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Velcro   
Good, innit?

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Date:12 Jun 2005 15:28:13 GMT   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
At 12 Jun 2005 15:28:13 GMT, message <d8hkad$rl2$3@anubis.demon.co.uk>
was posted by huge@ukmisc.org.uk (Huge), including some, all or none
of the following:


>Good, innit?


Very.  Assuming you mean the hook-and-loop fastener, and not the slang
term for yrfovna?

One of my favourite stories (may well be apocryphal): the humble
Post-It was invented by a man who worked for 3M.  He came across a
low-tack adhesive that had been written off by everyone else as
useless.  He was a chorister; he thought to himself that a low tack
adhesive, applied to paper tags, would be a simple and effective way
of marking his place.  And an industry was born...

As a chorister it always pleases me that when I use post-its to mark
my place, I may well be using them for *exactly* the purpose for which
they were invented.


Guy
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simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken
Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:08:37 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Huge said:

> Good, innit?


Yes, indeed.

But, is it better than CD jewel cases, eh ? Eh ?

-- 
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

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Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:22:27 -0000   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On 12 Jun 2005 15:28:13 GMT, huge@ukmisc.org.uk (Huge) wrote:


>Good, innit?


I'm hooked on it, it drives me loopy.
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Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:23:40 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Huge wrote:

> Good, innit?
> 

Yus...  But a right bugger to sew to anything.

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Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:35:10 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On 12 Jun 2005 15:28:13 GMT, huge@ukmisc.org.uk (Huge) wrote this (or
the missive included this):


>Good, innit?


It's a sticking point with me, I'm afraid

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Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:43:40 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
I submit that on or about Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:22:27 -0000, the person
known to the court as Richard Robinson  made a
statement ( in Your Honour's
bundle) to the following effect:


>But, is it better than CD jewel cases, eh ? Eh ?


Do the trouser press baby!  WHOOOH!!
it's much better than the prefabricated concrete coal bunker...


Guy
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"To every complex problem there is a solution which is
simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken
Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:08:43 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
The message 
from "Just zis Guy, you know?"  contains these words:


> Very.  Assuming you mean the hook-and-loop fastener, and not the slang
> term for yrfovna?


IRTA leprosy, and then IRI properly and am still surprised. I'd never
heard that one.

-- 
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:56:33 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
The message 
from "Just zis Guy, you know?"  contains these words:


> As a chorister it always pleases me that when I use post-its to mark
> my place, I may well be using them for *exactly* the purpose for which
> they were invented.


Nah, Post-Its were invented as a way of avoiding land-fill tax on a
surplus of boiled slug extract.

-- 
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:57:27 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
The message <42ac7f7e$0$41918$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net>
from Kate Dicey  contains these words:


> Yus...  But a right bugger to sew to anything.


Ever tried sewing on the self-adhesive sort?

Don't.

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Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:20:50 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
I submit that on or about Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:56:33 +0100, the person
known to the court as Guy King  made a
statement ( in Your Honour's
bundle) to the following effect:


>> Very.  Assuming you mean the hook-and-loop fastener, and not the slang
>> term for yrfovna?

>IRTA leprosy, and then IRI properly and am still surprised. I'd never
>heard that one.


Think about it :-)


Guy
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simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken
Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:23:33 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
I submit that on or about Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:20:50 +0100, the person
known to the court as Guy King  made a
statement ( in Your Honour's
bundle) to the following effect:


>Ever tried sewing on the self-adhesive sort?


I'd stick it on with a bit of Velcro.

Oh.

As you were, then.


Guy
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simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken
Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:29:05 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
In article , Just zis Guy,
you know?  writes

>I submit that on or about Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:22:27 -0000, the person
>known to the court as Richard Robinson  made a
>statement ( in Your Honour's
>bundle) to the following effect:
>
>>But, is it better than CD jewel cases, eh ? Eh ?
>
>Do the trouser press baby!  WHOOOH!!

Give it all you can

>it's much better than the prefabricated concrete coal bunker...

-- 
Roger Hunt
Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:25:31 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On or around Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:08:37 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
 enlightened us thusly:


>slang term for yrfovna?


eh? wot-why?

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"Pereant qui ante nos nostra dixerunt" 
(confound the men who have made our remarks before us.) 
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Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:36:41 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:35:10 +0100, Kate Dicey wrote:


> 
> 
> Huge wrote:
>> Good, innit?
>> 
> Yus...  But a right bugger to sew to anything.


Ah, Mistress Dicey, what _have_ you been doing to balloonists round your
way?

-- 
Big Tone
Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:40:25 GMT   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
I submit that on or about Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:36:41 +0100, the person
known to the court as Austin Shackles  made
a statement ( in Your
Honour's bundle) to the following effect:


>>slang term for yrfovna?
>eh? wot-why?


Do I need to paint a picture?  Actually I suspect that someone on the
Interweb has already done so...


Guy
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"To every complex problem there is a solution which is
simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken
Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:41:28 +0100   Author:  

Re: VELCRO   
Hmmm. From another place:

That Touch Of VELCRO

In Jen Darr's article "Violent Femmes" (May 15), she unfortunately
misuses the registered trademark VELCRO. We are sure the misuse was
unintentional; however, such an oversight can serve to weaken the
identity and value of our VELCRO hook and loop fastener trademark.

Many terms that we all use frequently in our everyday language were
once trademarks, like "escalator," "thermos," "cellophane" and
"nylon." All of these terms lost their distinction as trademarks
because their owners allowed them to be misused by the public. That's
why the Velcro companies pay close attention to how the VELCRO
trademark is used by the media. We must ensure that the VELCRO
trademark continues to be used as a brand name for the products we
manufactureand not as a name for just any fastener.

The VELCRO trademark must modify the goods it distinguishes and
because VELCRO is a registered trademark, it needs to be easily
distinguished from the rest of the printed text. If you mean to refer
to our product, please capitalize the mark followed by the symbol ","
the "brand" and the generic term "hook and loop fastener." However,
the product must incorporate genuine VELCRO fasteners in order for
the trademark to be used. If you mean to refer to the type of fastener
or if you are unsure whether or not the product is or incorporates
genuine VELCRO brand fasteners, use the generic term, "hook and loop
fastener" or "touch fastener."

Your assistance in properly using the VELCRO trademark is greatly
appreciated by the Velcro family of companies. Such careful attention
results in more accurate communication; it is helpful to your
audience; and it will help us to preserve the integrity of the VELCRO
trademarkwhich exclusively identifies the brand of hook and loop
fasteners manufactured by the Velcro companies.

Pamela J. Carter

Legal Assistant

Velcro Group Corporation


Guy
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simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken
Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:44:47 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Guy King  wrote:


> > Yus...  But a right bugger to sew to anything.
> 
> Ever tried sewing on the self-adhesive sort?
> 
> Don't.


Don't use it on your car dashboard either, 
the glue melts and goes all slidey and stringy.

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Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:52:56 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Just zis Guy, you know?  wrote:


> >>slang term for yrfovna?
> >eh? wot-why?
> 
> Do I need to paint a picture?  Actually I suspect that someone on the
> Interweb has already done so...


FWIW I don't get it either.

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Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:02:58 +0100   Author:  

VELCRO®Re:   
Just zis Guy, you know?  wrote:


> Hmmm. From another place:
> 
> That Touch Of VELCRO
> 
> In Jen Darr's article "Violent Femmes" (May 15),


Still no wiser, is research worth the effort I wonder? 
I somehow doubt it.

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Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:05:34 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
The message <d8hkad$rl2$3@anubis.demon.co.uk>
from huge@ukmisc.org.uk (Huge) contains these words:


> Good, innit?


Especially for flies - when you are ipssde there's not so much scope for
injury.

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Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:48:42 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
"Just zis Guy, you know?"  writes:

>At 12 Jun 2005 15:28:13 GMT, message <d8hkad$rl2$3@anubis.demon.co.uk>
>was posted by huge@ukmisc.org.uk (Huge), including some, all or none
>of the following:
>
>>Good, innit?
>
>Very.  Assuming you mean the hook-and-loop fastener, and not the slang
>term for yrfovna?


Blimey. I didn't know it was. I must get them to let me out more.


>One of my favourite stories (may well be apocryphal): the humble
>Post-It was invented by a man who worked for 3M.  He came across a
>low-tack adhesive that had been written off by everyone else as
>useless.  He was a chorister; he thought to himself that a low tack
>adhesive, applied to paper tags, would be a simple and effective way
>of marking his place.  And an industry was born...


I've heard the same story.


>
>As a chorister it always pleases me that when I use post-its to mark
>my place, I may well be using them for *exactly* the purpose for which
>they were invented.


Irony's good stuff, too.


-- 
       "The road to Paradise is through Intercourse."
        [email me at huge [at] huge [dot] org [dot] uk]
Date:12 Jun 2005 20:13:30 GMT   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Kate Dicey  writes:

>Huge wrote:
>> Good, innit?
>> 
>Yus...  But a right bugger to sew to anything.


Sew? I always use the self-adhesive stuff.

-- 
       "The road to Paradise is through Intercourse."
        [email me at huge [at] huge [dot] org [dot] uk]
Date:12 Jun 2005 20:13:53 GMT   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
The message <1gy2agg.ye717n16mnyfmN%snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk>
from snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) contains these words:

> Just zis Guy, you know?  wrote:

> > >>slang term for yrfovna?
> > >eh? wot-why?
> > 
> > Do I need to paint a picture?  Actually I suspect that someone on the
> > Interweb has already done so...

> FWIW I don't get it either.


Nor do I, but then I haven't got a regular umman innit.

But I haqrefgnaq the allusion.

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Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:55:34 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
"Just zis Guy, you know?"  writes:

>I submit that on or about Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:22:27 -0000, the person
>known to the court as Richard Robinson  made a
>statement ( in Your Honour's
>bundle) to the following effect:
>
>>But, is it better than CD jewel cases, eh ? Eh ?


Oh, much. They keep breaking.


>
>Do the trouser press baby!  WHOOOH!!
>it's much better than the prefabricated concrete coal bunker...


Oh, c'mon. Does anyone ever *use* a trouser press? Whereas the
chickens live in the prefabricated concrete coal bunker.


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       "The road to Paradise is through Intercourse."
        [email me at huge [at] huge [dot] org [dot] uk]
Date:12 Jun 2005 21:34:30 GMT   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) writes:

>Just zis Guy, you know?  wrote:
>
>> >>slang term for yrfovna?
>> >eh? wot-why?
>> 
>> Do I need to paint a picture?  Actually I suspect that someone on the
>> Interweb has already done so...
>
>FWIW I don't get it either.


B,oimey, it's obvious once you think about it!

(Do chorf come in hooks and loops?)


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Date:12 Jun 2005 21:35:52 GMT   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
"Just zis Guy, you know?" typed


> As a chorister it always pleases me that when I use post-its to mark
> my place, I may well be using them for *exactly* the purpose for which
> they were invented.


I didden xabj that. I hfr Post-its in my choral scores AAW. Few others
seen to do this thobut.

-- 
Helen D. Vecht: helenvecht@zetnet.co.uk
Edgware.
Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:52:23 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Kate Dicey typed



> Huge wrote:
> > Good, innit?
> > 
> Yus...  But a right bugger to sew to anything.


And the hooks chew up finely knitted cloves in the jnfuvat chamine.

-- 
Helen D. Vecht: helenvecht@zetnet.co.uk
Edgware.
Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:53:42 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:53:42 +0100, Helen Deborah Vecht
 wrote:


>> Huge wrote:
>> > Good, innit?
>> > 
>> Yus...  But a right bugger to sew to anything.
>
>And the hooks chew up finely knitted cloves in the jnfuvat chamine.


Don't ever try on a boiler suit (with a full length Velcro closure)
whilst wearing nylon stockings.

Fair buggers 'em up, it does.

Judith
Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:27:26 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer ^W^W^W^W uk.rec.sheds, Huge said 
....

> Kate Dicey  writes:
> >Huge wrote:
> >> Good, innit?
> >> 
> >Yus...  But a right bugger to sew to anything.
> 
> Sew? I always use the self-adhesive stuff.
> 
> 

Bro once superglued his fingers to the roof of his car geling to stick the 
sun visors up with velcro.  The self adhesive wasn't strong enough.
-- 
Fenny

If anyone ever tries to tell you nothing rhymes with orange, don't believe 
them.  It doesn't.
Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:36:03 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Huge said:

> "Just zis Guy, you know?"  writes:
>>known to the court as Richard Robinson  made a
>>
>>Do the trouser press baby!  WHOOOH!!
>>it's much better than the prefabricated concrete coal bunker...
>
> Oh, c'mon. Does anyone ever *use* a trouser press? Whereas the
> chickens live in the prefabricated concrete coal bunker.


So, WHOOOH! tooh yoouh tooh !

I suppose prefabricated concrete coal is what they put in these "real effect"
gas fires ? I'd keep it in a chicken bunker, if I had one.

-- 
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

If you want my address, put unmail2 where the spam trap is.
Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:47:14 -0000   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:27:26 +0100, Judith wrote:


> 
> 
> On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:53:42 +0100, Helen Deborah Vecht
>  wrote:
> 
>>> Huge wrote:
>>> > Good, innit?
>>> > 
>>> Yus...  But a right bugger to sew to anything.
>>
>>And the hooks chew up finely knitted cloves in the jnfuvat chamine.
> 
> Don't ever try on a boiler suit (with a full length Velcro closure)
> whilst wearing nylon stockings.
> 
> Fair buggers 'em up, it does.
> 

I think I'll go and have a lie down, or possibly a cold shower, maybe both.

-- 
Big Tone
Date:Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:17:49 GMT   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
In article , Fenny
 writes

>> 
>Bro once superglued his fingers to the roof of his car geling to stick the 
>sun visors up with velcro.  The self adhesive wasn't strong enough.


What happened when his bladder was full?
-- 
Roger Hunt
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 00:39:03 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
In message , Helen Deborah 
Vecht  writes

>"Just zis Guy, you know?" typed
>
>> As a chorister it always pleases me that when I use post-its to mark
>> my place, I may well be using them for *exactly* the purpose for which
>> they were invented.
>
>I didden xabj that. I hfr Post-its in my choral scores AAW. Few others
>seen to do this thobut.
>

It's pretty common in my choir, although I got a shock when one fell off 
before a concert and I couldn't find the page so I was singing the 
Hostias from Mozart's Requiem whilst looking at the Sanctus.
-- 
M Rimmer
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:28:07 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
"Roger Hunt"  wrote in message 
news:rZrMyLArwIrCFwvo@carewg.demon.co.uk...

> In article , Just zis Guy,
> you know?  writes
>>I submit that on or about Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:22:27 -0000, the person
>>known to the court as Richard Robinson  made a
>>statement ( in Your Honour's
>>bundle) to the following effect:
>>
>>>But, is it better than CD jewel cases, eh ? Eh ?
>>
>>Do the trouser press baby!  WHOOOH!!

Turn up for the books now.
Trouser it to me - don't hang me up now...

> Give it all you can
>>it's much better than the prefabricated concrete coal bunker...
> -- 
> Roger Hunt 
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:14:23 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
"Kate Dicey"  wrote in message 
news:42ac7f7e$0$41918$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...

> Huge wrote:
>> Good, innit?
>>
> Yus...  But a right bugger to sew to anything.


I used to use the sticky-backed stuff.
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:36:12 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
"Helen Deborah Vecht"  wrote in message 
news:313030303736393542ACBCF681@zetnet.co.uk...

> Kate Dicey typed
>
>
>> Huge wrote:
>> > Good, innit?
>> >
>> Yus...  But a right bugger to sew to anything.
>
> And the hooks chew up finely knitted cloves in the jnfuvat chamine.


Which is why I always do the velcro up. We have a lot of velcro to 
wash these days, since all the nappy wraps do up with the stuff.
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:37:28 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
"Huge"  wrote in message 
news:d8hkad$rl2$3@anubis.demon.co.uk...

> Good, innit?


It's fantastic. Makes doing up toddler shoes a cinch.

Unfortunately, it makes undoing toddlers shoes also a cinch...
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:38:42 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On 13 Jun,  
     Roger Hunt  wrote:


> In article , Fenny
>  writes
> >> 
> > Bro once superglued his fingers to the roof of his car geling to stick
> > the  sun visors up with velcro.  The self adhesive wasn't strong enough.
> 
> What happened when his bladder was full?


How could it get full if he couldn't lift the glass to his lips?

-- 
Brn [13435]
[13435]Change lycos to yahoo to reply.
       I've always believed that the population is more dense in the 
       South of England.
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:00:49 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
The message 
from Fenny  contains these words:


> Bro once superglued his fingers to the roof of his car geling to stick the 
> sun visors up with velcro.  The self adhesive wasn't strong enough.


Butbutbut - the self-adhesive is meant to stick the Velcro on, not the
fingers innit.

-- 
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:49:57 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
The message 
from Judith  contains these words:

> On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:53:42 +0100, Helen Deborah Vecht
>  wrote:
> >> Huge wrote:

> >> > Good, innit?
> >> > 
> >> Yus...  But a right bugger to sew to anything.
> >
> >And the hooks chew up finely knitted cloves in the jnfuvat chamine.

> Don't ever try on a boiler suit (with a full length Velcro closure)
> whilst wearing nylon stockings.

> Fair buggers 'em up, it does.


Thanks for warning me.

-- 
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:48:48 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On 13 Jun,  
     "Linz"  wrote:



> Unfortunately, it makes undoing toddlers shoes also a cinch... 
> 

And my watch strap. I must clean the gunk out of the hookey bits.


-- 
Brn [13435]
[13435]Change lycos to yahoo to reply.
       I've always believed that the population is more dense in the 
       South of England.
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:02:33 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
"Linz" typed




> "Helen Deborah Vecht"  wrote in message 
> news:313030303736393542ACBCF681@zetnet.co.uk...
> > Kate Dicey typed
> >
> >
> >> Huge wrote:
> >> > Good, innit?
> >> >
> >> Yus...  But a right bugger to sew to anything.
> >
> > And the hooks chew up finely knitted cloves in the jnfuvat chamine.

> Which is why I always do the velcro up. We have a lot of velcro to 
> wash these days, since all the nappy wraps do up with the stuff. 



That's OK for nappies. I found vecro fastenings chewed quite a lot of me
psychling cloves TAAW and me cTbhio rain jacket chews itself up...

-- 
Helen D. Vecht: helenvecht@zetnet.co.uk
Edgware.
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:36:51 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
"Linz" typed




> "Huge"  wrote in message 
> news:d8hkad$rl2$3@anubis.demon.co.uk...
> > Good, innit?

> It's fantastic. Makes doing up toddler shoes a cinch.

> Unfortunately, it makes undoing toddlers shoes also a cinch... 



Undoing shoes are a cinch anyway, iffn they aren't buckled up. I
remember my ickle toddler brother walking up a choob trane undoing
passengers' lace-up shoes...

-- 
Helen D. Vecht: helenvecht@zetnet.co.uk
Edgware.
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:39:07 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer ^W^W^W^W uk.rec.sheds, Jaques 
d'Alltrades said ...

> The message 
> from Fenny  contains these words:
> 
> > Bro once superglued his fingers to the roof of his car geling to stick the 
> > sun visors up with velcro.  The self adhesive wasn't strong enough.
> 
> Butbutbut - the self-adhesive is meant to stick the Velcro on, not the
> fingers innit.
> 
> 

Arbut, the velcro were porous and the gloo came through and stuck to his 
fingers while he were holding it up to the roof.
-- 
Fenny

Health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die.
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:55:13 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
In article , Helen Deborah
Vecht  writes

>"Linz" typed
>
>> "Huge"  wrote in message 
>> news:d8hkad$rl2$3@anubis.demon.co.uk...
>> > Good, innit?
>
>> It's fantastic. Makes doing up toddler shoes a cinch.
>
>> Unfortunately, it makes undoing toddlers shoes also a cinch... 
>
>Undoing shoes are a cinch anyway, iffn they aren't buckled up. I
>remember my ickle toddler brother walking up a choob trane undoing
>passengers' lace-up shoes...
>

Did he learn to tie different passengers' laces together?
-- 
Roger Hunt
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:04:55 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Roger Hunt typed



> In article , Helen Deborah
> Vecht  writes
> >"Linz" typed
> >
> >> "Huge"  wrote in message 
> >> news:d8hkad$rl2$3@anubis.demon.co.uk...
> >> > Good, innit?
> >
> >> It's fantastic. Makes doing up toddler shoes a cinch.
> >
> >> Unfortunately, it makes undoing toddlers shoes also a cinch... 
> >
> >Undoing shoes are a cinch anyway, iffn they aren't buckled up. I
> >remember my ickle toddler brother walking up a choob trane undoing
> >passengers' lace-up shoes...
> >
> Did he learn to tie different passengers' laces together?


No, he cooden do up laces, he could just undo them...

-- 
Helen D. Vecht: helenvecht@zetnet.co.uk
Edgware.
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:35:12 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Austin Shackles wrote:

> On or around Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:08:37 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you
> know?"  enlightened us thusly:
>
> > slang term for yrfovna?
>
> eh? wot-why?


http://www.dirtydictionary.com/velcro.html

-- 
yours S

Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:37:56 GMT   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:53:42 +0100, Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:


> Kate Dicey typed
> 
> > Huge wrote:
> > > Good, innit?
> > > 
> > Yus...  But a right bugger to sew to anything.
> 
> And the hooks chew up finely knitted cloves in the jnfuvat chamine.


I've got a coat wich Velcro fastenings at the front and on the cuffs.
It's vital to make sure the sleeves are free before putting it on.

-- 
Paul Clark                 you.missed -> umist to reply
Where there's hope there's disappointment.
                                --  Point Counter Point, Aldous Huxley
Date:13 Jun 2005 14:26:47 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Huge wrote:

> Kate Dicey  writes:
>> Huge wrote:
>>> Good, innit?
>>>
>> Yus...  But a right bugger to sew to anything.
>
> Sew? I always use the self-adhesive stuff.


Which then fails properly to self-adhere.  My waterproof jacket, bicyclists
for the use of, has a flap over the zip, which is in turn held in place by
Velcro, but the skinflints at WL Gore had though to save three pence on
the cost of a jacket retailing at a Several of Getties per square foot, by
using a half dozen or so separate pieces rather than a single strip from top
to bottom.  Ergo there are gaps in the Velcro coverage.  Through which
water would sneak, rendering yours truly cold, damp and miserable.

"Aha!" I /thought/.  "I shall purchase some of that self-adhesive
Velcro, cut it into handy servings and use it to seal the gaps, thereby
preventing the ingress of damp and enhancing shareholder value."  Which I
did.  And Lo!  The water stayed away, and there was great rejoicing.

Until the /end/ of the Cotswold Corker, when removal of the said jacket
resulting also in the removal of the Velcro, and the utterance of Harsh
Words.

And yes, I'd even used the "heat the sticky side with a hair-dryer prior to
sticking it" tip, but to no avail.

Bah!

-- 
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
If you are choking on an ice cube, simply pour a jug of boiling water
down your throat and presto! The blockage is almost instantly removed.
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:14:51 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Dave Larrington said:

>
> Which then fails properly to self-adhere.  My waterproof jacket, bicyclists
> for the use of, has a flap over the zip, which is in turn held in place by
> Velcro, but the skinflints at WL Gore had though to save three pence on
> the cost of a jacket retailing at a Several of Getties per square foot


I say, I say ! Your jacket has square feet ?

-- 
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

If you want my address, put unmail2 where the spam trap is.
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:16:28 -0000   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
In uk.rec.sheds,  (soup) wrote in
<E6fre.49706$G8.37835@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>::


>Austin Shackles wrote:
>> On or around Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:08:37 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you
>> know?"  enlightened us thusly:
>>
>> > slang term for yrfovna?
>>
>> eh? wot-why?
>
>http://www.dirtydictionary.com/velcro.html


Heh.  I read the explanation, and it's a bit of a leap, nonetheless.

Here's a lesbian joke[1]:

D: Ubj znal fperjf va n yrfovna'f orq?
N: Abar- vg'f nyy gbathr naq tebbir.

[1] From my niece, who is of that ilk[2].
[2] Amusingly (to those that know me) she was nervous about telling me.
-- 
Marc

"Being constantly with children was like wearing a pair of shoes that were expensive and too small.  
She couldn't bear to throw them out, but they gave her blisters." (Beryl Bainbridge,  "Injury Time")
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:12:14 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
In uk.rec.sheds,  (Dave Larrington) wrote in
::


>Huge wrote:
>> Kate Dicey  writes:
>>> Huge wrote:
>>>> Good, innit?
>>>>
>>> Yus...  But a right bugger to sew to anything.
>>
>> Sew? I always use the self-adhesive stuff.
>
>Which then fails properly to self-adhere.  My waterproof jacket, bicyclists
>for the use of, has a flap over the zip, which is in turn held in place by
>Velcro, but the skinflints at WL Gore had though to save three pence on
>the cost of a jacket retailing at a Several of Getties per square foot, by
>using a half dozen or so separate pieces rather than a single strip from top
>to bottom.  Ergo there are gaps in the Velcro coverage.  Through which
>water would sneak, rendering yours truly cold, damp and miserable.
>
>"Aha!" I /thought/.  "I shall purchase some of that self-adhesive
>Velcro, cut it into handy servings and use it to seal the gaps, thereby
>preventing the ingress of damp and enhancing shareholder value."  Which I
>did.  And Lo!  The water stayed away, and there was great rejoicing.
>
>Until the /end/ of the Cotswold Corker, when removal of the said jacket
>resulting also in the removal of the Velcro, and the utterance of Harsh
>Words.
>
>And yes, I'd even used the "heat the sticky side with a hair-dryer prior to
>sticking it" tip, but to no avail.


I have supplemented the self-stick with adhesives, various in the past,
especially for automotive use.  The best self-stick ones I've found so far
are the "coins" which are Velcro discs of about 2" diameter, which are
both very sticky indeed and which have strong Velcro bonds- several pounds
can be dangled from each.

It's occurred to me in the past that it would be a Fine Thing if car
dashboards had a standard "accessory rack" so that add-ons like GPS,
compasses, phone holders etc could be attached without the use of Velcro,
suction cups and simla.
-- 
Marc

The English are not very spiritual people, so they invented 
cricket to give them some idea of eternity.   (George Bernard 
Shaw)
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:28:24 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:


> Kate Dicey typed
> 
> 
> 
>>Huge wrote:
>>
>>>Good, innit?
>>>
>>
>>Yus...  But a right bugger to sew to anything.
> 
> 
> And the hooks chew up finely knitted cloves in the jnfuvat chamine.
> 

Yuss.  Always close Velcro fastenings before washing.  Don't always STAY 
closed, but at least you tried!

-- 
Kate  XXXXXX  R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:21:57 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Guy King wrote:


> The message <42ac7f7e$0$41918$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net>
> from Kate Dicey  contains these words:
> 
> 
>>Yus...  But a right bugger to sew to anything.
> 
> 
> Ever tried sewing on the self-adhesive sort?
> 
> Don't.
> 

I have warned frequently against that activity.  I do like it, but not 
for fabric.  It doesn't stick well to fabric, but once stuck badly, it 
will glue the innards of your bobbin case together unpleasantly if you 
then try to sew it...

The best use for self stick it for hard surfaces.  You can get a 
stick-on hooks and sew-in loops combination (fantastic for sticking 
light weight curtains to stage blocks to cover the crap you heaped under 
them!), as well as stick-on loops and sew-in hooks combinations (not 
found a use for that yet - the hooky side is unpleasantly scratchy), 
sticky hook dots (for attaching notices and the like to fuzzy covered 
boards) and other combinations.  They even make an extra soft version 
for use on baby stuff.  The idea of being able to Velcro your infant to 
the sofa to stop it falling off has it's attractions, as does being able 
to Velcro it to the ceiling to get it out the way for a while...

-- 
Kate  XXXXXX  R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:16:58 +0100   Author:  

VELCRO®Re:   
Sn!pe wrote:


> Just zis Guy, you know?  wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hmmm. From another place:
>>
>>That Touch Of VELCRO
>>
>>In Jen Darr's article "Violent Femmes" (May 15),
> 
> 
> Still no wiser, is research worth the effort I wonder? 
> I somehow doubt it.
> 


Cheaper versions (which are not as good in my experience) should be 
referred to as 'hook and loop closure/fasteners'.  Real proper Velcro is 
far superior.  Bit like the difference between real old cast iron Singer 
sewing chamines and the repro cheap junk made in China these days.

-- 
Kate  XXXXXX  R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:27:10 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Huge wrote:


> Kate Dicey  writes:
> 
>>Huge wrote:
>>
>>>Good, innit?
>>>
>>
>>Yus...  But a right bugger to sew to anything.
> 
> 
> Sew? I always use the self-adhesive stuff.
> 

No good for fabric.  Peels off and then you cannot sew the peeled off 
bits down...  Well, you CAN, but you then have a very expensive clean 
and service appointment for your sewing machine at the repair shoppe!

-- 
Kate  XXXXXX  R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:20:26 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Tony Davison wrote:


> On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:35:10 +0100, Kate Dicey wrote:
> 
> 
>>
>>Huge wrote:
>>
>>>Good, innit?
>>>
>>
>>Yus...  But a right bugger to sew to anything.
> 
> 
> Ah, Mistress Dicey, what _have_ you been doing to balloonists round your
> way?
> 


Don't yoo KNOW that's the only way to get balloons to stay up - Velcro 
them to the clouds!

-- 
Kate  XXXXXX  R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:18:35 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:48:48 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades
 wrote:


>> Don't ever try on a boiler suit (with a full length Velcro closure)
>> whilst wearing nylon stockings.
>
>> Fair buggers 'em up, it does.
>
>Thanks for warning me.


s'OK.

If you'd not been told then I could guarantee that you'd've been
wearing brand arj stockings and would've completely ruined them.  I
hate it when that happens.

Judith
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:43:12 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
The message <42ad9b87$0$2987$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net>
from Kate Dicey  contains these words:


> No good for fabric.  Peels off and then you cannot sew the peeled off 
> bits down...  Well, you CAN, but you then have a very expensive clean 
> and service appointment for your sewing machine at the repair shoppe!


When I did it, I cleaned it myself and learned a lot about sewing
machines in the process.

-- 
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:54:31 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
The message 
from Judith  contains these words:

> On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:48:48 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades
>  wrote:

> >> Don't ever try on a boiler suit (with a full length Velcro closure)
> >> whilst wearing nylon stockings.
> >
> >> Fair buggers 'em up, it does.
> >
> >Thanks for warning me.

> s'OK.

> If you'd not been told then I could guarantee that you'd've been
> wearing brand arj stockings and would've completely ruined them.  I
> hate it when that happens.


How do you prevent the furry bits on hairy legses poking out through the
weave?

("Get back in there, dernier!")

-- 
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:21:39 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:21:39 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades
 wrote:


>> If you'd not been told then I could guarantee that you'd've been
>> wearing brand arj stockings and would've completely ruined them.  I
>> hate it when that happens.
>
>How do you prevent the furry bits on hairy legses poking out through the
>weave?


Just wear a boiler-suit over the top - but get one with a zip not
Velcro.  Out of sight, out of mind.  

Judith
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:52:10 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Helen Deborah Vecht  writes:

>Kate Dicey typed
>
>
>> Huge wrote:
>> > Good, innit?
>> > 
>> Yus...  But a right bugger to sew to anything.
>
>And the hooks chew up finely knitted cloves in the jnfuvat chamine.


Not a problem, given that I am using it to hold bits of car togteher,
and the car won't fit in the jnfuvat chamine. Not even if I take
a *really* long runup.


-- 
       "The road to Paradise is through Intercourse."
        [email me at huge [at] huge [dot] org [dot] uk]
Date:13 Jun 2005 05:54:09 GMT   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Judith  writes:

>On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:53:42 +0100, Helen Deborah Vecht
> wrote:
>
>>> Huge wrote:
>>> > Good, innit?
>>> > 
>>> Yus...  But a right bugger to sew to anything.
>>
>>And the hooks chew up finely knitted cloves in the jnfuvat chamine.
>
>Don't ever try on a boiler suit (with a full length Velcro closure)
>whilst wearing nylon stockings.


Is it hot iun here?


-- 
       "The road to Paradise is through Intercourse."
        [email me at huge [at] huge [dot] org [dot] uk]
Date:13 Jun 2005 05:54:28 GMT   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:


> How do you prevent the furry bits on hairy legses poking out through the
> weave?


Shave the leggies fust.


-- 
Kate  XXXXXX  R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:57:01 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Br n wrote:


> On 13 Jun,  
>      "Linz"  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>>Unfortunately, it makes undoing toddlers shoes also a cinch... 
>>
> 
> And my watch strap. I must clean the gunk out of the hookey bits.
> 
> 

Meta nit comb's wot yoo need ferr that.

-- 
Kate  XXXXXX  R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:53:36 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
In article , Jaques
d'Alltrades  writes

>
>How do you prevent the furry bits on hairy legses poking out through the
>weave?
>

You a wax virgin then? 
G'waan - it hurts a bit but it will put hairs on your chest.
-- 
Roger Hunt
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:23:46 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer ^W^W^W^W uk.rec.sheds, Kate Dicey 
said ...

> Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
> 
> > How do you prevent the furry bits on hairy legses poking out through the
> > weave?
> 
> Shave the leggies fust.
> 

The reason for wearing the boiler suit is to avoid that.
-- 
Fenny

Buffy: Oh, God! Giles! Giles! I'm so I'm so sorry! Please don't die!
Giles: Actually, I feel quite well. Except for the rage.
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:02:49 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
uce@ftc.gov said...

> >Good, innit?
> 
> Very.  Assuming you mean the hook-and-loop fastener, and not the slang
> term for yrfovna?
> 

It is??  Since when?  I shall continue to use the term to mean the h-a-l 
f.
-- 
        / 
Fran  O(<|={
        \
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:13:50 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
huge@ukmisc.org.uk said...

> snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) writes:
> >Just zis Guy, you know?  wrote:
> >
> >> >>slang term for yrfovna?
> >> >eh? wot-why?
> >> 
> >> Do I need to paint a picture?  Actually I suspect that someone on the
> >> Interweb has already done so...
> >
> >FWIW I don't get it either.
> 
> B,oimey, it's obvious once you think about it!


No it isn't.

-- 
        / 
Fran  O(<|={
        \
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:13:52 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
1@slartibartfarst.com said...

> Austin Shackles wrote:
> > On or around Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:08:37 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you
> > know?"  enlightened us thusly:
> >
> > > slang term for yrfovna?
> >
> > eh? wot-why?
> 
> http://www.dirtydictionary.com/velcro.html
> 
> 

And whyfor is this only applicable to females?
-- 
        / 
Fran  O(<|={
        \
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:13:53 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
uce@ftc.gov said...

> I submit that on or about Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:36:41 +0100, the person
> known to the court as Austin Shackles  made
> a statement ( in Your
> Honour's bundle) to the following effect:
> 
> >>slang term for yrfovna?
> >eh? wot-why?
> 
> Do I need to paint a picture?  Actually I suspect that someone on the
> Interweb has already done so...


Actually, yes - but please don't feel obliged.  It molishes no frafr to 
me at all.
-- 
        / 
Fran  O(<|={
        \
Date:Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:13:51 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
The message 
from Sena  contains these words:


> Actually, yes - but please don't feel obliged.  It molishes no frafr to 
> me at all.


MNAAW. Seems a considerable stretch of the imagination.

-- 
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
Date:Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:12:53 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On 13 Jun,  
     Kate Dicey  wrote:


> Br n wrote:
> 
> > On 13 Jun,  
> >      "Linz"  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>Unfortunately, it makes undoing toddlers shoes also a cinch... 
> >>
> > 
> > And my watch strap. I must clean the gunk out of the hookey bits.
> > 
> > 
> Meta nit comb's wot yoo need ferr that.
>


It's prolly quicker tham wiv a pin.
 
You've just set me off scratching! Bah! 

-- 
Brn [13435]
[13435]Change lycos to yahoo to reply.
       I've always believed that the population is more dense in the 
       South of England.
Date:Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:44:57 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
"Kate Dicey"  wrote in message 
news:42ad9b87$0$2987$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...

> Huge wrote:
>
>> Kate Dicey  writes:
>>
>>>Huge wrote:
>>>
>>>>Good, innit?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Yus...  But a right bugger to sew to anything.
>>
>>
>> Sew? I always use the self-adhesive stuff.
>>
> No good for fabric.  Peels off and then you cannot sew the peeled
> off bits down...  Well, you CAN, but you then have a very expensive
> clean and service appointment for your sewing machine at the repair
> shoppe!


I used the stuff when I had to make my tabards for jbexing on the 
kids' wards. When the patches started to peel off I stuck arj ones on.
Date:Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:10:05 +0100   Author:  

VELCRO®Re:   
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:


> Hmmm. From another place:
> 
> That Touch Of VELCRO


[snippetry]

All I can say to that is "Portacabin".

-- 

JonG  (Self -Preservation Society No. 37 3/4)

The Shed: A Shelter from Pigs on the Wing
Date:Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:20:25 +0100   Author:  

Re: VELCRO   
JonG wrote:


> Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> 
>> Hmmm. From another place:
>> 
>> That Touch Of VELCRO
> 
> [snippetry]
> 
> All I can say to that is "Portacabin".


May I correct your speling?  It's "Portakabin".  According to the one 
I'm sitting in at the moment, anyway...

-- 
Thomas Rushton
Leeds, UK
Date:Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:42:37 GMT   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
In article <1gy29y2.mq9urssoanqfN%snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk>,
Sn!pe  wrote:

>Guy King  wrote:
>
>> > Yus...  But a right bugger to sew to anything.
>> 
>> Ever tried sewing on the self-adhesive sort?
>> 
>> Don't.
>
>Don't use it on your car dashboard either, 
>the glue melts and goes all slidey and stringy.


? you must have hotter dashboards Over There.  There's Velcro on 
my car's dashboard that has been there for several very hot summers
without slipping.  Thobut it's on a flattish area; possibly if it
were on a slanted bit, it might slide.

=Tamar
Date:Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:44:22 -0000   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
In article ,
Duncan Duck   wrote:

>On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:53:42 +0100, Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
>
>> Kate Dicey typed
>> 
>> > Huge wrote:
>> > > Good, innit?
>> > > 
>> > Yus...  But a right bugger to sew to anything.
>> 
>> And the hooks chew up finely knitted cloves in the jnfuvat chamine.
>
>I've got a coat wich Velcro fastenings at the front and on the cuffs.
>It's vital to make sure the sleeves are free before putting it on.


Is it white with suspiciously long sleeves?

=Tamar
Date:Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:48:57 -0000   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:28:07 +0100, M Rimmer 
wrote:


>In message , Helen Deborah 
>Vecht  writes
>>"Just zis Guy, you know?" typed
>>
>>> As a chorister it always pleases me that when I use post-its to mark
>>> my place, I may well be using them for *exactly* the purpose for which
>>> they were invented.
>>
>>I didden xabj that. I hfr Post-its in my choral scores AAW. Few others
>>seen to do this thobut.
>>
>It's pretty common in my choir, although I got a shock when one fell off 
>before a concert and I couldn't find the page so I was singing the 
>Hostias from Mozart's Requiem whilst looking at the Sanctus.


For the guitar-ensemble class I take, I copy all the pages of a piece
to single sides, then tape them together into one long scroll so I
don't have to do any page-turns.  Then I take a highlighter and mark
out my parts in fluorescent yellow or pink.

I still skip onto the wrong line from time to time.  Brian's perverse,
innit.


--Holly
Date:Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:43:21 -0700   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:44:22 -0000, dicconf@radix.net (Richard Eney)
wrote:


>In article <1gy29y2.mq9urssoanqfN%snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk>,
>Sn!pe  wrote:
>>Guy King  wrote:
>>
>>> > Yus...  But a right bugger to sew to anything.
>>> 
>>> Ever tried sewing on the self-adhesive sort?
>>> 
>>> Don't.
>>
>>Don't use it on your car dashboard either, 
>>the glue melts and goes all slidey and stringy.
>
>? you must have hotter dashboards Over There.  There's Velcro on 
>my car's dashboard that has been there for several very hot summers
>without slipping.  Thobut it's on a flattish area; possibly if it
>were on a slanted bit, it might slide.
>


Mebbe it depends on the material covering the dash.  My old Frod
pickup (now donated to charity, as it was beginning to nickel-and-dime
me to death, eh) had a dash covered in some plastic material, and
nothing stuck, except residue.  I tried to attach a Irypeb fastening
for a small clock, but the fastening fell off in short order.

Irypeb's glodawful stuff on clothing IMO.  I hate the sound it makes,
the corners curl annoyingly, it silts up with fluff, it's
uncomfortably stiff, it's ugly.  Give me some good old luddite buttons
or ties any day.

--Holly
Date:Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:44:21 -0700   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Holly G Pence said:

>
> uncomfortably stiff, it's ugly.  Give me some good old luddite buttons
> or ties any day.


I like the idea of a luddite button. Push it and the chaminery automatically
falls apart.

-- 
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

If you want my address, put unmail2 where the spam trap is.
Date:Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:00:18 -0000   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
In article , Richard Robinson
 writes

>Holly G Pence said:
>>
>> uncomfortably stiff, it's ugly.  Give me some good old luddite buttons
>> or ties any day.
>
>I like the idea of a luddite button. Push it and the chaminery automatically
>falls apart.
>

Sigh .. chaminery could so easily be a proper word for ladies clothing,
and I thought it was at first.
-- 
Roger Hunt
Date:Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:17:30 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
The message 
from Richard Robinson  contains these words:


> I like the idea of a luddite button. Push it and the chaminery automatically
> falls apart.


Ah - like the starter on a Marina?

-- 
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
Date:Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:35:08 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On or around Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:35:08 +0100, Guy King
 enlightened us thusly:


>The message 
>from Richard Robinson  contains these words:
>
>> I like the idea of a luddite button. Push it and the chaminery automatically
>> falls apart.
>
>Ah - like the starter on a Marina?


I notice that in amongst all the files on the LDV manual CD I just bought
are one for the 1.8 diseasel engine.  Bet there ain't many of them left on
the road.

-- 
Austin Shackles.  www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk  my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in 
Boswell's "Johnson".
Date:Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:53:17 +0100   Author:  

Re: VELCRO   
On or around Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:42:37 GMT, Thomas Rushton
 enlightened us thusly:


>JonG wrote:
>
>> Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>> 
>>> Hmmm. From another place:
>>> 
>>> That Touch Of VELCRO
>> 
>> [snippetry]
>> 
>> All I can say to that is "Portacabin".
>
>May I correct your speling?  It's "Portakabin".  According to the one 
>I'm sitting in at the moment, anyway...


arbut, only if it's a genuine one.

-- 
Austin Shackles.  www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk  my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in 
Boswell's "Johnson".
Date:Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:54:42 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:00:18 -0000, Richard Robinson
 wrote:


>Holly G Pence said:
>>
>> uncomfortably stiff, it's ugly.  Give me some good old luddite buttons
>> or ties any day.
>
>I like the idea of a luddite button. Push it and the chaminery automatically
>falls apart.


IRTA:- "chimney".

-- 
Frank Erskine
MJBC, OETKBC
Date:Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:14:05 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Frank Erskine said:

> On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:00:18 -0000, Richard Robinson
>>Holly G Pence said:
>>>
>>> uncomfortably stiff, it's ugly.  Give me some good old luddite buttons
>>> or ties any day.
>>
>>I like the idea of a luddite button. Push it and the chaminery automatically
>>falls apart.
>
> IRTA:- "chimney".


Well, yes, I expect that could be got to jbex. Or to notjbex, which would be
what was required, and therefore considered as jbexvat. Which, of course
would lead it to be considered broken. Can't lose, really.

"Do Not Push This Button If You're Cold".

-- 
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

If you want my address, put unmail2 where the spam trap is.
Date:Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:59:09 -0000   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Richard Robinson said:

> Frank Erskine said:
>> On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:00:18 -0000, Richard Robinson
>>>Holly G Pence said:
>>>>
>>>> uncomfortably stiff, it's ugly.  Give me some good old luddite buttons
>>>> or ties any day.
>>>
>>>I like the idea of a luddite button. Push it and the chaminery automatically
>>>falls apart.
>>
>> IRTA:- "chimney".
>
> Well, yes, I expect that could be got to jbex. Or to notjbex, which would be
> what was required, and therefore considered as jbexvat. Which, of course
> would lead it to be considered broken. Can't lose, really.
>
> "Do Not Push This Button If You're Cold".


Curses.

TSOCR "Do Not Push This Button If You're Cold, or Standing *Here*".


-- 
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

If you want my address, put unmail2 where the spam trap is.
Date:Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:08:08 -0000   Author:  

VELCRO®Re:   
Thomas Rushton wrote:


>>
>>All I can say to that is "Portacabin".
> 
> 
> May I correct your speling?  It's "Portakabin".  According to the one 
> I'm sitting in at the moment, anyway...
> 


Well, my reply was inspired by a very pompous letter to Private Eye from 
someone on behalf of Portakabin after the Eye had hfrq the word 
Portacabin. Seemingly this bloke, or perhaps his entire department, 
scour the Yookay print media and write pompous letters about how 
Portakabin is a trademark, and unless the item being refered to is a 
genuine Protakabin, then it should be referred to as, IIRC, a Sectional 
Building. The Eye printed his letter, and headed both that one and every 
other letter that fortnight "Portacabin".

-- 

JonG  (Self -Preservation Society No. 37 3/4)

The Shed: A Shelter from Pigs on the Wing
Date:Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:31:01 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
In article , Austin 
Shackles said...

> On or around Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:35:08 +0100, Guy King
>  enlightened us thusly:
> 
> >The message 
> >from Richard Robinson  contains these words:
> >
> >> I like the idea of a luddite button. Push it and the chaminery automatically
> >> falls apart.
> >
> >Ah - like the starter on a Marina?
> 
> I notice that in amongst all the files on the LDV manual CD I just bought
> are one for the 1.8 diseasel engine.  Bet there ain't many of them left on
> the road.
> 

What's Murgatroyd?  In't that around that size?

-- 
I try to be a good example to my children, but they just see me as a 
dire warning.
Date:Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:52:24 +0100   Author:  

VELCRO®Re:   
In article <42b081e6$0$2063$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net>, JonG 
said...

> > May I correct your speling?  It's "Portakabin".  According to the one 
> > I'm sitting in at the moment, anyway...
> > 
> 
> Well, my reply was inspired by a very pompous letter to Private Eye from 
> someone on behalf of Portakabin after the Eye had hfrq the word 
> Portacabin.
> 

Aye, I unforgets that one.  Very pompous and totally unnecessary, but 
hey, the chap's got to molish a living somehow I suppose.
-- 
I try to be a good example to my children, but they just see me as a 
dire warning.
Date:Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:54:05 +0100   Author:  

Re: VELCRO   
In uk.rec.sheds,  (JonG) wrote in
<42b081e6$0$2063$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net>::


>Thomas Rushton wrote:
>
>>>
>>>All I can say to that is "Portacabin".
>> 
>> 
>> May I correct your speling?  It's "Portakabin".  According to the one 
>> I'm sitting in at the moment, anyway...
>> 
>
>Well, my reply was inspired by a very pompous letter to Private Eye from 
>someone on behalf of Portakabin after the Eye had hfrq the word 
>Portacabin. Seemingly this bloke, or perhaps his entire department, 
>scour the Yookay print media and write pompous letters about how 
>Portakabin is a trademark, and unless the item being refered to is a 
>genuine Protakabin, then it should be referred to as, IIRC, a Sectional 
>Building. The Eye printed his letter, and headed both that one and every 
>other letter that fortnight "Portacabin".


While that *was* very funny at the time, I confess to a certain sympathy
for such people- it's a wbo, after all.  If you have a registered
trademark, you are obliged by the rules to "defend" it.  If it becomes a
common noun by usage, you can lose the ability to sue for infringement.
-- 
Marc

Good literature is about Love and War. Junk fiction is about Sex 
and Violence. (Ofer Inbar)
Date:Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:01:38 +0100   Author:  

Re: VELCRO   
On 15 Jun,  
     Marc Wilson  wrote:



> While that *was* very funny at the time, I confess to a certain sympathy
> for such people- it's a wbo, after all.  If you have a registered
> trademark, you are obliged by the rules to "defend" it.  If it becomes a
> common noun by usage, you can lose the ability to sue for infringement.


I unforgets when jbexing for a subdivision of the broken biscuit company
regularly getting solicitors letters asking for an explanation as to why we
were trading under their name. Also why we hadn't got wwp licences. The left
hand.........
 
-- 
Brn [13435]
[13435]Change lycos to yahoo to reply.
       I've always believed that the population is more dense in the 
       South of England.
Date:Thu, 16 Jun 2005 00:28:50 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
The message 
from Sena  contains these words:


> What's Murgatroyd?  In't that around that size?


2 ltr Perkins Prima.

-- 
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
Date:Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:08:03 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
In article , Guy King said...

> The message 
> from Sena  contains these words:
> 
> > What's Murgatroyd?  In't that around that size?
> 
> 2 ltr Perkins Prima.
> 

So around 1.9 then?

-- 
I try to be a good example to my children, but they just see me as a 
dire warning.
Date:Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:01:27 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On or around Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:52:24 +0100, Sena 
enlightened us thusly:


>In article , Austin 
>Shackles said...
>> On or around Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:35:08 +0100, Guy King
>>  enlightened us thusly:
>> 
>> >The message 
>> >from Richard Robinson  contains these words:
>> >
>> >> I like the idea of a luddite button. Push it and the chaminery automatically
>> >> falls apart.
>> >
>> >Ah - like the starter on a Marina?
>> 
>> I notice that in amongst all the files on the LDV manual CD I just bought
>> are one for the 1.8 diseasel engine.  Bet there ain't many of them left on
>> the road.
>> 
>What's Murgatroyd?  In't that around that size?


nah. perkins prima diesel.  Got the manual for that an' all.
-- 
Austin Shackles.  www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk  my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in 
Boswell's "Johnson".
Date:Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:17:25 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Austin Shackles wrote:


> I notice that in amongst all the files on the LDV manual CD I just
> bought are one for the 1.8 diseasel engine.  Bet there ain't many of
> them left on the road.


1.5 and 1.8 "BMC" diseasels are still very common in boats, thobut I dunno
if it's the same one.

-- 
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
It is impossible to eat a banana without looking like a tw*t.
Date:Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:51:23 +0100   Author:  

Re: VELCRO   
JonG wrote:


> Well, my reply was inspired by a very pompous letter to Private Eye
> from someone on behalf of Portakabin after the Eye had hfrq the word
> Portacabin. Seemingly this bloke, or perhaps his entire department,
> scour the Yookay print media and write pompous letters about how
> Portakabin is a trademark, and unless the item being refered to is a
> genuine Protakabin, then it should be referred to as, IIRC, a
> Sectional Building. The Eye printed his letter, and headed both that
> one and every other letter that fortnight "Portacabin".


A Munchkin in the employ of Bic sent a similar strop-o-gram to "CAR"
magazine chastising them for their use of the word "biro" instead of
"ball-point pen".  The reaction was not dissimilar either.

-- 
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
It would appear apparent, to me at least, that dinosaurs were largely
burrowing creatures.
Date:Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:54:07 +0100   Author:  

Re: VELCRO   
In uk.rec.sheds,  (Dave Larrington) wrote in
::


>JonG wrote:
>
>> Well, my reply was inspired by a very pompous letter to Private Eye
>> from someone on behalf of Portakabin after the Eye had hfrq the word
>> Portacabin. Seemingly this bloke, or perhaps his entire department,
>> scour the Yookay print media and write pompous letters about how
>> Portakabin is a trademark, and unless the item being refered to is a
>> genuine Protakabin, then it should be referred to as, IIRC, a
>> Sectional Building. The Eye printed his letter, and headed both that
>> one and every other letter that fortnight "Portacabin".
>
>A Munchkin in the employ of Bic sent a similar strop-o-gram to "CAR"
>magazine chastising them for their use of the word "biro" instead of
>"ball-point pen".  The reaction was not dissimilar either.


Opposite problem, there.  In Senapr, the eponymous word is "bic", and they
know not of Laszlo Biro[1] and his works. Bic are irritated that anyone
should give the opposition a free leg-up.  

Micturating in a contrary airflow, if you ask me.

[1] Pron. more like "beer-o", IIRC.
-- 
Marc

Why does the Pygmy 
Indulge in polygmy? 
 His tribal dogma 
 Frowns on  monogma. 
 Monogma's a stigma 
 For any Pygma. 
 If he sticks to monogmy 
 A Pygmy's a hogmy. (Ogden Nash, "The Third Jungle Book")
Date:Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:33:47 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On or around Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:01:27 +0100, Sena 
enlightened us thusly:


>In article , Guy King said...
>> The message 
>> from Sena  contains these words:
>> 
>> > What's Murgatroyd?  In't that around that size?
>> 
>> 2 ltr Perkins Prima.
>> 
>So around 1.9 then?


1994 cc according to the book.

-- 
Austin Shackles.  www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk  my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in 
Boswell's "Johnson".
Date:Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:09:31 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On or around Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:51:23 +0100, "Dave Larrington"
 enlightened us thusly:


>Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>> I notice that in amongst all the files on the LDV manual CD I just
>> bought are one for the 1.8 diseasel engine.  Bet there ain't many of
>> them left on the road.
>
>1.5 and 1.8 "BMC" diseasels are still very common in boats, thobut I dunno
>if it's the same one.


yep, I spect so.  the 1.8 was derived from the 1.8 petrol engine, with a
modified block.  I had one once, dog slow thing; used to hfr a lot of
"downhill overdrive".

-- 
Austin Shackles.  www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk  my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in 
Boswell's "Johnson".
Date:Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:10:42 +0100   Author:  

Re: VELCRO   
On or around Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:33:47 +0100, Marc Wilson
 enlightened us thusly:


>Micturating in a contrary airflow, if you ask me.


git.  almost got coffee on the keyborad.

-- 
Austin Shackles.  www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk  my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in 
Boswell's "Johnson".
Date:Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:11:24 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
The message 
from Austin Shackles  contains these words:


> 1994 cc according to the book.


Or that.

-- 
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
Date:Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:47:10 +0100   Author:  

Re: VELCRO   
The message 
from "Dave Larrington"  contains these words:


> A Munchkin in the employ of Bic sent a similar strop-o-gram to "CAR"


IRTA strap-on-orgasm.

-- 
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
Date:Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:46:34 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
The message 
from Sena  contains these words:


> > 2 ltr Perkins Prima.
> > 
> So around 1.9 then?


1998.

-- 
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
Date:Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:46:53 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
In message , Richard Robinson 
 writes

>Holly G Pence said:
>>
>> uncomfortably stiff, it's ugly.  Give me some good old luddite buttons
>> or ties any day.
>
>I like the idea of a luddite button. Push it and the chaminery automatically
>falls apart.
>


Had a Renault Savanna with one of those. Never which button it was, 
though.

-- 
Peter Thomas
Date:Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:40:37 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
In message , Holly G Pence 
 writes
snip


>For the guitar-ensemble class I take, I copy all the pages of a piece
>to single sides, then tape them together into one long scroll so I
>don't have to do any page-turns.  Then I take a highlighter and mark
>out my parts in fluorescent yellow or pink.
>
>I still skip onto the wrong line from time to time.  Brian's perverse,
>innit.


Absolutely. The class has persuaded our tutor that if he gives us a 
21-page piece, it isn't all going to get played. Currently on eight-page 
version of Allman Brothers' 'Jessica' [Top Gear sig tune for us locals] 
and fast reverting to S R Vaughan's 'Sweet Child of Mine' for EoT 
thingy.

Presumably your bit has enough rests to allow page-shuffling?
-- 
Peter Thomas
Date:Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:39:45 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Peter Thomas said:

> In message , Richard Robinson 
> writes
>>Holly G Pence said:
>>>
>>> uncomfortably stiff, it's ugly.  Give me some good old luddite buttons
>>> or ties any day.
>>
>>I like the idea of a luddite button. Push it and the chaminery automatically
>>falls apart.
>>
>
> Had a Renault Savanna with one of those. Never which button it was, 
> though.


Ah, well, that's even luddite-er [1], isn't it ?

[1] ludderite ? Nah, that's a mineral. Probbaly what you molish the buttons
out of.

-- 
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

If you want my address, put unmail2 where the spam trap is.
Date:Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:01:31 -0000   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
In message , Richard Robinson 
 writes

>Peter Thomas said:
>> In message , Richard Robinson
>> writes
>>>Holly G Pence said:
>>>>
>>>> uncomfortably stiff, it's ugly.  Give me some good old luddite buttons
>>>> or ties any day.
>>>
>>>I like the idea of a luddite button. Push it and the chaminery automatically
>>>falls apart.
>>>
>>
>> Had a Renault Savanna with one of those. Never which button it was,
>> though.
>
>Ah, well, that's even luddite-er [1], isn't it ?
>
>[1] ludderite ? Nah, that's a mineral. Probbaly what you molish the buttons
>out of.
>

There was the 286 keyboard with the button clearly labelled 'Qbrf 
abguvat'. Speaking of which, I have just found a previously un-noticed 
and undecipherable button on the Compaq board, which seems to equate to 
right mouse-click. Only been using this chamine since early '01.
-- 
Peter Thomas
Date:Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:25:13 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
In article , Austin 
Shackles said...

> On or around Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:01:27 +0100, Sena 
> enlightened us thusly:
> 
> >In article , Guy King said...
> >> The message 
> >> from Sena  contains these words:
> >> 
> >> > What's Murgatroyd?  In't that around that size?
> >> 
> >> 2 ltr Perkins Prima.
> >> 
> >So around 1.9 then?
> 
> 1994 cc according to the book.
> 

TY.

-- 
I try to be a good example to my children, but they just see me as a 
dire warning.
Date:Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:05:09 +0100   Author:  

Re: VELCRO   
Marc Wilson typed



> In uk.rec.sheds,  (Dave Larrington) wrote in
> ::

> >JonG wrote:
> >
> >> Well, my reply was inspired by a very pompous letter to Private Eye
> >> from someone on behalf of Portakabin after the Eye had hfrq the word
> >> Portacabin. Seemingly this bloke, or perhaps his entire department,
> >> scour the Yookay print media and write pompous letters about how
> >> Portakabin is a trademark, and unless the item being refered to is a
> >> genuine Protakabin, then it should be referred to as, IIRC, a
> >> Sectional Building. The Eye printed his letter, and headed both that
> >> one and every other letter that fortnight "Portacabin".
> >
> >A Munchkin in the employ of Bic sent a similar strop-o-gram to "CAR"
> >magazine chastising them for their use of the word "biro" instead of
> >"ball-point pen".  The reaction was not dissimilar either.

> Opposite problem, there.  In Senapr, the eponymous word is "bic", and they
> know not of Laszlo Biro[1] and his works. Bic are irritated that anyone
> should give the opposition a free leg-up.  

> Micturating in a contrary airflow, if you ask me.

> [1] Pron. more like "beer-o", IIRC.


Didn't Bic take over Biro?

-- 
Helen D. Vecht: helenvecht@zetnet.co.uk
Edgware.
Date:Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:03:57 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:39:45 +0100, Peter Thomas
<peterdoubled@doubledemon.co.uk.invalid> wrote:


>In message , Holly G Pence 
> writes
>snip
>
>>For the guitar-ensemble class I take, I copy all the pages of a piece
>>to single sides, then tape them together into one long scroll so I
>>don't have to do any page-turns.  Then I take a highlighter and mark
>>out my parts in fluorescent yellow or pink.
>>
>>I still skip onto the wrong line from time to time.  Brian's perverse,
>>innit.
>
>Absolutely. The class has persuaded our tutor that if he gives us a 
>21-page piece, it isn't all going to get played. Currently on eight-page 
>version of Allman Brothers' 'Jessica' [Top Gear sig tune for us locals] 
>and fast reverting to S R Vaughan's 'Sweet Child of Mine' for EoT 
>thingy.
>
>Presumably your bit has enough rests to allow page-shuffling?


Not so far.  Fortunately, most of the classical pieces at my level are
two-pagers, so they'll sit manageably on my music stand.  Also, the
stuff is arranged (Maestro isn't *completely* daft) so that all the
parts line up page-wise, i.e. we all turn or nobody does.  We're
jbexvat to perfect our synchronized paper-flapping.


--Holly
Date:Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:47:09 -0700   Author:  

Re: VELCRO   
In uk.rec.sheds,  (Helen Deborah Vecht) wrote in
::



>Didn't Bic take over Biro?


http://www.quido.cz/objevy/propis.a.htm

-- 
Marc

Question _your own_ authority.
Date:Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:16:47 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Peter Thomas said:

> In message , Richard Robinson 
>>
>>[1] ludderite ? Nah, that's a mineral. Probbaly what you molish the buttons
>>out of.
>>
> There was the 286 keyboard with the button clearly labelled 'Qbrf 
> abguvat'.

Cor. Impressed.


>           Speaking of which, I have just found a previously un-noticed 
> and undecipherable button on the Compaq board, which seems to equate to 
> right mouse-click. Only been using this chamine since early '01.


Mine has one with a "Jvaqbjf" logo, but I don't get that when I push it.
Lucky, really.

-- 
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

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Date:Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:24:32 -0000   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:28:07 +0100, M Rimmer 
wrote:


>It's pretty common in my choir, although I got a shock when one fell off 
>before a concert and I couldn't find the page so I was singing the 
>Hostias from Mozart's Requiem whilst looking at the Sanctus.


You mean you can't sing the Mozart Requiem from memory?  For shame!

Guy
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Date:Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:50:01 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
In message , "Just zis Guy, 
you know?"  writes

>On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:28:07 +0100, M Rimmer 
>wrote:
>
>>It's pretty common in my choir, although I got a shock when one fell off
>>before a concert and I couldn't find the page so I was singing the
>>Hostias from Mozart's Requiem whilst looking at the Sanctus.
>
>You mean you can't sing the Mozart Requiem from memory?  For shame!


I can and did. Actually, I was racing through it in my mind to check I 
knew it all from memory, and I decided I was fine until the point where 
it goes into a fugue "quam olim Abrahae", but fortunately we stopped 
there.
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Date:Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:52:55 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
"Just zis Guy, you know?" typed



> On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:28:07 +0100, M Rimmer 
> wrote:

> >It's pretty common in my choir, although I got a shock when one fell off 
> >before a concert and I couldn't find the page so I was singing the 
> >Hostias from Mozart's Requiem whilst looking at the Sanctus.

> You mean you can't sing the Mozart Requiem from memory?  For shame!

> Guy


It gets more difficult iffn you've done more than one voice, as I have...

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Date:Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:50:11 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:50:11 +0100, Helen Deborah Vecht
 wrote:


>> You mean you can't sing the Mozart Requiem from memory?  For shame!

>It gets more difficult iffn you've done more than one voice, as I have...


I 'spect I can beat you on that, having sung it as both first sop and
second bass :-)

These days I am much more of a baritone or first bass - E below to G#
above the bass clef.

Guy
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Date:Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:52:35 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
"Just zis Guy, you know?" typed



> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:50:11 +0100, Helen Deborah Vecht
>  wrote:

> >> You mean you can't sing the Mozart Requiem from memory?  For shame!

> >It gets more difficult iffn you've done more than one voice, as I have...

> I 'spect I can beat you on that, having sung it as both first sop and
> second bass :-)

> These days I am much more of a baritone or first bass - E below to G#
> above the bass clef.

> Guy


That am a good range for a blerk. I are all range and no quality, about
3 octaves of it, delimited by Cs...

So sometimes I sing sop and sometimes I sing tenner.

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Date:Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:59:28 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:59:28 +0100, Helen Deborah Vecht
 wrote:


>> These days I am much more of a baritone or first bass - E below to G#
>> above the bass clef.

>That am a good range for a blerk. I are all range and no quality, about
>3 octaves of it, delimited by Cs...


Ah, well, I can do quantity better than quality as a rule.  But the
range seems to be expanding still - I think there is an A in there
somewhere, and maybe even a B if I can bring myself to risk it.

Carmina Burana here I come...

Guy
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Date:Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:33:17 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:


> Carmina Burana here I come...


I've already bagsied the tenor solo!


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Thomas Rushton
Leeds, UK
Date:Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:05:06 GMT   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
The message <1119355508.96c7d8fa10aee5c44eeb6467859e0ebe@teranews>
from Thomas Rushton  contains these words:


> > Carmina Burana here I come...

> I've already bagsied the tenor solo!


And laid in stocks of tuna?

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Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
Date:Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:37:58 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:05:06 GMT, Thomas Rushton
 wrote:


>> Carmina Burana here I come...
>I've already bagsied the tenor solo!


You are be welcome to it.  Baritono for me, I think.

Now there's an idea for a Shedmoot...

Guy
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Date:Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:04:49 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
"Just zis Guy, you know?" typed



> On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:59:28 +0100, Helen Deborah Vecht
>  wrote:

> >> These days I am much more of a baritone or first bass - E below to G#
> >> above the bass clef.

> >That am a good range for a blerk. I are all range and no quality, about
> >3 octaves of it, delimited by Cs...

> Ah, well, I can do quantity better than quality as a rule.  But the
> range seems to be expanding still - I think there is an A in there
> somewhere, and maybe even a B if I can bring myself to risk it.

> Carmina Burana here I come...

> Guy


Wot, the swan?

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Date:Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:39:36 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Guy King typed



> The message <1119355508.96c7d8fa10aee5c44eeb6467859e0ebe@teranews>
> from Thomas Rushton  contains these words:

> > > Carmina Burana here I come...

> > I've already bagsied the tenor solo!

> And laid in stocks of tuna?


Tuna doesn't stretch the voice. Swans do...

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Date:Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:41:40 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Thomas Rushton typed



> Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:

> > Carmina Burana here I come...

> I've already bagsied the tenor solo!



Not the so high counter-tenor solo?

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Date:Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:40:47 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:05:06 GMT, Thomas Rushton
 wrote:


>Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>
>> Carmina Burana here I come...
>
>I've already bagsied the tenor solo!


IRTA:- "beseiged"

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MJBC, OETKBC
Date:Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:12:13 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
The message 
from Helen Deborah Vecht  contains these words:


> > And laid in stocks of tuna?

> Tuna doesn't stretch the voice. Swans do...


O, for tuna!

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Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
Date:Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:15:57 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:12:13 +0000 (UTC), Frank Erskine
 wrote:


>On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:05:06 GMT, Thomas Rushton
> wrote:
>
>>Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>>
>>> Carmina Burana here I come...
>>
>>I've already bagsied the tenor solo!
>
>IRTA:- "beseiged"

...or even "besieged"

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Date:Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:31:21 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:


> Thomas Rushton typed
> 
>> Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> 
>> > Carmina Burana here I come...
> 
>> I've already bagsied the tenor solo!
> 
> Not the so high counter-tenor solo?


The dying swan bit?  That's a tenor solo, theoretically, and that's 
the one I'm offering.

I reckon he must have ipssed orff his original soloists, when they all 
found out they had to have helium...

ISTR the bass solo goes up to what's normally a tenor G.  And the 
tenor definitely goes up to a top D.  Can't remember what the alto's 
altissimus is, but the sop similarly goes up to a top D...


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Thomas Rushton
Leeds, UK
Date:Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:50:02 GMT   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:05:06 GMT, Thomas Rushton
 wrote:


>Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>
>> Carmina Burana here I come...
>
>I've already bagsied the tenor solo!


Is she a looker?
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Date:Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:50:57 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:31:21 +0000 (UTC), Frank Erskine wrote:


> On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:12:13 +0000 (UTC), Frank Erskine
>  wrote:
> 
> >On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:05:06 GMT, Thomas Rushton
> > wrote:

> >>I've already bagsied the tenor solo!
> >
> >IRTA:- "beseiged"
> ..or even "besieged"


You shouldn't wear your reading glasses to type.

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Date:21 Jun 2005 16:55:53 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
On or around Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:50:02 GMT, Thomas Rushton
 enlightened us thusly:


>Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
>
>> Thomas Rushton typed
>> 
>>> Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>> 
>>> > Carmina Burana here I come...
>> 
>>> I've already bagsied the tenor solo!
>> 
>> Not the so high counter-tenor solo?
>
>The dying swan bit?  That's a tenor solo, theoretically, and that's 
>the one I'm offering.
>
>I reckon he must have ipssed orff his original soloists, when they all 
>found out they had to have helium...
>
>ISTR the bass solo goes up to what's normally a tenor G.  And the 
>tenor definitely goes up to a top D.  Can't remember what the alto's 
>altissimus is, but the sop similarly goes up to a top D...


written for Real Singers, innit.
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Date:Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:34:06 +0100   Author:  

Re: Velcro   
Whitedog wrote:


> On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:05:06 GMT, Thomas Rushton
>  wrote:
> 
>>Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>>
>>> Carmina Burana here I come...
>>
>>I've already bagsied the tenor solo!
> 
> Is she a looker?


It's got beautiful plumage...

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Leeds, UK
Date:Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:59:00 GMT   Author: