Hi guys

I emailed support@virgin.net and asked them which section dealt with adding 
newsgroups to news.virgin.com and text.news.virginmedia.com

I got a reply from Brijesh saying 'I wish to inform you, we will support our 
newsgroup only" !!!

He/she then linked me to 'chat remote assistance, where our technical 
support agents will assist'
Needless to say, the page froze and I got an error message. I tried 
navigating virgin's help menus and got completely baffled. Does anyone have 
a link to the appropriate department or robot?

Ok I'm not an oldbie, but I'm sorely tempted TIA.

JW

Message-ID: <etQCl.25$E45.1@newsfe26.ams2> from Jack Wayland contained
the following:

>I emailed support@virgin.net and asked them which section dealt with adding 
>newsgroups to news.virgin.com and text.news.virginmedia.com
>
>I got a reply from Brijesh saying 'I wish to inform you, we will support our 
>newsgroup only" !!!


It's a good while since I looked but I imagine he means that the Virgin
news server only carries a certain number of newsgroups.  Virgin used to
carry their own internal groups as well.  

If the group is properly formed and generally available it should be
there.  Sometimes you need to refresh the groups list.

A better solution is to ditch Virgin and spend six quid  a year on
getting a feed from news.individual.net
-- 
Geoff Berrow (put thecat out to email)
It's only Usenet, no one dies.
My opinions, not the committee's, mine.
Simple RFDs http://www.ckdog.co.uk/rfdmaker/

"Geoff Berrow" < wrote in message
> Message-ID: from Jack Wayland contained
> the following:
>
>>I emailed support@virgin.net and asked them which section dealt with 
>>adding
>>newsgroups to news.virgin.com and text.news.virginmedia.com
>>
>>I got a reply from Brijesh saying 'I wish to inform you, we will support 
>>our
>>newsgroup only" !!!
>
>
> It's a good while since I looked but I imagine he means that the Virgin
> news server only carries a certain number of newsgroups.  Virgin used to
> carry their own internal groups as well.
>
> If the group is properly formed and generally available it should be
> there.  Sometimes you need to refresh the groups list.
>
> A better solution is to ditch Virgin and spend six quid  a year on
> getting a feed from news.individual.net
> -- 

Thanks Geoff but most odd. I searched the vn list of groups again today and 
the two groups I requested (both Italian local) have appeared!! Perhaps the 
message I got from vn.support is a standard bot generated one.
Is it possible that they read this forum??  choc horreur!!
JL

Message-ID: <Ai1Dl.2034$as4.349@newsfe04.ams2> from Jack Wayland
contained the following:

>Thanks Geoff but most odd. I searched the vn list of groups again today and 
>the two groups I requested (both Italian local) have appeared!! Perhaps the 
>message I got from vn.support is a standard bot generated one.
>Is it possible that they read this forum??  choc horreur!!

Most unlikely I would have thought.
-- 
Regards,
Geoff Berrow
http://www.slipperyhill.co.uk - Blue grass, blues, barn dance
http://4theweb.co.uk - Web design, development and hosting

"Geoff Berrow" < wrote in message
> Message-ID: < from Jack Wayland

>>>Sometimes you need to refresh the groups list.

>>Thanks Geoff but most odd. I searched the vn list of groups again today 
>>and
>>the two groups I requested (both Italian local) have appeared!! Perhaps 
>>the
>>message I got from vn.support is a standard bot generated one.
>>Is it possible that they read this forum??  choc horreur!!

> Most unlikely I would have thought.

It's possible I may have accidently refreshed the groups list. How do you 
deliberately refresh the groups list on OE?
JW
.

On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:40:47 +0100, Geoff Berrow  did make
me awaken from my chaotic existentialism when they didst announce:

>Message-ID: <etQCl.25$E45.1@newsfe26.ams2> from Jack Wayland contained
>the following:
>
>>I emailed support@virgin.net and asked them which section dealt with adding 
>>newsgroups to news.virgin.com and text.news.virginmedia.com
>>
>>I got a reply from Brijesh saying 'I wish to inform you, we will support our 
>>newsgroup only" !!!

Here in the US, ISPs are killing USENET off by dropping their NNTP services :(
I just subscribed to Giganews so I can get my old groups, so have to use a
"filtered" service.

Better than nowt.......

--
OldbieOne - 
The guy who tells it like it is!

"OldbieOne"  wrote in message
> On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:40:47 +0100, Geoff Berrow < did make
> me awaken from my chaotic existentialism when they didst announce:
>
>>Message-ID: <etQCl.25$E45.1@newsfe26.ams2> from Jack Wayland contained
>>the following:
>>
>>>I emailed support@virgin.net and asked them which section dealt with 
>>>adding
>>>newsgroups to news.virgin.com and text.news.virginmedia.com
>>>
>>>I got a reply from Brijesh saying 'I wish to inform you, we will support 
>>>our
>>>newsgroup only" !!!
>
> Here in the US, ISPs are killing USENET off by dropping their NNTP 
> services :(
> I just subscribed to Giganews so I can get my old groups, so have to use a
> "filtered" service.
>
> Better than nowt.......
>
Anyone out there with techy knowhow. I loaded freebie server :-
http://albasani.net/
I went to OE tools/accounts/news/add and added albasani but when it asked 
"subscribe to newsgroup - Yes" I got the following : "OE unable to retrieve 
ng's from albasani.net
This would be handy if I could load it, I guess it's a settings issue - help 
please.

"Jack Wayland"  wrote in message
>
> Anyone out there with techy knowhow. I loaded freebie server :-
> http://albasani.net/
> I went to OE tools/accounts/news/add and added albasani but when it asked 
> "subscribe to newsgroup - Yes" I got the following : "OE unable to 
> retrieve ng's from albasani.net
> This would be handy if I could load it, I guess it's a settings issue - 
> help please.
>
>
Oops, it was the settings, I had the wrong port or summat. Albasani sounds 
Italian but it's German. They even have their own ng for techy probs. Seems 
to work ok and it's a freebie.

On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:27:45 +0100, "Jack Wayland" <foobar@invalid.invalid> did
make me awaken from my chaotic existentialism when they didst announce:

>
>"Jack Wayland"  wrote in message
>>
>> Anyone out there with techy knowhow. I loaded freebie server :-
>> http://albasani.net/
>> I went to OE tools/accounts/news/add and added albasani but when it asked 
>> "subscribe to newsgroup - Yes" I got the following : "OE unable to 
>> retrieve ng's from albasani.net
>> This would be handy if I could load it, I guess it's a settings issue - 
>> help please.
>>
>>
>Oops, it was the settings, I had the wrong port or summat. Albasani sounds 
>Italian but it's German. They even have their own ng for techy probs. Seems 
>to work ok and it's a freebie.

Works for this group? I'm so signing up. I'm paying right now just so I can get
to the alt.uk* and alt.2600* groups 
--
OldbieOne - 
The guy who tells it like it is!

"OldbieOne"  wrote in message 
news:ehlfu49scftgq4iqi3cvdp6m7kdmio6lpo@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:27:45 +0100, "Jack Wayland" 
> <foobar@invalid.invalid> did
> make me awaken from my chaotic existentialism when they didst announce:
>
>>
>>"Jack Wayland"  wrote in message
>>>
>>> Anyone out there with techy knowhow. I loaded freebie server :-
>>> http://albasani.net/
>>> I went to OE tools/accounts/news/add and added albasani but when it 
>>> asked
>>> "subscribe to newsgroup - Yes" I got the following : "OE unable to
>>> retrieve ng's from albasani.net
>>> This would be handy if I could load it, I guess it's a settings issue -
>>> help please.
>>>
>>>
>>Oops, it was the settings, I had the wrong port or summat. Albasani sounds
>>Italian but it's German. They even have their own ng for techy probs. 
>>Seems
>>to work ok and it's a freebie.
>
> Works for this group? I'm so signing up. I'm paying right now just so I 
> can get
> to the alt.uk* and alt.2600* groups
> --

I'm using albasani now, I went into synchro groups and saw about 20 odd 
alt.2600 groups and a lot of alt.uk groups. I guess they will add a group if 
you ask. Use the request form and you will get a reply from Alexander 
Bartolich PDQ.
http://albasani.net/index.html  albasani is usenet only - no emails.
http://albasani.net/wiki/Main_Page

.

"OldbieOne"  wrote in message 
news:ehlfu49scftgq4iqi3cvdp6m7kdmio6lpo@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:27:45 +0100, "Jack Wayland" 
> <foobar@invalid.invalid> did
> make me awaken from my chaotic existentialism when they didst announce:
>
>>
>>"Jack Wayland"  wrote in message
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Oops, it was the settings, I had the wrong port or summat. Albasani sounds
>>Italian but it's German. They even have their own ng for techy probs. 
>>Seems
>>to work ok and it's a freebie.
>
> Works for this group? I'm so signing up. I'm paying right now just so I 
> can get
> to the alt.uk* and alt.2600* groups

The n/s with one of the largest ng counts is text.news.cambrium.nl at nearly 
200k
http://preview.tinyurl.com/c3msko if you click t.n.cambrium on this link
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2d42cp then "try clicking on this link to get to 
server"
it automatically loads cambrium onto your newsreader. I didn't see 
albasani.net listed on freenewsnetnews.com ??

"Jack Wayland" <foobar@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
news:gsc5q4$ehb$1@news.albasani.net...
>
> "OldbieOne"  wrote in message 
> news:ehlfu49scftgq4iqi3cvdp6m7kdmio6lpo@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:27:45 +0100, "Jack Wayland" 
>> <foobar@invalid.invalid> did
>> make me awaken from my chaotic existentialism when they didst announce:
>>
>>>
>>>"Jack Wayland"  wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Oops, it was the settings, I had the wrong port or summat. Albasani 
>>>sounds
>>>Italian but it's German. They even have their own ng for techy probs. 
>>>Seems
>>>to work ok and it's a freebie.
>>
>> Works for this group? I'm so signing up. I'm paying right now just so I 
>> can get
>> to the alt.uk* and alt.2600* groups
>
> The n/s with one of the largest ng counts is text.news.cambrium.nl at 
> nearly 200k
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/c3msko if you click t.n.cambrium on this link
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/2d42cp then "try clicking on this link to get 
> to server"
> it automatically loads cambrium onto your newsreader. I didn't see 
> albasani.net listed on freenewsnetnews.com ??


Well, I sent an email,. got an acct, and here I am using Albasani. Works 
great.
Anyone here remember my old USENET server? Goes back a while........

"OldbieOne" >>wrote
Jack Wayland wrote
>> The n/s with one of the largest ng counts is text.news.cambrium.nl at 
>> nearly 200k
>> http://preview.tinyurl.com/c3msko if you click t.n.cambrium on this link
>> http://preview.tinyurl.com/2d42cp then "try clicking on this link to get 
>> to server"
>> it automatically loads cambrium onto your newsreader. I didn't see 
>> albasani.net listed on freenewsnetnews.com ??
>
>
> Well, I sent an email,. got an acct, and here I am using Albasani. Works 
> great.
> Anyone here remember my old USENET server? Goes back a while........

Let me guess, did it have the word "Virgin" writ in large friendly letters?
I'm using 4 servers at the mo' including news.individual.net (which also 
started out free!!) it's dead handy if one goes clang.
.

"Jack Wayland" <foobar@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
news:gsfb19$juq$1@news.albasani.net...
>
> "OldbieOne" >>wrote
> Jack Wayland wrote
>>> The n/s with one of the largest ng counts is text.news.cambrium.nl at 
>>> nearly 200k
>>> http://preview.tinyurl.com/c3msko if you click t.n.cambrium on this link
>>> http://preview.tinyurl.com/2d42cp then "try clicking on this link to get 
>>> to server"
>>> it automatically loads cambrium onto your newsreader. I didn't see 
>>> albasani.net listed on freenewsnetnews.com ??
>>
>>
>> Well, I sent an email,. got an acct, and here I am using Albasani. Works 
>> great.
>> Anyone here remember my old USENET server? Goes back a while........
>
> Let me guess, did it have the word "Virgin" writ in large friendly 
> letters?
> I'm using 4 servers at the mo' including news.individual.net (which also 
> started out free!!) it's dead handy if one goes clang.

Nah, it was a long time ago now, right after this group was created by a 
magic spell Geoff made, that was executed by yours truly, in a not so 
professional USENET way, LOL!!! Virgin news service sucked when I was a 
customer, it was very slow and half the time I couldn't get a connection. I 
wrote their FAQ section for them too, while it was still a "volunteer" 
community and before they actually hired support people, LOL!

Their mail was also abysmal. One time, about 2 months after launching, their 
mail server (notice, I say "server" not "service") failed because it 
couldn't handle a single large volume email.......a send of 1,000,000 emails 
to Virgin brought the mail service down for an entire week. Enterprise was 
pissed, because the script was on their server, but they couldn't find out 
who's acct it was run from. Gotta love a host that will let you 
cgi....*grin*

The script was supposed to send 1,000 emails to someone, just to see if it 
could be done, but for some reason, generated about a million 1kb emails. It 
was obvious that they had no clustered mail servers, or any kind of load 
balancing at all.

"OldbieOne"  wrote in message 
news:gsgdns$3vk$1@news.albasani.net...
>
> "Jack Wayland" <foobar@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
> news:gsfb19$juq$1@news.albasani.net...
>>
>> "OldbieOne" >>wrote
>> Jack Wayland wrote
>>>> The n/s with one of the largest ng counts is text.news.cambrium.nl at 
>>>> nearly 200k
>>>> http://preview.tinyurl.com/c3msko if you click t.n.cambrium on this 
>>>> link
>>>> http://preview.tinyurl.com/2d42cp then "try clicking on this link to 
>>>> get to server"
>>>> it automatically loads cambrium onto your newsreader. I didn't see 
>>>> albasani.net listed on freenewsnetnews.com ??
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I sent an email,. got an acct, and here I am using Albasani. Works 
>>> great.
>>> Anyone here remember my old USENET server? Goes back a while........
>>
>> Let me guess, did it have the word "Virgin" writ in large friendly 
>> letters?
>> I'm using 4 servers at the mo' including news.individual.net (which also 
>> started out free!!) it's dead handy if one goes clang.
>
> Nah, it was a long time ago now, right after this group was created by a 
> magic spell Geoff made, that was executed by yours truly, in a not so 
> professional USENET way, LOL!!! Virgin news service sucked when I was a 
> customer, it was very slow and half the time I couldn't get a connection. 
> I wrote their FAQ section for them too, while it was still a "volunteer" 
> community and before they actually hired support people, LOL!
>
> Their mail was also abysmal. One time, about 2 months after launching, 
> their mail server (notice, I say "server" not "service") failed because it 
> couldn't handle a single large volume email.......a send of 1,000,000 
> emails to Virgin brought the mail service down for an entire week. 
> Enterprise was pissed, because the script was on their server, but they 
> couldn't find out who's acct it was run from. Gotta love a host that will 
> let you cgi....*grin*
>
> The script was supposed to send 1,000 emails to someone, just to see if it 
> could be done, but for some reason, generated about a million 1kb emails. 
> It was obvious that they had no clustered mail servers, or any kind of 
> load balancing at all.
>

I'm surprised they weren't done under the T.D.Act for misleading brand name. 
After all "Virgin" suggests "maybe" A more accurate name :  'BlackHole.net' 
has a nice ring to it?

.

"Jack Wayland" <foobar@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
news:gshda0$9au$1@news.albasani.net...
>
> "OldbieOne"  wrote in message 
> news:gsgdns$3vk$1@news.albasani.net...
>>
>> "Jack Wayland" <foobar@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
>> news:gsfb19$juq$1@news.albasani.net...
>>>
>>> "OldbieOne" >>wrote
>>> Jack Wayland wrote
>>>>> The n/s with one of the largest ng counts is text.news.cambrium.nl at 
>>>>> nearly 200k
>>>>> http://preview.tinyurl.com/c3msko if you click t.n.cambrium on this 
>>>>> link
>>>>> http://preview.tinyurl.com/2d42cp then "try clicking on this link to 
>>>>> get to server"
>>>>> it automatically loads cambrium onto your newsreader. I didn't see 
>>>>> albasani.net listed on freenewsnetnews.com ??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, I sent an email,. got an acct, and here I am using Albasani. 
>>>> Works great.
>>>> Anyone here remember my old USENET server? Goes back a while........
>>>
>>> Let me guess, did it have the word "Virgin" writ in large friendly 
>>> letters?
>>> I'm using 4 servers at the mo' including news.individual.net (which also 
>>> started out free!!) it's dead handy if one goes clang.
>>
>> Nah, it was a long time ago now, right after this group was created by a 
>> magic spell Geoff made, that was executed by yours truly, in a not so 
>> professional USENET way, LOL!!! Virgin news service sucked when I was a 
>> customer, it was very slow and half the time I couldn't get a connection. 
>> I wrote their FAQ section for them too, while it was still a "volunteer" 
>> community and before they actually hired support people, LOL!
>>
>> Their mail was also abysmal. One time, about 2 months after launching, 
>> their mail server (notice, I say "server" not "service") failed because 
>> it couldn't handle a single large volume email.......a send of 1,000,000 
>> emails to Virgin brought the mail service down for an entire week. 
>> Enterprise was pissed, because the script was on their server, but they 
>> couldn't find out who's acct it was run from. Gotta love a host that will 
>> let you cgi....*grin*
>>
>> The script was supposed to send 1,000 emails to someone, just to see if 
>> it could be done, but for some reason, generated about a million 1kb 
>> emails. It was obvious that they had no clustered mail servers, or any 
>> kind of load balancing at all.
>>
>
> I'm surprised they weren't done under the T.D.Act for misleading brand 
> name. After all "Virgin" suggests "maybe" A more accurate name : 
> 'BlackHole.net' has a nice ring to it?
>

ROTFLMAO!!!