I have been wondering if using a night vision monocular would be of 
assistance while shooting rabbits and foxes at night, as a suplement to the 
rifle mounted lamp I currently use. Some of the gen 1 units seem to be 
reasonably priced nowadays.
Does anyone have any experience with these units? Would they be usefull for 
spotting rabbits at 70 or 80 metres on a pitch black night?
I was thinking I could spot the quarry and then switch the lamp on to get a 
proper aim without spooking them.
TIA

Sean

Sean wrote:

> I have been wondering if using a night vision monocular would be of 
> assistance while shooting rabbits and foxes at night, as a suplement to the 
> rifle mounted lamp I currently use. Some of the gen 1 units seem to be 
> reasonably priced nowadays.
> Does anyone have any experience with these units? Would they be usefull for 
> spotting rabbits at 70 or 80 metres on a pitch black night?
> I was thinking I could spot the quarry and then switch the lamp on to get a 
> proper aim without spooking them.
> TIA
> 
> Sean 
> 
> 


I have a couple of GEN 1 and frankly unless your looking to spend money 
on the "top" end kit (200 +) then forget it!

These 50 or 60 monoculars on ebay will have poor optical clarity and 
rabbits will just blend in to the background at 80 yds.

Binoculars are better than monoculars and gen 1+ binoculars can be had 
for a couple of hundred pounds. With such kit, I spot rabbits out to the 
80 yd range.

Gen2 is slightly better than GEN1 but most of the stuff is military and 
is not designed to spot rabbit size targets. I have just sold a GEN3 
rifle scope, that *was* good, very good but IMO not worth the 2k I sold 
it for.


HTH

John

"Sean"  wrote in
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> I have been wondering if using a night vision monocular would be of 
> assistance while shooting rabbits and foxes at night, as a suplement
> to the rifle mounted lamp I currently use. Some of the gen 1 units
> seem to be reasonably priced nowadays.
> Does anyone have any experience with these units? Would they be
> usefull for spotting rabbits at 70 or 80 metres on a pitch black
> night? I was thinking I could spot the quarry and then switch the lamp
> on to get a proper aim without spooking them.
> TIA
> 
> Sean 
> 
> 


Why not use a red filter? Foxes and rabbits are not so easily spooked by 
light at this end of the spectrum but you will still see them. And its 
CHEAP!!<g>

Derry

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:21:44 +0100, John
<john.p.young*removethislittlebit*@ntlworld.com> wrote:


>Gen2 is slightly better than GEN1 but most of the stuff is military and 
>is not designed to spot rabbit size targets. I have just sold a GEN3 
>rifle scope, that *was* good, very good but IMO not worth the 2k I sold 
>it for.
>

	John, I hope the chap you sold it to doesn't
read this ng.  Otherwise he may feel a bit miffed ;-)

	Gyppo

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J Craggs wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:21:44 +0100, John
> <john.p.young*removethislittlebit*@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Gen2 is slightly better than GEN1 but most of the stuff is military and 
>>is not designed to spot rabbit size targets. I have just sold a GEN3 
>>rifle scope, that *was* good, very good but IMO not worth the 2k I sold 
>>it for.
>>
> 
> 	John, I hope the chap you sold it to doesn't
> read this ng.  Otherwise he may feel a bit miffed ;-)
> 
> 	Gyppo
> 
> John Craggs - Writer - Adult Tutor - Storyteller
>                and All-Round Rogue
> Need a laugh?  Then subscribe to the free Monday Silly Digest:
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Hi John,

He knows the way I feel about night vision equipment.
IMHO it has it's uses in "hunting" and in specialist scenarios in pest 
control where public opinion has to be paramount but for the money I 
would rather go down the market and buy a few rabbits and pigeons :)
If it were legal to do so, such equipment could come in very hand for 
deer management, where a high level of crop destruction was being 
observed but it isn't. Sometimes I think technology can take over what 
is in essence a very old and traditional way of life, again IMO night 
vision equipment doesn't really give much of an edge and if things were 
done correctly, with reference to lamping, then there is IMO no 
advantage in spending '000 on electronic scopes.

I've used night vision equipment for a good few years now and frankly, 
eveytime I buy a new scope, it leaves me begging the question "Why".

John

Thanks very much chaps.
You have saved me some money. I shall keep it in my wallet and stick to 
using the lamp.

Best regards

Sean


"Derry Argue"  wrote in message 
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> "Sean"  wrote in
> news:d8mgme$cek$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk:
>
>> I have been wondering if using a night vision monocular would be of
>> assistance while shooting rabbits and foxes at night, as a suplement
>> to the rifle mounted lamp I currently use. Some of the gen 1 units
>> seem to be reasonably priced nowadays.
>> Does anyone have any experience with these units? Would they be
>> usefull for spotting rabbits at 70 or 80 metres on a pitch black
>> night? I was thinking I could spot the quarry and then switch the lamp
>> on to get a proper aim without spooking them.
>> TIA
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>
>
> Why not use a red filter? Foxes and rabbits are not so easily spooked by
> light at this end of the spectrum but you will still see them. And its
> CHEAP!!<g>
>
> Derry 

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:25:20 +0100, John
<john.p.young*removethislittlebit*@ntlworld.com> wrote:


>
>I've used night vision equipment for a good few years now and frankly, 
>eveytime I buy a new scope, it leaves me begging the question "Why".


	It's what one of the other readers used to call
the 'Kit Monster'.  It hides in your gun cupboard and
sends subliminal messages about empty spaces needing to
be filled, or money standing idle in a bank account ;-)

	Eventually you have to give in, and you tell
yourself that 'surely things must have got better over
the years since you last bought the 'latest whatever'.
Quite often it's only the advertising which has got
better.  It took me years to finally admit to myself
that Eley Wasps were the most consistent and reliable
killers in any of my air rifles.  And even now I'd
still feel the need to try any new and innovative
designs.  Sad, isn't it? ;-)

	Gyppo

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               and All-Round Rogue
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