Saw a glimpse of a worrying TV advertisement from DVLA that my car would
be illegal if I didn't get a new log book by 1'st July 2005. This is the
first and only notification I've had about this requirement. 

I find it astonishing that DVLA rely on this method of communication for
such an important issue. What happens if you don't have a TV? If you have
a TV but don't see that particular advertisement? If you generally don't
pay attention to TV advertisements?

> Saw a glimpse of a worrying TV advertisement from DVLA that my car would
> be illegal if I didn't get a new log book by 1'st July 2005. This is the
> first and only notification I've had about this requirement.
>
> I find it astonishing that DVLA rely on this method of communication for
> such an important issue. What happens if you don't have a TV? If you have
> a TV but don't see that particular advertisement? If you generally don't
> pay attention to TV advertisements?


I saw that and I have no recollection what-so-ever of being told about it. 
Its a typical Labour Government poly - making everybody else guilty of doing 
something / non doing something, when you know nothing about.

>> Saw a glimpse of a worrying TV advertisement from DVLA that my car would
>> be illegal if I didn't get a new log book by 1'st July 2005. This is the
>> first and only notification I've had about this requirement.
>>
>> I find it astonishing that DVLA rely on this method of communication for
>> such an important issue. What happens if you don't have a TV? If you have
>> a TV but don't see that particular advertisement? If you generally don't
>> pay attention to TV advertisements?
>
> I saw that and I have no recollection what-so-ever of being told about it. 
> Its a typical Labour Government poly - making everybody else guilty of 
> doing something / non doing something, when you know nothing about.


And apologies for my poor English/grammar - hangover!

"Layezee"  wrote in message
news:tCQse.35395$8m5.2589@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net...

> >> Saw a glimpse of a worrying TV advertisement from DVLA that my car
would
> >> be illegal if I didn't get a new log book by 1'st July 2005. This is
the
> >> first and only notification I've had about this requirement.
> >>
> >> I find it astonishing that DVLA rely on this method of communication
for
> >> such an important issue. What happens if you don't have a TV? If you
have
> >> a TV but don't see that particular advertisement? If you generally
don't
> >> pay attention to TV advertisements?
> >
> > I saw that and I have no recollection what-so-ever of being told about
it.
> > Its a typical Labour Government poly - making everybody else guilty of
> > doing something / non doing something, when you know nothing about.
>
> And apologies for my poor English/grammar - hangover!
>
>

See link, you probably have this one already.
http://www.dvla.gov.uk/newrules/hrc_new.htm

Johannes (johs@spamblock100023sizefitter.com) gurgled happily, sounding 
much like they were saying :


> Saw a glimpse of a worrying TV advertisement from DVLA that my car would
> be illegal if I didn't get a new log book by 1'st July 2005. This is the
> first and only notification I've had about this requirement. 


It's sent out automatically about a week or two after you tax or SORN your 
car - and has been for about 13/14 months - so everybody should have one by 
now, except for cars that haven't been taxed for about five years since 
SORN came in.

Adrian wrote:

> 
> Johannes (johs@spamblock100023sizefitter.com) gurgled happily, sounding
> much like they were saying :
> 
> > Saw a glimpse of a worrying TV advertisement from DVLA that my car would
> > be illegal if I didn't get a new log book by 1'st July 2005. This is the
> > first and only notification I've had about this requirement.
> 
> It's sent out automatically about a week or two after you tax or SORN your
> car - and has been for about 13/14 months - so everybody should have one by
> now, except for cars that haven't been taxed for about five years since
> SORN came in.


Presumably, it's only sent out if if you pay road tax by post to DVLA?

"Johannes"  wrote in message
news:42B3F412.2D963BD9@spamblock100023sizefitter.com...

>
>
> Adrian wrote:
> >
> > Johannes (johs@spamblock100023sizefitter.com) gurgled happily, sounding
> > much like they were saying :
> >
> > > Saw a glimpse of a worrying TV advertisement from DVLA that my car
would
> > > be illegal if I didn't get a new log book by 1'st July 2005. This is
the
> > > first and only notification I've had about this requirement.
> >
> > It's sent out automatically about a week or two after you tax or SORN
your
> > car - and has been for about 13/14 months - so everybody should have one
by
> > now, except for cars that haven't been taxed for about five years since
> > SORN came in.
>
> Presumably, it's only sent out if if you pay road tax by post to DVLA?


No. I pay mine at the post office and I've had a new V5C form.

David.

Johannes (johs@spamblock100023sizefitter.com) gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying : 


>> > Saw a glimpse of a worrying TV advertisement from DVLA that my car
>> > would be illegal if I didn't get a new log book by 1'st July 2005.

>> It's sent out automatically about a week or two after you tax or SORN
>> your car - and has been for about 13/14 months - so everybody should
>> have one by now, except for cars that haven't been taxed for about
>> five years since SORN came in.

> Presumably, it's only sent out if if you pay road tax by post to DVLA?


No. I've had V5Cs for all of my fleet within a week or two of SORNing or 
Taxing them at the local PO.

"David Linley"  wrote in message
news:d90ure$c7m$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...

>
> "Johannes"  wrote in message
> news:42B3F412.2D963BD9@spamblock100023sizefitter.com...
> >
> >
> > Adrian wrote:
> > >
> > > Johannes (johs@spamblock100023sizefitter.com) gurgled happily,
sounding
> > > much like they were saying :
> > >
> > > > Saw a glimpse of a worrying TV advertisement from DVLA that my car
> would
> > > > be illegal if I didn't get a new log book by 1'st July 2005. This is
> the
> > > > first and only notification I've had about this requirement.
> > >
> > > It's sent out automatically about a week or two after you tax or SORN
> your
> > > car - and has been for about 13/14 months - so everybody should have
one
> by
> > > now, except for cars that haven't been taxed for about five years
since
> > > SORN came in.
> >
> > Presumably, it's only sent out if if you pay road tax by post to DVLA?
>
> No. I pay mine at the post office and I've had a new V5C form.
>
> David.
>


i get my tax disc from the local office for disiablity, never knew that,
dont have a tv

>

>> Presumably, it's only sent out if if you pay road tax by post to DVLA?
>
> No. I pay mine at the post office and I've had a new V5C form.
>


I paid my car tax in April and *didn't* get one.

Layezee (noemail@thisaddress.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they 
were saying :


> I paid my car tax in April and *didn't* get one. 


I suspect it's a post office cockup rather than a DVLA one.

When it comes to incompetence, though, that one's a real "Battle of the 
Giants". Add Barclays, and you're into real World Class stuff...

I haven't had one for my estate
I wonder if I would be able to get one, seeing as it's been off the road for 
the past 18 months or so ????

"Johannes"  wrote in message 
news:42B38F6D.94B0D5CD@spamblock100023sizefitter.com...

> Saw a glimpse of a worrying TV advertisement from DVLA that my car would
> be illegal if I didn't get a new log book by 1'st July 2005. This is the
> first and only notification I've had about this requirement.
>
> I find it astonishing that DVLA rely on this method of communication for
> such an important issue. What happens if you don't have a TV? If you have
> a TV but don't see that particular advertisement? If you generally don't
> pay attention to TV advertisements? 

Adrian wrote:

> 
> 
> No. I've had V5Cs for all of my fleet 




What is your fleet?

T. (nntp-DOT-dump@zen.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were 
saying :


>> No. I've had V5Cs for all of my fleet 

> What is your fleet?


<points upwards at my email address>

Adrian wrote:

> T. (nntp-DOT-dump@zen.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were 
> saying :
> 
> 
>>>No. I've had V5Cs for all of my fleet 
> 
> 
>>What is your fleet?
> 
> 
> <points upwards at my email address>


Oh dear. Doesn't that get boring?

T. (nntp-DOT-dump@zen.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying : 


>>>>No. I've had V5Cs for all of my fleet 

>>>What is your fleet?

>> <points upwards at my email address>

> Oh dear. Doesn't that get boring?


Nah, not really.

They're all very different - vans, saloons, jeeps, 2-pot, 4-pot, 4x4.

Some even work.

Adrian wrote:

> 
> 
>>Oh dear. Doesn't that get boring?
> 
> 
> Nah, not really.
> 
> They're all very different - vans, saloons, jeeps, 2-pot, 4-pot, 4x4.
> 
> Some even work.


The new Citroen C6 sounds/looks good on paper. I'd worry with all those 
electronics though.

T. (nntp-DOT-dump@zen.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were 
saying :


> The new Citroen C6 sounds/looks good on paper.


Indeed. Can't wait to see it in the flesh. CitUK are, erm, "realistic" 
about likely sales...


> I'd worry with all those electronics though.


Why? It'll be the same multiplexing as on the rest of the PSA range - 
slightly different software for slightly different functionality, but it's 
pretty much reliable (now...)

The message 
from Adrian  contains these words:


> Why? It'll be the same multiplexing as on the rest of the PSA range - 
> slightly different software for slightly different functionality, but it's 
> pretty much reliable (now...)


"Pretty much reliable" really ain't good enough, is it? The curse of
modern cars is the electrics, whether traditional or mux.

As Flanders and Swann said forty years ago "These new car tests car ten
years, then six and now five, perhaps even three. Soon they might start
testing them before they leave the factory".

-- 
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."

Guy King (guy.king@zetnet.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying : 


>> Why? It'll be the same multiplexing as on the rest of the PSA range -
>> slightly different software for slightly different functionality, but
>> it's pretty much reliable (now...)

> "Pretty much reliable" really ain't good enough, is it?


You may think that, I may think that, the car makers would beg to differ.


> The curse of modern cars is the electrics, whether traditional or mux.


Not a unique PSA thing, at all.

The message 
from Adrian  contains these words:


> > The curse of modern cars is the electrics, whether traditional or mux.

> Not a unique PSA thing, at all.


Quite. Shame really - cars are getting too bloody clever for their own good.

-- 
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."

i have just seen the advert about the new log book and do not understand if 
i need to send my existing log book or not.Please advise me.


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shaun owen (shaun@wanadoonospam.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying : 


> i have just seen the advert about the new log book and do not
> understand if i need to send my existing log book or not.Please advise
> me. 


No, you don't.