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date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:31:38 -0000,    group: uk.comp.misc        back       
Putting genuine copy of XP home on another pc   
I have a dead pc (hd and mb) with a genuine copy of XP Home on it and I know 
the key but I don't have the Windows CD, just some restore discs. Is it 
possible to transfer this copy of XP onto another pc?

Could I get someone to do me a copy of an XP Home disc (yes I know you're 
not supposed to but if they don't supply XP on a cd what else is there to 
do?) and then use the genuine key or is each XP disc tied to its own key?

Si
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:31:38 -0000   author:   Mungo \Two Sheds\ Toadfoot

Re: Putting genuine copy of XP home on another pc   
"Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot"  wrote in message 
news:TJGdnfdw5MinXBXanZ2dnUVZ8sSrnZ2d@pipex.net...
>I have a dead pc (hd and mb) with a genuine copy of XP Home on it and I 
>know the key but I don't have the Windows CD, just some restore discs. Is 
>it possible to transfer this copy of XP onto another pc?
>
> Could I get someone to do me a copy of an XP Home disc (yes I know you're 
> not supposed to but if they don't supply XP on a cd what else is there to 
> do?) and then use the genuine key or is each XP disc tied to its own key?

The short answer is "it depends" :-(

The copy on the original PC will be activated (registered with Microsoft) 
together with a code that identifies the hardware. If you put the copy on a 
second PC (or reinstall on the first PC), then as long as the hardware is 
the same you may be allowed to activate. Especially if sufficient time (90 
days?) has elapsed since the last time the first PC activated.

But you may have a copy of Windows which is tied to a specific BIOS (in 
which case it won;t work on a different brand of PC) or else which has a 
legal restriction (in which case it will work but you'll technically be 
breaking MS's licence agreement, stupid though that is).
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:56:26 -0000   author:   Mortimer

Re: Putting genuine copy of XP home on another pc   
Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote:
> I have a dead pc (hd and mb) with a genuine copy of XP Home on it and I know 
> the key but I don't have the Windows CD, just some restore discs. Is it 
> possible to transfer this copy of XP onto another pc?
> 
> Could I get someone to do me a copy of an XP Home disc (yes I know you're 
> not supposed to but if they don't supply XP on a cd what else is there to 
> do?) and then use the genuine key or is each XP disc tied to its own key?
> 
> Si 
> 
> 

There are different types of installation CD, and keys may not match. 
In any case, if XP was pre-installed it'll be an "OEM" version, and that 
dies with the machine.  A transfereable copy would be significantly more 
expensive.  You might find this useful - look for the OEM paragraphs.

http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm

Phil, London
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:01:35 +0000   author:   Philip Herlihy

Re: Putting genuine copy of XP home on another pc   
"Mortimer"  wrote in message 
news:13ohhof93i5ct8f@corp.supernews.com...
| "Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot"  wrote in message
| news:TJGdnfdw5MinXBXanZ2dnUVZ8sSrnZ2d@pipex.net...
| >I have a dead pc (hd and mb) with a genuine copy of XP Home on it and I
| >know the key but I don't have the Windows CD, just some restore discs. Is
| >it possible to transfer this copy of XP onto another pc?
| >
| > Could I get someone to do me a copy of an XP Home disc (yes I know 
you're
| > not supposed to but if they don't supply XP on a cd what else is there 
to
| > do?) and then use the genuine key or is each XP disc tied to its own 
key?
|
| The short answer is "it depends" :-(
|
| The copy on the original PC will be activated (registered with Microsoft)
| together with a code that identifies the hardware. If you put the copy on 
a
| second PC (or reinstall on the first PC), then as long as the hardware is
| the same you may be allowed to activate. Especially if sufficient time (90
| days?) has elapsed since the last time the first PC activated.
|
| But you may have a copy of Windows which is tied to a specific BIOS (in
| which case it won;t work on a different brand of PC) or else which has a
| legal restriction (in which case it will work but you'll technically be
| breaking MS's licence agreement, stupid though that is).

        I am totally pissed off with Microsoft and their restrictive 
practices.
        To my way of thinking, if I coughed up for an operating system, then 
so long as it is for
        my own use and not for business purposes, I will bloody well install 
it on as many PCs as I
        want and to hell with them.
        I am now in the process of changing to Linux and so far as I am 
concerned Microsoft is history.

                   Have a good read here:



                               http://distrowatch.com/

           Ubuntu is very good, Mandriva is excellent and can rival 
Vista.....without all the restrictions.
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:50:23 GMT   author:   Mike the Brewer

Re: Putting genuine copy of XP home on another pc   
Philip Herlihy wrote:
>
> There are different types of installation CD, and keys may not match.
> In any case, if XP was pre-installed it'll be an "OEM" version, and
> that dies with the machine.  A transfereable copy would be
> significantly more expensive.  You might find this useful - look for
> the OEM paragraphs.
> http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm
>

Thanks all. I'm seriously considering Ubuntu as I've got a CD somewhere. MS 
can go swivel.

Si
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:25:37 -0000   author:   Mungo \Two Sheds\ Toadfoot

Re: Putting genuine copy of XP home on another pc   
Mike the Brewer wrote:

> "Mortimer"  wrote in message 
> news:13ohhof93i5ct8f@corp.supernews.com...
> | "Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot"  wrote in message
> | news:TJGdnfdw5MinXBXanZ2dnUVZ8sSrnZ2d@pipex.net...
> | >I have a dead pc (hd and mb) with a genuine copy of XP Home on it and I
> | >know the key but I don't have the Windows CD, just some restore discs. Is
> | >it possible to transfer this copy of XP onto another pc?
> | >
> | > Could I get someone to do me a copy of an XP Home disc (yes I know 
> you're
> | > not supposed to but if they don't supply XP on a cd what else is there 
> to
> | > do?) and then use the genuine key or is each XP disc tied to its own 
> key?
> |
> | The short answer is "it depends" :-(
> |
> | The copy on the original PC will be activated (registered with Microsoft)
> | together with a code that identifies the hardware. If you put the copy on 
> a
> | second PC (or reinstall on the first PC), then as long as the hardware is
> | the same you may be allowed to activate. Especially if sufficient time (90
> | days?) has elapsed since the last time the first PC activated.
> |
> | But you may have a copy of Windows which is tied to a specific BIOS (in
> | which case it won;t work on a different brand of PC) or else which has a
> | legal restriction (in which case it will work but you'll technically be
> | breaking MS's licence agreement, stupid though that is).
> 
>         I am totally pissed off with Microsoft and their restrictive 
> practices.
>         To my way of thinking, if I coughed up for an operating system, then 
> so long as it is for
>         my own use and not for business purposes,

I do not have any business interests, but I totally agree with you.

> I will bloody well install 
> it on as many PCs as I
>         want and to hell with them.

I have done this for more years than I can remember and mastergates is 
still the second richest man in the world.

>         I am now in the process of changing to Linux and so far as I am 
> concerned Microsoft is history.

It has a little (not too much) way to go before I switch.

Bill snakes, eat you heart out.

Dave
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 23:40:16 +0000   author:   Dave

Re: Putting genuine copy of XP home on another pc   
On Jan 12, 3:50 pm, "Mike the Brewer"  wrote:
> "Mortimer"  wrote in message
>
> news:13ohhof93i5ct8f@corp.supernews.com...
> | "Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot"  wrote in message
> |news:TJGdnfdw5MinXBXanZ2dnUVZ8sSrnZ2d@pipex.net...
> | >I have a dead pc (hd and mb) with a genuine copy of XP Home on it and I
> | >know the key but I don't have the Windows CD, just some restore discs. Is
> | >it possible to transfer this copy of XP onto another pc?
> | >
> | > Could I get someone to do me a copy of an XP Home disc (yes I know
> you're
> | > not supposed to but if they don't supply XP on a cd what else is there
> to
> | > do?) and then use the genuine key or is each XP disc tied to its own
> key?
> |
> | The short answer is "it depends" :-(

I believe the install keys are constructed from an algorithm rather
than just stored on the disc.

> | The copy on the original PC will be activated (registered with Microsoft)
> | together with a code that identifies the hardware. If you put the copy on a
> | second PC (or reinstall on the first PC), then as long as the hardware is
> | the same you may be allowed to activate. Especially if sufficient time (90
> | days?) has elapsed since the last time the first PC activated.
> |
> | But you may have a copy of Windows which is tied to a specific BIOS (in
> | which case it won;t work on a different brand of PC) or else which has a
> | legal restriction (in which case it will work but you'll technically be
> | breaking MS's licence agreement, stupid though that is).
>
> I am totally pissed off with Microsoft and their restrictive practices.
> To my way of thinking, if I coughed up for an operating system, then
> so long as it is for my own use and not for business purposes, I will bloody well
> install it on as many PCs as I want and to hell with them.
>
> I am now in the process of changing to Linux and so far as I am concerned
> Microsoft is history.
>
> Have a good read here:
> http://distrowatch.com/
>
> Ubuntu is very good, Mandriva is excellent and can rival Vista.....
> without all the restrictions.

I quite like XP but it has to have all the modern stuff loaded as
third party-ware and looking after it has spawned an host of security
bods that will take a massive dive if Linux does what it says on the
tin.

I just put Mandrake 10 on an old box and was very pleased with the
look. One small fault is that for a 4 year old system OS it has too
much choice. How do I know what to use? Gnome or KDE? Just one would
have been plenty.

The KDE looks like a keeper though. I wonder if it will run my Win 98
scanner. I had to ditch that on XP when I got it.
date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:21:05 -0800 (PST)   author:   Weatherlawyer

Re: Putting genuine copy of XP home on another pc   
"Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot"  wrote in message 
news:TJGdnfdw5MinXBXanZ2dnUVZ8sSrnZ2d@pipex.net...
>I have a dead pc (hd and mb) with a genuine copy of XP Home on it and I 
>know the key but I don't have the Windows CD, just some restore discs. Is 
>it possible to transfer this copy of XP onto another pc?
>
> Could I get someone to do me a copy of an XP Home disc (yes I know you're 
> not supposed to but if they don't supply XP on a cd what else is there to 
> do?) and then use the genuine key or is each XP disc tied to its own key?
>

The clue in your post is that you have a 'restore disc' suggesting that your 
XP is an OEM version.  You cannot transfer this to another PC.  In any case 
it is most likely locked to the specific BIOS of the original PC.  The disk 
will probably lack specific drivers that you need for the target PC, 
particularly chipset drivers for the Northbridge and Southbridge chips.
date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:58:37 -0000   author:   M.I.5?

Re: Putting genuine copy of XP home on another pc   
shall not
hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain."

Is. 56:3: "Thus saith the Lord, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my
salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.

"Blessed is the man that doeth this, that keepeth the Sabbath, and keepeth
his hand from doing any evil.

"Neither let the strangers that have joined themselves to me, say, God will
separate me from His people. For thus saith the Lord: Whoever will keep my
Sabbath, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
even unto them will I give in mine house a place and a name better than that
of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall
not be cut off."

Is. 59:9: "Therefore for our iniquities is justice far from us: we wait for
light, but behold obscurity; for brightness, but we walk in darkness. We
grope for the wall like the blind; we stumble at noonday as in the night: we
are in desolate places as dead men.

"We roar all like bears, and mourn sore like doves; we look for judgment,
but there is none; for salvation, but it is far from us."

Is. 66:18: "But I know their works and their thoughts; it shall come that I
will gather all nations and tongues, and they shall see my glory.

"And I will set a sign among them, and I will send those that escape of them
unto the nations, to Africa, to Lydia, to Italy, to Greece, and to the
people that have not heard my fame, neither have seen my glory. And they
shall bring your brethren.

Jer. 7. Reprobation of the Temple: "Go ye unto Shiloth, where I set my name
at the first, and see what I did to it for the wickedness of my people. And
now, because ye have done all these works, saith the Lord, I will do unto
this house, wherein my name is called upon, wherein ye trust, and unto the
place which I gave to your priests, as I have done to Shiloth." (For I have
rejected it, and made myself a temple elsewhere.)

"And I will cast you out of m
date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:37:56 GMT   author:   M.I.5?

Re: Putting genuine copy of XP home on another pc   
"M.I.5¾"  wrote in message 
news:4452e54b_3@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...

wrote Nothing of the sort.

[snipped: miscredited drivel]
date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:21:05 -0000   author:   M.I.5?

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