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date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:21:22 -0000,    group: uk.comp.misc        back       
Speeding up slow XP PCs - suggested remedies when you've tried the obvious   
When a Windows XP runs painfully slowly, there are lots of magazine articles 
which suggest the same old things to try: uninstall programs that aren't 
needed; scan for viruses and spyware using AdAware and/or Spybot; add more 
memory; defrag hard disk; remove any unnecessary programs from All Programs 
| Startup and the HKCU/KHLM | Run sections of the registry.

But can anyone suggest a good book or magazine article which goes one stage 
further and suggests other remedies for when the default ones don't fix the 
problem?




For example I'm trying to speed up a customer's PC at the moment.
The symptom is very long boot times (about 1 minute each on the Windows logo 
and the Welcome screens, and a total of 5 minutes before clicking an icon on 
the desktop will actually run a program. New programs (or even Control 
Panel) take a minute or so to begin after clicking on icons (with lots of 
disk thrashing) and repainting of the screen when a window is moved to 
reveal another one can take 30 seconds.

Task Manager says there's no excessive CPU usage (normally about 98% idle 
process) and the Available memory is around 100 MB ("low memory" disk 
thrashing usually happens when you get down to 10 MB or less). There are no 
unwanted programs in Add/Remove Programs. I can't see any unnecessary 
Startup and HKCU/HKLM | Run entries. AdAware 2007 and Spybot 1.5 now give a 
clean bill of health (although they initially removed a lot of crap!). The 
disk now has 0% file and volume fragmentation (originally 36% fragmented!).
date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:21:22 -0000   author:   Mortimer

Re: Speeding up slow XP PCs - suggested remedies when you've tried the obvious   
Mortimer wrote:

> When a Windows XP runs painfully slowly, there are lots of magazine
> articles which suggest the same old things to try: uninstall programs that
> aren't needed; scan for viruses and spyware using AdAware and/or Spybot;
> add more memory; defrag hard disk; remove any unnecessary programs from
> All Programs
> | Startup and the HKCU/KHLM | Run sections of the registry.
> 
> But can anyone suggest a good book or magazine article which goes one
> stage further and suggests other remedies for when the default ones don't
> fix the problem?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> For example I'm trying to speed up a customer's PC at the moment.
> The symptom is very long boot times (about 1 minute each on the Windows
> logo and the Welcome screens, and a total of 5 minutes before clicking an
> icon on the desktop will actually run a program. New programs (or even
> Control Panel) take a minute or so to begin after clicking on icons (with
> lots of disk thrashing) and repainting of the screen when a window is
> moved to reveal another one can take 30 seconds.
> 
> Task Manager says there's no excessive CPU usage (normally about 98% idle
> process) and the Available memory is around 100 MB ("low memory" disk
> thrashing usually happens when you get down to 10 MB or less). There are
> no unwanted programs in Add/Remove Programs. I can't see any unnecessary
> Startup and HKCU/HKLM | Run entries. AdAware 2007 and Spybot 1.5 now give
> a clean bill of health (although they initially removed a lot of crap!).
> The disk now has 0% file and volume fragmentation (originally 36%
> fragmented!).

Failing hard disk?

What is the machine spec?

Chris

-- 
Remove prejudice to reply.
date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 09:24:42 GMT   author:   Chris Whelan

Re: Speeding up slow XP PCs - suggested remedies when you've tried the obvious   
Mortimer wrote:
> When a Windows XP runs painfully slowly, there are lots of magazine articles 
> which suggest the same old things to try: uninstall programs that aren't 
> needed; scan for viruses and spyware using AdAware and/or Spybot; add more 
> memory; defrag hard disk; remove any unnecessary programs from All Programs 
> | Startup and the HKCU/KHLM | Run sections of the registry.
> 
> But can anyone suggest a good book or magazine article which goes one stage 
> further and suggests other remedies for when the default ones don't fix the 
> problem?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> For example I'm trying to speed up a customer's PC at the moment.
> The symptom is very long boot times (about 1 minute each on the Windows logo 
> and the Welcome screens, and a total of 5 minutes before clicking an icon on 
> the desktop will actually run a program. New programs (or even Control 
> Panel) take a minute or so to begin after clicking on icons (with lots of 
> disk thrashing) and repainting of the screen when a window is moved to 
> reveal another one can take 30 seconds.
> 
> Task Manager says there's no excessive CPU usage (normally about 98% idle 
> process) and the Available memory is around 100 MB ("low memory" disk 
> thrashing usually happens when you get down to 10 MB or less). There are no 
> unwanted programs in Add/Remove Programs. I can't see any unnecessary 

I tend to work on the assumption they are *all* unnecessary :-)

> Startup and HKCU/HKLM | Run entries. AdAware 2007 and Spybot 1.5 now give a 
> clean bill of health (although they initially removed a lot of crap!). The 
> disk now has 0% file and volume fragmentation (originally 36% fragmented!). 
> 
> 

This system I'm using runs with 50MB free physical (it's only 224MB + 
32MB graphics) and none of those problems, however, letting the disk 
space drop for temp and paging can have an effect out of proportion - 
especially if you allow hibernation when not required (power 
options/hibernate), which eats up disk space "just in case" :-(

Just a thought - it's not looking for a network printer is it? I have 
seen systems virtually halt when the default printer is a network 
device. Installing a "print to file" printer as default was an instant 
cure :-)

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knowledge or consent of the computer user. Software should also be able 
to be removed from a computer easily."
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date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 09:51:07 +0000   author:   PeeGee

Re: Speeding up slow XP PCs - suggested remedies when you've tried the obvious   
"Chris Whelan"  wrote in message 
news:u1fqj.1128$nG4.711@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
> Mortimer wrote:
>
>> When a Windows XP runs painfully slowly, there are lots of magazine
>> articles which suggest the same old things to try: uninstall programs 
>> that
>> aren't needed; scan for viruses and spyware using AdAware and/or Spybot;
>> add more memory; defrag hard disk; remove any unnecessary programs from
>> All Programs
>> | Startup and the HKCU/KHLM | Run sections of the registry.
>>
>> But can anyone suggest a good book or magazine article which goes one
>> stage further and suggests other remedies for when the default ones don't
>> fix the problem?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> For example I'm trying to speed up a customer's PC at the moment.
>> The symptom is very long boot times (about 1 minute each on the Windows
>> logo and the Welcome screens, and a total of 5 minutes before clicking an
>> icon on the desktop will actually run a program. New programs (or even
>> Control Panel) take a minute or so to begin after clicking on icons (with
>> lots of disk thrashing) and repainting of the screen when a window is
>> moved to reveal another one can take 30 seconds.
>>
>> Task Manager says there's no excessive CPU usage (normally about 98% idle
>> process) and the Available memory is around 100 MB ("low memory" disk
>> thrashing usually happens when you get down to 10 MB or less). There are
>> no unwanted programs in Add/Remove Programs. I can't see any unnecessary
>> Startup and HKCU/HKLM | Run entries. AdAware 2007 and Spybot 1.5 now give
>> a clean bill of health (although they initially removed a lot of crap!).
>> The disk now has 0% file and volume fragmentation (originally 36%
>> fragmented!).
>
> Failing hard disk?
>
> What is the machine spec?

Celeron 1800 with 256 MB RAM,  XP Home SP2, 80 GB HDD (70 GB free), 384 MB 
pagefile (as recommended by XP on the pagefile screen of Control Panel | 
System) - it's an unidentified Evesham PC (there's a serial number but no 
model number sticker such as Evolution 1800 or Axis 2400)
date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:54:12 -0000   author:   Mortimer

Re: Speeding up slow XP PCs - suggested remedies when you've tried the obvious   
"Mortimer"  wrote in
news:13qj1019qaocrd5@corp.supernews.com: 

>  with 256 MB RAM


That's your startpoint. Throw another 512 (at least) in there and you'll 
notice a dramatic difference.


-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 David ~ Lincoln UK
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:05:42 -0600   author:   Grooove

Re: Speeding up slow XP PCs - suggested remedies when you've tried the obvious   
Mortimer wrote:

> "Chris Whelan"  wrote in message
> news:u1fqj.1128$nG4.711@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>> Mortimer wrote:
>>
>>> When a Windows XP runs painfully slowly, there are lots of magazine
>>> articles which suggest the same old things to try: uninstall programs
>>> that
>>> aren't needed; scan for viruses and spyware using AdAware and/or Spybot;
>>> add more memory; defrag hard disk; remove any unnecessary programs from
>>> All Programs
>>> | Startup and the HKCU/KHLM | Run sections of the registry.
>>>
>>> But can anyone suggest a good book or magazine article which goes one
>>> stage further and suggests other remedies for when the default ones
>>> don't fix the problem?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For example I'm trying to speed up a customer's PC at the moment.
>>> The symptom is very long boot times (about 1 minute each on the Windows
>>> logo and the Welcome screens, and a total of 5 minutes before clicking
>>> an icon on the desktop will actually run a program. New programs (or
>>> even Control Panel) take a minute or so to begin after clicking on icons
>>> (with lots of disk thrashing) and repainting of the screen when a window
>>> is moved to reveal another one can take 30 seconds.
>>>
>>> Task Manager says there's no excessive CPU usage (normally about 98%
>>> idle process) and the Available memory is around 100 MB ("low memory"
>>> disk thrashing usually happens when you get down to 10 MB or less).
>>> There are no unwanted programs in Add/Remove Programs. I can't see any
>>> unnecessary Startup and HKCU/HKLM | Run entries. AdAware 2007 and Spybot
>>> 1.5 now give a clean bill of health (although they initially removed a
>>> lot of crap!). The disk now has 0% file and volume fragmentation
>>> (originally 36% fragmented!).
>>
>> Failing hard disk?
>>
>> What is the machine spec?
> 
> Celeron 1800 with 256 MB RAM,  XP Home SP2, 80 GB HDD (70 GB free), 384 MB
> pagefile (as recommended by XP on the pagefile screen of Control Panel |
> System) - it's an unidentified Evesham PC (there's a serial number but no
> model number sticker such as Evolution 1800 or Axis 2400)

When XP was released, 256MB of Ram was OK, but the improvements that came
with SP2 really mean that 512MB is the minimum. I'm guessing the machine
may well have on-board graphics, which is eating in to your available Ram
also.

Having said that, the times you gave in your OP do seem excessive. It may be
worth testing the HD as your next step, either with the maker's utility or
with HDtune from here:

http://www.hdtune.com/

One further point; is a Norton malware product installed? If so, temporarily
disable it starting from msconfig/startup. (It would be inadvisable to go
online whilst doing this.) You may be as surprised as I was recently to see
what a difference it makes!

Chris

-- 
Remove prejudice to reply.
date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:25:42 GMT   author:   Chris Whelan

Re: Speeding up slow XP PCs - suggested remedies when you've tried the obvious   
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:21:22 -0000, Mortimer wrote:

<snip>

> For example I'm trying to speed up a customer's PC at the moment.
> The symptom is very long boot times (about 1 minute each on the Windows logo 
> and the Welcome screens, and a total of 5 minutes before clicking an icon on 
> the desktop will actually run a program. New programs (or even Control 
> Panel) take a minute or so to begin after clicking on icons (with lots of 
> disk thrashing) and repainting of the screen when a window is moved to 
> reveal another one can take 30 seconds.
> 
> Task Manager says there's no excessive CPU usage (normally about 98% idle 
> process) and the Available memory is around 100 MB ("low memory" disk 
> thrashing usually happens when you get down to 10 MB or less). 

Try using SysInternal's Process Explorer, instead of task manager.
Available these days on the M$ web site. It replaces task manager, and is
much more useful.

> There are no 
> unwanted programs in Add/Remove Programs. I can't see any unnecessary 
> Startup and HKCU/HKLM | Run entries. AdAware 2007 and Spybot 1.5 now give a 
> clean bill of health (although they initially removed a lot of crap!). The 
> disk now has 0% file and volume fragmentation (originally 36% fragmented!).

I have a similar problem. Whilst I have auto-updates set to occur at a time
of my choosing, usually in the small hours, Process Explorer seems to
suggest that auto-update executes regardless at boot up. My PC usually
takes two or three minutes before it settles down.  

-- 
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net
date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:31:59 +0000   author:   The Wanderer

Re: Speeding up slow XP PCs - suggested remedies when you've tried the obvious   
Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Wed, 6 Feb
2008 09:21:22 -0000, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do uk.comp.misc,
yawatina tan reek esk "Mortimer"  fornis do marikano es bono
tan el:

>When a Windows XP runs painfully slowly, there are lots of magazine articles 
>which suggest the same old things to try: uninstall programs that aren't 
>needed; scan for viruses and spyware using AdAware and/or Spybot; add more 
>memory; defrag hard disk; remove any unnecessary programs from All Programs 
>| Startup and the HKCU/KHLM | Run sections of the registry.

Try deleting (or moving if you're coward!) everything in the WINDOWS\prefetch
folder.  That should help speed up booting without any negative effects.

deKay
-- 
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 Blog - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk/blog     
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date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 11:38:12 +0000   author:   deKay

Re: Speeding up slow XP PCs - suggested remedies when you've tried the obvious   
"Mortimer"  wrote in message 
news:13qiv2nfl29p6c5@corp.supernews.com...
> When a Windows XP runs painfully slowly, there are lots of magazine 
> articles which suggest the same old things to try: uninstall programs 
> that aren't needed; scan for viruses and spyware using AdAware and/or 
> Spybot; add more memory; defrag hard disk; remove any unnecessary 
> programs from All Programs | Startup and the HKCU/KHLM | Run sections 
> of the registry.
>
> But can anyone suggest a good book or magazine article which goes one 
> stage further and suggests other remedies for when the default ones 
> don't fix the problem?
>
>
>
>
> For example I'm trying to speed up a customer's PC at the moment.
> The symptom is very long boot times (about 1 minute each on the 
> Windows logo and the Welcome screens, and a total of 5 minutes before 
> clicking an icon on the desktop will actually run a program. New 
> programs (or even Control Panel) take a minute or so to begin after 
> clicking on icons (with lots of disk thrashing) and repainting of the 
> screen when a window is moved to reveal another one can take 30 
> seconds.
>
> Task Manager says there's no excessive CPU usage (normally about 98% 
> idle process) and the Available memory is around 100 MB ("low memory" 
> disk thrashing usually happens when you get down to 10 MB or less). 
> There are no unwanted programs in Add/Remove Programs. I can't see any 
> unnecessary Startup and HKCU/HKLM | Run entries. AdAware 2007 and 
> Spybot 1.5 now give a clean bill of health (although they initially 
> removed a lot of crap!). The disk now has 0% file and volume 
> fragmentation (originally 36% fragmented!).
>

Is the HD light constantly on while it's thrashing about? If so I'd 
suggest memory shortage; and constant paging of RAM to the HD.
Answer in that case; more memory.

Ed
date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:38:53 -0000   author:   Ed Cryer

Re: Speeding up slow XP PCs - suggested remedies when you've tried the obvious   
On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:05:42 -0600, Grooove  wrote:

>"Mortimer"  wrote in
>news:13qj1019qaocrd5@corp.supernews.com: 
>
>>  with 256 MB RAM
>
>
>That's your startpoint. Throw another 512 (at least) in there and you'll 
>notice a dramatic difference.

   My present machine was nearly as slow as that before
the latest XP reinstall, and it has 3GB of memory!

-- 

Jim.

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date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:32:11 +0000   author:   Jim

Re: Speeding up slow XP PCs - suggested remedies when you've tried the obvious   
Jim  wrote in
news:on2kq3980cm4vn85vrd6qo8heu7nh7tpvh@4ax.com: 

> On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:05:42 -0600, Grooove  wrote:
> 
>>"Mortimer"  wrote in
>>news:13qj1019qaocrd5@corp.supernews.com: 
>>
>>>  with 256 MB RAM
>>
>>
>>That's your startpoint. Throw another 512 (at least) in there and
>>you'll notice a dramatic difference.
> 
>    My present machine was nearly as slow as that before
> the latest XP reinstall, and it has 3GB of memory!
> 

Quite possible I guess if it's an old and well-used installation. However 
I've just installed RAM updates into several client computers that were 
reported 'starting slowly' and the customer is very happy with the 
result.
Given that nothing else is broken I still say that's the weakest link.



-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 David ~ Lincoln UK
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:51:57 -0600   author:   Grooove

Re: Speeding up slow XP PCs - suggested remedies when you've tried the obvious   
Mortimer wrote:

> When a Windows XP runs painfully slowly, there are lots of magazine articles 
> which suggest the same old things to try: uninstall programs that aren't 
> needed; scan for viruses and spyware using AdAware and/or Spybot; add more 
> memory; defrag hard disk; remove any unnecessary programs from All Programs 
> | Startup and the HKCU/KHLM | Run sections of the registry.
> 
> But can anyone suggest a good book or magazine article which goes one stage 
> further and suggests other remedies for when the default ones don't fix the 
> problem?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> For example I'm trying to speed up a customer's PC at the moment.
> The symptom is very long boot times (about 1 minute each on the Windows logo 
> and the Welcome screens, and a total of 5 minutes before clicking an icon on 
> the desktop will actually run a program. New programs (or even Control 
> Panel) take a minute or so to begin after clicking on icons (with lots of 
> disk thrashing) and repainting of the screen when a window is moved to 
> reveal another one can take 30 seconds.
> 
> Task Manager says there's no excessive CPU usage (normally about 98% idle 
> process) and the Available memory is around 100 MB ("low memory" disk 
> thrashing usually happens when you get down to 10 MB or less). There are no 
> unwanted programs in Add/Remove Programs. I can't see any unnecessary 
> Startup and HKCU/HKLM | Run entries. AdAware 2007 and Spybot 1.5 now give a 
> clean bill of health (although they initially removed a lot of crap!). The 
> disk now has 0% file and volume fragmentation (originally 36% fragmented!). 
> 
> 
Just a guess...

How many fonts are installed?

Dave
date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:54:46 +0000   author:   Dave

Re: Speeding up slow XP PCs - suggested remedies when you've tried the obvious   
Dave wrote:
> Mortimer wrote:
> 
>> When a Windows XP runs painfully slowly, there are lots of magazine 
>> articles which suggest the same old things to try: uninstall programs 
>> that aren't needed; scan for viruses and spyware using AdAware and/or 
>> Spybot; add more memory; defrag hard disk; remove any unnecessary 
>> programs from All Programs | Startup and the HKCU/KHLM | Run sections 
>> of the registry.
>>
>> But can anyone suggest a good book or magazine article which goes one 
>> stage further and suggests other remedies for when the default ones 
>> don't fix the problem?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> For example I'm trying to speed up a customer's PC at the moment.
>> The symptom is very long boot times (about 1 minute each on the 
>> Windows logo and the Welcome screens, and a total of 5 minutes before 
>> clicking an icon on the desktop will actually run a program. New 
>> programs (or even Control Panel) take a minute or so to begin after 
>> clicking on icons (with lots of disk thrashing) and repainting of the 
>> screen when a window is moved to reveal another one can take 30 seconds.
>>
>> Task Manager says there's no excessive CPU usage (normally about 98% 
>> idle process) and the Available memory is around 100 MB ("low memory" 
>> disk thrashing usually happens when you get down to 10 MB or less). 
>> There are no unwanted programs in Add/Remove Programs. I can't see any 
>> unnecessary Startup and HKCU/HKLM | Run entries. AdAware 2007 and 
>> Spybot 1.5 now give a clean bill of health (although they initially 
>> removed a lot of crap!). The disk now has 0% file and volume 
>> fragmentation (originally 36% fragmented!).
>>
> Just a guess...
> 
> How many fonts are installed?
> 
> Dave

Is that still a problem - I know it was with Win98 etc (and I still use 
a minimum of fonts, with extras in a separate folder to install if ever 
required).

-- 
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"Nothing should be able to load itself onto a computer without the 
knowledge or consent of the computer user. Software should also be able 
to be removed from a computer easily."
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date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:49:24 +0000   author:   PeeGee

Re: Speeding up slow XP PCs - suggested remedies when you've tried the obvious   
"Mortimer"  wrote in message 
news:13qiv2nfl29p6c5@corp.supernews.com...
> When a Windows XP runs painfully slowly, there are lots of magazine 
> articles which suggest the same old things to try: uninstall programs that 
> aren't needed; scan for viruses and spyware using AdAware and/or Spybot; 
> add more memory; defrag hard disk; remove any unnecessary programs from 
> All Programs | Startup and the HKCU/KHLM | Run sections of the registry.
>
> But can anyone suggest a good book or magazine article which goes one 
> stage further and suggests other remedies for when the default ones don't 
> fix the problem?
>
>
>
>
> For example I'm trying to speed up a customer's PC at the moment.
> The symptom is very long boot times (about 1 minute each on the Windows 
> logo and the Welcome screens, and a total of 5 minutes before clicking an 
> icon on the desktop will actually run a program. New programs (or even 
> Control Panel) take a minute or so to begin after clicking on icons (with 
> lots of disk thrashing) and repainting of the screen when a window is 
> moved to reveal another one can take 30 seconds.
>
> Task Manager says there's no excessive CPU usage (normally about 98% idle 
> process) and the Available memory is around 100 MB ("low memory" disk 
> thrashing usually happens when you get down to 10 MB or less). There are 
> no unwanted programs in Add/Remove Programs. I can't see any unnecessary 
> Startup and HKCU/HKLM | Run entries. AdAware 2007 and Spybot 1.5 now give 
> a clean bill of health (although they initially removed a lot of crap!). 
> The disk now has 0% file and volume fragmentation (originally 36% 
> fragmented!).
>

            I had general slowness and an annoying problem where the whole 
system would freeze
   when scrolling, mostly in IE6 or OE, or even if I put the cursor on the 
video display screen in
   realplayer, the only choice was to press the reset button. After trying 
various re-installs etc I finally ran
   System File Checker. (Insert XP install cd and exit the autostart welcome 
screen....click Start>Run...
   type sfc /scannow at the prompt.){note space between sfc and / }
   It checks all system files against the cd and replaces any damaged or 
changed files. Mine took 3 hours  to complete, but seems to have done the 
biz.
   Secondly, running msconfig from the prompt I found several programs in 
startup that I did'nt really
   need to run at start ( In my case, bluetooth, TV tuning device with its 
various ancillary programs, Adobe updater and several of that ilk ) The 
icons are still there and these will all start when you need the main 
application.
I also moved many unwanted fonts from Windows fonts to a spare folder, as 
Windows has to load all these at startup, just be sure not to move any that 
are used in the system or by the regular user.
A lot of useful info and how-to can be found here:

               http://www.theeldergeek.com/index.htm
date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 12:07:49 GMT   author:   Mike the Brewer

Re: Speeding up slow XP PCs - suggested remedies when you've tried the obvious   
deKay wrote:
> Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Wed, 6 Feb
> 2008 09:21:22 -0000, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do uk.comp.misc,
> yawatina tan reek esk "Mortimer"  fornis do marikano es bono
> tan el:
> 
>> When a Windows XP runs painfully slowly, there are lots of magazine articles 
>> which suggest the same old things to try: uninstall programs that aren't 
>> needed; scan for viruses and spyware using AdAware and/or Spybot; add more 
>> memory; defrag hard disk; remove any unnecessary programs from All Programs 
>> | Startup and the HKCU/KHLM | Run sections of the registry.
> 
> Try deleting (or moving if you're coward!) everything in the WINDOWS\prefetch
> folder.  That should help speed up booting without any negative effects.
> 

See http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000743.html

David
date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:53:12 GMT   author:   Lobster

Re: Speeding up slow XP PCs - suggested remedies when you've tried the obvious   
"Lobster"  wrote in message 
news:sy1rj.2805$N53.100@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
> deKay wrote:
>> Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Wed, 
>> 6 Feb
>> 2008 09:21:22 -0000, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do 
>> uk.comp.misc,
>> yawatina tan reek esk "Mortimer"  fornis do marikano 
>> es bono
>> tan el:
>>
>>> When a Windows XP runs painfully slowly, there are lots of magazine 
>>> articles which suggest the same old things to try: uninstall 
>>> programs that aren't needed; scan for viruses and spyware using 
>>> AdAware and/or Spybot; add more memory; defrag hard disk; remove any 
>>> unnecessary programs from All Programs | Startup and the HKCU/KHLM | 
>>> Run sections of the registry.
>>
>> Try deleting (or moving if you're coward!) everything in the 
>> WINDOWS\prefetch
>> folder.  That should help speed up booting without any negative 
>> effects.
>>
>
> See http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000743.html
>
> David
>
>

Quite so. My Prefetch folder is currently only 3.80 MB in size, with 
files no older than a couple of days.

I tried an experiment on my Fonts folder; chopped it from 295 files to 
24; and rebooted, twice for good measure. No detectable difference to 
boot speed. So I've put them all back.

Ed
date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 19:45:51 -0000   author:   Ed Cryer

Re: Speeding up slow XP PCs - suggested remedies when you've tried the obvious   
Ed Cryer wrote:

[...]
 
> I tried an experiment on my Fonts folder; chopped it from 295 files to
> 24; and rebooted, twice for good measure. No detectable difference to
> boot speed. So I've put them all back.

I don't think this has been an issue since 9.x days. I've certainly had XP
installations with over 1,000 fonts installed without any obvious
performance hit.

Chris

-- 
Remove prejudice to reply.
date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:49:36 GMT   author:   Chris Whelan

Re: Speeding up slow XP PCs - suggested remedies when you've tried the obvious   
Ed Cryer wrote:


> I tried an experiment on my Fonts folder; chopped it from 295 files to 
> 24; and rebooted, twice for good measure. No detectable difference to 
> boot speed. So I've put them all back.

Now that's an interesting bit of news. My info on that must be out of 
date now  :-(

I'll load myself with all the fonts that I expect to use.

THanks

Dave
date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:02:45 +0000   author:   Dave

Re: Speeding up slow XP PCs - suggested remedies when you've tried the obvious   
"Dave"  wrote in message 
news:HLWdnQg7nLqrszLanZ2dnUVZ8tXinZ2d@bt.com...
> Ed Cryer wrote:
>
>
>> I tried an experiment on my Fonts folder; chopped it from 295 files 
>> to 24; and rebooted, twice for good measure. No detectable difference 
>> to boot speed. So I've put them all back.
>
> Now that's an interesting bit of news. My info on that must be out of 
> date now  :-(
>
> I'll load myself with all the fonts that I expect to use.
>
> THanks
>
> Dave

I can't find any reference to "loading fonts" in my boot log. I suspect 
they simply get loaded as called for by individual apps.

Ed
date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:13:48 -0000   author:   Ed Cryer

Re: Speeding up slow XP PCs - suggested remedies when you've tried the obvious   
Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Sun, 10 Feb
2008 17:13:48 -0000, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do uk.comp.misc,
yawatina tan reek esk "Ed Cryer"  fornis do marikano
es bono tan el:

>
>"Dave"  wrote in message 
>news:HLWdnQg7nLqrszLanZ2dnUVZ8tXinZ2d@bt.com...
>> Ed Cryer wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I tried an experiment on my Fonts folder; chopped it from 295 files 
>>> to 24; and rebooted, twice for good measure. No detectable difference 
>>> to boot speed. So I've put them all back.
>>
>> Now that's an interesting bit of news. My info on that must be out of 
>> date now  :-(
>>
>> I'll load myself with all the fonts that I expect to use.
>>
>> THanks
>>
>> Dave
>
>I can't find any reference to "loading fonts" in my boot log. I suspect 
>they simply get loaded as called for by individual apps.

Removing fonts from the fonts folder used to speed up Mac OS computers.  I
don't recall it ever working on Windows.

deKay
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date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:04:14 +0000   author:   deKay lid

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