On 12 Jan, 11:22, PeeGee  wrote:
> Marge wrote:
> > On 11 Jan, 16:51, PeeGee  wrote:
> >> Marge wrote:
> >>> On 10 Jan, 15:39, "Will"  wrote:
> >>> Socket on router is fine, if you have any physical indication on your
> >>> router, ie light for each socket. switch on a PC which is connected to
> >>> a particular socket & see it light up, then shut down windows & see if
> >>> the light stays on. If it does, I'm guessing it will, then switch off
> >>> the mains socket at the said PC which is already shut down & watch the
> >>> light go off.
> >>> If you wait a few seconds & switch the mains plug back on the light
> >>> will not light up, meaning the socket is free. When you power your pc
> >>> & start windows it will regain that socket, light on.
> >> In your case, with your "sharer", that may be true. On my system, as
> >> soon as the 5vSBY appears, the router light for that socket comes on -
> >> which is what I would expect.
>
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> >> PeeGee
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> > PeeGee? you are usually very helpful but from this post I'm wondering
> > if you read the last post at all.
>
> I believe I did :-) However, I assumed you were fully aware of the
> difference between 5v and 5vSBY supplies (I do tend to assume, often
> wrongly, that people know things I consider *basic* information :-( ).
>
>
>
> > Yes! on my system also, when the 5v from the PC appears at the router
> > the light for that socket comes on too!! we are the same !!
>
> That's not what I said :-(  When you turn the supply on at the mains
> plug, the socket light stays off (5vSBY active, 5v not active), whereas
> the light comes on with my system. As I said in a previous post, I have
> a second system where the socket light *only* lights when the PC is
> powered up.
>
> The 5vSBY is available whenever the power is reaching the PSU and allows
> WOL, wake on keyboard, wake on USB, wake on timer etc. The 5v line only
> becomes active when the PC is actually powered up.
>
>
>
> > its when you shut down windows & the PC effectively is off that the
> > socket is still lit up (active) and therefor not useable by any other
> > hardware on that socket. Remember I have a splitter so 2 items of
> > hardware can share the same socket though not at the same time. but
> > the pc does not release the socket when shut down only when all power
> > is removed & I believe this is the same for all modern pc's but you
> > wouldn't be aware or affected by it unless you had a splitter.
>
> > Its possible I guess that if you had 2 pc's on the splitter that it
> > may work ok, the 5v form either overriding the other when needed but
> > in the case of the 360 this is not so. I'll have to try that out to
> > see.
>
> --
> PeeGee
>
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OK sorry for upsetting you,I know what as done that but although may
not be true in your case it unfortunately is in many.

Right, my small useless uneducated brain says that if in your case,
YOU have 2 systems with a standby voltage which are effecting socket
activity differently it could be because 1 has WOL enabled & 1
doesn't, (this should be the case) maybe not maybe its down to how
different manufacturers make their products but shouldn't be because
then the hardware is doing something you didn't ask it to do!!

Now back to the original posting, could you tell me why, when I have
WOL disabled do my PC's not release the sockets when shut down, that
is what I am requesting them to do.

The mysterious 5vSBY is simply a 5v bypass of the mains switch solely
for the purpose of WOL, if I set WOL to disabled why is the 5v 5vSBY
not dropped from the socket on shut down? This is all my problem is &
it isn't faulty hardware, I have 4 PC's in the home all with different
onboard LAN or NIC cards which all operate exactly the same.

No more arguing just answer the question, that's all I came here for.
I got disgruntled with the other poster because he told me my hardware
was probably faulty because he didn't read that I said splitter rather
than switch, I realised after my reply, to his error.

I know its better not to reply at all than to start an argument but
I'm human too sometimes. :o(