Hi all,

My 1.3 Ford Fiesta 'M'-reg has had a long-standing problem with
stalling, particularly at junctions.

Some days it's fine, some days it's terrible.  Warm weather isn't as
bad as cold weather but there's not that much in it.

After a service it is fine for a week or so then it slowly returns to
it's old ways so I guess something done during the service fixes it
temporarily.

I'm not good with cars so if it's anything that requires knowledge
beyond the level of 'duffer' I'm gonna need to see a garage.

Anybody got any ideas?  Thanks for any suggestions...

root@127.0.0.1 wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> My 1.3 Ford Fiesta 'M'-reg has had a long-standing problem with
> stalling, particularly at junctions.
>
> Some days it's fine, some days it's terrible.  Warm weather isn't as
> bad as cold weather but there's not that much in it.
>
> After a service it is fine for a week or so then it slowly returns to
> it's old ways so I guess something done during the service fixes it
> temporarily.
>
> I'm not good with cars so if it's anything that requires knowledge
> beyond the level of 'duffer' I'm gonna need to see a garage.
>
> Anybody got any ideas?  Thanks for any suggestions...


I think I need to offer my terminal cleaning advice again!

It'll be the cure for something one day :o)

Ok, under the air filter you will find 2 or 3 terminal plugs which go all 
manky and 'orrible inside. Seperate the two halves of each plug and clean 
both sides with WD40 or something similar, and kitchen paper/cotton buds 
etc. Put the plugs back together and marvel at the non-stallingness of your 
Fester.

Si

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:04:18 +0100, "Mungo \"two sheds\" Toadfoot"
 wrote:


>Ok, under the air filter you will find 2 or 3 terminal plugs which go all 
>manky and 'orrible inside. Seperate the two halves of each plug and clean 
>both sides with WD40 or something similar, and kitchen paper/cotton buds 
>etc. Put the plugs back together and marvel at the non-stallingness of your 
>Fester.


Sounds great.  However, I have no idea what a terminal plug looks
like.  What do they look like exactly?

Sorry I'm so clueless... :)

root@127.0.0.1 wrote:

> On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:04:18 +0100, "Mungo \"two sheds\" Toadfoot"
>  wrote:
>
>> Ok, under the air filter you will find 2 or 3 terminal plugs which
>> go all manky and 'orrible inside. Seperate the two halves of each
>> plug and clean both sides with WD40 or something similar, and
>> kitchen paper/cotton buds etc. Put the plugs back together and
>> marvel at the non-stallingness of your Fester.
>
> Sounds great.  However, I have no idea what a terminal plug looks
> like.  What do they look like exactly?
>
> Sorry I'm so clueless... :)


It's a plastic connector which joins a bunch of wires to another bunch of 
wires. They're quite easy to find and will be clipped to something under the 
air filter.

Si

root@127.0.0.1 wrote:


> After a service it is fine for a week or so then it slowly returns to
> it's old ways so I guess something done during the service fixes it
> temporarily.
>


My neighbour's Fiesta was ok-ish after a "service" - the garage she took it 
to opened up the plug gaps enormously (??) to try to compensate for the air 
temp. sensor not working properly because its connector pins were manky.

If cleaning the connectors works it might be worth checking the plug gaps 
too.

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> On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:04:18 +0100, "Mungo \"two sheds\" Toadfoot"
>  wrote:
>
> >Ok, under the air filter you will find 2 or 3 terminal plugs which go all
> >manky and 'orrible inside. Seperate the two halves of each plug and clean
> >both sides with WD40 or something similar, and kitchen paper/cotton buds
> >etc. Put the plugs back together and marvel at the non-stallingness of
your
> >Fester.
>
> Sounds great.  However, I have no idea what a terminal plug looks
> like.  What do they look like exactly?
>
> Sorry I'm so clueless... :)


Its the only electrical connection on the underside of the aircleaner.

This is the 80% cause of stalling on the frankly dreadful Ford CFi system, -
there are afew other causes, and general poor setting up of this system
which causes the remainder.

Tim..

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> On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:04:18 +0100, "Mungo \"two sheds\" Toadfoot"
>  wrote:
>
> >Ok, under the air filter you will find 2 or 3 terminal plugs which go all
> >manky and 'orrible inside. Seperate the two halves of each plug and clean
> >both sides with WD40 or something similar, and kitchen paper/cotton buds
> >etc. Put the plugs back together and marvel at the non-stallingness of
your
> >Fester.
>
> Sounds great.  However, I have no idea what a terminal plug looks
> like.  What do they look like exactly?
>
> Sorry I'm so clueless... :)


I also forgot- whilst you have the aircleaner apart checking the plug, also
look at the 'business' end of the air temp sensor in the aircleaner. If it
looks broken, or melted you'll need a new one. These cars often spit back /
back fire into the aircleaner and the air temp sensor is the first thing to
get melted.

Tim..

"Mungo "two sheds" Toadfoot"  wrote in message
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> root@127.0.0.1 wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > My 1.3 Ford Fiesta 'M'-reg has had a long-standing problem with
> > stalling, particularly at junctions.
> >
> > Some days it's fine, some days it's terrible.  Warm weather isn't as
> > bad as cold weather but there's not that much in it.
> >
> > After a service it is fine for a week or so then it slowly returns to
> > it's old ways so I guess something done during the service fixes it
> > temporarily.
> >
> > I'm not good with cars so if it's anything that requires knowledge
> > beyond the level of 'duffer' I'm gonna need to see a garage.
> >
> > Anybody got any ideas?  Thanks for any suggestions...
>
> I think I need to offer my terminal cleaning advice again!
>
> It'll be the cure for something one day :o)
>
> Ok, under the air filter you will find 2 or 3 terminal plugs which go all
> manky and 'orrible inside. Seperate the two halves of each plug and clean
> both sides with WD40 or something similar, and kitchen paper/cotton buds
> etc. Put the plugs back together and marvel at the non-stallingness of
your
> Fester.
>
> Si
>

Hi ,
You told me about this a few weeks ago as a cure for my wife's fiesta 1.3cfi
poor running problems, and although when I looked at the connectors, they
looked fine, I cleaned them anyway and it seemed to fix the problems, so
definitely worth trying.
Thanks
Tony

Tony Benham wrote:

>>
> Hi ,
> You told me about this a few weeks ago as a cure for my wife's fiesta
> 1.3cfi poor running problems, and although when I looked at the
> connectors, they looked fine, I cleaned them anyway and it seemed to
> fix the problems, so definitely worth trying.
> Thanks
> Tony


Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!

*Ahem*

Glad it worked :)

Si

"Mungo "two sheds" Toadfoot"  wrote in message 
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> Tony Benham wrote:
>>>
>> Hi ,
>> You told me about this a few weeks ago as a cure for my wife's fiesta
>> 1.3cfi poor running problems, and although when I looked at the
>> connectors, they looked fine, I cleaned them anyway and it seemed to
>> fix the problems, so definitely worth trying.
>> Thanks
>> Tony
>
> Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!
>
> *Ahem*
>
> Glad it worked :)
>


As obviously you knew it would from long experience. Wasn't just guesswork, 
oh no... ;-)

PC Paul wrote:

>
> As obviously you knew it would from long experience. Wasn't just
> guesswork, oh no... ;-)


I never guess. Hardly ever. Only on the very few occasions logic doesn't 
work.

Ok, I'm constantly guessing and I'm amazed when something works, happy now? 
;)

Si