Just had the cambelt on my diesel Transit break.
Needed new push rods (approx 170)

A friend mentioned a Cavalier he used to drive only needed a
replacement belt - the engine suffered almost no damage. He was told
it was a 'safe' engine - as far as cambelt breaks are concerned.

Is this correct?

Anyone know other engines that can survive cambelt failure with little
or no damage?  (or point me somewhere I can find out please?)

Cheers PJ

pjlusenet@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

> Just had the cambelt on my diesel Transit break.
> Needed new push rods (approx 170)
> 
> A friend mentioned a Cavalier he used to drive only needed a
> replacement belt - the engine suffered almost no damage. He was told
> it was a 'safe' engine - as far as cambelt breaks are concerned.
> 
> Is this correct?


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SOHC models - Yes.

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> Just had the cambelt on my diesel Transit break.
> Needed new push rods (approx 170)
>
> A friend mentioned a Cavalier he used to drive only needed a
> replacement belt - the engine suffered almost no damage. He was told
> it was a 'safe' engine - as far as cambelt breaks are concerned.
>
> Is this correct?
>
> Anyone know other engines that can survive cambelt failure with little
> or no damage?  (or point me somewhere I can find out please?)


when serviced as per schedules it is very rare for a belt to break or fail, 
there are very few modern designs which will survive a belt failure.  look 
in autodata for likelihood for the model you think of buying.

mrcheerful

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    wrote:

> Anyone know other engines that can survive cambelt failure with little
> or no damage?  (or point me somewhere I can find out please?)


Only old and inefficient ones.

-- 
*Always drink upstream from the herd *

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

pjlusenet@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

> Just had the cambelt on my diesel Transit break.
> Needed new push rods (approx 170)
> 
> A friend mentioned a Cavalier he used to drive only needed a
> replacement belt - the engine suffered almost no damage. He was told
> it was a 'safe' engine - as far as cambelt breaks are concerned.
> 
> Is this correct?
> 
> Anyone know other engines that can survive cambelt failure with little
> or no damage?  (or point me somewhere I can find out please?)
> 


Fiat FIRE engines (later Uno's, Panda's, early Punto's - probably some 
others too)

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> Just had the cambelt on my diesel Transit break.
> Needed new push rods (approx 170)
>
> A friend mentioned a Cavalier he used to drive only needed a
> replacement belt - the engine suffered almost no damage. He was told
> it was a 'safe' engine - as far as cambelt breaks are concerned.
>
> Is this correct?
>
> Anyone know other engines that can survive cambelt failure with little
> or no damage?  (or point me somewhere I can find out please?)


http://autorepair.about.com/cs/doityourself/a/aa051102a.htm has a link on it
to show "Interference" and "Non interference" engines. It's American based
though but may give you some more info.

Steven.

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:09:18 GMT, "mrcheerful
.."  wrote:


>
> wrote in message 
>news:3o0gb1hustel0jvbjebo3l6e3no1eg6f2r@4ax.com...
>> Just had the cambelt on my diesel Transit break.
>> Needed new push rods (approx 170)
>>
>> A friend mentioned a Cavalier he used to drive only needed a
>> replacement belt - the engine suffered almost no damage. He was told
>> it was a 'safe' engine - as far as cambelt breaks are concerned.
>>
>> Is this correct?
>>
>> Anyone know other engines that can survive cambelt failure with little
>> or no damage?  (or point me somewhere I can find out please?)
>
>when serviced as per schedules it is very rare for a belt to break or fail, 
>there are very few modern designs which will survive a belt failure.  look 
>in autodata for likelihood for the model you think of buying.


If it's a Ford Mondeo Diesel the correct service schedule is not in
the owners book and probably not the Haynes manual.  It's on the
update to a technical service bulletin that they keep locked in the
service centers managers desk.  When your belt breaks at 37K miles
they produce it and say "Don't you know?  It's not 60K miles like it
says in the owners manual you got with the car, it's been changed and
this says it was reduced first to 48K but now it's 36K miles".  "Your
mistake not having it changed at the right time, that will be 800
please".

pjlusenet@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

> Just had the cambelt on my diesel Transit break.
> Needed new push rods (approx 170)
>
> A friend mentioned a Cavalier he used to drive only needed a
> replacement belt - the engine suffered almost no damage. He was told
> it was a 'safe' engine - as far as cambelt breaks are concerned.
>
> Is this correct?
>
> Anyone know other engines that can survive cambelt failure with little
> or no damage?  (or point me somewhere I can find out please?)
>
> Cheers PJ


Why? what difference does it make now? are you going to be buying one that 
doesn't suffer damage?

-- 
ThePunisher
Latitude:   54.67N
Longitude:  5.96W

> Anyone know other engines that can survive cambelt failure with little
> or no damage?  (or point me somewhere I can find out please?)


Ford 2.0 pinto engines and I think the later 1.6 pintos too.

Darren

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> In article 

> *Always drink upstream from the herd *


Pointless, since there will always be another herd further upstream, besides 
yak piss makes it tangy.

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> Just had the cambelt on my diesel Transit break.
> Needed new push rods (approx 170)
>
> A friend mentioned a Cavalier he used to drive only needed a
> replacement belt - the engine suffered almost no damage. He was told
> it was a 'safe' engine - as far as cambelt breaks are concerned.


My old Mark II astra was like this.  Had it snap at 54,000 while it was 
still a company car serviced at a vauxhall dealer.  Changed it every 20,000 
afterwards when it beloned to me as it was so easy to do on that SV engine 
(12 a time).  Never caused any damage though at all if it broke.

John

Most, if not all modern engines will suffer damage due to their design, in 
that the piston to valve clearance is a very close tollerence so as to make 
is as fuel efficient as possible for emissions reasons etc..

Is the transit the 2.5di??
I have done cambelt failure work on these before & it only seems to bend the 
pushrods & not the valves which is a good thing really as it is a less 
expensive job for the vehicle owner.
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> Just had the cambelt on my diesel Transit break.
> Needed new push rods (approx 170)
>
> A friend mentioned a Cavalier he used to drive only needed a
> replacement belt - the engine suffered almost no damage. He was told
> it was a 'safe' engine - as far as cambelt breaks are concerned.
>
> Is this correct?
>
> Anyone know other engines that can survive cambelt failure with little
> or no damage?  (or point me somewhere I can find out please?)
>
> Cheers PJ
>
> 

>Most, if not all modern engines will suffer damage due to their design, in 
>that the piston to valve clearance is a very close tollerence so as to make 
>is as fuel efficient as possible for emissions reasons etc..
>
>Is the transit the 2.5di??
>I have done cambelt failure work on these before & it only seems to bend the 
>pushrods & not the valves which is a good thing really as it is a less 
>expensive job for the vehicle owner.


Yes it is. It's done 150K (of which I've done the last 12K or so).

It seems a bit noisier know than it used to.
Although this may just be my imagination.

Thanks all for the info.