices

> Weren't the modular case components on the PC600 called "slices"?
> They stacked up on top of each other the lower one housing the
> MB and the others forming the drive bays etc.
> They seemed to me to be made out of some sort of re-cycled
> plastic and bits were apt to crumble and break off as you
> worked on the machine. I am surprised any of them have survived.

The only bit that seems to generally drop off is the lug for the spring for
the door. Mine - in my perfectly functioning 12 year old machine - hasn't. No
other bits have fallen off. No bitss have fallen off the other five RiscPCs in
this household - and the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th hand machines that I saw today on
the charity stall also seemed to be free of fallen off bits.

The plastic was of the same quality as that used to produce police riot
shields so your observation - and not the cases - appears to be wonky.

There are probably more RiscPCs that have survived than any other hardware of
that age - and many are still capable of being used for productive work.

One of Acorn's big problems is that they made machines to last and a system
with a long life-span. I added a new operating system to this RiscPC on
Wednesday - whilst I need to use a range of hardware options to do my job I
see no need to move many real-life tasks from this RiscPC. It does them better
and faster than on many other 'modern' alternative options.

-- 
	John Cartmell	john@finnybank.com	0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
	Qercus magazine	FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527		www.finnybank.com
	Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

"John Cartmell"  wrote in message 
news:4ee4df58c8john@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> The annual Wakefield RISC OS Computer Show has a new venue tomorrow 
> (Saturday
> 19th May):
>
> The Mill House & Frobisher Suite
> Stanley Ferry Marina
> Ferry Lane
> Stanley
> Wakefield
> WF3 4LT
>
> 10:30 to 17:00
>
> Very little is generally advertised about computer platforms other than
> Windows machines and standard PCs. This is your chance to add to that
> knowledge and see computer systems that were developed independently of
> Windows (apart from the ideas that Bill Gates nicked!) and hardware using
> significantly different processors - although designed for desktop 
> computers
> by Acorn you almost certainly own 2 or 3 of these processors yourself, 
> inside
> a mobile phone or Sat Nav for example.
>
> If you remember the Beebs (BBC A&B Computers, BBC Basic, the BBC Computer
> Literacy Project, The Domesday Project, &c) then that started over 25 
> years
> ago and there will be a stand at the show with 8-bit hardware to the fore.
>
> And there will be current RISC OS machines and software of course, 
> together
> with the latest RISC Operating System (RISC OS 6) released this month.
>
> If you do go then say 'hello' to me on the Qercus / Acorn User stand.
>
> -- 
> John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
> Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
> Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

Do I remember? I'll say, still having the nightmares.
My first task on joining Granada Microcare based at Kersley was pulling the
ARTHUR EPROMS from A3000s and eeplacing them with RISCos 2
A colleuge spent most of his time repairing the Phillips Laservision
machines that formed part of the Domesday kit. Help me out here,
I have totally forgotton what computer controlled it.

School visits were fun, the teaching staff would refer to their new
computer as "The CD-ROM" this was quite universal and probably
meant they were used solely as media players and not much programming
went on.

I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
to buy a 50Mhz PC

I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

In article <f2lcd7$2mu$1@news.datemas.de>,
   Graham  wrote:
> I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
> Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
> 486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
> to buy a 50Mhz PC

> I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
> those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

I'm not sure what you mean by plastic slices. I'm using a RiscPC here (though
I've never bothered making serious use of the Windows / PC card - and that
card was removed and dumped as soon as I realised its only function was to
heat up the room. The RiscPC is quite capable of producing first class work -
where it fouls up in producing a colour magazine (Qercus) it's through my lack
of competence - not the machine or the software.

I have now moved to using a faster RISC OS machine for the magazine work
though and that gains by being silent (not quiet), running cold (not just
warm) and small (2" x 4" x 6.5") though that's now old hat. Today's visit
(work!!) at the Show showed that small is not small enough and tomorrow's
machine will disappear entirely - but still run RISC OS.

And to find the answer to the ghost in the (non)machine you'll just have to
get yourself a copy of Qercus next month! ;-))

BTW Very good but *very* busy day.

-- 
	John Cartmell	john@finnybank.com	0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
	Qercus magazine	FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527		www.finnybank.com
	Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

> I'm not sure what you mean by plastic slices

Weren't the modular case components on the PC600 called "slices"?
They stacked up on top of each other the lower one housing the
MB and the others forming the drive bays etc.
They seemed to me to be made out of some sort of re-cycled
plastic and bits were apt to crumble and break off as you
worked on the machine. I am surprised any of them have survived.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

In article <f2nu7d$g75$1@news.datemas.de>,
   Graham  wrote:

> > I'm not sure what you mean by plastic slices

> Weren't the modular case components on the PC600 called "slices"?
> They stacked up on top of each other the lower one housing the
> MB and the others forming the drive bays etc.
> They seemed to me to be made out of some sort of re-cycled
> plastic and bits were apt to crumble and break off as you
> worked on the machine. I am surprised any of them have survived.

The only bit that seems to generally drop off is the lug for the spring for
the door. Mine - in my perfectly functioning 12 year old machine - hasn't. No
other bits have fallen off. No bitss have fallen off the other five RiscPCs in
this household - and the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th hand machines that I saw today on
the charity stall also seemed to be free of fallen off bits.

The plastic was of the same quality as that used to produce police riot
shields so your observation - and not the cases - appears to be wonky.

There are probably more RiscPCs that have survived than any other hardware of
that age - and many are still capable of being used for productive work.

One of Acorn's big problems is that they made machines to last and a system
with a long life-span. I added a new operating system to this RiscPC on
Wednesday - whilst I need to use a range of hardware options to do my job I
see no need to move many real-life tasks from this RiscPC. It does them better
and faster than on many other 'modern' alternative options.

-- 
	John Cartmell	john@finnybank.com	0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
	Qercus magazine	FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527		www.finnybank.com
	Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

"John Cartmell"  wrote in message 
news:4ee4df58c8john@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> The annual Wakefield RISC OS Computer Show has a new venue tomorrow 
> (Saturday
> 19th May):
>
> The Mill House & Frobisher Suite
> Stanley Ferry Marina
> Ferry Lane
> Stanley
> Wakefield
> WF3 4LT
>
> 10:30 to 17:00
>
> Very little is generally advertised about computer platforms other than
> Windows machines and standard PCs. This is your chance to add to that
> knowledge and see computer systems that were developed independently of
> Windows (apart from the ideas that Bill Gates nicked!) and hardware using
> significantly different processors - although designed for desktop 
> computers
> by Acorn you almost certainly own 2 or 3 of these processors yourself, 
> inside
> a mobile phone or Sat Nav for example.
>
> If you remember the Beebs (BBC A&B Computers, BBC Basic, the BBC Computer
> Literacy Project, The Domesday Project, &c) then that started over 25 
> years
> ago and there will be a stand at the show with 8-bit hardware to the fore.
>
> And there will be current RISC OS machines and software of course, 
> together
> with the latest RISC Operating System (RISC OS 6) released this month.
>
> If you do go then say 'hello' to me on the Qercus / Acorn User stand.
>
> -- 
> John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
> Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
> Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

Do I remember? I'll say, still having the nightmares.
My first task on joining Granada Microcare based at Kersley was pulling the
ARTHUR EPROMS from A3000s and eeplacing them with RISCos 2
A colleuge spent most of his time repairing the Phillips Laservision
machines that formed part of the Domesday kit. Help me out here,
I have totally forgotton what computer controlled it.

School visits were fun, the teaching staff would refer to their new
computer as "The CD-ROM" this was quite universal and probably
meant they were used solely as media players and not much programming
went on.

I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
to buy a 50Mhz PC

I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

In article <f2lcd7$2mu$1@news.datemas.de>,
   Graham  wrote:
> I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
> Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
> 486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
> to buy a 50Mhz PC

> I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
> those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

I'm not sure what you mean by plastic slices. I'm using a RiscPC here (though
I've never bothered making serious use of the Windows / PC card - and that
card was removed and dumped as soon as I realised its only function was to
heat up the room. The RiscPC is quite capable of producing first class work -
where it fouls up in producing a colour magazine (Qercus) it's through my lack
of competence - not the machine or the software.

I have now moved to using a faster RISC OS machine for the magazine work
though and that gains by being silent (not quiet), running cold (not just
warm) and small (2" x 4" x 6.5") though that's now old hat. Today's visit
(work!!) at the Show showed that small is not small enough and tomorrow's
machine will disappear entirely - but still run RISC OS.

And to find the answer to the ghost in the (non)machine you'll just have to
get yourself a copy of Qercus next month! ;-))

BTW Very good but *very* busy day.

-- 
	John Cartmell	john@finnybank.com	0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
	Qercus magazine	FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527		www.finnybank.com
	Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

> I'm not sure what you mean by plastic slices

Weren't the modular case components on the PC600 called "slices"?
They stacked up on top of each other the lower one housing the
MB and the others forming the drive bays etc.
They seemed to me to be made out of some sort of re-cycled
plastic and bits were apt to crumble and break off as you
worked on the machine. I am surprised any of them have survived.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

In article <f2nu7d$g75$1@news.datemas.de>,
   Graham  wrote:

> > I'm not sure what you mean by plastic slices

> Weren't the modular case components on the PC600 called "slices"?
> They stacked up on top of each other the lower one housing the
> MB and the others forming the drive bays etc.
> They seemed to me to be made out of some sort of re-cycled
> plastic and bits were apt to crumble and break off as you
> worked on the machine. I am surprised any of them have survived.

The only bit that seems to generally drop off is the lug for the spring for
the door. Mine - in my perfectly functioning 12 year old machine - hasn't. No
other bits have fallen off. No bitss have fallen off the other five RiscPCs in
this household - and the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th hand machines that I saw today on
the charity stall also seemed to be free of fallen off bits.

The plastic was of the same quality as that used to produce police riot
shields so your observation - and not the cases - appears to be wonky.

There are probably more RiscPCs that have survived than any other hardware of
that age - and many are still capable of being used for productive work.

One of Acorn's big problems is that they made machines to last and a system
with a long life-span. I added a new operating system to this RiscPC on
Wednesday - whilst I need to use a range of hardware options to do my job I
see no need to move many real-life tasks from this RiscPC. It does them better
and faster than on many other 'modern' alternative options.

-- 
	John Cartmell	john@finnybank.com	0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
	Qercus magazine	FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527		www.finnybank.com
	Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

"John Cartmell"  wrote in message 
news:4ee4df58c8john@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> The annual Wakefield RISC OS Computer Show has a new venue tomorrow 
> (Saturday
> 19th May):
>
> The Mill House & Frobisher Suite
> Stanley Ferry Marina
> Ferry Lane
> Stanley
> Wakefield
> WF3 4LT
>
> 10:30 to 17:00
>
> Very little is generally advertised about computer platforms other than
> Windows machines and standard PCs. This is your chance to add to that
> knowledge and see computer systems that were developed independently of
> Windows (apart from the ideas that Bill Gates nicked!) and hardware using
> significantly different processors - although designed for desktop 
> computers
> by Acorn you almost certainly own 2 or 3 of these processors yourself, 
> inside
> a mobile phone or Sat Nav for example.
>
> If you remember the Beebs (BBC A&B Computers, BBC Basic, the BBC Computer
> Literacy Project, The Domesday Project, &c) then that started over 25 
> years
> ago and there will be a stand at the show with 8-bit hardware to the fore.
>
> And there will be current RISC OS machines and software of course, 
> together
> with the latest RISC Operating System (RISC OS 6) released this month.
>
> If you do go then say 'hello' to me on the Qercus / Acorn User stand.
>
> -- 
> John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
> Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
> Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

Do I remember? I'll say, still having the nightmares.
My first task on joining Granada Microcare based at Kersley was pulling the
ARTHUR EPROMS from A3000s and eeplacing them with RISCos 2
A colleuge spent most of his time repairing the Phillips Laservision
machines that formed part of the Domesday kit. Help me out here,
I have totally forgotton what computer controlled it.

School visits were fun, the teaching staff would refer to their new
computer as "The CD-ROM" this was quite universal and probably
meant they were used solely as media players and not much programming
went on.

I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
to buy a 50Mhz PC

I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

In article <f2lcd7$2mu$1@news.datemas.de>,
   Graham  wrote:
> I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
> Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
> 486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
> to buy a 50Mhz PC

> I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
> those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

I'm not sure what you mean by plastic slices. I'm using a RiscPC here (though
I've never bothered making serious use of the Windows / PC card - and that
card was removed and dumped as soon as I realised its only function was to
heat up the room. The RiscPC is quite capable of producing first class work -
where it fouls up in producing a colour magazine (Qercus) it's through my lack
of competence - not the machine or the software.

I have now moved to using a faster RISC OS machine for the magazine work
though and that gains by being silent (not quiet), running cold (not just
warm) and small (2" x 4" x 6.5") though that's now old hat. Today's visit
(work!!) at the Show showed that small is not small enough and tomorrow's
machine will disappear entirely - but still run RISC OS.

And to find the answer to the ghost in the (non)machine you'll just have to
get yourself a copy of Qercus next month! ;-))

BTW Very good but *very* busy day.

-- 
	John Cartmell	john@finnybank.com	0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
	Qercus magazine	FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527		www.finnybank.com
	Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

> I'm not sure what you mean by plastic slices

Weren't the modular case components on the PC600 called "slices"?
They stacked up on top of each other the lower one housing the
MB and the others forming the drive bays etc.
They seemed to me to be made out of some sort of re-cycled
plastic and bits were apt to crumble and break off as you
worked on the machine. I am surprised any of them have survived.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

In article <f2nu7d$g75$1@news.datemas.de>,
   Graham  wrote:

> > I'm not sure what you mean by plastic slices

> Weren't the modular case components on the PC600 called "slices"?
> They stacked up on top of each other the lower one housing the
> MB and the others forming the drive bays etc.
> They seemed to me to be made out of some sort of re-cycled
> plastic and bits were apt to crumble and break off as you
> worked on the machine. I am surprised any of them have survived.

The only bit that seems to generally drop off is the lug for the spring for
the door. Mine - in my perfectly functioning 12 year old machine - hasn't. No
other bits have fallen off. No bitss have fallen off the other five RiscPCs in
this household - and the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th hand machines that I saw today on
the charity stall also seemed to be free of fallen off bits.

The plastic was of the same quality as that used to produce police riot
shields so your observation - and not the cases - appears to be wonky.

There are probably more RiscPCs that have survived than any other hardware of
that age - and many are still capable of being used for productive work.

One of Acorn's big problems is that they made machines to last and a system
with a long life-span. I added a new operating system to this RiscPC on
Wednesday - whilst I need to use a range of hardware options to do my job I
see no need to move many real-life tasks from this RiscPC. It does them better
and faster than on many other 'modern' alternative options.

-- 
	John Cartmell	john@finnybank.com	0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
	Qercus magazine	FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527		www.finnybank.com
	Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

"John Cartmell"  wrote in message 
news:4ee4df58c8john@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> The annual Wakefield RISC OS Computer Show has a new venue tomorrow 
> (Saturday
> 19th May):
>
> The Mill House & Frobisher Suite
> Stanley Ferry Marina
> Ferry Lane
> Stanley
> Wakefield
> WF3 4LT
>
> 10:30 to 17:00
>
> Very little is generally advertised about computer platforms other than
> Windows machines and standard PCs. This is your chance to add to that
> knowledge and see computer systems that were developed independently of
> Windows (apart from the ideas that Bill Gates nicked!) and hardware using
> significantly different processors - although designed for desktop 
> computers
> by Acorn you almost certainly own 2 or 3 of these processors yourself, 
> inside
> a mobile phone or Sat Nav for example.
>
> If you remember the Beebs (BBC A&B Computers, BBC Basic, the BBC Computer
> Literacy Project, The Domesday Project, &c) then that started over 25 
> years
> ago and there will be a stand at the show with 8-bit hardware to the fore.
>
> And there will be current RISC OS machines and software of course, 
> together
> with the latest RISC Operating System (RISC OS 6) released this month.
>
> If you do go then say 'hello' to me on the Qercus / Acorn User stand.
>
> -- 
> John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
> Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
> Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

Do I remember? I'll say, still having the nightmares.
My first task on joining Granada Microcare based at Kersley was pulling the
ARTHUR EPROMS from A3000s and eeplacing them with RISCos 2
A colleuge spent most of his time repairing the Phillips Laservision
machines that formed part of the Domesday kit. Help me out here,
I have totally forgotton what computer controlled it.

School visits were fun, the teaching staff would refer to their new
computer as "The CD-ROM" this was quite universal and probably
meant they were used solely as media players and not much programming
went on.

I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
to buy a 50Mhz PC

I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

In article <f2lcd7$2mu$1@news.datemas.de>,
   Graham  wrote:
> I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
> Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
> 486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
> to buy a 50Mhz PC

> I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
> those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

I'm not sure what you mean by plastic slices. I'm using a RiscPC here (though
I've never bothered making serious use of the Windows / PC card - and that
card was removed and dumped as soon as I realised its only function was to
heat up the room. The RiscPC is quite capable of producing first class work -
where it fouls up in producing a colour magazine (Qercus) it's through my lack
of competence - not the machine or the software.

I have now moved to using a faster RISC OS machine for the magazine work
though and that gains by being silent (not quiet), running cold (not just
warm) and small (2" x 4" x 6.5") though that's now old hat. Today's visit
(work!!) at the Show showed that small is not small enough and tomorrow's
machine will disappear entirely - but still run RISC OS.

And to find the answer to the ghost in the (non)machine you'll just have to
get yourself a copy of Qercus next month! ;-))

BTW Very good but *very* busy day.

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	John Cartmell	john@finnybank.com	0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
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	Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

> I'm not sure what you mean by plastic slices

Weren't the modular case components on the PC600 called "slices"?
They stacked up on top of each other the lower one housing the
MB and the others forming the drive bays etc.
They seemed to me to be made out of some sort of re-cycled
plastic and bits were apt to crumble and break off as you
worked on the machine. I am surprised any of them have survived.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

In article <f2nu7d$g75$1@news.datemas.de>,
   Graham  wrote:

> > I'm not sure what you mean by plastic slices

> Weren't the modular case components on the PC600 called "slices"?
> They stacked up on top of each other the lower one housing the
> MB and the others forming the drive bays etc.
> They seemed to me to be made out of some sort of re-cycled
> plastic and bits were apt to crumble and break off as you
> worked on the machine. I am surprised any of them have survived.

The only bit that seems to generally drop off is the lug for the spring for
the door. Mine - in my perfectly functioning 12 year old machine - hasn't. No
other bits have fallen off. No bitss have fallen off the other five RiscPCs in
this household - and the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th hand machines that I saw today on
the charity stall also seemed to be free of fallen off bits.

The plastic was of the same quality as that used to produce police riot
shields so your observation - and not the cases - appears to be wonky.

There are probably more RiscPCs that have survived than any other hardware of
that age - and many are still capable of being used for productive work.

One of Acorn's big problems is that they made machines to last and a system
with a long life-span. I added a new operating system to this RiscPC on
Wednesday - whilst I need to use a range of hardware options to do my job I
see no need to move many real-life tasks from this RiscPC. It does them better
and faster than on many other 'modern' alternative options.

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	John Cartmell	john@finnybank.com	0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
	Qercus magazine	FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527		www.finnybank.com
	Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

"John Cartmell"  wrote in message 
news:4ee4df58c8john@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> The annual Wakefield RISC OS Computer Show has a new venue tomorrow 
> (Saturday
> 19th May):
>
> The Mill House & Frobisher Suite
> Stanley Ferry Marina
> Ferry Lane
> Stanley
> Wakefield
> WF3 4LT
>
> 10:30 to 17:00
>
> Very little is generally advertised about computer platforms other than
> Windows machines and standard PCs. This is your chance to add to that
> knowledge and see computer systems that were developed independently of
> Windows (apart from the ideas that Bill Gates nicked!) and hardware using
> significantly different processors - although designed for desktop 
> computers
> by Acorn you almost certainly own 2 or 3 of these processors yourself, 
> inside
> a mobile phone or Sat Nav for example.
>
> If you remember the Beebs (BBC A&B Computers, BBC Basic, the BBC Computer
> Literacy Project, The Domesday Project, &c) then that started over 25 
> years
> ago and there will be a stand at the show with 8-bit hardware to the fore.
>
> And there will be current RISC OS machines and software of course, 
> together
> with the latest RISC Operating System (RISC OS 6) released this month.
>
> If you do go then say 'hello' to me on the Qercus / Acorn User stand.
>
> -- 
> John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820
> Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
> Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

Do I remember? I'll say, still having the nightmares.
My first task on joining Granada Microcare based at Kersley was pulling the
ARTHUR EPROMS from A3000s and eeplacing them with RISCos 2
A colleuge spent most of his time repairing the Phillips Laservision
machines that formed part of the Domesday kit. Help me out here,
I have totally forgotton what computer controlled it.

School visits were fun, the teaching staff would refer to their new
computer as "The CD-ROM" this was quite universal and probably
meant they were used solely as media players and not much programming
went on.

I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
to buy a 50Mhz PC

I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
those plastic slices were crumbling away even back then.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

In article <f2lcd7$2mu$1@news.datemas.de>,
   Graham  wrote:
> I could never quite understand the PC600 brigade though.
> Espessially those that ran Windows 3.1 using the optional
> 486 second processer. Must have been an expensive way
> to buy a 50Mhz PC

> I suppose they all succumbed to IBM/Microsoft in the end,
> those plastic slices were crumbling away even back