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date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 23:38:50 -0000,    group: uk.education.home-education        back       
Why Schools Don't Educate   
http://www.naturalchild.org/guest/john_gatto.html
Why Schools Don't Educate

by John Taylor Gatto

I accept this award on behalf of all the fine teachers I've known over the 
years who've struggled to make their transactions with children honorable 
ones, men and women who are never complacent, always questioning, always 
wrestling to define and redefine endlessly what the word "education" should 
mean. A Teacher of the Year is not the best teacher around, those people are 
too quiet to be easily uncovered, but he is a standard-bearer, symbolic of 
these private people who spend their lives gladly in the service of 
children. This is their award as well as mine.

We live in a time of great school crisis. Our children rank at the bottom of 
nineteen industrial nations in reading, writing and arithmetic. At the very 
bottom. The world's narcotic economy is based upon our own consumption of 
the commodity, if we didn't buy so many powdered dreams the business would 
collapse - and schools are an important sales outlet. Our teenage suicide 
rate is the highest in the world and suicidal kids are rich kids for the 
most part, not the poor. In Manhattan fifty per cent of all new marriages 
last less than five years. So something is wrong for sure.

Our school crisis is a reflection of this greater social crisis. We seem to 
have lost our identity. Children and old people are penned up and locked 
away from the business of the world to a degree without precedent - nobody 
talks to them anymore and without children and old people mixing in daily 
life a community has no future and no past, only a continuous present. In 
fact, the name "community" hardly applies to the way we interact with each 
other. We live in networks, not communities, and everyone I know is lonely 
because of that. In some strange way school is a major actor in this tragedy 
just as it is a major actor in the widening guilt among social classes. 
Using school as a sorting mechanism we appear to be on the way to creating a 
caste system, complete with untouchables who wander through subway trains 
begging and sleep on the streets.

I've noticed a fascinating phenomenon in my twenty-five years of teaching - 
that schools and schooling are increasingly irrelevant to the great 
enterprises of the planet. No one believes anymore that scientists are 
trained in science classes or politicians in civics classes or poets in 
English classes. The truth is that schools don't really teach anything 
except how to obey orders. This is a great mystery to me because thousands 
of humane, caring people work in schools as teachers and aides and 
administrators but the abstract logic of the institution overwhelms their 
individual contributions. Although teachers do care and do work very hard, 
the institution is psychopathic - it has no conscience. It rings a bell and 
the young man in the middle of writing a poem must close his notebook and 
move to different cell where he must memorize that man and monkeys derive 
from a common ancestor.

Our form of compulsory schooling is an invention of the state of 
Massachusetts around 1850. It was resisted - sometimes with guns - by an 
estimated eighty per cent of the Massachusetts population, the last outpost 
in Barnstable on Cape Cod not surrendering its children until the 1880's 
when the area was seized by militia and children marched to school under 
guard.

Now here is a curious idea to ponder. Senator Ted Kennedy's office released 
a paper not too long ago claiming that prior to compulsory education the 
state literacy rate was 98% and after it the figure never again reached 
above 91% where it stands in 1990. I hope that interests you.

Here is another curiosity to think about. The homeschooling movement has 
quietly grown to a size where one and a half million young people are being 
educated entirely by their own parents. Last month the education press 
reported the amazing news that children schooled at home seem to be five or 
even ten years ahead of their formally trained peers in their ability to 
think.

I don't think we'll get rid of schools anytime soon, certainly not in my 
lifetime, but if we're going to change what is rapidly becoming a disaster 
of ignorance, we need to realize that the school institution "schools" very 
well, but it does not "educate" - that's inherent in the design of the 
thing. It's not the fault of bad teachers or too little money spent, it's 
just impossible for education and schooling ever to be the same thing.

Schools were designed by Horace Mann and Barnard Sears and Harper of the 
University of Chicago and Thorndyke of Columbia Teachers College and some 
other men to be instruments of the scientific management of a mass 
population. Schools are intended to produce through the application of 
formulae, formulaic human beings whose behavior can be predicted and 
controlled.

To a very great extent, schools succeed in doing this. But our society is 
disintegrating, and in such a society, the only successful people are 
self-reliant, confident, and individualistic - because the community life 
which protects the dependent and the weak is dead. The products of schooling 
are, as I've said, irrelevant. Well-schooled people are irrelevant. They can 
sell film and razor blades, push paper and talk on the telephones, or sit 
mindlessly before a flickering computer terminal but as human beings they 
are useless. Useless to others and useless to themselves.

The daily misery around us is, I think, in large measure caused by the fact 
that - as Paul Goodman put it thirty years ago - we force children to grow 
up absurd. Any reform in schooling has to deal with its absurdities.

It is absurd and anti-life to be part of a system that compels you to sit in 
confinement with people of exactly the same age and social class. That 
system effectively cuts you off from the immense diversity of life and the 
synergy of variety, indeed it cuts you off from your own part and future, 
scaling you to a continuous present much the same way television does.

It is absurd and anti-life to be part of a system that compels you to listen 
to a stranger reading poetry when you want to learn to construct buildings, 
or to sit with a stranger discussing the construction of buildings when you 
want to read poetry.

It is absurd and anti-life to move from cell to cell at the sound of a gong 
for every day of your natural youth in an institution that allows you no 
privacy and even follows you into the sanctuary of your home demanding that 
you do its "homework".

"How will they learn to read?" you say and my answer is "Remember the 
lessons of Massachusetts." When children are given whole lives instead of 
age-graded ones in cellblocks they learn to read, write, and do arithmetic 
with ease if those things make sense in the kind of life that unfolds around 
them.

But keep in mind that in the United States almost nobody who reads, writes 
or does arithmetic gets much respect. We are a land of talkers, we pay 
talkers the most and admire talkers the most, and so our children talk 
constantly, following the public models of television and schoolteachers. It 
is very difficult to teach the "basics" anymore because they really aren't 
basic to the society we've made.

Two institutions at present control our children's lives - television and 
schooling, in that order. Both of these reduce the real world of wisdom, 
fortitude, temperance, and justice to a never-ending, non-stopping 
abstraction. In centuries past the time of a child and adolescent would be 
occupied in real work, real charity, real adventures, and the realistic 
search for mentors who might teach what you really wanted to learn. A great 
deal of time was spent in community pursuits, practicing affection, meeting 
and studying every level of the community, learning how to make a home, and 
dozens of other tasks necessary to become a whole man or woman.

But here is the calculus of time the children I teach must deal with:

Out of the 168 hours in each week, my children sleep 56. That leaves them 
112 hours a week out of which to fashion a self.

My children watch 55 hours of television a week according to recent reports. 
That leaves them 57 hours a week in which to grow up.

My children attend school 30 hours a week, use about 6 hours getting ready, 
going and coming home, and spend an average of 7 hours a week in homework - 
a total of 45 hours. During that time, they are under constant surveillance, 
have no private time or private space, and are disciplined if they try to 
assert individuality in the use of time or space. That leaves 12 hours a 
week out of which to create a unique consciousness. Of course, my kids eat, 
and that takes some time - not much, because they've lost the tradition of 
family dining, but if we allot 3 hours a week to evening meals, we arrive at 
a net amount of private time for each child of 9 hours.

It's not enough. It's not enough, is it? The richer the kid, or course, the 
less television he watches but the rich kid's time is just as narrowly 
proscribed by a somewhat broader catalog of commercial entertainments and 
his inevitable assignment to a series of private lessons in areas seldom of 
his actual choice.

And these things are oddly enough just a more cosmetic way to create 
dependent human beings, unable to fill their own hours, unable to initiate 
lines of meaning to give substance and pleasure to their existence. It's a 
national disease, this dependency and aimlessness, and I think schooling and 
television and lessons - the entire Chautauqua idea - has a lot to do with 
it.

Think of the things that are killing us as a nation - narcotic drugs, 
brainless competition, recreational sex, the pornography of violence, 
gambling, alcohol, and the worst pornography of all - lives devoted to 
buying things, accumulation as a philosophy - all of them are addictions of 
dependent personalities, and that is what our brand of schooling must 
inevitably produce.

I want to tell you what the effect is on children of taking all their time 
from them - time they need to grow up - and forcing them to spend it on 
abstractions. You need to hear this, because no reform that doesn't attack 
these specific pathologies will be anything more than a facade.

1. The children I teach are indifferent to the adult world. This defies the 
experience of thousands of years. A close study of what big people were up 
to was always the most exciting occupation of youth, but nobody wants to 
grow up these days and who can blame them? Toys are us.

2. The children I teach have almost no curiosity and what they do have is 
transitory; they cannot concentrate for very long, even on things they 
choose to do. Can you see a connection between the bells ringing again and 
again to change classes and this phenomenon of evanescent attention?

3. The children I teach have a poor sense of the future, of how tomorrow is 
inextricably linked to today. As I said before, they have a continuous 
present, the exact moment they are at is the boundary of their 
consciousness.

4. The children I teach are ahistorical, they have no sense of how past has 
predestined their own present, limiting their choices, shaping their values 
and lives.

5. The children I teach are cruel to each other, they lack compassion for 
misfortune, they laugh at weakness, and they have contempt for people whose 
need for help shows too plainly.

6. The children I teach are uneasy with intimacy or candor. My guess is that 
they are like many adopted people I've known in this respect - they cannot 
deal with genuine intimacy because of a lifelong habit of preserving a 
secret inner self inside a larger outer personality made up of artificial 
bits and pieces of behavior borrowed from television or acquired to 
manipulate teachers. Because they are not who they represent themselves to 
be the disguise wears thin in the presence of intimacy so intimate 
relationships have to be avoided.

7. The children I teach are materialistic, following the lead of 
schoolteachers who materialistically "grade" everything - and television 
mentors who offer everything in the world for free.

8. The children I teach are dependent, passive, and timid in the presence of 
new challenges. This is frequently masked by surface bravado, or by anger or 
aggressiveness but underneath is a vacuum without fortitude.

I could name a few other conditions that school reform would have to tackle 
if our national decline is to be arrested, but by now you will have grasped 
my thesis, whether you agree with it or not. Either schools have caused 
these pathologies, or television, or both. It's a simple matter [of] 
arithmetic, between schooling and television all the time the children have 
is eaten away. That's what has destroyed the American family, it is no 
longer a factor in the education of its own children. Television and 
schooling, in those things the fault must lie.

What can be done? First we need a ferocious national debate that doesn't 
quit, day after day, year after year. We need to scream and argue about this 
school thing until it is fixed or broken beyond repair, one or the other. If 
we can fix it, fine; if we cannot, then the success of homeschooling shows a 
different road to take that has great promise. Pouring the money we now pour 
into family education might kill two birds with one stone, repairing 
families as it repairs children.

Genuine reform is possible but it shouldn't cost anything. We need to 
rethink the fundamental premises of schooling and decide what it is we want 
all children to learn and why. For 140 years this nation has tried to impose 
objectives downward from the lofty command center made up of "experts", a 
central elite of social engineers. It hasn't worked. It won't work. And it 
is a gross betrayal of the democratic promise that once made this nation a 
noble experiment. The Russian attempt to create Plato's republic in Eastern 
Europe has exploded before [our] eyes, our own attempt to impose the same 
sort of central orthodoxy using the schools as an instrument is also coming 
apart at the seams, albeit more slowly and painfully. It doesn't work 
because its fundamental premises are mechanical, anti-human, and hostile to 
family life. Lives can be controlled by machine education but they will 
always fight back with weapons of social pathology - drugs, violence, 
self-destruction, indifference, and the symptoms I see in the children I 
teach.

It's high time we looked backwards to regain an educational philosophy that 
works. One I like particularly well has been a favorite of the ruling 
classes of Europe for thousands of years. I use as much of it as I can 
manage in my own teaching, as much, that is, as I can get away with given 
the present institution of compulsory schooling. I think it works just as 
well for poor children as for rich ones.

At the core of this elite system of education is the belief that 
self-knowledge is the only basis of true knowledge. Everywhere in this 
system, at every age, you will find arrangements to place the child alone in 
an unguided setting with a problem to solve. Sometimes the problem is 
fraught with great risks, such as the problem of galloping a horse or making 
it jump, but that, of course, is a problem successfully solved by thousands 
of elite children before the age of ten. Can you imagine anyone who had 
mastered such a challenge ever lacking confidence in his ability to do 
anything? Sometimes the problem is the problem of mastering solitude, as 
Thoreau did at Walden Pond, or Einstein did in the Swiss customs house.

One of my former students, Roland Legiardi-Lura, though both his parents 
were dead and he had no inheritance, took a bicycle across the United States 
alone when he was hardly out of boyhood. Is it any wonder then that in 
manhood when he decided to make a film about Nicaragua, although he had no 
money and no prior experience with film-making, that it was an international 
award-winner - even though his regular work was as a carpenter.

Right now we are taking all the time from our children that they need to 
develop self-knowledge. That has to stop. We have to invent school 
experiences that give a lot of that time back, we need to trust children 
from a very early age with independent study, perhaps arranged in school but 
which takes place away from the institutional setting. We need to invent 
curriculum where each kid has a chance to develop private uniqueness and 
self-reliance.

A short time ago I took seventy dollars and sent a twelve-year-old girl from 
my class with her non-English speaking mother on a bus down the New Jersey 
coast to take the police chief of Sea Bright to lunch and apologize for 
polluting [his] beach with a discarded Gatorade bottle. In exchange for this 
public apology I had arranged with the police chief for the girl to have a 
one-day apprenticeship in a small town police procedures. A few days later, 
two more of my twelve-year-old kids traveled alone to West First Street from 
Harlem where they began an apprenticeship with a newspaper editor, next week 
three of my kids will find themselves in the middle of the Jersey swamps at 
6 A.M., studying the mind of a trucking company president as he dispatches 
18-wheelers to Dallas, Chicago, and Los Angeles.

Are these "special" children in a "special" program? Well, in one sense, 
yes, but nobody knows about this program but the kids and myself. They're 
just nice kids from Central Harlem, bright and alert, but so badly schooled 
when they came to me that most of them can't add or subtract with any 
fluency. And not a single one knew the population of New York City or how 
far it is from New York to California.

Does that worry me? Of course, but I am confident that as they gain 
self-knowledge they'll also become self-teachers - and only self-teaching 
has any lasting value.

We've got to give kids independent time right away because that is the key 
to self-knowledge, and we must re-involve them with the real world as fast 
as possible so that the independent time can be spent on something other 
than more abstraction. This is an emergency, it requires drastic action to 
correct - our children are dying like flies in schooling, good schooling or 
bad schooling, it's all the same. Irrelevant.

What else does a restructured school system need? It needs to stop being a 
parasite on the working community. Of all the pages in the human ledger, 
only our tortured entry has warehoused children and asked nothing of them in 
service to the general good. For a while I think we need to make community 
service a required part of schooling. Besides the experience in acting 
unselfishly that will teach, it is the quickest way to give young children 
real responsibility in the mainstream of life.

For five years I ran a guerilla program where I had every kid, rich and 
poor, smart and dipsy, give 320 hours a year of hard community service. 
Dozens of those kids came back to me years later, grown up, and told me that 
one experience of helping someone else changed their lives. It taught them 
to see in new ways, to rethink goals and values. It happened when they were 
thirteen, in my Lab School program - only made possible because my rich 
school district was in chaos. When "stability" returned the Lab was closed. 
It was too successful with a wildly mixed group of kids, at too small of a 
cost, to be allowed to continue. We made the expensive elite programs look 
bad.

There is no shortage of real problems in the city. Kids can be asked to help 
solve them in exchange for the respect and attention of the total adult 
world. Good for kids, good for all the rest of us. That's curriculum that 
teaches Justice, one of the four cardinal virtues in every system of elite 
education. What's sauce for the rich and powerful is surely sauce for the 
rest of us - what is more, the idea is absolutely free as are all other 
genuine reform ideas in education. Extra money and extra people put into 
this sick institution will only make it sicker.

Independent study, community service, adventures in experience, large doses 
of privacy and solitude, a thousand different apprenticeships, the one day 
variety or longer - these are all powerful, cheap and effective ways to 
start a real reform of schooling. But no large-scale reform is ever going to 
work to repair our damaged children and our damaged society until we force 
the idea of "school" open - to include family as the main engine of 
education. The Swedes realized that in 1976 when they effectively abandoned 
the system of adopting unwanted children and instead spent national time and 
treasure on reinforcing the original family so that children born to Swedes 
were wanted. They didn't succeed completely but they did succeed in reducing 
the number of unwanted Swedish children from 6000 in l976 to 15 in 1986. So 
it can be done. The Swedes just got tired of paying for the social wreckage 
caused by children not raised by their natural parents so they did something 
about it. We can, too.

Family is the main engine of education. If we use schooling to break 
children away from parents - and make no mistake, that has been the central 
function of schools since John Cotton announced it as the purpose of the Bay 
Colony schools in 1650 and Horace Mann announced it as the purpose of 
Massachusetts schools in 1850 - we're going to continue to have the horror 
show we have right now. The curriculum of family is at the heart of any good 
life, we've gotten away from that curriculum, time to return to it. The way 
to sanity in education is for our schools to take the lead in releasing the 
stranglehold of institutions on family life, to promote during school time 
confluences of parent and child that will strengthen family bonds. That was 
my real purpose in sending the girl and her mother down the Jersey coast to 
meet the police chief. I have many ideas to make a family curriculum and my 
guess is that a lot of you will have many ideas, too, once you begin to 
think about it. Our greatest problem in getting the kind of grass-roots 
thinking going that could reform schooling is that we have large vested 
interests pre-emptying all the air time and profiting from schooling just 
exactly as it is despite rhetoric to the contrary. We have to demand that 
new voices and new ideas get a hearing, my ideas and yours. We've all had a 
bellyful of authorized voices mediated by television and the press - a 
decade long free-for-all debate is what is called for now, not any more 
"expert" opinions. Experts in education have never been right, their 
"solutions" are expensive, self-serving, and always involve further 
centralization. Enough. Time for a return to Democracy, Individuality, and 
family. I've said my piece. Thank you.

This article is the text of a speech by John Taylor Gatto accepting the New 
York City Teacher of the Year Award on January 31, 1990.
date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 23:38:50 -0000   author:   oO

Re: Why Schools Don't Educate   
In alt.conspiracy oO  wrote:
:  http://www.naturalchild.org/guest/john_gatto.html
: Why Schools Don't Educate

: by John Taylor Gatto

<BIG SNIP>

beginning at Lock Haven Teachers College in the 60s, i've remained at the
edges of the Public Education debate. My goal was to be a great chemistry
teacher... then a great geochemistry teacher, then, a good-enough
archeaologist, an ok anthropologist, a helping humanist psychologist,
through years of recruiting inner-city kids to summer college camps,
long years of independent consulting school systems to expand their
programs to expanding self-discovery education, i chucked it all after
12yrs to survive as a book publisher... now everything you write is
well in focus, but with NEA funding and countless layers of summer-
vacationing teachers, the condition is far worse than you think!
College graduates (MBA candidates) and their kids are hopelessly
illiterate, repressed, aimless and buried to levels of greeters at
walmart. I still press on, but do not share any of your optimism.
See a recent newsgroup discussion about a simple 6th grade physics
problem about a cannonball @ 32' shot at 1000'/sec... there were
well over 250 replies... few correct answers!

it's hopeless!
date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 02:33:42 +0000 (UTC)   author:   AND Books

Re: Why Schools Don't Educate   
In article <dug726$8l1$1@e250.ripco.com>, andbooks@ripco.com says...
>
>In alt.conspiracy oO  wrote:
>:  http://www.naturalchild.org/guest/john_gatto.html
>: Why Schools Don't Educate
>
>: by John Taylor Gatto
>
><BIG SNIP>
>
>beginning at Lock Haven Teachers College in the 60s, i've remained at the
>edges of the Public Education debate. My goal was to be a great chemistry
>teacher... then a great geochemistry teacher, then, a good-enough
>archeaologist, an ok anthropologist, a helping humanist psychologist,
>through years of recruiting inner-city kids to summer college camps,
>long years of independent consulting school systems to expand their
>programs to expanding self-discovery education, i chucked it all after
>12yrs to survive as a book publisher... now everything you write is
>well in focus, but with NEA funding and countless layers of summer-
>vacationing teachers, the condition is far worse than you think!
>College graduates (MBA candidates) and their kids are hopelessly
>illiterate, repressed, aimless and buried to levels of greeters at
>walmart. I still press on, but do not share any of your optimism.
>See a recent newsgroup discussion about a simple 6th grade physics
>problem about a cannonball @ 32' shot at 1000'/sec... there were
>well over 250 replies... few correct answers!
>
>it's hopeless!
>
> 
Well, since gravity causes all objects to fall at a rate of 32 feet per second 
squared, and horizontal and vertical vectors of inertia are independant, I'd 
say a cannnonball shot horizontally at a height of 32 feet would travel 1000 
feet before it hit the ground.
date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 21:25:32 -0600   author:   spiced-ham? (Don)

Re: Why Schools Don't Educate   
In alt.conspiracy Don <spiced-ham?No@big.isp> wrote:
: In article <dug726$8l1$1@e250.ripco.com>, andbooks@ripco.com says...
:>
:>In alt.conspiracy oO  wrote:
:>:  http://www.naturalchild.org/guest/john_gatto.html
:>: Why Schools Don't Educate
:>
:>: by John Taylor Gatto
:>
:><BIG SNIP>
:>
:>beginning at Lock Haven Teachers College in the 60s, i've remained at the
:>edges of the Public Education debate. My goal was to be a great chemistry
:>teacher... then a great geochemistry teacher, then, a good-enough
:>archeaologist, an ok anthropologist, a helping humanist psychologist,
:>through years of recruiting inner-city kids to summer college camps,
:>long years of independent consulting school systems to expand their
:>programs to expanding self-discovery education, i chucked it all after
:>12yrs to survive as a book publisher... now everything you write is
:>well in focus, but with NEA funding and countless layers of summer-
:>vacationing teachers, the condition is far worse than you think!
:>College graduates (MBA candidates) and their kids are hopelessly
:>illiterate, repressed, aimless and buried to levels of greeters at
:>walmart. I still press on, but do not share any of your optimism.
:>See a recent newsgroup discussion about a simple 6th grade physics
:>problem about a cannonball @ 32' shot at 1000'/sec... there were
:>well over 250 replies... few correct answers!
:>
:>it's hopeless!
:>
:> 
: Well, since gravity causes all objects to fall at a rate of 32 feet per second 
: squared, and horizontal and vertical vectors of inertia are independant, I'd 
: say a cannnonball shot horizontally at a height of 32 feet would travel 1000 
: feet before it hit the ground.

wow!

methinks you got my point... are you an astrophysicist or what?
better, you kan read... and even think!
gneiss!

btw checkout this thread on alt.survivalist, it is truly funny!



--
date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 05:07:39 +0000 (UTC)   author:   AND Books

Re: Why Schools Don't Educate   
In article , Don <spiced-
ham?No@big.isp> writes
>In article <dug726$8l1$1@e250.ripco.com>, andbooks@ripco.com says...
>>
>>In alt.conspiracy oO  wrote:
>>:  http://www.naturalchild.org/guest/john_gatto.html
>>: Why Schools Don't Educate
>>
>>: by John Taylor Gatto
>>
>><BIG SNIP>
>>
>>beginning at Lock Haven Teachers College in the 60s, i've remained at the
>>edges of the Public Education debate. My goal was to be a great chemistry
>>teacher... then a great geochemistry teacher, then, a good-enough
>>archeaologist, an ok anthropologist, a helping humanist psychologist,
>>through years of recruiting inner-city kids to summer college camps,
>>long years of independent consulting school systems to expand their
>>programs to expanding self-discovery education, i chucked it all after
>>12yrs to survive as a book publisher... now everything you write is
>>well in focus, but with NEA funding and countless layers of summer-
>>vacationing teachers, the condition is far worse than you think!
>>College graduates (MBA candidates) and their kids are hopelessly
>>illiterate, repressed, aimless and buried to levels of greeters at
>>walmart. I still press on, but do not share any of your optimism.
>>See a recent newsgroup discussion about a simple 6th grade physics
>>problem about a cannonball @ 32' shot at 1000'/sec... there were
>>well over 250 replies... few correct answers!
>>
>>it's hopeless!
>>
>> 
>Well, since gravity causes all objects to fall at a rate of 32 feet per second 
>squared, and horizontal and vertical vectors of inertia are independant, I'd 
>say a cannnonball shot horizontally at a height of 32 feet would travel 1000 
>feet before it hit the ground.

You're assuming it would take 1 second to fall 32 feet, which is not so.

(It would take 1 second to reach a vertical velocity of 32 feet per
second - same as everything does, that falls freely from rest - but
that's different).

vertical:
s = (1/2) * a * (t^2)
32 = (1/2) * 32 * (t^2)
32 = 16 t^2
t^2 = 2
t = 1.414 sec

horizontal:
distance = 1000 * 1.414 = 1414 feet

-- 
banana     "The thing I hate about you, Rowntree, is the way you
            give Coca-Cola to your scum, and your best teddy-bear to
            Oxfam, and expect us to lick your frigid fingers for the
            rest of your frigid life." (Mick Travis, 'If...', 1968)
date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 20:32:27 +0000   author:   banana

Re: Why Schools Don't Educate   
Your profound thoughts on school education are noted with interest. I
can also empathise with your frustration on our educations system's
inability to deliver the goods! No doubt in this fast paced age of
constant change and chaos time is at a premium to most of us. Today the
dilemma faced by both parents and teachers is how to balance there own
lives with that of caring for their children's education. While
television is a product of technology and might be described as the
devil in disguise, there is sufficient justification in harnessing the
use of modern technology to add value to a child's learning experience.
Take a look at this audio program and work book programme that is
designed for students, it might just be the answer to the concerned
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date: 7 Mar 2006 00:53:19 -0800   author:   unknown

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