Hi all

I am the unfortunate owner of a M reg Espace 2.2 petrol with an auto box.

The original gear box failed at 67,000 miles ( not impressed )
and was replaced with an Renault rebuild ( cost a grand plus the fitting ). 
We now have 100,000 miles on the clock,
the warning light on the auto box some times comes on after 2 miles, ( 
almost always at the same place on the way home ) and the gear box drops 
into third and stays there. ( even less impressed, do not buy a Renault ! )

Stop and restart, light goes out but not always, this is starting to happen 
more often, any advise welcome.

thanks peter

"peter"  wrote in message
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> Hi all
>
> I am the unfortunate owner of a M reg Espace 2.2 petrol with an auto box.
>
> The original gear box failed at 67,000 miles ( not impressed )
> and was replaced with an Renault rebuild ( cost a grand plus the
fitting ).
> We now have 100,000 miles on the clock,
> the warning light on the auto box some times comes on after 2 miles, (
> almost always at the same place on the way home ) and the gear box drops
> into third and stays there. ( even less impressed, do not buy a Renault
! )
>
> Stop and restart, light goes out but not always, this is starting to
happen
> more often, any advise welcome.
>


Lesson 1- Renault autos are an absolute nightmare. Period.

Lesson 2- Give King Automatics ('The Chalk Pit', College Road, Epsom, Surrey
KT17 4JA, tel: 01372 728769) a ring. If he cant fix it, there isnt a cure.

Tim..

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> "peter"  wrote in message
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> > Hi all
> >
> > I am the unfortunate owner of a M reg Espace 2.2 petrol with an auto
box.
> >
> > The original gear box failed at 67,000 miles ( not impressed )
> > and was replaced with an Renault rebuild ( cost a grand plus the
> fitting ).
> > We now have 100,000 miles on the clock,
> > the warning light on the auto box some times comes on after 2 miles, (
> > almost always at the same place on the way home ) and the gear box drops
> > into third and stays there. ( even less impressed, do not buy a Renault
> ! )
> >
> > Stop and restart, light goes out but not always, this is starting to
> happen
> > more often, any advise welcome.
> >
>
> Lesson 1- Renault autos are an absolute nightmare. Period.
>
> Lesson 2- Give King Automatics ('The Chalk Pit', College Road, Epsom,
Surrey
> KT17 4JA, tel: 01372 728769) a ring. If he cant fix it, there isnt a cure.
>
> Tim..
>


Lesson 3. learn Lesson 4 off by heart, I shall never never buy a Renault !
especially an automatic !!!

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> "Tim.."  wrote in message
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> >
> > "peter"  wrote in message
> > news:Z5-dnWeaDIpAHy3fRVnyhQ@fireflyuk.net...
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > I am the unfortunate owner of a M reg Espace 2.2 petrol with an auto
> box.
> > >
> > > The original gear box failed at 67,000 miles ( not impressed )
> > > and was replaced with an Renault rebuild ( cost a grand plus the
> > fitting ).
> > > We now have 100,000 miles on the clock,
> > > the warning light on the auto box some times comes on after 2 miles, (
> > > almost always at the same place on the way home ) and the gear box
drops
> > > into third and stays there. ( even less impressed, do not buy a
Renault
> > ! )
> > >
> > > Stop and restart, light goes out but not always, this is starting to
> > happen
> > > more often, any advise welcome.
> > >
> >
> > Lesson 1- Renault autos are an absolute nightmare. Period.
> >
> > Lesson 2- Give King Automatics ('The Chalk Pit', College Road, Epsom,
> Surrey
> > KT17 4JA, tel: 01372 728769) a ring. If he cant fix it, there isnt a
cure.
> >
> > Tim..
> >
>
> Lesson 3. learn Lesson 4 off by heart, I shall never never buy a Renault !
> especially an automatic !!!
>
>

See! I said Renaults are shite ............ QED

"peter"  wrote in message
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> Hi all
>
> I am the unfortunate owner of a M reg Espace 2.2 petrol with an auto box.
>
> The original gear box failed at 67,000 miles ( not impressed )
> and was replaced with an Renault rebuild ( cost a grand plus the
fitting ).
> We now have 100,000 miles on the clock,
> the warning light on the auto box some times comes on after 2 miles, (
> almost always at the same place on the way home ) and the gear box drops
> into third and stays there. ( even less impressed, do not buy a Renault
! )
>
> Stop and restart, light goes out but not always, this is starting to
happen
> more often, any advise welcome.
>
> thanks peter
>


IMO nothing wrong with Renaults - we've had several in the family with no
problems. In-laws still have a Safrane at 140,000 ish and a 19 dT at 155,000
both have only ever had routine maintenance.

Renault automatics gearboxes do indeed have a terrible reputation though.
Someone once told me to avoid any auto Clio with more than 40,000 miles.

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> "peter"  wrote in message
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>> Hi all
>>
>> I am the unfortunate owner of a M reg Espace 2.2 petrol with an auto box.
>>
>> The original gear box failed at 67,000 miles ( not impressed )
>> and was replaced with an Renault rebuild ( cost a grand plus the
> fitting ).
>> We now have 100,000 miles on the clock,
>> the warning light on the auto box some times comes on after 2 miles, (
>> almost always at the same place on the way home ) and the gear box drops
>> into third and stays there. ( even less impressed, do not buy a Renault
> ! )
>>
>> Stop and restart, light goes out but not always, this is starting to
> happen
>> more often, any advise welcome.
>>
>> thanks peter
>>
> IMO nothing wrong with Renaults - we've had several in the family with no
> problems. In-laws still have a Safrane at 140,000 ish and a 19 dT at 
> 155,000
> both have only ever had routine maintenance.


They're expensive to fix when they go wrong... the Lagunas on our fleet did 
lead a hard life, but no harder than the Mondeos, and were _significantly_ 
more expensive to repair.

I recall having the injectors reconditioned on the RN 2.2, and that made my 
eyes water, even though it was company money.


> Renault automatics gearboxes do indeed have a terrible reputation though.
> Someone once told me to avoid any auto Clio with more than 40,000 miles.


Clio automobile? :)

-- 
The DervMan
www.dervman.com

Hi all

thanks for advice and comments so far

The box has apparently a hydraulic failure, which might be fixed by freeing 
off/ replacing the ball valves, this can be done by droping the sump off the 
gearbox

If it works i will let you know

thanks again peter

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   peter  wrote:

> We now have 100,000 miles on the clock,
> the warning light on the auto box some times comes on after 2 miles, ( 
> almost always at the same place on the way home ) and the gear box drops 
> into third and stays there. ( even less impressed, do not buy a Renault


It's going into limp home mode, so likely an electrical issue if it
corrects itself. Diagnostics might help, but my initial reaction would be
to clean and re-grease all the connectors, given it's been replaced and
they probably didn't bother.

Although I think Renault gearbox ECUs are also a bit suspect. Still, check
the cheap things first.

-- 
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    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
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