Seems their server is buckling under the pressure of people trying to 
pretend that they work for a recognised stores in which case you can 
apparently get Windows 7 ultimate (plus a goody bag) for £11.40

http://expertzone.microsoft.com

Seems like M$ has really got the lemmings jumping over the cliff this time. 
(With this and other offers)


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In article , jasee says...
> 
> Seems their server is buckling under the pressure of people trying to 
> pretend that they work for a recognised stores in which case you can 
> apparently get Windows 7 ultimate (plus a goody bag) for £11.40
> 
> http://expertzone.microsoft.com
> 
> Seems like M$ has really got the lemmings jumping over the cliff this time. 
> (With this and other offers)

So how do you get Windows7 then?

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Conor wrote:
> In article , jasee says...
>>
>> Seems their server is buckling under the pressure of people trying to
>> pretend that they work for a recognised stores in which case you can
>> apparently get Windows 7 ultimate (plus a goody bag) for £11.40
>>
>> http://expertzone.microsoft.com
>>
>> Seems like M$ has really got the lemmings jumping over the cliff
>> this time. (With this and other offers)
>
> So how do you get Windows7 then?


http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/519297/windows-7-ultimate-delegates-bag-11




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In article , 
Conor says...
> 
> In article , jasee says...
> > 
> > Seems their server is buckling under the pressure of people trying to 
> > pretend that they work for a recognised stores in which case you can 
> > apparently get Windows 7 ultimate (plus a goody bag) for £11.40
> > 
> > http://expertzone.microsoft.com
> > 
> > Seems like M$ has really got the lemmings jumping over the cliff this time. 
> > (With this and other offers)
> 
> So how do you get Windows7 then?

Don't worry, found out. This takes quite a long time.

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In article , jasee says...
> 
> Conor wrote:
> > In article , jasee says...
> >>
> >> Seems their server is buckling under the pressure of people trying to
> >> pretend that they work for a recognised stores in which case you can
> >> apparently get Windows 7 ultimate (plus a goody bag) for £11.40
> >>
> >> http://expertzone.microsoft.com
> >>
> >> Seems like M$ has really got the lemmings jumping over the cliff
> >> this time. (With this and other offers)
> >
> > So how do you get Windows7 then?
> 
> 
> http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/519297/windows-7-ultimate-delegates-bag-11

Don't bother wasting your time. Server is overloaded, loses your answers 
and falls over at checkout and loses all your points so you need to 
reregister and do it all over again. At over an hour to do the whole 
thing every attempt, it ain't worth the bother.



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jasee wrote:
> Seems their server is buckling under the pressure of people trying to 
> pretend that they work for a recognised stores in which case you can 
> apparently get Windows 7 ultimate (plus a goody bag) for £11.40
> 
> http://expertzone.microsoft.com
> 
> Seems like M$ has really got the lemmings jumping over the cliff this time. 
> (With this and other offers)
> 

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/519297/windows-7-ultimate-delegates-bag-11

Thinking of writing a letter of complaint accusing Microsoft of 
discriminatory practice.

If ye don't have kids or a qualifying job, you pay for everyone else.

Bit like paying taxes.

:-(

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On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:38:44 +0000, Adrian C <email@here.invalid>
wrote:

>jasee wrote:
>> Seems their server is buckling under the pressure of people trying to 
>> pretend that they work for a recognised stores in which case you can 
>> apparently get Windows 7 ultimate (plus a goody bag) for £11.40
>> 
>> http://expertzone.microsoft.com
>> 
>> Seems like M$ has really got the lemmings jumping over the cliff this time. 
>> (With this and other offers)
>> 
>
>http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/519297/windows-7-ultimate-delegates-bag-11
>
>Thinking of writing a letter of complaint accusing Microsoft of 
>discriminatory practice.
>
>If ye don't have kids or a qualifying job, you pay for everyone else.
>
>Bit like paying taxes.
>
>:-(

For people working for Currys, PC World, Asda, Tesco, Sainsburys, M &
S, Orange UK, Carphone Warehouse, Woolworths, Toys R Us,

Woolworths is this a wind up?

On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:38:44 +0000
Adrian C <email@here.invalid> wrote:

> Thinking of writing a letter of complaint accusing Microsoft of 
> discriminatory practice.
> 
> If ye don't have kids or a qualifying job, you pay for everyone else.
> 
> Bit like paying taxes.
> 

But the Microsoft tax isn't compulsory - there are havens like Ubuntu
and Fedora where PC users can seek refuge.

In article <20091104154922.179f1cec@bluemoon>, Rob Morley says...
> 
> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:38:44 +0000
> Adrian C <email@here.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > Thinking of writing a letter of complaint accusing Microsoft of 
> > discriminatory practice.
> > 
> > If ye don't have kids or a qualifying job, you pay for everyone else.
> > 
> > Bit like paying taxes.
> > 
> 
> But the Microsoft tax isn't compulsory - there are havens like Ubuntu
> and Fedora where PC users can seek refuge.

You may want to ask anyone who owns a nVidia or ATI card how Ubuntu 9.10 
is going.

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On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:08:39 -0000
Conor  wrote:

> You may want to ask anyone who owns a nVidia or ATI card how Ubuntu
> 9.10 is going.
> 
Works fine with my AGP Radeon, and SO's laptop with Radeon X1200  :-)

Rob Morley wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:08:39 -0000
> Conor  wrote:
> 
>> You may want to ask anyone who owns a nVidia or ATI card how Ubuntu
>> 9.10 is going.
>>
> Works fine with my AGP Radeon, and SO's laptop with Radeon X1200  :-)
> 
Sure, most Linuxes work with old cards...the problems arise with anything 
vaguely new.

"Conor"  wrote in message 
news:MPG.255bc57491e839649898ec@news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <20091104154922.179f1cec@bluemoon>, Rob Morley says...
>>
>> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:38:44 +0000
>> Adrian C <email@here.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> > Thinking of writing a letter of complaint accusing Microsoft of
>> > discriminatory practice.
>> >
>> > If ye don't have kids or a qualifying job, you pay for everyone else.
>> >
>> > Bit like paying taxes.
>> >
>>
>> But the Microsoft tax isn't compulsory - there are havens like Ubuntu
>> and Fedora where PC users can seek refuge.
>
> You may want to ask anyone who owns a nVidia or ATI card how Ubuntu 9.10
> is going.

Works fine here using a GTX260 and an 8800GT thanks (so does Win7 for that 
matter).

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In article <7YiIm.1737$Ym4.308@text.news.virginmedia.com>, Richard 
Colton says...
> 
> "Conor"  wrote in message 
> news:MPG.255bc57491e839649898ec@news.eternal-september.org...
> > In article <20091104154922.179f1cec@bluemoon>, Rob Morley says...
> >>
> >> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:38:44 +0000
> >> Adrian C <email@here.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Thinking of writing a letter of complaint accusing Microsoft of
> >> > discriminatory practice.
> >> >
> >> > If ye don't have kids or a qualifying job, you pay for everyone else.
> >> >
> >> > Bit like paying taxes.
> >> >
> >>
> >> But the Microsoft tax isn't compulsory - there are havens like Ubuntu
> >> and Fedora where PC users can seek refuge.
> >
> > You may want to ask anyone who owns a nVidia or ATI card how Ubuntu 9.10
> > is going.
> 
> Works fine here using a GTX260 and an 8800GT thanks (so does Win7 for that 
> matter).

Ubuntuforum.org and plenty of IT news websites show that there's loads 
of people ending up with blank screens, data loss etc etc.

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"Adrian C" <email@here.invalid> wrote in message 
news:7ldef8F3cekvaU2@mid.individual.net...
> jasee wrote:
>> Seems their server is buckling under the pressure of people trying to 
>> pretend that they work for a recognised stores in which case you can 
>> apparently get Windows 7 ultimate (plus a goody bag) for £11.40
>>
>> http://expertzone.microsoft.com
>>
>> Seems like M$ has really got the lemmings jumping over the cliff this 
>> time. (With this and other offers)
>>
>
> http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/519297/windows-7-ultimate-delegates-bag-11
>
> Thinking of writing a letter of complaint accusing Microsoft of 
> discriminatory practice.
>
> If ye don't have kids or a qualifying job, you pay for everyone else.
>
> Bit like paying taxes.
>
> :-(
>
It's a bit like buying glasses. Sight testing is normally subsidised by the 
profit in spectacle sales. Which is great if you don't need specs.

"Conor"  wrote in message 
news:MPG.255bd6f228fd52509898ee@news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <7YiIm.1737$Ym4.308@text.news.virginmedia.com>, Richard
> Colton says...
>>
>> "Conor"  wrote in message
>> news:MPG.255bc57491e839649898ec@news.eternal-september.org...
>> > In article <20091104154922.179f1cec@bluemoon>, Rob Morley says...
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:38:44 +0000
>> >> Adrian C <email@here.invalid> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Thinking of writing a letter of complaint accusing Microsoft of
>> >> > discriminatory practice.
>> >> >
>> >> > If ye don't have kids or a qualifying job, you pay for everyone 
>> >> > else.
>> >> >
>> >> > Bit like paying taxes.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> But the Microsoft tax isn't compulsory - there are havens like Ubuntu
>> >> and Fedora where PC users can seek refuge.
>> >
>> > You may want to ask anyone who owns a nVidia or ATI card how Ubuntu 
>> > 9.10
>> > is going.
>>
>> Works fine here using a GTX260 and an 8800GT thanks (so does Win7 for 
>> that
>> matter).
>
> Ubuntuforum.org and plenty of IT news websites show that there's loads
> of people ending up with blank screens, data loss etc etc.

There may well be, but I can only comment on my own experiences.

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Thanks for that - just paid for mine!

> plenty of IT news websites show that there's loads 
> of people ending up with blank screens, data loss etc etc.

Sounds like an update to Vista to me !

Colin Wilson wrote:
>> plenty of IT news websites show that there's loads 
>> of people ending up with blank screens, data loss etc etc.
> 
> Sounds like an update to Vista to me !

No it doesn't. Vista is the very acme of OS's, striding like a colossus amongst 
the mere dross that is the OS offering of others.

Conor wrote:
> 
> Ubuntuforum.org and plenty of IT news websites show that there's loads 
> of people ending up with blank screens, data loss etc etc.
> 

Blank screens I can understand, but /data loss/!? Got any links?

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bcoombes wrote:
> Rob Morley wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:08:39 -0000
>> Conor  wrote:
>>
>>> You may want to ask anyone who owns a nVidia or ATI card how Ubuntu
>>> 9.10 is going.
>>>
>> Works fine with my AGP Radeon, and SO's laptop with Radeon X1200  :-)
>>
> Sure, most Linuxes work with old cards...the problems arise with 
> anything vaguely new.

No probs with an 8800GTS here, I know it's not cutting edge but it's 
hardly ancient.  There's quite enough other irritating stuff besides 
that so far, however.

-- 
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In article , [ste parker] says...
> 
> Conor wrote:
> > 
> > Ubuntuforum.org and plenty of IT news websites show that there's loads 
> > of people ending up with blank screens, data loss etc etc.
> > 
> 
> Blank screens I can understand, but /data loss/!? Got any links?

http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/453579

Possible corruption of large files with ext4 filesystem

There have been some reports of data corruption with fresh (not 
upgraded) ext4 file systems using the Ubuntu 9.10 kernel when writing to 
large files (over 512MB). The issue is under investigation, and if 
confirmed will be resolved in a post-release update.

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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:48:11 -0000
Conor  wrote:

> In article , [ste parker] says...
> > 
> > Conor wrote:
> > > 
> > > Ubuntuforum.org and plenty of IT news websites show that there's loads 
> > > of people ending up with blank screens, data loss etc etc.
> > > 
> > 
> > Blank screens I can understand, but /data loss/!? Got any links?
> 
> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/453579
> 
> Possible corruption of large files with ext4 filesystem
> 
> There have been some reports of data corruption with fresh (not 
> upgraded) ext4 file systems using the Ubuntu 9.10 kernel when writing to 
> large files (over 512MB). The issue is under investigation, and if 
> confirmed will be resolved in a post-release update.

I've had a data DVD image corrupted while using ext4 filesystems with
Debian come to think of it. The strange thing is I had copied it to my
Windows (NTFS) partition where it had worked, but I wiped it out when
clean installing 7 over the RC, then when I copied it to Windows from
Linux again it had stopped working (I tried copying again and it failed
in the same place). I don't remember doing anything to the copy in my
ext4 partition in the meantime, but I know I definitely copied it over
my LAN via NFS in the first place, which I have known to corrupt things
in the past (pre ext4).

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In article , Tony Houghton says...

> I've had a data DVD image corrupted while using ext4 filesystems with
> Debian come to think of it. The strange thing is I had copied it to my
> Windows (NTFS) partition where it had worked, but I wiped it out when
> clean installing 7 over the RC, then when I copied it to Windows from
> Linux again it had stopped working (I tried copying again and it failed
> in the same place). I don't remember doing anything to the copy in my
> ext4 partition in the meantime, but I know I definitely copied it over
> my LAN via NFS in the first place, which I have known to corrupt things
> in the past (pre ext4).

In the launchpad link, at the top of the bug description is the 
following:

12:36 < Keybuk> this whole ext4 thing is worrying me
12:36 < Keybuk> I just downloaded an iso image, md5sum didn't match
12:36 < Keybuk> downloaded it into an ext3 partition, matched just fine
12:59 < Keybuk> and I know mvo has seen bugs with corrupted .debs in 
/var/cache/apt/archives
12:59 < Keybuk> which seems to imply its any file large enough to use 
lots of extents

So that would tie into your experience as well.

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Conor wrote:
> In article , [ste parker] says...
>> Conor wrote:
>>> Ubuntuforum.org and plenty of IT news websites show that there's loads 
>>> of people ending up with blank screens, data loss etc etc.
>>>
>> Blank screens I can understand, but /data loss/!? Got any links?
> 
> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/453579
> 
> Possible corruption of large files with ext4 filesystem
> 
> There have been some reports of data corruption with fresh (not 
> upgraded) ext4 file systems using the Ubuntu 9.10 kernel when writing to 
> large files (over 512MB). The issue is under investigation, and if 
> confirmed will be resolved in a post-release update.
> 

Oh right, that. I was thinking that you were referring to the graphical 
issues causing data loss somehow. I'm still using ext3 if only because 
there's nothing to access ext4 partitions from Windows anyway.

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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:00:46 +0000
"[ste parker]"  wrote:

> I'm still using ext3 if
> only because there's nothing to access ext4 partitions from Windows
> anyway.
> 
In Windows run a minimal ext4 Linux in Virtualbox, mount the partition
you want to access and share it with Samba.
:-)

On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 01:04:12 +0000
Tony Houghton  wrote:

> I've had a data DVD image corrupted while using ext4 filesystems with
> Debian come to think of it.

I've remembered I did two major things, probably between using the image
successfully and finding it corrupted, but I can't remember whether I
did them both at once or separately, and in which order. One was to
shrink the partition it was on, move it and some other partitions to the
"right" and grow my Windows partition (Win 7 and WoW didn't leave much
space for anything else!), and the other was to convert them to ext4,
which involved copying lots of stuff to a spare HD and back again (I
suppose I should have tried to find a conversion tool), but I can't
remember whether that included this DVD image. Both operations were done
with gparted, either using Mint 7 (Ubuntu 9.04 with a facelift etc) on a
USB stick or Ubuntu 9.04 LiveCD. So the corruption would have been the
fault of Ubuntu or a derivative, not Debian after all.

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Rob Morley wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:00:46 +0000
> "[ste parker]"  wrote:
> 
>> I'm still using ext3 if
>> only because there's nothing to access ext4 partitions from Windows
>> anyway.
>>
> In Windows run a minimal ext4 Linux in Virtualbox, mount the partition
> you want to access and share it with Samba.
> :-)
> 

Now there's an idea! Think I'll probably stick with ext3 for now until 
any kinks have /definitely/ been ironed out, though.

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