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City Rover safety warning   
Wheel Trims and Possible Tyre Damage
Vehicle and Operator Services Agency (VOSA) has been informed by the
Administrators of the MG Rover Group Limited that some City Rover models
fitted with steel wheels were supplied with a wheel trim/embellisher that
can, under certain operating conditions, rub on the tyre sidewall resulting
in consequential damage to the tyre outer casing.

As MG Rover are no longer able to deal with this matter, VOSA, on behalf of
the Secretary of State for Transport, is informing all registered keepers of
the potential safety risk.

Registered keepers are being advised to arrange to have their vehicle tyres
inspected for damage, and for any necessary remedial action to be taken as
soon as possible.

VOSA is not able to advise on the action that will be needed in relation to
the vehicle and keepers should seek and rely on their own advice. MG Rover
have indicated that, in their view, removal of the wheel trims is all that
is necessary to address any potential problem.
Date:Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:36:02 +0100   Author:  

Re: City Rover safety warning   
"reg"  wrote in message
news:d8sns1$91n$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...

> Wheel Trims and Possible Tyre Damage
> Vehicle and Operator Services Agency (VOSA) has been informed by the
> Administrators of the MG Rover Group Limited that some City Rover models
> fitted with steel wheels were supplied with a wheel trim/embellisher that
> can, under certain operating conditions, rub on the tyre sidewall
resulting
> in consequential damage to the tyre outer casing.
>
> As MG Rover are no longer able to deal with this matter, VOSA, on behalf
of
> the Secretary of State for Transport, is informing all registered keepers
of
> the potential safety risk.
>
> Registered keepers are being advised to arrange to have their vehicle
tyres
> inspected for damage, and for any necessary remedial action to be taken as
> soon as possible.
>
> VOSA is not able to advise on the action that will be needed in relation
to
> the vehicle and keepers should seek and rely on their own advice. MG Rover
> have indicated that, in their view, removal of the wheel trims is all that
> is necessary to address any potential problem.
>
>

Since the trim rotates at the same speed as the wheel, how is it going to
rub and cause any damage?
Date:Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:40:06 +0100   Author:  

Re: City Rover safety warning   
"shazzbat"  wrote in message 
news:d8uugl$s69$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...

>
> "reg"  wrote in message
> news:d8sns1$91n$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> Wheel Trims and Possible Tyre Damage
>> Vehicle and Operator Services Agency (VOSA) has been informed by the
>> Administrators of the MG Rover Group Limited that some City Rover models
>> fitted with steel wheels were supplied with a wheel trim/embellisher that
>> can, under certain operating conditions, rub on the tyre sidewall
> resulting
>> in consequential damage to the tyre outer casing.
>>
>> As MG Rover are no longer able to deal with this matter, VOSA, on behalf
> of
>> the Secretary of State for Transport, is informing all registered keepers
> of
>> the potential safety risk.
>>
>> Registered keepers are being advised to arrange to have their vehicle
> tyres
>> inspected for damage, and for any necessary remedial action to be taken 
>> as
>> soon as possible.
>>
>> VOSA is not able to advise on the action that will be needed in relation
> to
>> the vehicle and keepers should seek and rely on their own advice. MG 
>> Rover
>> have indicated that, in their view, removal of the wheel trims is all 
>> that
>> is necessary to address any potential problem.
>>
>>
> Since the trim rotates at the same speed as the wheel, how is it going to
> rub and cause any damage?


Tyre walls flex and if the trim overlaps the actual wheel rim, and is in 
close proximity to the tyre rubber, then it is possible that during 
cornering the rubber could be brought into contact with the trim.

Kev
Date:Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:46:43 +0100   Author:  

Re: City Rover safety warning   
shazzbat (shazzbat@spamlessness.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying : 


> Since the trim rotates at the same speed as the wheel, how is it going
> to rub and cause any damage?


Think about the shape of a tyre with the weight of a car on it.
Date:17 Jun 2005 16:46:47 GMT   Author:  

Re: City Rover safety warning   
"Uno Hoo!"  wrote in message
news:d8uupf$2s1$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...

>
> "shazzbat"  wrote in message
> news:d8uugl$s69$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> >
> > "reg"  wrote in message
> > news:d8sns1$91n$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> >> Wheel Trims and Possible Tyre Damage
> >> Vehicle and Operator Services Agency (VOSA) has been informed by the
> >> Administrators of the MG Rover Group Limited that some City Rover
models
> >> fitted with steel wheels were supplied with a wheel trim/embellisher
that
> >> can, under certain operating conditions, rub on the tyre sidewall
> > resulting
> >> in consequential damage to the tyre outer casing.
> >>
> >> As MG Rover are no longer able to deal with this matter, VOSA, on
behalf
> > of
> >> the Secretary of State for Transport, is informing all registered
keepers
> > of
> >> the potential safety risk.
> >>
> >> Registered keepers are being advised to arrange to have their vehicle
> > tyres
> >> inspected for damage, and for any necessary remedial action to be taken
> >> as
> >> soon as possible.
> >>
> >> VOSA is not able to advise on the action that will be needed in
relation
> > to
> >> the vehicle and keepers should seek and rely on their own advice. MG
> >> Rover
> >> have indicated that, in their view, removal of the wheel trims is all
> >> that
> >> is necessary to address any potential problem.
> >>
> >>
> > Since the trim rotates at the same speed as the wheel, how is it going
to
> > rub and cause any damage?
>
> Tyre walls flex and if the trim overlaps the actual wheel rim, and is in
> close proximity to the tyre rubber, then it is possible that during
> cornering the rubber could be brought into contact with the trim.
>


But still no friction between the two. A big pinch of salt called for
methinks.
Date:Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:22:22 +0100   Author:  

Re: City Rover safety warning   
The message <d8uugl$s69$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>
from "shazzbat"  contains these words:


> Since the trim rotates at the same speed as the wheel, how is it going to
> rub and cause any damage?


If it protrudes past the rim and the tyre flexes sufficiently it could
wear eventually.

-- 
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
Date:Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:59:00 +0100   Author:  

Re: City Rover safety warning   
"Guy King"  wrote in message 
news:313030303432373942B32B8494@zetnet.co.uk...

> The message <d8uugl$s69$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>
> from "shazzbat"  contains these words:
>
>> Since the trim rotates at the same speed as the wheel, how is it going to
>> rub and cause any damage?
>
> If it protrudes past the rim and the tyre flexes sufficiently it could
> wear eventually.
>
> -- 
> Skipweasel.
> Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."


I have seen other cars with cheapo wheel trims damaging the tyre, causes a 
strange hard to find noise as well.  Would also be worse with low tyre 
pressures of course.

mrcheerful
Date:Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:51:23 GMT   Author:  

Re: City Rover safety warning   
In article ,
   Guy King  wrote:

> > Since the trim rotates at the same speed as the wheel, how is it going
> > to rub and cause any damage?

> If it protrudes past the rim and the tyre flexes sufficiently it could
> wear eventually.


Once the police got their hands on the Rover P6 3500, they managed to make
the wheel trims rotate such as to chop off the tyre valves. Allegedly.

-- 
*Failure is not an option. It's bundled with your software.  

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.
Date:Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:34:43 +0100   Author:  

Re: City Rover safety warning   
"Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote in message
news:4d7ca4ab3adave@davenoise.co.uk...

> In article ,
>    Guy King  wrote:
> > > Since the trim rotates at the same speed as the wheel, how is it going
> > > to rub and cause any damage?
>
> > If it protrudes past the rim and the tyre flexes sufficiently it could
> > wear eventually.
>
> Once the police got their hands on the Rover P6 3500, they managed to make
> the wheel trims rotate such as to chop off the tyre valves. Allegedly.
>


Even more salt called for methinks. More likely they just fitted them
incorrectly and fouled the valves.

Steve
Date:Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:58:37 +0100   Author:  

Re: City Rover safety warning   
The message 
from "Dave Plowman (News)"  contains these words:


> Once the police got their hands on the Rover P6 3500, they managed to make
> the wheel trims rotate such as to chop off the tyre valves. Allegedly.


I had a cheap set of trims on an LDV 200 do that once.

-- 
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
Date:Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:09:24 +0100   Author:  

Re: City Rover safety warning   
"Guy King"  wrote in message
news:313030303432373942B3E4C489@zetnet.co.uk...

> The message 
> from "Dave Plowman (News)"  contains these words:
>
> > Once the police got their hands on the Rover P6 3500, they managed to
make
> > the wheel trims rotate such as to chop off the tyre valves. Allegedly.
>
> I had a cheap set of trims on an LDV 200 do that once.
>
> --

Damage to a valve is quite easily done when the trim is steel and the valve
has to go through a hole in it.

The business with the city rover is a different matter entirely.
The crucial phrase is this-

"wheel trim/embellisher that
can, under certain operating conditions, rub on the tyre sidewall"


I think their statement translates into something like this-

We've had someone who has blagged a new tyre off us, claiming that it was
damaged by the wheel trim. When we tried to replicate this damage, we could
do so only if these conditions were met. - The wheel trim was first damaged
by kerb rash, *and* the car was full of 5 fat bastards and their luggage
*and* the tyre was under-inflated *and* the car was being thrown round the
test track at max speed by our top test driver, Barmy Barry.

But it was cheaper to buy the twat a new tyre than to defend the action. And
now we're putting up an umbrella before the word gets out and every arsehole
with a knackered tyre is banging on our door for compo.

Steve
Date:Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:31:49 +0100   Author:  

Re: City Rover safety warning   
shazzbat wrote:



> But it was cheaper to buy the twat a new tyre than to defend the
> action. And now we're putting up an umbrella before the word gets out
> and every arsehole with a knackered tyre is banging on our door for
> compo.


Hello - Is that claims direct? Yes, I'd like to sue MG-Rover...


.... why are you laughing?


-- 
"Excuse me, would you mind not farting while I'm saving the world?"

              "Would you rather silent but deadly?"
Date:Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:00:17 +0100   Author: