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date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:12:53 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.adverts.computer        back       
Switch   
Has anyone got a really small one? I only need two RJ-45 ports, as the
one on the end has died, and I need one more space... I dont want an 8
or anything if I can help it, either a 2 port or a 4 port would be
idea. I'd even consider a 10 base if it will work! Those 2 only deal
with internet and email only!

WHY?

-Ben
date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:12:53 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Wagg

Re: Switch   
Wagg wrote:
> Has anyone got a really small one? I only need two RJ-45 ports, as the
> one on the end has died, and I need one more space... I dont want an 8
> or anything if I can help it, either a 2 port or a 4 port would be
> idea. I'd even consider a 10 base if it will work! Those 2 only deal
> with internet and email only!

Three.  You'd need a minimum of *three* ports, not two - unless you just 
want to connect two PCs to each other, in which case a crossover cable 
is cheaper.

Realistically you're looking at a four port, as nobody makes three port 
switches.

-- 
Gareth Halfacree
http://gareth.halfacree.co.uk
date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:21:27 +0100   author:   Gareth Halfacree

Re: Switch   
On Jul 31, 3:21 pm, Gareth Halfacree  wrote:
> Wagg wrote:
> > Has anyone got a really small one? I only need two RJ-45 ports, as the
> > one on the end has died, and I need one more space... I dont want an 8
> > or anything if I can help it, either a 2 port or a 4 port would be
> > idea. I'd even consider a 10 base if it will work! Those 2 only deal
> > with internet and email only!
>
> Three.  You'd need a minimum of *three* ports, not two - unless you just
> want to connect two PCs to each other, in which case a crossover cable
> is cheaper.
>
> Realistically you're looking at a four port, as nobody makes three port
> switches.
>
> --
> Gareth Halfacreehttp://gareth.halfacree.co.uk

I have a 16 port, the very last port doesn't work, and I need to
connect one computer. So I want to take port 15 out, plug it into a
switch, and one more into that switch. 4 port it is then, just not
going to use the other two ports, and wanted something small :)

Anyone got something laying around?

-Ben
date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:57:22 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Wagg

Re: Switch   
"Wagg"  wrote in message 
news:b80f94fd-8549-4298-b71e-61d08d006665@26g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 31, 3:21 pm, Gareth Halfacree  wrote:
> Wagg wrote:
> > Has anyone got a really small one? I only need two RJ-45 ports, as the
> > one on the end has died, and I need one more space... I dont want an 8
> > or anything if I can help it, either a 2 port or a 4 port would be
> > idea. I'd even consider a 10 base if it will work! Those 2 only deal
> > with internet and email only!
>
> Three. You'd need a minimum of *three* ports, not two - unless you just
> want to connect two PCs to each other, in which case a crossover cable
> is cheaper.
>
> Realistically you're looking at a four port, as nobody makes three port
> switches.
>
> --
> Gareth Halfacreehttp://gareth.halfacree.co.uk

I have a 16 port, the very last port doesn't work, and I need to
connect one computer. So I want to take port 15 out, plug it into a
switch, and one more into that switch. 4 port it is then, just not
going to use the other two ports, and wanted something small :)

Anyone got something laying around?

-Ben


Not being funny, but there is sometimes a switch on the last port, as it is 
used on older units to upload to another switch etc
Make sure its not pushed in, or out and then set incorrect?
Have you tried a crossover cable on it?
date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:09:06 GMT   author:   Neil

Re: Switch   
On Jul 31, 5:09 pm, "Neil"  wrote:
> "Wagg"  wrote in message
>
> news:b80f94fd-8549-4298-b71e-61d08d006665@26g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 31, 3:21 pm, Gareth Halfacree  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Wagg wrote:
> > > Has anyone got a really small one? I only need two RJ-45 ports, as the
> > > one on the end has died, and I need one more space... I dont want an 8
> > > or anything if I can help it, either a 2 port or a 4 port would be
> > > idea. I'd even consider a 10 base if it will work! Those 2 only deal
> > > with internet and email only!
>
> > Three. You'd need a minimum of *three* ports, not two - unless you just
> > want to connect two PCs to each other, in which case a crossover cable
> > is cheaper.
>
> > Realistically you're looking at a four port, as nobody makes three port
> > switches.
>
> > --
> > Gareth Halfacreehttp://gareth.halfacree.co.uk
>
> I have a 16 port, the very last port doesn't work, and I need to
> connect one computer. So I want to take port 15 out, plug it into a
> switch, and one more into that switch. 4 port it is then, just not
> going to use the other two ports, and wanted something small :)
>
> Anyone got something laying around?
>
> -Ben
>
> Not being funny, but there is sometimes a switch on the last port, as it is
> used on older units to upload to another switch etc
> Make sure its not pushed in, or out and then set incorrect?
> Have you tried a crossover cable on it?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yup, I thoughtit may be an uplink port or similar. The computer in it
was working but the network card still works, but nothing I put in the
16th port works at all. If I put the computer in any other port it
works fine, but the 16th port no longer lights up (used to, now its
dead), still wont light up the network card in the computer if it is
connected to it. Switch otherwise works fine, possibly a loose wire or
something, but I havent the knowledge to fix that, and can't afford to
be without it for long.

-Ben
date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:32:01 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Wagg

Re: Switch   
Wagg wrote:

> On Jul 31, 3:21 pm, Gareth Halfacree  wrote:
>> Wagg wrote:
>> > Has anyone got a really small one? I only need two RJ-45 ports, as the
>> > one on the end has died, and I need one more space... I dont want an 8
>> > or anything if I can help it, either a 2 port or a 4 port would be
>> > idea. I'd even consider a 10 base if it will work! Those 2 only deal
>> > with internet and email only!
>>
>> Three.  You'd need a minimum of *three* ports, not two - unless you just
>> want to connect two PCs to each other, in which case a crossover cable
>> is cheaper.
>>
>> Realistically you're looking at a four port, as nobody makes three port
>> switches.
>>
>> --
>> Gareth Halfacreehttp://gareth.halfacree.co.uk
> 
> I have a 16 port, the very last port doesn't work, and I need to
> connect one computer. So I want to take port 15 out, plug it into a
> switch, and one more into that switch. 4 port it is then, just not
> going to use the other two ports, and wanted something small :)

Then you do need 3 ports - 1 to connect to port 15 of the old switch, one
for the device that was connected to port 15 and one for the device that
was in port 16.

So you either need a 4 port switch and only use 3 ports or a 2 port one with
an extra uplink port.

Look for a button labelled uplink/normal on the old switch and try selecting
other setting. Has your switch got a 17th socket as an uplink port - if it
has one that was previously unused but has recently had a connection made
to it then doing this may have disabled port 16 (some hubs have an extra
socket for uplink but only allow either this socket or port 16 to be used
but not both together).

It may be worth you looking for a 24 port switch - these are often the same
size as a 16 port model so will replace the whole of your existing unit and
provide spare ports for future expansion as well as solving your problem,
also look for any companies in your area upgrading to gigabit as when
businesses upgrade they often just discard or give away their old hardware
(or any computer stores that take old kit in for trade-in as they may have
something they've taken in exchange they can sell cheaply - I've paid £1
for 10/100 switches in the past that way).
date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:41:45 +0100   author:   Nigel Feltham

Re: Switch   
On Aug 1, 12:41 pm, Nigel Feltham 
wrote:
> Wagg wrote:
> > On Jul 31, 3:21 pm, Gareth Halfacree  wrote:
> >> Wagg wrote:
> >> > Has anyone got a really small one? I only need two RJ-45 ports, as the
> >> > one on the end has died, and I need one more space... I dont want an 8
> >> > or anything if I can help it, either a 2 port or a 4 port would be
> >> > idea. I'd even consider a 10 base if it will work! Those 2 only deal
> >> > with internet and email only!
>
> >> Three.  You'd need a minimum of *three* ports, not two - unless you just
> >> want to connect two PCs to each other, in which case a crossover cable
> >> is cheaper.
>
> >> Realistically you're looking at a four port, as nobody makes three port
> >> switches.
>
> >> --
> >> Gareth Halfacreehttp://gareth.halfacree.co.uk
>
> > I have a 16 port, the very last port doesn't work, and I need to
> > connect one computer. So I want to take port 15 out, plug it into a
> > switch, and one more into that switch. 4 port it is then, just not
> > going to use the other two ports, and wanted something small :)
>
> Then you do need 3 ports - 1 to connect to port 15 of the old switch, one
> for the device that was connected to port 15 and one for the device that
> was in port 16.
>
> So you either need a 4 port switch and only use 3 ports or a 2 port one with
> an extra uplink port.
>
> Look for a button labelled uplink/normal on the old switch and try selecting
> other setting. Has your switch got a 17th socket as an uplink port - if it
> has one that was previously unused but has recently had a connection made
> to it then doing this may have disabled port 16 (some hubs have an extra
> socket for uplink but only allow either this socket or port 16 to be used
> but not both together).
>
> It may be worth you looking for a 24 port switch - these are often the same
> size as a 16 port model so will replace the whole of your existing unit and
> provide spare ports for future expansion as well as solving your problem,
> also look for any companies in your area upgrading to gigabit as when
> businesses upgrade they often just discard or give away their old hardware
> (or any computer stores that take old kit in for trade-in as they may have
> something they've taken in exchange they can sell cheaply - I've paid £1
> for 10/100 switches in the past that way).- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Right, complete mind blank there, forgot about the connecting of it to
the existing one, sorry about that!

Only 16 ports on it, on the front, nothing on the rear other than some
expansion slots with things fitted. I thought about replacing the
whole thing, but that isn't cost effective, I can buy a refurbished
one of a slightly better model, but for one port, it doesnt seem worth
it, I am happy to connect another smaller switch in, and I dont have a
lot of room in the cabinet, although I suppose I could put one up on
top!

I will try some shops near here, see what they have. I only have 16
licences to the ports, and not enough room to expand much beyond that,
possibly in the future, but no time near I suspect!

-Ben
date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 09:12:30 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Wagg

Re: Switch   
Wagg wrote:
> On Aug 1, 12:41 pm, Nigel Feltham 
> wrote:
>> Wagg wrote:
>>> On Jul 31, 3:21 pm, Gareth Halfacree  wrote:
>>>> Wagg wrote:
>>>>> Has anyone got a really small one? I only need two RJ-45 ports, as the
>>>>> one on the end has died, and I need one more space... I dont want an 8
>>>>> or anything if I can help it, either a 2 port or a 4 port would be
>>>>> idea. I'd even consider a 10 base if it will work! Those 2 only deal
>>>>> with internet and email only!
>>>> Three.  You'd need a minimum of *three* ports, not two - unless you just
>>>> want to connect two PCs to each other, in which case a crossover cable
>>>> is cheaper.
>>>> Realistically you're looking at a four port, as nobody makes three port
>>>> switches.
>>>> --
>>>> Gareth Halfacreehttp://gareth.halfacree.co.uk
>>> I have a 16 port, the very last port doesn't work, and I need to
>>> connect one computer. So I want to take port 15 out, plug it into a
>>> switch, and one more into that switch. 4 port it is then, just not
>>> going to use the other two ports, and wanted something small :)
>> Then you do need 3 ports - 1 to connect to port 15 of the old switch, one
>> for the device that was connected to port 15 and one for the device that
>> was in port 16.
>>
>> So you either need a 4 port switch and only use 3 ports or a 2 port one with
>> an extra uplink port.
>>
>> Look for a button labelled uplink/normal on the old switch and try selecting
>> other setting. Has your switch got a 17th socket as an uplink port - if it
>> has one that was previously unused but has recently had a connection made
>> to it then doing this may have disabled port 16 (some hubs have an extra
>> socket for uplink but only allow either this socket or port 16 to be used
>> but not both together).
>>
>> It may be worth you looking for a 24 port switch - these are often the same
>> size as a 16 port model so will replace the whole of your existing unit and
>> provide spare ports for future expansion as well as solving your problem,
>> also look for any companies in your area upgrading to gigabit as when
>> businesses upgrade they often just discard or give away their old hardware
>> (or any computer stores that take old kit in for trade-in as they may have
>> something they've taken in exchange they can sell cheaply - I've paid £1
>> for 10/100 switches in the past that way).- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> 
> Right, complete mind blank there, forgot about the connecting of it to
> the existing one, sorry about that!
> 
> Only 16 ports on it, on the front, nothing on the rear other than some
> expansion slots with things fitted. I thought about replacing the
> whole thing, but that isn't cost effective, I can buy a refurbished
> one of a slightly better model, but for one port, it doesnt seem worth
> it, I am happy to connect another smaller switch in, and I dont have a
> lot of room in the cabinet, although I suppose I could put one up on
> top!
> 
> I will try some shops near here, see what they have. I only have 16
> licences to the ports, and not enough room to expand much beyond that,
> possibly in the future, but no time near I suspect!
> 
> -Ben
if you get stuck I have a virtually unused Netgear FS105 5 port 10/100 
jobby thats not much longer than 5 ports
http://www.netgear.co.uk/unmanaged_ethernet_switch_fs105.php
£12 by first class post

-- 
Kevin R
Reply address works
date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 21:24:02 +0100   author:   Kevin

Re: Switch   
Wagg wrote:

> Only 16 ports on it, on the front, nothing on the rear other than some
> expansion slots with things fitted. I thought about replacing the
> whole thing, but that isn't cost effective, I can buy a refurbished
> one of a slightly better model, but for one port, it doesnt seem worth
> it, I am happy to connect another smaller switch in, and I dont have a
> lot of room in the cabinet, although I suppose I could put one up on
> top!

Some switches disable port 16 if anything is fitted to the expansion slots
(these slots can hold the uplink connection - often either wired or optical
link to another switch or building). so worth removing any expansions that
aren't actually being used.
date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:38:59 +0100   author:   Nigel Feltham

Re: Switch   
On Aug 2, 3:38 pm, Nigel Feltham  wrote:
> Wagg wrote:
> > Only 16 ports on it, on the front, nothing on the rear other than some
> > expansion slots with things fitted. I thought about replacing the
> > whole thing, but that isn't cost effective, I can buy a refurbished
> > one of a slightly better model, but for one port, it doesnt seem worth
> > it, I am happy to connect another smaller switch in, and I dont have a
> > lot of room in the cabinet, although I suppose I could put one up on
> > top!
>
> Some switches disable port 16 if anything is fitted to the expansion slots
> (these slots can hold the uplink connection - often either wired or optical
> link to another switch or building). so worth removing any expansions that
> aren't actually being used.

All the expansion slots are used. It worked fine for about 3 months
and then has just stopped. Nothing else in the box stopped tho, just
port 16... I've spoken to the people who make the box, but they have
no ideas, short of sending it back and they will investigate it, but
then I wont be able to do anything without a box. Its a no-win
situation, at the moment tho I can live with it, its just a pita!

-Ben
date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 17:49:12 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Wagg

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