I'm sure that I am not the first to wonder about this, but we have some
pretty good public schools around us but we currently have our little man at
home and are wondering about whether or not we will want to send our Little
Man out, keep him in, or send him to a private school (I went to a Catholic
school for years).

Any thoughts?

SafeEarthSafeChild wrote:

> I'm sure that I am not the first to wonder about this, but we have some
> pretty good public schools around us but we currently have our little man at
> home and are wondering about whether or not we will want to send our Little
> Man out, keep him in, or send him to a private school (I went to a Catholic
> school for years).

Nobody can make that decision for you. The first thing you will want to 
consider is why you are homeschooling him. Can you accomplish your 
purpose better by keeping him home than by sending him to public or 
private school?

Tuesday, the 14th of August, 2007

SafeEarthSafeChild wrote:
   I'm sure that I am not the first to wonder about this, but we have some
   pretty good public schools around us but we currently have our little 
man at
   home and are wondering about whether or not we will want to send our 
Little
   Man out, keep him in, or send him to a private school (I went to a 
Catholic
   school for years).

   Any thoughts?

I went to public schools for years. Made lots of A's.
I was valedictorian of a large high school class. My wife and
chose to homeschool because we thought we could do
transfinitely better teaching our own children than the
public schools could ever do. As measured by subjects covered,
books read, and with a smaller amount of time per day spent
on "school" by our children. Our children are now 17, 15, and
8. The 17-year-old finished calculus in math two years ago,
has read probably 30 times more books than I ever had to read
for school, can read novels in Spanish, and is taking
ordinary college classes in writing and Japanese at present.
So, *our* reason for homeschooling is that we don't think that
there is any such thing as "pretty good public schools". Or
private schools for that matter.

But I also can report after 12 years of homeschooling our children
that it has made the life of our family simply transfinitely better
than ever was my experience of family life growing up in the 60s
and 70s, where school ate up 40-50 hours a week, and "family
time" was sitting around a television set.

I wouldn't recommend homeschooling as an option, though, to
anyone who isn't absolutely committed to doing it.

                   Mike Morris
             (msmorris@netdirect.net)

SafeEarthSafeChild wrote:

> I'm sure that I am not the first to wonder about this, but we have some
> pretty good public schools around us but we currently have our little man at
> home and are wondering about whether or not we will want to send our Little
> Man out, keep him in, or send him to a private school (I went to a Catholic
> school for years).

Nobody can make that decision for you. The first thing you will want to 
consider is why you are homeschooling him. Can you accomplish your 
purpose better by keeping him home than by sending him to public or 
private school?

Tuesday, the 14th of August, 2007

SafeEarthSafeChild wrote:
   I'm sure that I am not the first to wonder about this, but we have some
   pretty good public schools around us but we currently have our little 
man at
   home and are wondering about whether or not we will want to send our 
Little
   Man out, keep him in, or send him to a private school (I went to a 
Catholic
   school for years).

   Any thoughts?

I went to public schools for years. Made lots of A's.
I was valedictorian of a large high school class. My wife and
chose to homeschool because we thought we could do
transfinitely better teaching our own children than the
public schools could ever do. As measured by subjects covered,
books read, and with a smaller amount of time per day spent
on "school" by our children. Our children are now 17, 15, and
8. The 17-year-old finished calculus in math two years ago,
has read probably 30 times more books than I ever had to read
for school, can read novels in Spanish, and is taking
ordinary college classes in writing and Japanese at present.
So, *our* reason for homeschooling is that we don't think that
there is any such thing as "pretty good public schools". Or
private schools for that matter.

But I also can report after 12 years of homeschooling our children
that it has made the life of our family simply transfinitely better
than ever was my experience of family life growing up in the 60s
and 70s, where school ate up 40-50 hours a week, and "family
time" was sitting around a television set.

I wouldn't recommend homeschooling as an option, though, to
anyone who isn't absolutely committed to doing it.

                   Mike Morris
             (msmorris@netdirect.net)

SafeEarthSafeChild wrote:

> I'm sure that I am not the first to wonder about this, but we have some
> pretty good public schools around us but we currently have our little man at
> home and are wondering about whether or not we will want to send our Little
> Man out, keep him in, or send him to a private school (I went to a Catholic
> school for years).

Nobody can make that decision for you. The first thing you will want to 
consider is why you are homeschooling him. Can you accomplish your 
purpose better by keeping him home than by sending him to public or 
private school?

Tuesday, the 14th of August, 2007

SafeEarthSafeChild wrote:
   I'm sure that I am not the first to wonder about this, but we have some
   pretty good public schools around us but we currently have our little 
man at
   home and are wondering about whether or not we will want to send our 
Little
   Man out, keep him in, or send him to a private school (I went to a 
Catholic
   school for years).

   Any thoughts?

I went to public schools for years. Made lots of A's.
I was valedictorian of a large high school class. My wife and
chose to homeschool because we thought we could do
transfinitely better teaching our own children than the
public schools could ever do. As measured by subjects covered,
books read, and with a smaller amount of time per day spent
on "school" by our children. Our children are now 17, 15, and
8. The 17-year-old finished calculus in math two years ago,
has read probably 30 times more books than I ever had to read
for school, can read novels in Spanish, and is taking
ordinary college classes in writing and Japanese at present.
So, *our* reason for homeschooling is that we don't think that
there is any such thing as "pretty good public schools". Or
private schools for that matter.

But I also can report after 12 years of homeschooling our children
that it has made the life of our family simply transfinitely better
than ever was my experience of family life growing up in the 60s
and 70s, where school ate up 40-50 hours a week, and "family
time" was sitting around a television set.

I wouldn't recommend homeschooling as an option, though, to
anyone who isn't absolutely committed to doing it.

                   Mike Morris
             (msmorris@netdirect.net)

SafeEarthSafeChild wrote:

> I'm sure that I am not the first to wonder about this, but we have some
> pretty good public schools around us but we currently have our little man at
> home and are wondering about whether or not we will want to send our Little
> Man out, keep him in, or send him to a private school (I went to a Catholic
> school for years).

Nobody can make that decision for you. The first thing you will want to 
consider is why you are homeschooling him. Can you accomplish your 
purpose better by keeping him home than by sending him to public or 
private school?

Tuesday, the 14th of August, 2007

SafeEarthSafeChild wrote:
   I'm sure that I am not the first to wonder about this, but we have some
   pretty good public schools around us but we currently have our little 
man at
   home and are wondering about whether or not we will want to send our 
Little
   Man out, keep him in, or send him to a private school (I went to a 
Catholic
   school for years).

   Any thoughts?

I went to public schools for years. Made lots of A's.
I was valedictorian of a large high school class. My wife and
chose to homeschool because we thought we could do
transfinitely better teaching our own children than the
public schools could ever do. As measured by subjects covered,
books read, and with a smaller amount of time per day spent
on "school" by our children. Our children are now 17, 15, and
8. The 17-year-old finished calculus in math two years ago,
has read probably 30 times more books than I ever had to read
for school, can read novels in Spanish, and is taking
ordinary college classes in writing and Japanese at present.
So, *our* reason for homeschooling is that we don't think that
there is any such thing as "pretty good public schools". Or
private schools for that matter.

But I also can report after 12 years of homeschooling our children
that it has made the life of our family simply transfinitely better
than ever was my experience of family life growing up in the 60s
and 70s, where school ate up 40-50 hours a week, and "family
time" was sitting around a television set.

I wouldn't recommend homeschooling as an option, though, to
anyone who isn't absolutely committed to doing it.

                   Mike Morris
             (msmorris@netdirect.net)

"SafeEarthSafeChild"  wrote:

> I'm sure that I am not the first to wonder about this, but we have some
> pretty good public schools around us but we currently have our little man 
> at
> home and are wondering about whether or not we will want to send our 
> Little
> Man out, keep him in, or send him to a private school (I went to a 
> Catholic
> school for years).
>
> Any thoughts?

Fundamentalist homeskoolas don't have thoughts.

-- 
"We're Christians! We're not supposed to think!" Fanny Wype ("Nudist Colony 
Of The Dead")

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

HOMESKOOL MORONS USING THE HOMESCHOOL CRAP BELOW TO INDOCRINATE THEIR 
CHILDREN IS A FORM OF CHILD ABUSE.


>Bob Jones University Press


BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BJU Accreditation Through TRACS
Bob Jones University is a member of the Transnational Association of
Christian Colleges and Schools (TRACS) [PO Box 328, Forest, VA 24551;
Telephone: 434.525.9539; email: i...@tracs.org] having been awarded
Candidate status as a Category IV institution by the TRACS Accreditation
Commission on April 6, 2005; this status is effective for a period of five
years.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


This actually doesn't mean much.  Bob Jones Uni is a fundamentalist
creationist ratbag factory.  I quote from their associated site
..... http://www.itib.org/


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Testimony To An Infallable Bible


The church today is contending against an enemy-one cloaked in the guise of
truth and relevance. Ecumenical alliances sound the siren song of unity,
which in itself is desirable and biblical but frequently sacrifices biblical
fidelity to reach that end. The emotionalism so prevalent in modern churches
produces much heat but all too often neglects the light of God's Word. The
secular world, with its seductive refrain of "tolerance" presents itself as
compatible with biblical Christianity. The resurgence of Neo-Paganism and
New Age ideologies promises greater peace and power, yet only echoes the
age-old hollow promises Satan made to Eve. Now, more than ever, it is time
to proclaim the profound differences between the counterfeits and the
eternal truth of God's Word. This is what the International Testimony to an
Infallible Bible (or "ITIB") is all about.


The ITIB started a number of years ago when several men were having dinner
together while attending Bible Conference at Bob Jones University. In the
course of the conversation, someone mentioned how timely it would be to have
a congress which Fundamentalists from around the world could attend to
receive inspiration, instruction, encouragement, and fellowship. A committee
was formed, and in June of 1976 the World Congress of Fundamentalists was
held in Edinburgh, Scotland. It was intended to be a one-time affair;
however, those who attended were so encouraged and blessed they requested
that another such meeting be held.


Since that date over sixteen congresses (whether global or regional in
scope) have been sponsored by the ITIB. The global or World Congresses are
held about every ten years, while regional congresses are held every year or
two in different locations around the globe.


The ITIB is co-chaired by Dr. Ian Paisley (member of the European
Parliament; Pastor of Martyrs Memorial Free Presbyterian Church, Belfast,
Northern Ireland) and Dr. Bob Jones III (President of Bob Jones University,
Greenville, South Carolina, USA). The ITIB Committee is comprised of both
ministers and laymen who meet occasionally to help guide the direction of
the ITIB. Encouraging fidelity to the Bible is their overriding concern for
the ITIB.


It is amazing how far error, posing as truth, has advanced, taking control
of so many churches and Christian institutions throughout the world. It is
our prayer that the truth of biblical separation from all error, when
understood and practiced by the pastors around the world, will reveal the
dark and dangerous situation in which the church finds itself today.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


BWHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!  What ratbaggery!!!!!!


There are many such "universities" in the USA and their "degrees" have no
worth in Australia whatsoever!



>A Beka Book


BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

###########################################################


http://chronicle.com/weekly/v52/i29/29a04001.htm
From the issue dated March 24, 2006


A College That's Strictly Different


Secretive Pensacola Christian controls student life with tough regulations
and unwritten rules


By THOMAS BARTLETT


Pensacola, Fla.


....


Pensacola Christian College prides itself on being different, not just from
secular colleges, but from fellow Christian ones, too.


......


Lisa Morris was walking to class with her boyfriend last October when
something happened. At first Ms. Morris, a sophomore music major, is
reluctant to divulge the details. Eventually, however, the truth comes out:
He patted her behind.


Someone who witnessed the incident reported Ms. Morris and her boyfriend. At
Pensacola any physical contact between members of the opposite sex is
forbidden. (Members of the same sex may touch, although the college condemns
homosexuality.) The forbidden contact includes shaking hands and definitely
includes patting behinds. Both students were expelled.


.....


Even couples who are not talking or touching can be reprimanded. Sabrina
Poirier, a student at Pensacola who withdrew in 1997, was disciplined for
what is known on the campus as "optical intercourse" - staring too intently
into the eyes of a member of the opposite sex. This is also referred to as
"making eye babies." While the rule does not appear in written form, most
students interviewed for this article were familiar with the concept.


......


There are plenty of other ways to run afoul of the rules. Last spring
Timothy Dow was caught playing the video game Halo 2. Such games are banned
by the college. Movies are also forbidden, including those rated G. Music is
restricted to classical or approved Christian ("contemporary Christian"
artists are deemed too worldly). Students are allowed to watch television
news at 6 o'clock, but that's it. The TVs are controlled by college
employees, who flip a switch to black out the commercials, lest students see
anything inappropriate.


In the library, books and magazines are censored. One student says she saw a
pair of black-marker boxer shorts on a photograph of Michelangelo's David.
Any books that students wish to read that are not in the library must first
be approved by administrators. Those containing references to "magic," for
instance, are normally rejected. The rule book specifically prohibits
"fleshly magazines and books."


.......


Along with the college, Mr. Horton founded A Beka Books, acknowledged as the
largest Christian-textbook company in the world. A Beka sells textbooks to
more than 10,000 Christian schools across the country, offering a complete
curriculum for kindergarten through 12th grade. It has also won a big share
of the lucrative home-school market.


The company brings in about $70-million in annual revenue and is valued at
$280-million, according to Dun & Bradstreet. A sizable chunk of that revenue
goes to support the college, which does not come close to breaking even on
its own. According to its 2003 tax filing, the university collected
$20-million in tuition and fees and $3-million from contributions. The
filing attributes $15-million in income to "royalties," presumably from A
Beka.


In the mid-90s, A Beka paid nearly $50-million in back taxes after the
Internal Revenue Service ruled that it should have been classified as a
for-profit entity. The college itself remains nonprofit.


Revenue from A Beka helps keep costs extremely low. Students pay $6,000 a
year for tuition, room, and board. That's about a third or a quarter of what
most other Christian colleges cost. When asked what other colleges they
considered, Pensacola students often mention Bob Jones, Cedarville
University, Northland Baptist Bible College, and Abilene Christian
University. Cost is usually cited as the deciding factor.


Just as the textbook company helps support the college, the college helps
support the textbook company. Many of Pensacola's students work for A Beka,
operating binding equipment, packing books into boxes, loading those boxes
onto forklifts. Some students complain about the working conditions; others
say it's a good deal. For women, A Beka is usually the only employment
option because they are not allowed to hold off-campus jobs. Or leave the
campus alone, for that matter.


In the world of Christian colleges, Pensacola is an oddity. It is not a
member of the Council for Christian Colleges and Universities. It has little
to do with other institutions. Several administrators at other Christian
colleges declined to discuss Pensacola on the record for fear of seeming
critical. One said he did not know enough to speak knowledgeably because
Pensacola keeps mostly to itself.


While not wanting to criticize Pensacola, Carl A. Ruby, vice president for
student life at Cedarville, in Ohio, emphasizes that his university doesn't
take the "bad-kid approach" to discipline. "On major issues of Christian
doctrine, we are probably always on the same page," he writes in an e-mail
message. "In terms of living out our faith on a daily basis, significant
differences emerge."


.....


Creationism is taught in science courses.


.....


Several previously unaccredited Christian colleges, like Bob Jones, have
recently become candidates for accreditation. Pensacola, however, has shown
no interest in outside approval of any kind. Nor does it advertise its
unaccredited status. A search of the Web site turns up no mention of
accreditation. It is not mentioned in the college's viewbook either, which
dedicates four pages to sports activities and two to campus facilities.


.....


Lack of accreditation has been a problem for Amy Brown, too. She graduated
from Pensacola in 2003 with a degree in early-childhood education. But
because the college is not accredited, she cannot teach in public schools,
she says. She had no idea what accreditation was before enrolling at
Pensacola. "I never tried to transfer," she writes in an e-mail message,
"because I had friends that did and ended up with all of their credits as
electives," meaning that they had to retake required courses.


Mr. Ghobrial, the student from Egypt who doesn't mind the rules, wants to
attend dental school. His first choice, West Virginia University, has
already said it would not consider his application, because Pensacola is not
accredited. "I'm hoping they change their minds," he says.


Many Christian colleges do accept Pensacola's credits, as do some secular
institutions. Several former students say they have had no difficulty
transferring credits or applying for jobs. But others have. And as more
states crack down on degrees from unaccredited colleges, it may get even
tougher for Pensacola graduates.


.....


http://chronicle.com
Section: Students
Volume 52, Issue 29, Page A40


############################################################


Robinson Self-Teaching Home School Curriculum


- TOTALLY dependent upon good literacy skills to begin with.
- Lock-step without any deviation from the program.
- 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica used - outdated and too complicated for
younger readers
- 1913 Webster's Dictionary used - outdated and too complicated for younger
readers
- Science texts instead of hands on experimentation and disvcovery learning.
- Original King James Version of the Bible - outdated and language too
complicated for any child of any age
-Phonics only without the addition of  whole language approach, etc.
- Claims to be "self-teaching" but pupils require interaction with at least
one other person - a teacher.


This "box:" is the lazy person's way of homeschooling and not worth the
money you will outlay for it.


Visit the utter shite at
http://www.robinsoncurriculum.com/view/rc/s31p45.htm


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

HOMESKOOL MORONS USING THE ABOVE CRAP TO INDOCRINATE THEIR CHILDREN IS A
FORM OF CHILD ABUSE.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

MEHSC HOMEPAGE - The Original and Best!  http://mehsc.blogspot.com/

Maintained by

Professor Michelle S. Morris
Fizzix Lecturer & Fonix Tutor
Butter Homeskool Uni
C/- Kitchen Table
Home
Bible Belt USA

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

SafeEarthSafeChild wrote:

> I'm sure that I am not the first to wonder about this, but we have some
> pretty good public schools around us but we currently have our little man at
> home and are wondering about whether or not we will want to send our Little
> Man out, keep him in, or send him to a private school (I went to a Catholic
> school for years).

Nobody can make that decision for you. The first thing you will want to 
consider is why you are homeschooling him. Can you accomplish your 
purpose better by keeping him home than by sending him to public or 
private school?

Tuesday, the 14th of August, 2007

SafeEarthSafeChild wrote:
   I'm sure that I am not the first to wonder about this, but we have some
   pretty good public schools around us but we currently have our little 
man at
   home and are wondering about whether or not we will want to send our 
Little
   Man out, keep him in, or send him to a private school (I went to a 
Catholic
   school for years).

   Any thoughts?

I went to public schools for years. Made lots of A's.
I was valedictorian of a large high school class. My wife and
chose to homeschool because we thought we could do
transfinitely better teaching our own children than the
public schools could ever do. As measured by subjects covered,
books read, and with a smaller amount of time per day spent
on "school" by our children. Our children are now 17, 15, and
8. The 17-year-old finished calculus in math two years ago,
has read probably 30 times more books than I ever had to read
for school, can read novels in Spanish, and is taking
ordinary college classes in writing and Japanese at present.
So, *our* reason for homeschooling is that we don't think that
there is any such thing as "pretty good public schools". Or
private schools for that matter.

But I also can report after 12 years of homeschooling our children
that it has made the life of our family simply transfinitely better
than ever was my experience of family life growing up in the 60s
and 70s, where school ate up 40-50 hours a week, and "family
time" was sitting around a television set.

I wouldn't recommend homeschooling as an option, though, to
anyone who isn't absolutely committed to doing it.

                   Mike Morris
             (msmorris@netdirect.net)

"SafeEarthSafeChild"  wrote:

> I'm sure that I am not the first to wonder about this, but we have some
> pretty good public schools around us but we currently have our little man 
> at
> home and are wondering about whether or not we will want to send our 
> Little
> Man out, keep him in, or send him to a private school (I went to a 
> Catholic
> school for years).
>
> Any thoughts?

Fundamentalist homeskoolas don't have thoughts.

-- 
"We're Christians! We're not supposed to think!" Fanny Wype ("Nudist Colony 
Of The Dead")

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

HOMESKOOL MORONS USING THE HOMESCHOOL CRAP BELOW TO INDOCRINATE THEIR 
CHILDREN IS A FORM OF CHILD ABUSE.


>Bob Jones University Press


BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BJU Accreditation Through TRACS
Bob Jones University is a member of the Transnational Association of
Christian Colleges and Schools (TRACS) [PO Box 328, Forest, VA 24551;
Telephone: 434.525.9539; email: i...@tracs.org] having been awarded
Candidate status as a Category IV institution by the TRACS Accreditation
Commission on April 6, 2005; this status is effective for a period of five
years.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


This actually doesn't mean much.  Bob Jones Uni is a fundamentalist
creationist ratbag factory.  I quote from their associated site
..... http://www.itib.org/


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Testimony To An Infallable Bible


The church today is contending against an enemy-one cloaked in the guise of
truth and relevance. Ecumenical alliances sound the siren song of unity,
which in itself is desirable and biblical but frequently sacrifices biblical
fidelity to reach that end. The emotionalism so prevalent in modern churches
produces much heat but all too often neglects the light of God's Word. The
secular world, with its seductive refrain of "tolerance" presents itself as
compatible with biblical Christianity. The resurgence of Neo-Paganism and
New Age ideologies promises greater peace and power, yet only echoes the
age-old hollow promises Satan made to Eve. Now, more than ever, it is time
to proclaim the profound differences between the counterfeits and the
eternal truth of God's Word. This is what the International Testimony to an
Infallible Bible (or "ITIB") is all about.


The ITIB started a number of years ago when several men were having dinner
together while attending Bible Conference at Bob Jones University. In the
course of the conversation, someone mentioned how timely it would be to have
a congress which Fundamentalists from around the world could attend to
receive inspiration, instruction, encouragement, and fellowship. A committee
was formed, and in June of 1976 the World Congress of Fundamentalists was
held in Edinburgh, Scotland. It was intended to be a one-time affair;
however, those who attended were so encouraged and blessed they requested
that another such meeting be held.


Since that date over sixteen congresses (whether global or regional in
scope) have been sponsored by the ITIB. The global or World Congresses are
held about every ten years, while regional congresses are held every year or
two in different locations around the globe.


The ITIB is co-chaired by Dr. Ian Paisley (member of the European
Parliament; Pastor of Martyrs Memorial Free Presbyterian Church, Belfast,
Northern Ireland) and Dr. Bob Jones III (President of Bob Jones University,
Greenville, South Carolina, USA). The ITIB Committee is comprised of both
ministers and laymen who meet occasionally to help guide the direction of
the ITIB. Encouraging fidelity to the Bible is their overriding concern for
the ITIB.


It is amazing how far error, posing as truth, has advanced, taking control
of so many churches and Christian institutions throughout the world. It is
our prayer that the truth of biblical separation from all error, when
understood and practiced by the pastors around the world, will reveal the
dark and dangerous situation in which the church finds itself today.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


BWHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!  What ratbaggery!!!!!!


There are many such "universities" in the USA and their "degrees" have no
worth in Australia whatsoever!



>A Beka Book


BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

###########################################################


http://chronicle.com/weekly/v52/i29/29a04001.htm
From the issue dated March 24, 2006


A College That's Strictly Different


Secretive Pensacola Christian controls student life with tough regulations
and unwritten rules


By THOMAS BARTLETT


Pensacola, Fla.


....


Pensacola Christian College prides itself on being different, not just from
secular colleges, but from fellow Christian ones, too.


......


Lisa Morris was walking to class with her boyfriend last October when
something happened. At first Ms. Morris, a sophomore music major, is
reluctant to divulge the details. Eventually, however, the truth comes out:
He patted her behind.


Someone who witnessed the incident reported Ms. Morris and her boyfriend. At
Pensacola any physical contact between members of the opposite sex is
forbidden. (Members of the same sex may touch, although the college condemns
homosexuality.) The forbidden contact includes shaking hands and definitely
includes patting behinds. Both students were expelled.


.....


Even couples who are not talking or touching can be reprimanded. Sabrina
Poirier, a student at Pensacola who withdrew in 1997, was disciplined for
what is known on the campus as "optical intercourse" - staring too intently
into the eyes of a member of the opposite sex. This is also referred to as
"making eye babies." While the rule does not appear in written form, most
students interviewed for this article were familiar with the concept.


......


There are plenty of other ways to run afoul of the rules. Last spring
Timothy Dow was caught playing the video game Halo 2. Such games are banned
by the college. Movies are also forbidden, including those rated G. Music is
restricted to classical or approved Christian ("contemporary Christian"
artists are deemed too worldly). Students are allowed to watch television
news at 6 o'clock, but that's it. The TVs are controlled by college
employees, who flip a switch to black out the commercials, lest students see
anything inappropriate.


In the library, books and magazines are censored. One student says she saw a
pair of black-marker boxer shorts on a photograph of Michelangelo's David.
Any books that students wish to read that are not in the library must first
be approved by administrators. Those containing references to "magic," for
instance, are normally rejected. The rule book specifically prohibits
"fleshly magazines and books."


.......


Along with the college, Mr. Horton founded A Beka Books, acknowledged as the
largest Christian-textbook company in the world. A Beka sells textbooks to
more than 10,000 Christian schools across the country, offering a complete
curriculum for kindergarten through 12th grade. It has also won a big share
of the lucrative home-school market.


The company brings in about $70-million in annual revenue and is valued at
$280-million, according to Dun & Bradstreet. A sizable chunk of that revenue
goes to support the college, which does not come close to breaking even on
its own. According to its 2003 tax filing, the university collected
$20-million in tuition and fees and $3-million from contributions. The
filing attributes $15-million in income to "royalties," presumably from A
Beka.


In the mid-90s, A Beka paid nearly $50-million in back taxes after the
Internal Revenue Service ruled that it should have been classified as a
for-profit entity. The college itself remains nonprofit.


Revenue from A Beka helps keep costs extremely low. Students pay $6,000 a
year for tuition, room, and board. That's about a third or a quarter of what
most other Christian colleges cost. When asked what other colleges they
considered, Pensacola students often mention Bob Jones, Cedarville
University, Northland Baptist Bible College, and Abilene Christian
University. Cost is usually cited as the deciding factor.


Just as the textbook company helps support the college, the college helps
support the textbook company. Many of Pensacola's students work for A Beka,
operating binding equipment, packing books into boxes, loading those boxes
onto forklifts. Some students complain about the working conditions; others
say it's a good deal. For women, A Beka is usually the only employment
option because they are not allowed to hold off-campus jobs. Or leave the
campus alone, for that matter.


In the world of Christian colleges, Pensacola is an oddity. It is not a
member of the Council for Christian Colleges and Universities. It has little
to do with other institutions. Several administrators at other Christian
colleges declined to discuss Pensacola on the record for fear of seeming
critical. One said he did not know enough to speak knowledgeably because
Pensacola keeps mostly to itself.


While not wanting to criticize Pensacola, Carl A. Ruby, vice president for
student life at Cedarville, in Ohio, emphasizes that his university doesn't
take the "bad-kid approach" to discipline. "On major issues of Christian
doctrine, we are probably always on the same page," he writes in an e-mail
message. "In terms of living out our faith on a daily basis, significant
differences emerge."


.....


Creationism is taught in science courses.


.....


Several previously unaccredited Christian colleges, like Bob Jones, have
recently become candidates for accreditation. Pensacola, however, has shown
no interest in outside approval of any kind. Nor does it advertise its
unaccredited status. A search of the Web site turns up no mention of
accreditation. It is not mentioned in the college's viewbook either, which
dedicates four pages to sports activities and two to campus facilities.


.....


Lack of accreditation has been a problem for Amy Brown, too. She graduated
from Pensacola in 2003 with a degree in early-childhood education. But
because the college is not accredited, she cannot teach in public schools,
she says. She had no idea what accreditation was before enrolling at
Pensacola. "I never tried to transfer," she writes in an e-mail message,
"because I had friends that did and ended up with all of their credits as
electives," meaning that they had to retake required courses.


Mr. Ghobrial, the student from Egypt who doesn't mind the rules, wants to
attend dental school. His first choice, West Virginia University, has
already said it would not consider his application, because Pensacola is not
accredited. "I'm hoping they change their minds," he says.


Many Christian colleges do accept Pensacola's credits, as do some secular
institutions. Several former students say they have had no difficulty
transferring credits or applying for jobs. But others have. And as more
states crack down on degrees from unaccredited colleges, it may get even
tougher for Pensacola graduates.


.....


http://chronicle.com
Section: Students
Volume 52, Issue 29, Page A40


############################################################


Robinson Self-Teaching Home School Curriculum


- TOTALLY dependent upon good literacy skills to begin with.
- Lock-step without any deviation from the program.
- 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica used - outdated and too complicated for
younger readers
- 1913 Webster's Dictionary used - outdated and too complicated for younger
readers
- Science texts instead of hands on experimentation and disvcovery learning.
- Original King James Version of the Bible - outdated and language too
complicated for any child of any age
-Phonics only without the addition of  whole language approach, etc.
- Claims to be "self-teaching" but pupils require interaction with at least
one other person - a teacher.


This "box:" is the lazy person's way of homeschooling and not worth the
money you will outlay for it.


Visit the utter shite at
http://www.robinsoncurriculum.com/view/rc/s31p45.htm


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

HOMESKOOL MORONS USING THE ABOVE CRAP TO INDOCRINATE THEIR CHILDREN IS A
FORM OF CHILD ABUSE.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

MEHSC HOMEPAGE - The Original and Best!  http://mehsc.blogspot.com/

Maintained by

Professor Michelle S. Morris
Fizzix Lecturer & Fonix Tutor
Butter Homeskool Uni
C/- Kitchen Table
Home
Bible Belt USA

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

SafeEarthSafeChild wrote:

> I'm sure that I am not the first to wonder about this, but we have some
> pretty good public schools around us but we currently have our little man at
> home and are wondering about whether or not we will want to send our Little
> Man out, keep him in, or send him to a private school (I went to a Catholic
> school for years).

Nobody can make that decision for you. The first thing you will want to 
consider is why you are homeschooling him. Can you accomplish your 
purpose better by keeping him home than by sending him to public or 
private school?

Tuesday, the 14th of August, 2007

SafeEarthSafeChild wrote:
   I'm sure that I am not the first to wonder about this, but we have some
   pretty good public schools around us but we currently have our little 
man at
   home and are wondering about whether or not we will want to send our 
Little
   Man out, keep him in, or send him to a private school (I went to a 
Catholic
   school for years).

   Any thoughts?

I went to public schools for years. Made lots of A's.
I was valedictorian of a large high school class. My wife and
chose to homeschool because we thought we could do
transfinitely better teaching our own children than the
public schools could ever do. As measured by subjects covered,
books read, and with a smaller amount of time per day spent
on "school" by our children. Our children are now 17, 15, and
8. The 17-year-old finished calculus in math two years ago,
has read probably 30 times more books than I ever had to read
for school, can read novels in Spanish, and is taking
ordinary college classes in writing and Japanese at present.
So, *our* reason for homeschooling is that we don't think that
there is any such thing as "pretty good public schools". Or
private schools for that matter.

But I also can report after 12 years of homeschooling our children
that it has made the life of our family simply transfinitely better
than ever was my experience of family life growing up in the 60s
and 70s, where school ate up 40-50 hours a week, and "family
time" was sitting around a television set.

I wouldn't recommend homeschooling as an option, though, to
anyone who isn't absolutely committed to doing it.

                   Mike Morris
             (msmorris@netdirect.net)

"SafeEarthSafeChild"  wrote:

> I'm sure that I am not the first to wonder about this, but we have some
> pretty good public schools around us but we currently have our little man 
> at
> home and are wondering about whether or not we will want to send our 
> Little
> Man out, keep him in, or send him to a private school (I went to a 
> Catholic
> school for years).
>
> Any thoughts?

Fundamentalist homeskoolas don't have thoughts.

-- 
"We're Christians! We're not supposed to think!" Fanny Wype ("Nudist Colony 
Of The Dead")

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

HOMESKOOL MORONS USING THE HOMESCHOOL CRAP BELOW TO INDOCRINATE THEIR 
CHILDREN IS A FORM OF CHILD ABUSE.


>Bob Jones University Press


BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BJU Accreditation Through TRACS
Bob Jones University is a member of the Transnational Association of
Christian Colleges and Schools (TRACS) [PO Box 328, Forest, VA 24551;
Telephone: 434.525.9539; email: i...@tracs.org] having been awarded
Candidate status as a Category IV institution by the TRACS Accreditation
Commission on April 6, 2005; this status is effective for a period of five
years.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


This actually doesn't mean much.  Bob Jones Uni is a fundamentalist
creationist ratbag factory.  I quote from their associated site
..... http://www.itib.org/


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Testimony To An Infallable Bible


The church today is contending against an enemy-one cloaked in the guise of
truth and relevance. Ecumenical alliances sound the siren song of unity,
which in itself is desirable and biblical but frequently sacrifices biblical
fidelity to reach that end. The emotionalism so prevalent in modern churches
produces much heat but all too often neglects the light of God's Word. The
secular world, with its seductive refrain of "tolerance" presents itself as
compatible with biblical Christianity. The resurgence of Neo-Paganism and
New Age ideologies promises greater peace and power, yet only echoes the
age-old hollow promises Satan made to Eve. Now, more than ever, it is time
to proclaim the profound differences between the counterfeits and the
eternal truth of God's Word. This is what the International Testimony to an
Infallible Bible (or "ITIB") is all about.


The ITIB started a number of years ago when several men were having dinner
together while attending Bible Conference at Bob Jones University. In the
course of the conversation, someone mentioned how timely it would be to have
a congress which Fundamentalists from around the world could attend to
receive inspiration, instruction, encouragement, and fellowship. A committee
was formed, and in June of 1976 the World Congress of Fundamentalists was
held in Edinburgh, Scotland. It was intended to be a one-time affair;
however, those who attended were so encouraged and blessed they requested
that another such meeting be held.


Since that date over sixteen congresses (whether global or regional in
scope) have been sponsored by the ITIB. The global or World Congresses are
held about every ten years, while regional congresses are held every year or
two in different locations around the globe.


The ITIB is co-chaired by Dr. Ian Paisley (member of the European
Parliament; Pastor of Martyrs Memorial Free Presbyterian Church, Belfast,
Northern Ireland) and Dr. Bob Jones III (President of Bob Jones University,
Greenville, South Carolina, USA). The ITIB Committee is comprised of both
ministers and laymen who meet occasionally to help guide the direction of
the ITIB. Encouraging fidelity to the Bible is their overriding concern for
the ITIB.


It is amazing how far error, posing as truth, has advanced, taking control
of so many churches and Christian institutions throughout the world. It is
our prayer that the truth of biblical separation from all error, when
understood and practiced by the pastors around the world, will reveal the
dark and dangerous situation in which the church finds itself today.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


BWHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!  What ratbaggery!!!!!!


There are many such "universities" in the USA and their "degrees" have no
worth in Australia whatsoever!



>A Beka Book


BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

###########################################################


http://chronicle.com/weekly/v52/i29/29a04001.htm
From the issue dated March 24, 2006


A College That's Strictly Different


Secretive Pensacola Christian controls student life with tough regulations
and unwritten rules


By THOMAS BARTLETT


Pensacola, Fla.


....


Pensacola Christian College prides itself on being different, not just from
secular colleges, but from fellow Christian ones, too.


......


Lisa Morris was walking to class with her boyfriend last October when
something happened. At first Ms. Morris, a sophomore music major, is
reluctant to divulge the details. Eventually, however, the truth comes out:
He patted her behind.


Someone who witnessed the incident reported Ms. Morris and her boyfriend. At
Pensacola any physical contact between members of the opposite sex is
forbidden. (Members of the same sex may touch, although the college condemns
homosexuality.) The forbidden contact includes shaking hands and definitely
includes patting behinds. Both students were expelled.


.....


Even couples who are not talking or touching can be reprimanded. Sabrina
Poirier, a student at Pensacola who withdrew in 1997, was disciplined for
what is known on the campus as "optical intercourse" - staring too intently
into the eyes of a member of the opposite sex. This is also referred to as
"making eye babies." While the rule does not appear in written form, most
students interviewed for this article were familiar with the concept.


......


There are plenty of other ways to run afoul of the rules. Last spring
Timothy Dow was caught playing the video game Halo 2. Such games are banned
by the college. Movies are also forbidden, including those rated G. Music is
restricted to classical or approved Christian ("contemporary Christian"
artists are deemed too worldly). Students are allowed to watch television
news at 6 o'clock, but that's it. The TVs are controlled by college
employees, who flip a switch to black out the commercials, lest students see
anything inappropriate.


In the library, books and magazines are censored. One student says she saw a
pair of black-marker boxer shorts on a photograph of Michelangelo's David.
Any books that students wish to read that are not in the library must first
be approved by administrators. Those containing references to "magic," for
instance, are normally rejected. The rule book specifically prohibits
"fleshly magazines and books."


.......


Along with the college, Mr. Horton founded A Beka Books, acknowledged as the
largest Christian-textbook company in the world. A Beka sells textbooks to
more than 10,000 Christian schools across the country, offering a complete
curriculum for kindergarten through 12th grade. It has also won a big share
of the lucrative home-school market.


The company brings in about $70-million in annual revenue and is valued at
$280-million, according to Dun & Bradstreet. A sizable chunk of that revenue
goes to support the college, which does not come close to breaking even on
its own. According to its 2003 tax filing, the university collected
$20-million in tuition and fees and $3-million from contributions. The
filing attributes $15-million in income to "royalties," presumably from A
Beka.


In the mid-90s, A Beka paid nearly $50-million in back taxes after the
Internal Revenue Service ruled that it should have been classified as a
for-profit entity. The college itself remains nonprofit.


Revenue from A Beka helps keep costs extremely low. Students pay $6,000 a
year for tuition, room, and board. That's about a third or a quarter of what
most other Christian colleges cost. When asked what other colleges they
considered, Pensacola students often mention Bob Jones, Cedarville
University, Northland Baptist Bible College, and Abilene Christian
University. Cost is usually cited as the deciding factor.


Just as the textbook company helps support the college, the college helps
support the textbook company. Many of Pensacola's students work for A Beka,
operating binding equipment, packing books into boxes, loading those boxes
onto forklifts. Some students complain about the working conditions; others
say it's a good deal. For women, A Beka is usually the only employment
option because they are not allowed to hold off-campus jobs. Or leave the
campus alone, for that matter.


In the world of Christian colleges, Pensacola is an oddity. It is not a
member of the Council for Christian Colleges and Universities. It has little
to do with other institutions. Several administrators at other Christian
colleges declined to discuss Pensacola on the record for fear of seeming
critical. One said he did not know enough to speak knowledgeably because
Pensacola keeps mostly to itself.


While not wanting to criticize Pensacola, Carl A. Ruby, vice president for
student life at Cedarville, in Ohio, emphasizes that his university doesn't
take the "bad-kid approach" to discipline. "On major issues of Christian
doctrine, we are probably always on the same page," he writes in an e-mail
message. "In terms of living out our faith on a daily basis, significant
differences emerge."


.....


Creationism is taught in science courses.


.....


Several previously unaccredited Christian colleges, like Bob Jones, have
recently become candidates for accreditation. Pensacola, however, has shown
no interest in outside approval of any kind. Nor does it advertise its
unaccredited status. A search of the Web site turns up no mention of
accreditation. It is not mentioned in the college's viewbook either, which
dedicates four pages to sports activities and two to campus facilities.


.....


Lack of accreditation has been a problem for Amy Brown, too. She graduated
from Pensacola in 2003 with a degree in early-childhood education. But
because the college is not accredited, she cannot teach in public schools,
she says. She had no idea what accreditation was before enrolling at
Pensacola. "I never tried to transfer," she writes in an e-mail message,
"because I had friends that did and ended up with all of their credits as
electives," meaning that they had to retake required courses.


Mr. Ghobrial, the student from Egypt who doesn't mind the rules, wants to
attend dental school. His first choice, West Virginia University, has
already said it would not consider his application, because Pensacola is not
accredited. "I'm hoping they change their minds," he says.


Many Christian colleges do accept Pensacola's credits, as do some secular
institutions. Several former students say they have had no difficulty
transferring credits or applying for jobs. But others have. And as more
states crack down on degrees from unaccredited colleges, it may get even
tougher for Pensacola graduates.


.....


http://chronicle.com
Section: Students
Volume 52, Issue 29, Page A40


############################################################


Robinson Self-Teaching Home School Curriculum


- TOTALLY dependent upon good literacy skills to begin with.
- Lock-step without any deviation from the program.
- 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica used - outdated and too complicated for
younger readers
- 1913 Webster's Dictionary used - outdated and too complicated for younger
readers
- Science texts instead of hands on experimentation and disvcovery learning.
- Original King James Version of the Bible - outdated and language too
complicated for any child of any age
-Phonics only without the addition of  whole language approach, etc.
- Claims to be "self-teaching" but pupils require interaction with at least
one other person - a teacher.


This "box:" is the lazy person's way of homeschooling and not worth the
money you will outlay for it.


Visit the utter shite at
http://www.robinsoncurriculum.com/view/rc/s31p45.htm


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

HOMESKOOL MORONS USING THE ABOVE CRAP TO INDOCRINATE THEIR CHILDREN IS A
FORM OF CHILD ABUSE.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

MEHSC HOMEPAGE - The Original and Best!  http://mehsc.blogspot.com/

Maintained by

Professor Michelle S. Morris
Fizzix Lecturer & Fonix Tutor
Butter Homeskool Uni
C/- Kitchen Table
Home
Bible Belt USA

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Wdnesday, the 15th of August, 2007


Mark Tindall wrote, under one of his many
false names:
    Fundamentalist homeskoolas don't have thoughts.

This kind of thing, too, Mark, is not funny and is a
lie. In the first place, those who have responded about
homeschooling so far, at least a couple of them, aren't
fundamentalist. Second, you know damn well that even the
fundamentalists around here have thoughts.

                  Mike Morris
             (msmorris@netdirect.net)

Do what good teachers do.  Decide what you want the end results to be, then 
choose the course of action that you believe will take your child to those 
results.  Despite what you will hear from some of the more bigoted 
homeshoolers here, any of the 3 major forms of education can result in a 
great education.

Keep in mind, also, what good teachers have realized for generations. You 
are not locked into any decision.  Change or modify any decision if it is 
not achieving the results you want.  You also don't have to choose 
exclusively one form of education over another.  Mix and match as you see 
fit.  My parents sent me to Lutheran kindergarten (we're not Lutheran, btw) 
and then to public schools after that.  In HS, I took classes at a private 
university at the same time as I attended a public high school. In some 
areas, you can homeschool and attend public school part-time (although you 
may have to ask really nicely, as the school may not receive funding for the 
additional student).

Also, depending on where you live, you may have access to public resources 
even if you homeschool or attend private schools. In IL, we have regional 
education libraries, chock full of educational materials that can be checked 
out by public/private/homeschooling teachers.

In my opinion, you would be best served by the mix and match method.  It 
allows you to pick those elements from each system that best meet your 
needs.  Of course, it takes more work on your part, but that is part and 
parcel of good teaching in a standards based teaching situation.

Hope this helps.

tj

"SafeEarthSafeChild"  wrote in message 
news:flbwi.3857$r14.64@trndny06...
> I'm sure that I am not the first to wonder about this, but we have some
> pretty good public schools around us but we currently have our little man 
> at
> home and are wondering about whether or not we will want to send our 
> Little
> Man out, keep him in, or send him to a private school (I went to a 
> Catholic
> school for years).
>
> Any thoughts?
>

SafeEarthSafeChild wrote:

> I'm sure that I am not the first to wonder about this, but we have some
> pretty good public schools around us but we currently have our little man at
> home and are wondering about whether or not we will want to send our Little
> Man out, keep him in, or send him to a private school (I went to a Catholic
> school for years).

Nobody can make that decision for you. The first thing you will want to 
consider is why you are homeschooling him. Can you accomplish your 
purpose better by keeping him home than by sending him to public or 
private school?

Tuesday, the 14th of August, 2007

SafeEarthSafeChild wrote:
   I'm sure that I am not the first to wonder about this, but we have some
   pretty good public schools around us but we currently have our little 
man at
   home and are wondering about whether or not we will want to send our 
Little
   Man out, keep him in, or send him to a private school (I went to a 
Catholic
   school for years).

   Any thoughts?

I went to public schools for years. Made lots of A's.
I was valedictorian of a large high school class. My wife and
chose to homeschool because we thought we could do
transfinitely better teaching our own children than the
public schools could ever do. As measured by subjects covered,
books read, and with a smaller amount of time per day spent
on "school" by our children. Our children are now 17, 15, and
8. The 17-year-old finished calculus in math two years ago,
has read probably 30 times more books than I ever had to read
for school, can read novels in Spanish, and is taking
ordinary college classes in writing and Japanese at present.
So, *our* reason for homeschooling is that we don't think that
there is any such thing as "pretty good public schools". Or
private schools for that matter.

But I also can report after 12 years of homeschooling our children
that it has made the life of our family simply transfinitely better
than ever was my experience of family life growing up in the 60s
and 70s, where school ate up 40-50 hours a week, and "family
time" was sitting around a television set.

I wouldn't recommend homeschooling as an option, though, to
anyone who isn't absolutely committed to doing it.

                   Mike Morris
             (msmorris@netdirect.net)

"SafeEarthSafeChild"  wrote:

> I'm sure that I am not the first to wonder about this, but we have some
> pretty good public schools around us but we currently have our little man 
> at
> home and are wondering about whether or not we will want to send our 
> Little
> Man out, keep him in, or send him to a private school (I went to a 
> Catholic
> school for years).
>
> Any thoughts?

Fundamentalist homeskoolas don't have thoughts.

-- 
"We're Christians! We're not supposed to think!" Fanny Wype ("Nudist Colony 
Of The Dead")

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

HOMESKOOL MORONS USING THE HOMESCHOOL CRAP BELOW TO INDOCRINATE THEIR 
CHILDREN IS A FORM OF CHILD ABUSE.


>Bob Jones University Press


BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BJU Accreditation Through TRACS
Bob Jones University is a member of the Transnational Association of
Christian Colleges and Schools (TRACS) [PO Box 328, Forest, VA 24551;
Telephone: 434.525.9539; email: i...@tracs.org] having been awarded
Candidate status as a Category IV institution by the TRACS Accreditation
Commission on April 6, 2005; this status is effective for a period of five
years.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


This actually doesn't mean much.  Bob Jones Uni is a fundamentalist
creationist ratbag factory.  I quote from their associated site
..... http://www.itib.org/


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Testimony To An Infallable Bible


The church today is contending against an enemy-one cloaked in the guise of
truth and relevance. Ecumenical alliances sound the siren song of unity,
which in itself is desirable and biblical but frequently sacrifices biblical
fidelity to reach that end. The emotionalism so prevalent in modern churches
produces much heat but all too often neglects the light of God's Word. The
secular world, with its seductive refrain of "tolerance" presents itself as
compatible with biblical Christianity. The resurgence of Neo-Paganism and
New Age ideologies promises greater peace and power, yet only echoes the
age-old hollow promises Satan made to Eve. Now, more than ever, it is time
to proclaim the profound differences between the counterfeits and the
eternal truth of God's Word. This is what the International Testimony to an
Infallible Bible (or "ITIB") is all about.


The ITIB started a number of years ago when several men were having dinner
together while attending Bible Conference at Bob Jones University. In the
course of the conversation, someone mentioned how timely it would be to have
a congress which Fundamentalists from around the world could attend to
receive inspiration, instruction, encouragement, and fellowship. A committee
was formed, and in June of 1976 the World Congress of Fundamentalists was
held in Edinburgh, Scotland. It was intended to be a one-time affair;
however, those who attended were so encouraged and blessed they requested
that another such meeting be held.


Since that date over sixteen congresses (whether global or regional in
scope) have been sponsored by the ITIB. The global or World Congresses are
held about every ten years, while regional congresses are held every year or
two in different locations around the globe.


The ITIB is co-chaired by Dr. Ian Paisley (member of the European
Parliament; Pastor of Martyrs Memorial Free Presbyterian Church, Belfast,
Northern Ireland) and Dr. Bob Jones III (President of Bob Jones University,
Greenville, South Carolina, USA). The ITIB Committee is comprised of both
ministers and laymen who meet occasionally to help guide the direction of
the ITIB. Encouraging fidelity to the Bible is their overriding concern for
the ITIB.


It is amazing how far error, posing as truth, has advanced, taking control
of so many churches and Christian institutions throughout the world. It is
our prayer that the truth of biblical separation from all error, when
understood and practiced by the pastors around the world, will reveal the
dark and dangerous situation in which the church finds itself today.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


BWHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!  What ratbaggery!!!!!!


There are many such "universities" in the USA and their "degrees" have no
worth in Australia whatsoever!



>A Beka Book


BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

###########################################################


http://chronicle.com/weekly/v52/i29/29a04001.htm
From the issue dated March 24, 2006


A College That's Strictly Different


Secretive Pensacola Christian controls student life with tough regulations
and unwritten rules


By THOMAS BARTLETT


Pensacola, Fla.


....


Pensacola Christian College prides itself on being different, not just from
secular colleges, but from fellow Christian ones, too.


......


Lisa Morris was walking to class with her boyfriend last October when
something happened. At first Ms. Morris, a sophomore music major, is
reluctant to divulge the details. Eventually, however, the truth comes out:
He patted her behind.


Someone who witnessed the incident reported Ms. Morris and her boyfriend. At
Pensacola any physical contact between members of the opposite sex is
forbidden. (Members of the same sex may touch, although the college condemns
homosexuality.) The forbidden contact includes shaking hands and definitely
includes patting behinds. Both students were expelled.


.....


Even couples who are not talking or touching can be reprimanded. Sabrina
Poirier, a student at Pensacola who withdrew in 1997, was disciplined for
what is known on the campus as "optical intercourse" - staring too intently
into the eyes of a member of the opposite sex. This is also referred to as
"making eye babies." While the rule does not appear in written form, most
students interviewed for this article were familiar with the concept.


......


There are plenty of other ways to run afoul of the rules. Last spring
Timothy Dow was caught playing the video game Halo 2. Such games are banned
by the college. Movies are also forbidden, including those rated G. Music is
restricted to classical or approved Christian ("contemporary Christian"
artists are deemed too worldly). Students are allowed to watch television
news at 6 o'clock, but that's it. The TVs are controlled by college
employees, who flip a switch to black out the commercials, lest students see
anything inappropriate.


In the library, books and magazines are censored. One student says she saw a
pair of black-marker boxer shorts on a photograph of Michelangelo's David.
Any books that students wish to read that are not in the library must first
be approved by administrators. Those containing references to "magic," for
instance, are normally rejected. The rule book specifically prohibits
"fleshly magazines and books."


.......


Along with the college, Mr. Horton founded A Beka Books, acknowledged as the
largest Christian-textbook company in the world. A Beka sells textbooks to
more than 10,000 Christian schools across the country, offering a complete
curriculum for kindergarten through 12th grade. It has also won a big share
of the lucrative home-school market.


The company brings in about $70-million in annual revenue and is valued at
$280-million, according to Dun & Bradstreet. A sizable chunk of that revenue
goes to support the college, which does not come close to breaking even on
its own. According to its 2003 tax filing, the university collected
$20-million in tuition and fees and $3-million from contributions. The
filing attributes $15-million in income to "royalties," presumably from A
Beka.


In the mid-90s, A Beka paid nearly $50-million in back taxes after the
Internal Revenue Service ruled that it should have been classified as a
for-profit entity. The college itself remains nonprofit.


Revenue from A Beka helps keep costs extremely low. Students pay $6,000 a
year for tuition, room, and board. That's about a third or a quarter of what
most other Christian colleges cost. When asked what other colleges they
considered, Pensacola students often mention Bob Jones, Cedarville
University, Northland Baptist Bible College, and Abilene Christian
University. Cost is usually cited as the deciding factor.


Just as the textbook company helps support the college, the college helps
support the textbook company. Many of Pensacola's students work for A Beka,
operating binding equipment, packing books into boxes, loading those boxes
onto forklifts. Some students complain about the working conditions; others
say it's a good deal. For women, A Beka is usually the only employment
option because they are not allowed to hold off-campus jobs. Or leave the
campus alone, for that matter.


In the world of Christian colleges, Pensacola is an oddity. It is not a
member of the Council for Christian Colleges and Universities. It has little
to do with other institutions. Several administrators at other Christian
colleges declined to discuss Pensacola on the record for fear of seeming
critical. One said he did not know enough to speak knowledgeably because
Pensacola keeps mostly to itself.


While not wanting to criticize Pensacola, Carl A. Ruby, vice president for
student life at Cedarville, in Ohio, emphasizes that his university doesn't
take the "bad-kid approach" to discipline. "On major issues of Christian
doctrine, we are probably always on the same page," he writes in an e-mail
message. "In terms of living out our faith on a daily basis, significant
differences emerge."


.....


Creationism is taught in science courses.


.....


Several previously unaccredited Christian colleges, like Bob Jones, have
recently become candidates for accreditation. Pensacola, however, has shown
no interest in outside approval of any kind. Nor does it advertise its
unaccredited status. A search of the Web site turns up no mention of
accreditation. It is not mentioned in the college's viewbook either, which
dedicates four pages to sports activities and two to campus facilities.


.....


Lack of accreditation has been a problem for Amy Brown, too. She graduated
from Pensacola in 2003 with a degree in early-childhood education. But
because the college is not accredited, she cannot teach in public schools,
she says. She had no idea what accreditation was before enrolling at
Pensacola. "I never tried to transfer," she writes in an e-mail message,
"because I had friends that did and ended up with all of their credits as
electives," meaning that they had to retake required courses.


Mr. Ghobrial, the student from Egypt who doesn't mind the rules, wants to
attend dental school. His first choice, West Virginia University, has
already said it would not consider his application, because Pensacola is not
accredited. "I'm hoping they change their minds," he says.


Many Christian colleges do accept Pensacola's credits, as do some secular
institutions. Several former students say they have had no difficulty
transferring credits or applying for jobs. But others have. And as more
states crack down on degrees from unaccredited colleges, it may get even
tougher for Pensacola graduates.


.....


http://chronicle.com
Section: Students
Volume 52, Issue 29, Page A40


############################################################


Robinson Self-Teaching Home School Curriculum


- TOTALLY dependent upon good literacy skills to begin with.
- Lock-step without any deviation from the program.
- 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica used - outdated and too complicated for
younger readers
- 1913 Webster's Dictionary used - outdated and too complicated for younger
readers
- Science texts instead of hands on experimentation and disvcovery learning.
- Original King James Version of the Bible - outdated and language too
complicated for any child of any age
-Phonics only without the addition of  whole language approach, etc.
- Claims to be "self-teaching" but pupils require interaction with at least
one other person - a teacher.


This "box:" is the lazy person's way of homeschooling and not worth the
money you will outlay for it.


Visit the utter shite at
http://www.robinsoncurriculum.com/view/rc/s31p45.htm


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

HOMESKOOL MORONS USING THE ABOVE CRAP TO INDOCRINATE THEIR CHILDREN IS A
FORM OF CHILD ABUSE.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

MEHSC HOMEPAGE - The Original and Best!  http://mehsc.blogspot.com/

Maintained by

Professor Michelle S. Morris
Fizzix Lecturer & Fonix Tutor
Butter Homeskool Uni
C/- Kitchen Table
Home
Bible Belt USA

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Wdnesday, the 15th of August, 2007


Mark Tindall wrote, under one of his many
false names:
    Fundamentalist homeskoolas don't have thoughts.

This kind of thing, too, Mark, is not funny and is a
lie. In the first place, those who have responded about
homeschooling so far, at least a couple of them, aren't
fundamentalist. Second, you know damn well that even the
fundamentalists around here have thoughts.

                  Mike Morris
             (msmorris@netdirect.net)

Do what good teachers do.  Decide what you want the end results to be, then 
choose the course of action that you believe will take your child to those 
results.  Despite what you will hear from some of the more bigoted 
homeshoolers here, any of the 3 major forms of education can result in a 
great education.

Keep in mind, also, what good teachers have realized for generations. You 
are not locked into any decision.  Change or modify any decision if it is 
not achieving the results you want.  You also don't have to choose 
exclusively one form of education over another.  Mix and match as you see 
fit.  My parents sent me to Lutheran kindergarten (we're not Lutheran, btw) 
and then to public schools after that.  In HS, I took classes at a private 
university at the same time as I attended a public high school. In some 
areas, you can homeschool and attend public school part-time (although you 
may have to ask really nicely, as the school may not receive funding for the 
additional student).

Also, depending on where you live, you may have access to public resources 
even if you homeschool or attend private schools. In IL, we have regional 
education libraries, chock full of educational materials that can be checked 
out by public/private/homeschooling teachers.

In my opinion, you would be best served by the mix and match method.  It 
allows you to pick those elements from each system that best meet your 
needs.  Of course, it takes more work on your part, but that is part and 
parcel of good teaching in a standards based teaching situation.

Hope this helps.

tj

"SafeEarthSafeChild"  wrote in message 
news:flbwi.3857$r14.64@trndny06...
> I'm sure that I am not the first to wonder about this, but we have some
> pretty good public schools around us but we currently have our little man 
> at
> home and are wondering about whether or not we will want to send our 
> Little
> Man out, keep him in, or send him to a private school (I went to a 
> Catholic
> school for years).
>
> Any thoughts?
>

"Michael S. Morris"  wrote:

>> Fundamentalist homeskoolas don't have thoughts.
>
> This kind of thing ... is not funny

I know!

Fundamentalist homeskoolas should start using their God-given brains.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Fit Bodies, Fat Minds: Why Evangelicals don't think and what to do about
it" ( Baker Books; Grand Rapids:1994) - Os Guiness


p. 9 -11
 ...a leading problem in American evangelicalism - anti-intellectualism.
Anti-intellectualism is a disposition to discount the importance of truth
and the life of the mind. ...evangelicals have toned up their bodies and
dumbed down their minds.  The result!  Many suffer from a modern form of
what the ancient stoics called "mental hedonism" - having fit bodies but fat
minds. ...At root, evangelical anti-intellectualism is both a scandal and a
sin.  It is a scandal in the sense of being an offense and a stumbling block
that needlessly hinders serious people from considering the Christian faith
and coming to Christ.  It is a sin because it is a refusal, contrary to the
first of Jesus' two great commandments, to love the Lord our God with all
our minds.


p. 12
Bertrand Russell mocked, "Most Christians would rather die than think - in
fact they do!"


p. 14


Critics of evangelical anti-intellectualism commonly quote four great facts
of our shame.  First, no general evangelical magazine of serious ideas
exists.  Second, no cogent case for the Christian faith has been written by
a living evangelical that can confidently be given to a serious 
non-Christian
reader.  Third, there is no evangelical university worthy of the name that
has a program of graduate studies on par with other major universities.
Fourth, there has been no generally accepted, constructive formulation of an
evangelical public philosophy for the last hundred years.


p. 15


Not surprisingly the disarray and frustration is deepest in evangelicals who
think - whether they do so for a living, such as academics, or those who do
so for the love of it, such as artists.


p. 16


Those more educated now tend to be significantly less religious, those more
religious tend to be significantly less educated.


p. 17 - 18


.... evangelicals have relied upon populist strengths and rhetoric rather
than addressing the gatekeepers of modern society ... evangelicals have
chosen to rely on a rhetoric of protest, pronouncement, and picketing rather
than persuasion.


p. 25


.... slow retreat from the Christian mind to the creation of a "ghost mind."
..... slow rise of a mass mind and the creation of an "idiot culture."


p. 30


The false antagonisms of that sort of either / or thinking have become a
standard feature of evangelicalism ... In terms of a Christian mind, we
evangelicals characteristically pit "heart" versus "head" and opt for the
heart as the more spiritual choice.


p. 31


.... "heart" in the Bible is more a matter of understanding than sentiment -
so "heart" versus "head' is a false choice.


p. 32


John Wesley , the founder of Methodism, had said, "It is a fundamental
principal with us that to renounce reason is to renounce religion, that
religion and reason go hand in hand, that irrational religion is false
religion."


p. 62


....evangelical artists - and poets, scriptwriters, sculptors, dancers and
actors - as the least understood and most alienated single group of people
in the evangelical churches.


p.  72


.... the inability to read anything but the shallowest texts is equally
widespread.  ... the body of Christ often gives the appearance of the
uncontrolled movements of a paraplegic.


p.  93


The result is a form of the faith that is Christian Lite.


p. 116


.... Christian discourse is beginning to take on some of the characteristics
of tabloid and talk-show truth.  For a start, we have our own frenzied
circulation of myths and "psycho-facts" - beliefs hat become true because we
feel they are true even if they are not; or beliefs that are not supported
by hard evidence but are taken as real because their constant repetition
changes the way we view life.


p. 132


Let My people think.


p.  140


.... "All truth is God's truth," so we can welcome truth wherever it is to be
found, even among pagans.  But equally, "all that is not of God is not of
truth" and therefore not for us, even if it is we who believe it devoutly.


p. 143


A fourth misconception concerns the idea that thinking Christianly is a form
of uniformity - in other words, that if we all think Christianly we will all
think the same way.  When this happens, the goal of thinking Christianly
collapses into a frantic search for the one particular correct way of
thinking or acting.  The result is he fallacy of "particularism", the
uniformity of a particular "Christianly Correct" way of thinking.
....[particularism] denies two requirements of thinking Christianly that
oppose all uniformity:  the importance of diversity and the fact of human
fallibility.


p. 143 - 144


For another thing, applying the idea of uniformity is disastrous because it
leads inevitably to legalism and judgementalism.  There is only a short and
easy step from "This is the Christian way" to "There is only one Christian
way" to "Anything different from this Christian way is not Christian" to
"All those who differ from my way are not Christians".


p. 151


One of the greatest sadnesses of a thinking evangelical is knowing the
thousands who have left, and are still leaving, evangelicalism because
evangelicals do not think.


p. 152


Dorothy L Sayers ... "The cultivation of religious emotion without
philosophic basis," she explained, "is thoroughly pernicious." ...One of the
great legacies for those of us who knew the late Francis Schaeffer was that
the truth mattered to him.  He took God seriously, he took people seriously
and he took truth seriously.  Friederich Nietsche's aphorism could be
applied to him, "All truths are bloody truths to me."


#############################################################


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

MEHSC HOMEPAGE - The Original and Best!  http://mehsc.blogspot.com/

Maintained by

Professor Michelle S. Morris
Fizzix Lecturer & Fonix Tutor
Butter Homeskool Uni
C/- Kitchen Table
Home
Bible Belt USA

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

SafeEarthSafeChild wrote:

> I'm sure that I am not the first to wonder about this, but we have some
> pretty good public schools around us but we currently have our little man at
> home and are wondering about whether or not we will want to send our Little
> Man out, keep him in, or send him to a private school (I went to a Catholic
> school for years).

Nobody can make that decision for you. The first thing you will want to 
consider is why you are homeschooling him. Can you accomplish your 
purpose better by keeping him home than by sending him to public or 
private school?

Tuesday, the 14th of August, 2007

SafeEarthSafeChild wrote:
   I'm sure that I am not the first to wonder about this, but we have some
   pretty good public schools around us but we currently have our little 
man at
   home and are wondering about whether or not we will want to send our 
Little
   Man out, keep him in, or send him to a private school (I went to a 
Catholic
   school for years).

   Any thoughts?

I went to public schools for years. Made lots of A's.
I was valedictorian of a large high school class. My wife and
chose to homeschool because we thought we could do
transfinitely better teaching our own children than the
public schools could ever do. As measured by subjects covered,
books read, and with a smaller amount of time per day spent
on "school" by our children. Our children are now 17, 15, and
8. The 17-year-old finished calculus in math two years ago,
has read probably 30 times more books than I ever had to read
for school, can read novels in Spanish, and is taking
ordinary college classes in writing and Japanese at present.
So, *our* reason for homeschooling is that we don't think that
there is any such thing as "pretty good public schools". Or
private schools for that matter.

But I also can report after 12 years of homeschooling our children
that it has made the life of our family simply transfinitely better
than ever was my experience of family life growing up in the 60s
and 70s, where school ate up 40-50 hours a week, and "family
time" was sitting around a television set.

I wouldn't recommend homeschooling as an option, though, to
anyone who isn't absolutely committed to doing it.

                   Mike Morris
             (msmorris@netdirect.net)

"SafeEarthSafeChild"  wrote:

> I'm sure that I am not the first to wonder about this, but we have some
> pretty good public schools around us but we currently have our little man 
> at
> home and are wondering about whether or not we will want to send our 
> Little
> Man out, keep him in, or send him to a private school (I went to a 
> Catholic
> school for years).
>
> Any thoughts?

Fundamentalist homeskoolas don't have thoughts.

-- 
"We're Christians! We're not supposed to think!" Fanny Wype ("Nudist Colony 
Of The Dead")

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

HOMESKOOL MORONS USING THE HOMESCHOOL CRAP BELOW TO INDOCRINATE THEIR 
CHILDREN IS A FORM OF CHILD ABUSE.


>Bob Jones University Press


BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BJU Accreditation Through TRACS
Bob Jones University is a member of the Transnational Association of
Christian Colleges and Schools (TRACS) [PO Box 328, Forest, VA 24551;
Telephone: 434.525.9539; email: i...@tracs.org] having been awarded
Candidate status as a Category IV institution by the TRACS Accreditation
Commission on April 6, 2005; this status is effective for a period of five
years.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


This actually doesn't mean much.  Bob Jones Uni is a fundamentalist
creationist ratbag factory.  I quote from their associated site
..... http://www.itib.org/


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Testimony To An Infallable Bible


The church today is contending against an enemy-one cloaked in the guise of
truth and relevance. Ecumenical alliances sound the siren song of unity,
which in itself is desirable and biblical but frequently sacrifices biblical
fidelity to reach that end. The emotionalism so prevalent in modern churches
produces much heat but all too often neglects the light of God's Word. The
secular world, with its seductive refrain of "tolerance" presents itself as
compatible with biblical Christianity. The resurgence of Neo-Paganism and
New Age ideologies promises greater peace and power, yet only echoes the
age-old hollow promises Satan made to Eve. Now, more than ever, it is time
to proclaim the profound differences between the counterfeits and the
eternal truth of God's Word. This is what the International Testimony to an
Infallible Bible (or "ITIB") is all about.


The ITIB started a number of years ago when several men were having dinner
together while attending Bible Conference at Bob Jones University. In the
course of the conversation, someone mentioned how timely it would be to have
a congress which Fundamentalists from around the world could attend to
receive inspiration, instruction, encouragement, and fellowship. A committee
was formed, and in June of 1976 the World Congress of Fundamentalists was
held in Edinburgh, Scotland. It was intended to be a one-time affair;
however, those who attended were so encouraged and blessed they requested
that another such meeting be held.


Since that date over sixteen congresses (whether global or regional in
scope) have been sponsored by the ITIB. The global or World Congresses are
held about every ten years, while regional congresses are held every year or
two in different locations around the globe.


The ITIB is co-chaired by Dr. Ian Paisley (member of the European
Parliament; Pastor of Martyrs Memorial Free Presbyterian Church, Belfast,
Northern Ireland) and Dr. Bob Jones III (President of Bob Jones University,
Greenville, South Carolina, USA). The ITIB Committee is comprised of both
ministers and laymen who meet occasionally to help guide the direction of
the ITIB. Encouraging fidelity to the Bible is their overriding concern for
the ITIB.


It is amazing how far error, posing as truth, has advanced, taking control
of so many churches and Christian institutions throughout the world. It is
our prayer that the truth of biblical separation from all error, when
understood and practiced by the pastors around the world, will reveal the
dark and dangerous situation in which the church finds itself today.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


BWHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!  What ratbaggery!!!!!!


There are many such "universities" in the USA and their "degrees" have no
worth in Australia whatsoever!



>A Beka Book


BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

###########################################################


http://chronicle.com/weekly/v52/i29/29a04001.htm
From the issue dated March 24, 2006


A College That's Strictly Different


Secretive Pensacola Christian controls student life with tough regulations
and unwritten rules


By THOMAS BARTLETT


Pensacola, Fla.


....


Pensacola Christian College prides itself on being different, not just from
secular colleges, but from fellow Christian ones, too.


......


Lisa Morris was walking to class with her boyfriend last October when
something happened. At first Ms. Morris, a sophomore music major, is
reluctant to divulge the details. Eventually, however, the truth comes out:
He patted her behind.


Someone who witnessed the incident reported Ms. Morris and her boyfriend. At
Pensacola any physical contact between members of the opposite sex is
forbidden. (Members of the same sex may touch, although the college condemns
homosexuality.) The forbidden contact includes shaking hands and definitely
includes patting behinds. Both students were expelled.


.....


Even couples who are not talking or touching can be reprimanded. Sabrina
Poirier, a student at Pensacola who withdrew in 1997, was disciplined for
what is known on the campus as "optical intercourse" - staring too intently
into the eyes of a member of the opposite sex. This is also referred to as
"making eye babies." While the rule does not appear in written form, most
students interviewed for this article were familiar with the concept.


......


There are plenty of other ways to run afoul of the rules. Last spring
Timothy Dow was caught playing the video game Halo 2. Such games are banned
by the college. Movies are also forbidden, including those rated G. Music is
restricted to classical or approved Christian ("contemporary Christian"
artists are deemed too worldly). Students are allowed to watch television
news at 6 o'clock, but that's it. The TVs are controlled by college
employees, who flip a switch to black out the commercials, lest students see
anything inappropriate.


In the library, books and magazines are censored. One student says she saw a
pair of black-marker boxer shorts on a photograph of Michelangelo's David.
Any books that students wish to read that are not in the library must first
be approved by administrators. Those containing references to "magic," for
instance, are normally rejected. The rule book specifically prohibits
"fleshly magazines and books."


.......


Along with the college, Mr. Horton founded A Beka Books, acknowledged as the
largest Christian-textbook company in the world. A Beka sells textbooks to
more than 10,000 Christian schools across the country, offering a complete
curriculum for kindergarten through 12th grade. It has also won a big share
of the lucrative home-school market.


The company brings in about $70-million in annual revenue and is valued at
$280-million, according to Dun & Bradstreet. A sizable chunk of that revenue
goes to support the college, which does not come close to breaking even on
its own. According to its 2003 tax filing, the university collected
$20-million in tuition and fees and $3-million from contributions. The
filing attributes $15-million in income to "royalties," presumably from A
Beka.


In the mid-90s, A Beka paid nearly $50-million in back taxes after the
Internal Revenue Service ruled that it should have been classified as a
for-profit entity. The college itself remains nonprofit.


Revenue from A Beka helps keep costs extremely low. Students pay $6,000 a
year for tuition, room, and board. That's about a third or a quarter of what
most other Christian colleges cost. When asked what other colleges they
considered, Pensacola students often mention Bob Jones, Cedarville
University, Northland Baptist Bible College, and Abilene Christian
University. Cost is usually cited as the deciding factor.


Just as the textbook company helps support the college, the college helps
support the textbook company. Many of Pensacola's students work for A Beka,
operating binding equipment, packing books into boxes, loading those boxes
onto forklifts. Some students complain about the working conditions; others
say it's a good deal. For women, A Beka is usually the only employment
option because they are not allowed to hold off-campus jobs. Or leave the
campus alone, for that matter.


In the world of Christian colleges, Pensacola is an oddity. It is not a
member of the Council for Christian Colleges and Universities. It has little
to do with other institutions. Several administrators at other Christian
colleges declined to discuss Pensacola on the record for fear of seeming
critical. One said he did not know enough to speak knowledgeably because
Pensacola keeps mostly to itself.


While not wanting to criticize Pensacola, Carl A. Ruby, vice president for
student life at Cedarville, in Ohio, emphasizes that his university doesn't
take the "bad-kid approach" to discipline. "On major issues of Christian
doctrine, we are probably always on the same page," he writes in an e-mail
message. "In terms of living out our faith on a daily basis, significant
differences emerge."


.....


Creationism is taught in science courses.


.....


Several previously unaccredited Christian colleges, like Bob Jones, have
recently become candidates for accreditation. Pensacola, however, has shown
no interest in outside approval of any kind. Nor does it advertise its
unaccredited status. A search of the Web site turns up no mention of
accreditation. It is not mentioned in the college's viewbook either, which
dedicates four pages to sports activities and two to campus facilities.


.....


Lack of accreditation has been a problem for Amy Brown, too. She graduated
from Pensacola in 2003 with a degree in early-childhood education. But
because the college is not accredited, she cannot teach in public schools,
she says. She had no idea what accreditation was before enrolling at
Pensacola. "I never tried to transfer," she writes in an e-mail message,
"because I had friends that did and ended up with all of their credits as
electives," meaning that they had to retake required courses.


Mr. Ghobrial, the student from Egypt who doesn't mind the rules, wants to
attend dental school. His first choice, West Virginia University, has
already said it would not consider his application, because Pensacola is not
accredited. "I'm hoping they change their minds," he says.


Many Christian colleges do accept Pensacola's credits, as do some secular
institutions. Several former students say they have had no difficulty
transferring credits or applying for jobs. But others have. And as more
states crack down on degrees from unaccredited colleges, it may get even
tougher for Pensacola graduates.


.....


http://chronicle.com
Section: Students
Volume 52, Issue 29, Page A40


############################################################


Robinson Self-Teaching Home School Curriculum


- TOTALLY dependent upon good literacy skills to begin with.
- Lock-step without any deviation from the program.
- 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica used - outdated and too complicated for
younger readers
- 1913 Webster's Dictionary used - outdated and too complicated for younger
readers
- Science texts instead of hands on experimentation and disvcovery learning.
- Original King James Version of the Bible - outdated and language too
complicated for any child of any age
-Phonics only without the addition of  whole language approach, etc.
- Claims to be "self-teaching" but pupils require interaction with at least
one other person - a teacher.


This "box:" is the lazy person's way of homeschooling and not worth the
money you will outlay for it.


Visit the utter shite at
http://www.robinsoncurriculum.com/view/rc/s31p45.htm


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

HOMESKOOL MORONS USING THE ABOVE CRAP TO INDOCRINATE THEIR CHILDREN IS A
FORM OF CHILD ABUSE.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

MEHSC HOMEPAGE - The Original and Best!  http://mehsc.blogspot.com/

Maintained by

Professor Michelle S. Morris
Fizzix Lecturer & Fonix Tutor
Butter Homeskool Uni
C/- Kitchen Table
Home
Bible Belt USA

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Wdnesday, the 15th of August, 2007


Mark Tindall wrote, under one of his many
false names:
    Fundamentalist homeskoolas don't have thoughts.

This kind of thing, too, Mark, is not funny and is a
lie. In the first place, those who have responded about
homeschooling so far, at least a couple of them, aren't
fundamentalist. Second, you know damn well that even the
fundamentalists around here have thoughts.

                  Mike Morris
             (msmorris@netdirect.net)

Do what good teachers do.  Decide what you want the end results to be, then 
choose the course of action that you believe will take your child to those 
results.  Despite what you will hear from some of the more bigoted 
homeshoolers here, any of the 3 major forms of education can result in a 
great education.

Keep in mind, also, what good teachers have realized for generations. You 
are not locked into any decision.  Change or modify any decision if it is 
not achieving the results you want.  You also don't have to choose 
exclusively one form of education over another.  Mix and match as you see 
fit.  My parents sent me to Lutheran kindergarten (we're not Lutheran, btw) 
and then to public schools after that.  In HS, I took classes at a private 
university at the same time as I attended a public high school. In some 
areas, you can homeschool and attend public school part-time (although you 
may have to ask really nicely, as the school may not receive funding for the 
additional student).

Also, depending on where you live, you may have access to public resources 
even if you homeschool or attend private schools. In IL, we have regional 
education libraries, chock full of educational materials that can be checked 
out by public/private/homeschooling teachers.

In my opinion, you would be best served by the mix and match method.  It 
allows you to pick those elements from each system that best meet your 
needs.  Of course, it takes more work on your part, but that is part and 
parcel of good teaching in a standards based teaching situation.

Hope this helps.

tj

"SafeEarthSafeChild"  wrote in message 
news:flbwi.3857$r14.64@trndny06...
> I'm sure that I am not the first to wonder about this, but we have some
> pretty good public schools around us but we currently have our little man 
> at
> home and are wondering about whether or not we will want to send our 
> Little
> Man out, keep him in, or send him to a private school (I went to a 
> Catholic
> school for years).
>
> Any thoughts?
>

"Michael S. Morris"  wrote:

>> Fundamentalist homeskoolas don't have thoughts.
>
> This kind of thing ... is not funny

I know!

Fundamentalist homeskoolas should start using their God-given brains.

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"Fit Bodies, Fat Minds: Why Evangelicals don't think and what to do about
it" ( Baker Books; Grand Rapids:1994) - Os Guiness


p. 9 -11
 ...a leading problem in American evangelicalism - anti-intellectualism.
Anti-intellectualism is a disposition to discount the importance of truth
and the life of the mind. ...evangelicals have toned up their bodies and
dumbed down their minds.  The result!  Many suffer from a modern form of
what the ancient stoics called "mental hedonism" - having fit bodies but fat
minds. ...At root, evangelical anti-intellectualism is both a scandal and a
sin.  It is a scandal in the sense of being an offense and a stumbling block
that needlessly hinders serious people from considering the Christian faith
and coming to Christ.  It is a sin because it is a refusal, contrary to the
first of Jesus' two great commandments, to love the Lord our God with all
our minds.


p. 12
Bertrand Russell mocked, "Most Christians would rather die than think - in
fact they do!"


p. 14


Critics of evangelical anti-intellectualism commonly quote four great facts
of our shame.  First, no general evangelical magazine of serious ideas
exists.  Second, no cogent case for the Christian faith has been written by
a living evangelical that can confidently be given to a serious 
non-Christian
reader.  Third, there is no evangelical university worthy of the name that
has a program of graduate studies on par with other major universities.
Fourth, there has been no generally accepted, constructive formulation of an
evangelical public philosophy for the last hundred years.


p. 15


Not surprisingly the disarray and frustration is deepest in evangelicals who
think - whether they do so for a living, such as academics, or those who do
so for the love of it, such as artists.


p. 16


Those more educated now tend to be significantly less religious, those more
religious tend to be significantly less educated.


p. 17 - 18


.... evangelicals have relied upon populist strengths and rhetoric rather
than addressing the gatekeepers of modern society ... evangelicals have
chosen to rely on a rhetoric of protest, pronouncement, and picketing rather
than persuasion.


p. 25


.... slow retreat from the Christian mind to the creation of a "ghost mind."
..... slow rise of a mass mind and the creation of an "idiot culture."


p. 30


The false antagonisms of that sort of either / or thinking have become a
standard feature of evangelicalism ... In terms of a Christian mind, we
evangelicals characteristically pit "heart" versus "head" and opt for the
heart as the more spiritual choice.


p. 31


.... "heart" in the Bible is more a matter of understanding than sentiment -
so "heart" versus "head' is a false choice.


p. 32


John Wesley , the founder of Methodism, had said, "It is a fundamental
principal with us that to renounce reason is to renounce religion, that
religion and reason go hand in hand, that irrational religion is false
religion."


p. 62


....evangelical artists - and poets, scriptwriters, sculptors, dancers and
actors - as the least understood and most alienated single group of people
in the evangelical churches.


p.  72


.... the inability to read anything but the shallowest texts is equally
widespread.  ... the body of Christ often gives the appearance of the
uncontrolled movements of a paraplegic.


p.  93


The result is a form of the faith that is Christian Lite.


p. 116


.... Christian discourse is beginning to take on some of the characteristics
of tabloid and talk-show truth.  For a start, we have our own frenzied
circulation of myths and "psycho-facts" - beliefs hat become true because we
feel they are true even if they are not; or beliefs that are not supported
by hard evidence but are taken as real because their constant repetition
changes the way we view life.


p. 132


Let My people think.


p.  140


.... "All truth is God's truth," so we can welcome truth wherever it is to be
found, even among pagans.  But equally, "all that is not of God is not of
truth" and therefore not for us, even if it is we who believe it devoutly.


p. 143


A fourth misconception concerns the idea that thinking Christianly is a form
of uniformity - in other words, that if we all think Christianly we will all
think the same way.  When this happens, the goal of thinking Christianly
collapses into a frantic search for the one particular correct way of
thinking or acting.  The result is he fallacy of "particularism", the
uniformity of a particular "Christianly Correct" way of thinking.
....[particularism] denies two requirements of thinking Christianly that
oppose all uniformity:  the importance of diversity and the fact of human
fallibility.


p. 143 - 144


For another thing, applying the idea of uniformity is disastrous because it
leads inevitably to legalism and judgementalism.  There is only a short and
easy step from "This is the Christian way" to "There is only one Christian
way" to "Anything different from this Christian way is not Christian" to
"All those who differ from my way are not Christians".


p. 151


One of the greatest sadnesses of a thinking evangelical is knowing the
thousands who have left, and are still leaving, evangelicalism because
evangelicals do not think.


p. 152


Dorothy L Sayers ... "The cultivation of religious emotion without
philosophic basis," she explained, "is thoroughly pernicious." ...One of the
great legacies for those of us who knew the late Francis Schaeffer was that
the truth mattered to him.  He took God seriously, he took people seriously
and he took truth seriously.  Friederich Nietsche's aphorism could be
applied to him, "All truths are bloody truths to me."


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