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date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:46:27 +0100,
group: uk.comp.misc
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Pandex trojan - Norton and AVG fail to remove it
Has anyone had problems removing the Pandex trojan from a PC which is
infected? This trojan sends spam via a variety of SMTP servers.
A customer has Norton 360 which successfully identifies that it has found
Pandex, even during its boot-up checks, and during a virus scan it claims to
have removed it and needs a reboot to finalise the process. But after the
boot the thing is still there: you can see Norton trapping some of the
emails and displaying suitable error messages.
I've scanned in Safe Mode with no networking. I've temporarily installed AVG
Free and scanned with that in Safe Mode: it claimed to find and disinfect a
trojan in winlogon.exe. But still the virus is present.
I've also scanned with Spybot 1.6 and removed the threats that it found.
I can't see any rogue programs being started in Start | Programs | Startup
or HKCU/HKLM | Software | Microsoft | Windows | Current Version | Run.
Any suggestions? The various "How do I remove Pandex" articles found from a
Google search seem to imply that Norton, AVG, Panda and Kaspersky will find
and remove Pandex successfully.
It's getting to the stage where a rebuild might be quicker than
investigating further...
date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:46:27 +0100
author: Mortimer
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Re: Pandex trojan - Norton and AVG fail to remove it
Mortimer wrote:
> Has anyone had problems removing the Pandex trojan from a PC which is
> infected? This trojan sends spam via a variety of SMTP servers.
>
> A customer has Norton 360 which successfully identifies that it has found
> Pandex, even during its boot-up checks, and during a virus scan it claims to
> have removed it and needs a reboot to finalise the process. But after the
> boot the thing is still there: you can see Norton trapping some of the
> emails and displaying suitable error messages.
See
<http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2007-042001-1448-99&tabid=1>
Or enter 'pandex' in symantec's search page on
<http://www.symantec.com/security_response/>
The technical details page shows the name of files and settings that
have been added or changed by the trojan. Do these changes exist?
Click the removals tab for removal details - Yes, Symantec products will
remove it but you have to disable system restore first.
When the time comes, don't renew a subscription to Norton 360. Although
it has 'caught' the virus, the dumbing down of vital information and
sense of false security that is given to casual PC users, is IMO
dangerous. Norton do better products and so do the competition.
Resources here : http://www.getsafeonline.org/
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Adrian C
date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:42:23 +0100
author: Adrian C lid
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Re: Pandex trojan - Norton and AVG fail to remove it
"Adrian C" <email@here.invalid> wrote in message
news:6eoco1F85s77U1@mid.individual.net...
> Mortimer wrote:
>> Has anyone had problems removing the Pandex trojan from a PC which is
>> infected? This trojan sends spam via a variety of SMTP servers.
>>
>> A customer has Norton 360 which successfully identifies that it has found
>> Pandex, even during its boot-up checks, and during a virus scan it claims
>> to have removed it and needs a reboot to finalise the process. But after
>> the boot the thing is still there: you can see Norton trapping some of
>> the emails and displaying suitable error messages.
>
> See
> <http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2007-042001-1448-99&tabid=1>
>
> Or enter 'pandex' in symantec's search page on
> <http://www.symantec.com/security_response/>
>
> The technical details page shows the name of files and settings that have
> been added or changed by the trojan. Do these changes exist?
>
> Click the removals tab for removal details - Yes, Symantec products will
> remove it but you have to disable system restore first.
Yes I disabled System Restore. I also checked for the various tell-tale
signs that the virus had been there (files created, registry values
created), as described on the Technical Details tabsheet of the page that
you mention. All of these except
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\ip6fw did not exist
(and so maybe had already been cleaned up); I deleted ip6fw manually.
However it came back on the next boot and Norton still displayed a pop-up
about Pandex and the PC still tried to send messages to various SMTP
servers, as shown in one of Norton's logs.
In their description, does their use of the word "drops" (as in "The Trojan
also drops one of following files: %System%\drivers\ip6fw.sys /
%System%\drivers\netdtect.sys") mean "creates the file it does not already
exist and modifies/infects if it does already exist"?
date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:40:58 +0100
author: Mortimer
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Re: Pandex trojan - Norton and AVG fail to remove it
Mortimer wrote:
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> In their description, does their use of the word "drops" (as in "The Trojan
> also drops one of following files: %System%\drivers\ip6fw.sys /
> %System%\drivers\netdtect.sys") mean "creates the file it does not already
> exist and modifies/infects if it does already exist"?
>
A "drop" will be a file replacement or creation. Some virus writers have
been known to go to war with other virus writers and replace each others
files. Sometimes this crashes PCs :-(
Googing "virus forums pandex" or "virus forums Cutwail" might give some
insight to fixes. This virus unfortunatley download its own updates and
has rootkit hooks into the compromised machine.
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Adrian C
date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:39:28 +0100
author: Adrian C lid
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Re: Pandex trojan - Norton and AVG fail to remove it
"Mortimer" wrote in message
news:mY2dnbj9HPJ1chvVnZ2dnUVZ8tXinZ2d@posted.plusnet...
> Has anyone had problems removing the Pandex trojan from a PC which is
> infected? This trojan sends spam via a variety of SMTP servers.
>
> A customer
Pass his details on to me and I'll contact him directly. If he knew you
were charging to
pass on information you got for free on a newsgroup he might be annoyed.
What's your company called so we can spread the word to avoid it!
Best leaving it to the experts, people like you that play about without
knowing what
you're doing often cause far more problems - and you will look silly when
you have
to hand it back!
date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:09:24 +0100
author: Paul P
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Re: Pandex trojan - Norton and AVG fail to remove it
Paul P wrote:
> Pass his details on to me and I'll contact him directly.
You forgot, your email address doesn't work!!!!
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Adrian C
date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:05:21 +0100
author: Adrian C lid
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