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date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:17:48 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.comp.homebuilt        back       
remote management questions   
hi

I am looking for a remote management solution, for 1-4 comps, but if
price is steep, maybe just one.  Remote management as in as far as
seeing the BIOS. So, not VNC.

remote management cards (i.e. with RJ45 socket to go to ethernet port)
(I heard that some of these are a foot long, so I would need to know
what case is big enough!)

structural cabling -   How much would it cost to get a pair of
sockets.  One socket in the house, one in the garage ?


Below are some other options I am thinking of as possibilities, but
really in this post i'm focussing on the above.

KVM over mains   (doesn't exist, does it?)
KVM over IP - KVM switch with RJ45 sockets(note- doesn't use comp's
ethernet ports). (It's a bit expensive)
CAT5 KVM Extender. (I have a rugged cat5 cable, but would need a DIY
job sanding under the doors to get it through the house. Would rather
not).
date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:17:48 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: remote management questions   
On 20 Aug, 20:17, notambidextr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> hi
>
> I am looking for a remote management solution, for 1-4 comps, but if
> price is steep, maybe just one.  Remote management as in as far as
> seeing the BIOS. So, not VNC.
>
> remote management cards (i.e. with RJ45 socket to go to ethernet port)
> (I heard that some of these are a foot long, so I would need to know
> what case is big enough!)
>
> structural cabling -   How much would it cost to get a pair of
> sockets.  One socket in the house, one in the garage ?
>
> Below are some other options I am thinking of as possibilities, but
> really in this post i'm focussing on the above.
>
> KVM over mains   (doesn't exist, does it?)
> KVM over IP - KVM switch with RJ45 sockets(note- doesn't use comp's
> ethernet ports). (It's a bit expensive)
> CAT5 KVM Extender. (I have a rugged cat5 cable, but would need a DIY
> job sanding under the doors to get it through the house. Would rather
> not).

How about an IP KVM, and run that IP over power line networking?
date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:30:27 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Ric

Re: remote management questions   
wrote in message 
news:d2a8f518-51ce-43ed-ba6d-21dbf7f09e16@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> hi
>
> I am looking for a remote management solution, for 1-4 comps, but if
> price is steep, maybe just one.  Remote management as in as far as
> seeing the BIOS. So, not VNC.
>
> remote management cards (i.e. with RJ45 socket to go to ethernet port)
> (I heard that some of these are a foot long, so I would need to know
> what case is big enough!)
>
> structural cabling -   How much would it cost to get a pair of
> sockets.  One socket in the house, one in the garage ?
>
>
> Below are some other options I am thinking of as possibilities, but
> really in this post i'm focussing on the above.
>
> KVM over mains   (doesn't exist, does it?)
> KVM over IP - KVM switch with RJ45 sockets(note- doesn't use comp's
> ethernet ports). (It's a bit expensive)
> CAT5 KVM Extender. (I have a rugged cat5 cable, but would need a DIY
> job sanding under the doors to get it through the house. Would rather
> not).


I looked into these things a couple of years ago, when I was trying to make 
my server truly headless, without even a graphics card.  Windows Server 2003 
supports this, and has some sort of telnet-like access when using this mode.

You can find Dell's DRAC cards for peanuts on eBay, which is what me start 
my quest, but I ended it when I realised that they only work with specific 
Dell server motherboards.

eg. 
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Dell-PowerEdge-Remote-Access-Card-DRAC-III-PCI-X_W0QQitemZ330263251562QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item330263251562&_trkparms=72%3A1121%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

I think HP has similar cards, IIRC.

ss.
date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:24:01 +0100   author:   Synapse Syndrome

Re: remote management questions   
"Synapse Syndrome"  wrote in message 
news:0bmdnSAbXKLPzTDVnZ2dnUVZ8vudnZ2d@bt.com...
>> hi
>>
>> I am looking for a remote management solution, for 1-4 comps, but if
>> price is steep, maybe just one.  Remote management as in as far as
>> seeing the BIOS. So, not VNC.
>>
>> remote management cards (i.e. with RJ45 socket to go to ethernet port)
>> (I heard that some of these are a foot long, so I would need to know
>> what case is big enough!)
>>
>> structural cabling -   How much would it cost to get a pair of
>> sockets.  One socket in the house, one in the garage ?
>>
>>
>> Below are some other options I am thinking of as possibilities, but
>> really in this post i'm focussing on the above.
>>
>> KVM over mains   (doesn't exist, does it?)
>> KVM over IP - KVM switch with RJ45 sockets(note- doesn't use comp's
>> ethernet ports). (It's a bit expensive)
>> CAT5 KVM Extender. (I have a rugged cat5 cable, but would need a DIY
>> job sanding under the doors to get it through the house. Would rather
>> not).
>
>
> I looked into these things a couple of years ago, when I was trying to 
> make my server truly headless, without even a graphics card.  Windows 
> Server 2003 supports this, and has some sort of telnet-like access when 
> using this mode.
>
> You can find Dell's DRAC cards for peanuts on eBay, which is what me start 
> my quest, but I ended it when I realised that they only work with specific 
> Dell server motherboards.
>
> eg. 
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Dell-PowerEdge-Remote-Access-Card-DRAC-III-PCI-X_W0QQitemZ330263251562QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item330263251562&_trkparms=72%3A1121%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
>
> I think HP has similar cards, IIRC.

Remembering a bit more about what I learned then, Dell's DRAC cards have 
nothing to do with Windows Server 2003's headless server function, but 
allows it in older versions and other OSs, that do not have this native 
support.  Also, I do not think that an ethernet KVM is going to work when 
the machine is crashed.  I do not really know anything about how those work, 
and I do not remember how I came to that conclusion.  I searched my previous 
posts, but the only one that is directly applicable that I could find was 
the reply I got for this one:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.comp.hardware/browse_frm/thread/8fa3aa5cb3f6b026/b905476ca9591fe5?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=DRAC#b905476ca9591fe5

ss.
date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:29:43 +0100   author:   Synapse Syndrome

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