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date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:12:10 +0100,    group: alt.uk.law        back       
RSPCA called to account   
http://www.ourdogs.co.uk/News/2009/July2009/News310709/rspca.htm

RSPCA called to account

This week we report through two important articles on the work of the 
RSPCA in recent years. Despite the commitment and good work throughout 
the country by the local branches (which are not funded by the national 
charity) the national charity focuses on public relations and 
prosecutions to the extent that are several specialist lawyers in the UK 
whose main case load is defending (usually successfully) those 
individuals and small businesses taken to court by the RSPCA.

There are occasional high profile cases where there has been good cause 
for concern and action but we have too much evidence of delay and 
procrastination when animal abuse is reported and that ?easy option? 
prosecutions are targeted by RSPCA inspectors.

One of those specialist lawyers to is Jonathan Rich, a barrister and 
animal welfare specialist who was interviewed recently by Robert 
Killick.

Life is of paramount importance!

OVER THE past twenty years Jonathan (?Joe?) Rich has defended well over 
200 people - mainly farmers, huntsmen, kennel owners and dog breeders. 
In 2007, he famously and successfully defended pet shop owner Simon 
Gilbert three times. Joe recently acted for Paul Shotton, Labour?s 
former deputy Mayor of Stoke-on-Trent, and his wife Annette during their 
successful appeal. He is recognised as a leading consumer specialist by 
all the main legal directories.

RK: How do you think other people see you?

jr: As with most people, it probably depends who you ask. I?d like 
people to think that I try my best for clients, and with a smile - no 
matter how successfully they have been demonised by the time of the 
trial. You might be surprised to learn that I have a good professional 
relationship with several of the RSPCA?s lawyers. One of them even asked 
me for a reference recently, which I was very happy to provide - and 
wholeheartedly recommend them. On one occasion, after my client had been 
given a discharge, the inspector-in-charge shook me warmly by the hand, 
told me that everything she?s been told about me was not true and 
thanked me for sorting out all the problems in the case. After another, 
one of the RSPCA inspectors gave me a badge!

RK:Do you have a role model?

JR: My father - who I think I?ve actually come to respect even more 
since his death than I did before. He was a gentle soul from a Quaker 
family. In 1939 he volunteered for the Royal Engineers - my grandmother 
insisted he must not fight. Frontline Stevedore, a BBC documentary, 
featured him and his men being dive-bombed by Stukas as they unloaded 
Churchill tanks for the battle of El Alamein. My grandmother was very 
proud. I?d like to think we still live in the liberal democracy he 
fought for, but sometimes I?m not so sure.

RK:What?s the best advice you?ve ever given a client?

JR: ?No one wins a fight, they just lose it to different extents? - I?ve 
said this several times to clients as an aid to settlement, especially 
in mediations. It almost always works - you can sometimes even see the 
scales falling from their eyes. Settlement is a medium in which people 
can often do more for each other than a court could ever order, but the 
right settlement always needs to be fought for and won.

rk: What has been the most rewarding experience of your life so far?

JR: A bit of a clichE9, but unquestionably the two Sundays on which my 
two young daughters were born. You probably mean my professional life, 
though. If so, then it?s the third time that Simon Gilbert was acquitted 
- although Paul Shotton?s case was a real achievement. We had to deal 
with a lot of threats in both cases. Also, watching the BNP leaving the 
public gallery during the appeal hearing in Shotton, when they realised 
the RSPCA?s case was lost, gave all of us a great sense of satisfaction, 
though. The case was a terrible battle.

RK:You?re a Tory Councillor - did that make representing Paul Shotton 
interesting?

jr: I?ve done a lot of things for the Tories over the years, and I?m 
still a Conservative Councillor. It certainly didn?t get in the way with 
Paul. He did his homework and asked for me, which was nice. The fact 
that I?m a Tory was certainly a talking point, though. Paul is a man for 
whom, incidentally, I have an immense amount of respect. The BNP really 
put him through the mill and it was a feature of the case that might 
have been even bigger than it was. Paul is a man who deserves better 
than that.

RK:In the Shotton case, the RSPCA?s sensational allegation that his 
Labrador, Baron was emaciated and dehydrated and had been left outside 
to die obviously got the story into the papers. When did you realise 
that something was wrong and that the allegations were untrue?

JR:It?s not really my job to ?realise? or ?know? things, as such. Paul 
was always, and rightly it turned out, insistent that the allegations 
were untrue. It was my job to represent him in accordance with his 
instructions. The biggest obstacle was clear evidence from an 
experienced RSPCA vet who claimed he?d weighed Baron at 19kg. The 
Shottons? own vet had weighed Baron at 30kg a few months before, so 
Baron seemed to have lost a lot of weight. We had to allege that the 
RSPCA vet was mistaken, but he gave all sorts of detail about how he?d 
personally weighed Baron standing on his own scales. Nigel Weller, my 
Solicitor, pressed the RSPCA for disclosure of the blood tests referred 
to in the RSPCA vet?s evidence. The RSPCA?s vet claimed it was the 
Shottons? vets who lost them.

We eventually got the bloods from the RSPCA just before the first trial. 
They showed there was no dehydration or emaciation. On appeal, Nigel 
Weller had Dr Udo Hetzel, the top veterinary pathologist at Liverpool 
University, do a full post mortem. Incredibly embarrassing things for 
the RSPCA came to light - Baron?s carcass weighed 29.6kg and he?d not 
been fed for a day at the RSPCA vet?s surgery. Rather than drop the 
case, the RSPCA threats of applications for wasted costs were made if Dr 
Hetzel was called. You just can?t imagine the CPS doing that.

We did call Dr Hetzel. By the time he gave his evidence, the RSPCA?s vet 
had seen the way things were going and confessed that he had not weighed 
Baron at all. He claimed that he?d got the erroneous figure of 19kg from 
his veterinary nurse - we had to get all this from the vet, not from the 
RSPCA, though.

rk: That?s an amazing, but terrifying, story. Do you think the RSPCA 
should be allowed to prosecute as they see fit or should there be some 
control by the CPS as suggested by MPs like Roger Gale and Frank Field?

JR:There should. These cases are just two of many examples. The RSPCA 
spends the best part of A310,000,000 a year on its private prosecutions. 
This is money that is being diverted from what the people think that the 
RSPCA do. I don?t think the RSPCA will ever stop prosecuting people and 
hand their files to the CPS, like the Scottish SPCA has to, and does 
very successfully. It?s time to urgently amend the Police and Criminal 
Evidence Act and stop the RSPCA from prosecuting. That act stopped the 
police from prosecuting and made them to refer all their files to the 
CPS. Animal welfare charities should focus on animal welfare, not on 
prosecutions.

The disgust which I have heard expressed for the RSPCA as a result of 
what their prosecutions department is doing at the moment is terrifying. 
It can?t be good for the long-term health of the charity, or the value 
of its ?Freedom Food? brand.

rk: Disabled charities and pensioners? groups are obviously up in arms 
about the RSPCA at the moment. Have members of the public really got 
anything to worry about?

JR: If you do keep animals, then common decency dictates that you must 
ensure they are properly looked after. If you do, then you?ll probably 
be okay, unless you are in a ?high risk? group. Putting these to one 
side, most problems with the RSPCA happen when people are too old, too 
sick or too inexperienced to look after animals properly. Disability Now 
did a huge piece last year on the impact of the RSPCA on pensioners and 
the disabled. Rachel Hurst and Anna Bird, who know a lot about the 
subject, contributed and said some very worrying things. RSPCA v Child C 
case was a terrifying prosecution, and I agree with the remarks the 
child?s barrister, Nick Tucker, made afterwards to the BBC?s File on 4.

The case that I did for Roberta Mitchell is a good example perhaps. She 
was raided by the RSPCA and the police while she was spending her time 
at her dying husband?s bedside. She was under terrible strain and I 
could never see the CPS prosecuting her. Pat Seager?s case was a 
disgrace. MPs like Frank Field and Roger Gale have done some very 
powerful points to the BBC and elsewhere. Many others have voiced 
similar concerns too.

RK:How many people have got to call for the RSPCA to stop prosecuting 
before something is done?

JR:Something quite important happened recently - Chris Laurence, Chief 
Veterinary Officer at the Dog?s Trust, joined the chorus calling for an 
independent inquiry. Chris used to do the same job at the RSPCA, and I 
think he knows a thing or two. The RSPCA is just too embedded in New 
Labour, though. As everyone knows New Labour took A31.1m off the 
Political Animal Lobby (PAL) to abolish hunting. PAL was chaired by 
Richard Ryder, one of the fathers of the animal rights movement. Ryder 
has been an RSPCA ruling Councillor for decades and he was also RSPCA 
Chairman. Although there is no direct evidence that this money came from 
the RSPCA there does not appear to be any other obvious source.

I do not think the present Government has the political will to protect 
vulnerable people from private prosecutors. The RSPCA is the darling of 
the Labour Animal Welfare Society (LAWS) and they wouldn?t permit such a 
change either. Dianne Hayter, the Chair of Labour?s National Executive 
Committee is elected onto the NEC by Socialist societies like LAWS. The 
NEC is responsible for policy formulation and I just can?t see her 
permitting such a policy change. There is no shortage of people on all 
sides of the spectrum calling for it to happen. It would be a very 
popular move indeed - Long Bingham recently observed that private 
prosecutions are unknown in Scotland.

RK:Do you think that everyone who works for the RSPCA is an extremist?

JR :Absolutely not! The RSPCA?s problems stem from rigid dogma dictated 
from on high. It might be controversial for me to say this but I have 
always thought that the RSPCA?s foot-soldiers are generally pretty 
reasonable and decent people. Most of those that work at RSPCA 
Headquarters are pretty sensible too. When inspectors make mistakes, 
they are often young people thrown in at the deep end, trying to do a 
difficult job well. Many of them do not believe in animal rights.

The RSPCA certainly has had some extreme policies and its share of 
extremists. Its declaration in favour of animal rights was highly 
controversial, but it has had to formally drop that because it?s a 
political, not a charitable objective. Every organisation has its share 
of oddballs. The RSPCA is perhaps a natural place to work for people who 
want animals? rights.

RK: You believe passionately in ?animal welfare?, but speak and campaign 
against ?animal rights?. What?s the difference?

JR: They are complete opposites. Animal welfare is a charitable 
objective - and what I, and the overwhelming majority of people, believe 
in. It?s about ensuring the wellbeing of animals, including those used 
to satisfy human needs. From companionship to sport, from food and 
clothing to medical research, animals must not experience unnecessary 
suffering and must have their basic needs - food, shelter and health - 
fulfilled.

Animal rights philosophy, on the other hand, rejects all animal use, no 
matter how humane. It?s a political objective, which the RSPCA recently 
had to formally drop for fear of losing its charitable status. Richard 
Ryder?s classic dictum, ?all animals that feel pain deserve human 
rights,? is a contradiction, but you can understand what he was trying 
to say. He invented the concept of ?speciesism? - the animal equivalent 
of racism. Animals are not property, so goes the theory, and must not be 
used for food, clothing, research or as pets.

RK:If the RSPCA believes in rights for animals, what do you think of 
reports that it kills so many healthy ones?

JR: The RSPCA is making it very hard for decent people to take rescue 
dogs from them at the moment. It also has a ?euthanasia? policy, based 
on the teachings of Richard Ryder and Peter Singer, who are leading 
lights within both the animal rights movement and the RSPCA. Ryder is a 
former RSPCA Chairman and remains a ruling Councillor. Peter Singer is 
Vice-President. The policy means that people who do not ?euthanse? 
animals that are in distress are putting themselves in danger of an 
RSPCA private prosecution, unless their vet supervises very closely. It 
also means that animals that stay in kennels too long get euthanased, as 
they become impossible to adopt after a time. I?ve never really 
understood how euthanasia was compatible with animal rights, but animal 
rights activists generally advocate euthanasia for all animals - humans 
included. For me, the sanctity of life is paramount.

RK: What about people with old dogs and cats?

JR: The Shotton case for me illustrates the fact that people with old 
dogs and cats are in a ?high risk? group. Having an animal which is old, 
or which has a long-standing illness, can be an expensive process; old 
animals can get ill very quickly. In a civilised society, there should 
be no need for hyper-vigilance, though. It is owners, not RSPCA 
Inspectors, who are just ordinary members of the public too, who should 
- subject to veterinary advice - decide whether animals live or die.

RK:You refer to RSPCA inspectors as ?ordinary members of the public?. Do 
you think it is misleading for them to call themselves inspectors?

JR:Yes, I think it is quite misleading - especially when they wear 
police-style uniforms. There was a very interesting article in the 
Sunday Times about this issue a year or so ago. The RSPCA is, contrary 
to appearances, a private organisation. Some people are terrified of the 
RSPCA, and there is absolutely no need to be. No RSPCA employee, so far 
as I am aware, has any special powers or is even an inspector for the 
purposes of the Animal Welfare Act. Indeed, if they are, I want to know 
about it! The title ?RSPCA Inspector? is just a job title, given to an 
RSPCA employee working for the inspectorate department when they finish 
their twelve weeks of training.

The society gives some of its more senior employees even more impressive 
sounding titles: ?Chief Superintendent? and the like. However, they are 
all just job titles; it?s not like the police - RSPCA inspectors are not 
even constables. To think otherwise is a natural mistake to make. One 
problem which is regularly encountered is a police officer who thinks 
that the RSPCA is some sort of agency, or that its employees somehow 
have more powers than ordinary members of the public. If a police 
officer tells you, or behaves as if the RSPCA is an agency or has 
special powers, then that policeman needs to be corrected.

Paul and Annette Shotton were both arrested by the police at the request 
of the RSPCA. In fact, I?ve had several clients - perhaps the best known 
of them was Craig Sargent - who were arrested purely because of an RSPCA 
request that this occur. Paul was arrested while preparing to meet war 
veterans with his local MP; Annette was arrested at work. The RSPCA were 
waiting at the police station to interview them but it was not a police 
case.

RK:How should people behave towards employees of the RSPCA, then?

JR: If you treat all people with respect, including RSPCA personnel, 
then you won?t go far wrong. I tell people to treat them like a Police 
Community Support Officer. Bear in mind, though that PCSOs have some 
powers and that there is no proper complaints procedure for RSPCA 
employees. The RSPCA have to earn your respect and trust, too. They are 
not your friends, although they often claim to be ?trying to help?. Do 
not sign anything they give you without legal advice. If you feel that 
you must sign something, then for goodness sake, read it first!

RK:You speak about people with old animals being in a ?high risk? group 
- are there any ?high risk? groups?

JR: Yes. In my view, kennels, catteries and farms which are not 
affiliated to the RSPCA or its Freedom Food scheme are at ?high risk?. 
This is not an exhaustive list. If you are breeding or dealing in 
animals as a hobby or for a living then you are at risk - especially if 
the RSPCA is running a political campaign in the area. If you breed pets 
for sale, or run a pet shop, then you will almost certainly know what it 
is like to receive an ?unannounced visit? from the RSPCA.

RK:Talking about pet shops, did your experiences with Simon Gilbert 
focus your views?

JR:I have represented a number of pet shop owners in litigation 
involving the RSPCA - perhaps, as you say, most notably Simon Gilbert in 
three cases. Pet shops owners are generally responsible and decent 
people. Simon Gilbert is one of the most decent people that I have met. 
What the media did to him was disgraceful. They put the heading ?Little 
Pet Shop of Horrors? and a picture of Simon and his shop on the front 
page of the local newspaper. Simon had to move his family to Ireland on 
police advice in order to protect them from the consequent animal rights 
activities. He was acquitted of everything three times. Judge Andrew 
Collender QC was rightly very concerned about the way that the 
prosecution had been handled.

The Pet Shops Act 1951 sets out the desirability of, and regime for, 
properly run and licensed pet shops. We established that the RSPCA had 
been running a political campaign to change the law for some time. In a 
letter to all licensing authorities, which was disclosed in Simon?s 
case, the RSPCA explained that it was against pet shops and invited 
licensors to tighten up on the very high BVA standards. Making it hard 
for an otherwise profitable trade to operate lawfully generates more 
cash for unlawful and unethical operators.

As with drugs, people are willing to spend lots of money on the ?right? 
dog. However, if pet shop owners operate like Simon Gilbert did - 
keeping pets in superb conditions and ensuring the integrity of his 
suppliers - then I think that the battle against puppy farmers will be 
won. Sue Haslam, the top veterinary expert on welfare, described 
conditions in Simon?s shop as, ?better than in most veterinary 
surgeries.? Simon sadly gave up his shop after the third prosecution. 
That was a victory for no one - other than unethical puppy farmers.

RK:What should someone do when the RSPCA arrive uninvited?

JR :This is a classic question - as you might imagine, I am asked it a 
lot. There is, sadly, now no definitive answer to the ?unannounced 
visit?. Although the RSPCA is a private organisation, the police and 
other agencies may well be present these days. If it?s a big raid, the 
press may be there too. Books have been written about what to do in this 
type of situation. The Animal Welfare Act 2006 gives the police and 
other agencies - but not the RSPCA, which is a private charity - 
additional powers of entry.

The most important thing is not to panic. Don?t be intimidated, don?t do 
anything stupid and don?t be drawn into any conversation. All of these 
could be misunderstood and written up later in a way that might make you 
look guilty. Do not under any circumstances agree to an ?interview? at 
the scene without a specialist animal welfare lawyer present. Do not 
sign or agree to anything, do not allow the RSPCA to take any animals 
away unless it is lawfully seized by someone with the power to do this 
(e.g. a policeman).

RK:What if it?s just the RSPCA - no police, DEFRA or trading standards?

JR: A little bit of preparation helps. If you?ve got an animal, then you 
will have identified a vet already, but it is worth getting the mobile 
number of a specialist animal lawyer, or failing that the Self Help 
Group*, just in case. The RSPCA can?t enter any property by themselves 
so, when they get there, I think that the best general response is to 
ask them why they are there, listen to the response and then simply ask 
them to wait outside your property for a moment. If they do, then speak 
to your lawyers, and your vets - follow the advice you are given by 
them.

Your vet will want to speak to the RSPCA to try to find out why they are 
there. Your lawyers will probably want to speak to the RSPCA on the 
telephone. It is likely, unless there is a genuinely urgent reason for 
the ?unannounced visit?, that the lawyers will suggest that they should 
leave. Your vet will want to make sure that the reasons why the RSPCA 
say that they have attended is investigated quickly. This will protect 
you, should matters go further. Always remember that the RSPCA is a 
private organisation and, as such, has no powers at all. Its employees 
are ordinary members of the public, working for a private charity. Be 
blind to the police-style uniforms and manner.

Get on the phone to as many sensible friends of yours as you can and ask 
them to come over. If you have a video camera, then turn it on 
immediately and keep taping until the RSPCA have left. Start an 
organised event diary, taking note of names and numbers. From that point 
on, take careful notes of times and dates of visit and telephone calls. 
You must try to note what is said, especially if there is a danger of it 
not being properly taped. Photograph and video the animals concerned.

If your vet does not attend the scene immediately, you get the animals 
to your vet for a clean bill of health. The fact that you have a vet 
should prevent any animal from being seized. District Judge Browning was 
very unhappy indeed when the RSPCA seized Martin and Gina Griffin?s 
horse while their vet was present and protesting. I doubt whether that 
mistake will be made again for a bit.

RK:Is being an animal welfare lawyer as badly-paid as everyone says?

JR: The pay is appalling for the defence and it?s really tough and 
demanding work. The daily rate for appearing in court on Legal Aid is 
just A3175 a day, even in the Crown Court. Out of that we have to pay 
all our expenses - travel, hotels, books, copying, clerks and chambers. 
Only four or five specialist welfare barristers still do any defence 
work now. However, if you are still in chambers and prosecuting for the 
CPS, it?s not much better, though.

This is not the case for prosecutors. I understand from one of my 
Solicitors that in a recent case the prosecuting barrister is on A35,500 
a day. I did a case myself recently where a junior barrister was on 
A33,500 a day. That was twenty times as much as I was on.

The Australian experience shows that this may not last, however. The 
sort of money that the RSPCA in Australia pays its barristers and vets 
was exposed in Ruth Downey?s case last month. The fees there were mind-
numbing - and the expenses paid included the charter of a private plane! 
The court was, rightly, furious. MPs over there are on the case.

* http://the-shg.org/selfhelp.htm is the web site of the Self Help Group 
devoted to defending those targeted by the RSPCA and providing advice. 
They inform the public aware of their rights, and can provide names of 
solicitors who are experts in animal law, and of vets and other expert 
witnesses who are prepared to appear against the RSPCA.

Next week : one family?s fight against the RSPCA



-- 
Fenris 

RSPCA-Animadversion
http://cheetah.webtribe.net/~animadversion/

SHG
http://the-shg.org 

RSPCA Injustice Blog
http://www.rspcainjustice.blogspot.com/
date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:12:10 +0100   author:   Fenris

Re: RSPCA called to account   
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:12:10 +0100, Fenris  wrote:

>
>http://www.ourdogs.co.uk/News/2009/July2009/News310709/rspca.htm
>
>RSPCA called to account
>
>This week we report through two important articles on the work of the 
>RSPCA in recent years. Despite the commitment and good work throughout 
>the country by the local branches (which are not funded by the national 
>charity) the national charity focuses on public relations and 
>prosecutions to the extent that are several specialist lawyers in the UK 
>whose main case load is defending (usually successfully) those 
>individuals and small businesses taken to court by the RSPCA.
>
>
><snipped>
>
>Next week : one family?s fight against the RSPCA

Reminds me to increase my donation to the RSPCA so they can more
succesfully prosecute ALL cases of animal mistreatment - except abuse
to lawyers of course!

Neil
(Reply via group please)
date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:29:48 +0100   author:   Neil

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