Hello all.

Sorry I've been off for about four months but here I am again.  Did
you miss me?  Do you know who I am?  Thought not.

Anyway: SHMBO was using her shiney new Nissan Alimra Tino 1.8l today
and was listening to music while waiting for an appointment.  Air can
wasn't on, but the usual fan was on to cool the car down - engine off.

After she got back from her appointment the car wouldn't start.  Every
time she tried to start it the doors would lock and unlock.  Cue panic
phone call to me (and I know nothing about cars) so I said "Are you
pressing the lock/unlock button on the key when you turn it in the
ignition?" and I got a boomed NO from her.

After half an hour the RAC turned up and diagnosed a flat battery.

The car is a month old (from new) and has been driven by both herself
me, so it's getting a decent charge in it and went on a 160 mile
motorway and around town trip on Saturday.  It's done 900 miles in the
last month and I've just checked to make sure none of the courtesy
lights are on while the car is off.  Without the key in and the doors
closed it is behaving exactly like it should - with just the immob
light flickering on every second or so.

There is no alarm on it and no obvious objects draining power from the
battery.

SHMBO did what she was told by Mr. RAC and went around for an hour
after he started it (and presumably put a small charge in it) so it's
got some juice left and is performing normally now.

I got out my voltmeter and touched the battery terminals while the
engine was off and it was giving off 12.8v.  With the engine on it's
giving 14.3v which only goes up by about 0.05v when I rev it to
2,500rpm.

When I used to 'do' cars before joining the Dark Side and moving to
motorcycles I remember my battery used to give off about 12.2v when
the engine was off and 12.8v when revved to 2,500rpm.

For her new Nissan, does 12.8v from a battery in an 'off' engine sound
normal?  14.3v sounds a little high when the engine is on but I'm
assuming that is because the battery is being re-charged.

She's taking it back to the main dealer tomorrow for 'piece of mind'
but does it sound reasonable for a reasonably used new car with 900
miles on the clock to suffer from a dead battery after just 40 minutes
listening to a CD and the fan (not air con) being on?  In her Shit Old
Astra she would sometimes do the same thing for up to two hours and
still have no problems with battery charge.

Take care,
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Nick wrote:

> Hello all.
>
> Sorry I've been off for about four months but here I am again.  Did
> you miss me?  Do you know who I am?  Thought not.
>
> Anyway: SHMBO was using her shiney new Nissan Alimra Tino 1.8l today
> and was listening to music while waiting for an appointment.  Air can
> wasn't on, but the usual fan was on to cool the car down - engine off.
>
> After she got back from her appointment the car wouldn't start.  Every
> time she tried to start it the doors would lock and unlock.  Cue panic
> phone call to me (and I know nothing about cars) so I said "Are you
> pressing the lock/unlock button on the key when you turn it in the
> ignition?" and I got a boomed NO from her.
>
> After half an hour the RAC turned up and diagnosed a flat battery.
>
> The car is a month old (from new) and has been driven by both herself
> me, so it's getting a decent charge in it and went on a 160 mile
> motorway and around town trip on Saturday.  It's done 900 miles in the
> last month and I've just checked to make sure none of the courtesy
> lights are on while the car is off.  Without the key in and the doors
> closed it is behaving exactly like it should - with just the immob
> light flickering on every second or so.
>
> There is no alarm on it and no obvious objects draining power from the
> battery.
>
> SHMBO did what she was told by Mr. RAC and went around for an hour
> after he started it (and presumably put a small charge in it) so it's
> got some juice left and is performing normally now.
>
> I got out my voltmeter and touched the battery terminals while the
> engine was off and it was giving off 12.8v.  With the engine on it's
> giving 14.3v which only goes up by about 0.05v when I rev it to
> 2,500rpm.


14V is about right. Could be a crap battery. If it's ever been run flat
before (ex demo or pre regged car?) then the battery won't be capable of
holding much charge. You should get a new battery under warranty, IMO

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:08:31 +0100, "doki"  wrote:


>14V is about right. Could be a crap battery. If it's ever been run flat
>before (ex demo or pre regged car?) then the battery won't be capable of
>holding much charge. You should get a new battery under warranty, IMO


Thank you flower - the car isn't an ex-demo or a pre-regged car - just
an off the shelf Tino.

Did you ever replace your dear Ka?

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Nick  wrote:


> On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:08:31 +0100, "doki"  wrote:
> 
> >14V is about right. Could be a crap battery. If it's ever been run flat
> >before (ex demo or pre regged car?) then the battery won't be capable of
> >holding much charge. You should get a new battery under warranty, IMO
> 
> Thank you flower 


Get yer coat, Doki, you've pulled ;-)
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:13:46 +0100, steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH)
wrote:


>> >14V is about right. Could be a crap battery. If it's ever been run flat
>> >before (ex demo or pre regged car?) then the battery won't be capable of
>> >holding much charge. You should get a new battery under warranty, IMO
>> 
>> Thank you flower 
>
>Get yer coat, Doki, you've pulled ;-)


Normal person: <---------->
         Doki: <---------------------------------------------------->

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Nick wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:08:31 +0100, "doki"  wrote:
>
>> 14V is about right. Could be a crap battery. If it's ever been run
>> flat before (ex demo or pre regged car?) then the battery won't be
>> capable of holding much charge. You should get a new battery under
>> warranty, IMO
>
> Thank you flower - the car isn't an ex-demo or a pre-regged car - just
> an off the shelf Tino.
>
> Did you ever replace your dear Ka?


Ka - dead
Volvo - sold
Mondeo - dead
Golf GTi 16v - mangled by thieves
Golf GTi 8v - current transport

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:46:36 +0100, "doki"  wrote:


>
>
>Nick wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:08:31 +0100, "doki"  wrote:
>>
>>> 14V is about right. Could be a crap battery. If it's ever been run
>>> flat before (ex demo or pre regged car?) then the battery won't be
>>> capable of holding much charge. You should get a new battery under
>>> warranty, IMO
>>
>> Thank you flower - the car isn't an ex-demo or a pre-regged car - just
>> an off the shelf Tino.
>>
>> Did you ever replace your dear Ka?
>
>Ka - dead
>Volvo - sold
>Mondeo - dead
>Golf GTi 16v - mangled by thieves
>Golf GTi 8v - current transport


What's that noise?  Oh, it's a Suzuki GSXR1000 calling you...

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Nick wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:46:36 +0100, "doki"  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Nick wrote:
>>> On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:08:31 +0100, "doki"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> 14V is about right. Could be a crap battery. If it's ever been run
>>>> flat before (ex demo or pre regged car?) then the battery won't be
>>>> capable of holding much charge. You should get a new battery under
>>>> warranty, IMO
>>>
>>> Thank you flower - the car isn't an ex-demo or a pre-regged car -
>>> just an off the shelf Tino.
>>>
>>> Did you ever replace your dear Ka?
>>
>> Ka - dead
>> Volvo - sold
>> Mondeo - dead
>> Golf GTi 16v - mangled by thieves
>> Golf GTi 8v - current transport
>
> What's that noise?  Oh, it's a Suzuki GSXR1000 calling you...


I'm not keen on ending up in a field, invisible from the road and dying of
thirst...

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:31:49 +0100, "doki"  wrote:


>>>>> 14V is about right. Could be a crap battery. If it's ever been run
>>>>> flat before (ex demo or pre regged car?) then the battery won't be
>>>>> capable of holding much charge. You should get a new battery under
>>>>> warranty, IMO
>>>>
>>>> Thank you flower - the car isn't an ex-demo or a pre-regged car -
>>>> just an off the shelf Tino.
>>>>
>>>> Did you ever replace your dear Ka?
>>>
>>> Ka - dead
>>> Volvo - sold
>>> Mondeo - dead
>>> Golf GTi 16v - mangled by thieves
>>> Golf GTi 8v - current transport
>>
>> What's that noise?  Oh, it's a Suzuki GSXR1000 calling you...
>
>I'm not keen on ending up in a field, invisible from the road and dying of
>thirst...


Don't Fucking Crash then.  But don't follow my example... being
stretchered off on a spinal board after binning your machine at speed
on a bend isn't all that good.  Trust me on that one :)  Chicks dig
the scars, though.

Bouncing, rolling and skidding to a halt on tarmac is a very odd
sensation.

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Nick wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:31:49 +0100, "doki"  wrote:
>
>>>>>> 14V is about right. Could be a crap battery. If it's ever been
>>>>>> run flat before (ex demo or pre regged car?) then the battery
>>>>>> won't be capable of holding much charge. You should get a new
>>>>>> battery under warranty, IMO
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you flower - the car isn't an ex-demo or a pre-regged car -
>>>>> just an off the shelf Tino.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you ever replace your dear Ka?
>>>>
>>>> Ka - dead
>>>> Volvo - sold
>>>> Mondeo - dead
>>>> Golf GTi 16v - mangled by thieves
>>>> Golf GTi 8v - current transport
>>>
>>> What's that noise?  Oh, it's a Suzuki GSXR1000 calling you...
>>
>> I'm not keen on ending up in a field, invisible from the road and
>> dying of thirst...
>
> Don't Fucking Crash then.


Didn't quite make that out...


> But don't follow my example... being
> stretchered off on a spinal board after binning your machine at speed
> on a bend isn't all that good.  Trust me on that one :)  Chicks dig
> the scars, though.
>
> Bouncing, rolling and skidding to a halt on tarmac is a very odd
> sensation.


Been there done that (well, the scars and the skidding and bouncing on
tarmac). And on various other surfaces. Crashing at < 50mph from a bicycle
is bad enough...

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:56:58 +0100, "doki"  wrote:


>> But don't follow my example... being
>> stretchered off on a spinal board after binning your machine at speed
>> on a bend isn't all that good.  Trust me on that one :)  Chicks dig
>> the scars, though.
>>
>> Bouncing, rolling and skidding to a halt on tarmac is a very odd
>> sensation.
>
>Been there done that (well, the scars and the skidding and bouncing on
>tarmac). And on various other surfaces. Crashing at < 50mph from a bicycle
>is bad enough...


Bicycles are dangerous.  Stay away from them.

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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "doki"  saying
something like:


>> What's that noise?  Oh, it's a Suzuki GSXR1000 calling you...
>
>I'm not keen on ending up in a field, invisible from the road and dying of
>thirst...


The last rally I was at was like that. 

The beer ran out... sob.
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:36:37 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
 wrote:


>We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>drugs began to take hold. I remember "doki"  saying
>something like:
>
>>> What's that noise?  Oh, it's a Suzuki GSXR1000 calling you...
>>
>>I'm not keen on ending up in a field, invisible from the road and dying of
>>thirst...
>
>The last rally I was at was like that. 
>
>The beer ran out... sob.


Mew :)

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