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ah seh marra   
whats the history behind that laal castle thingy & 2 nearby chimneys just
outside the Ellis sports ground in wurkinton?
Date:Wed, 8 Jun 2005 17:28:53 +0100   Author:  

Re: ah seh marra   
"aj"  wrote in message 
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> whats the history behind that laal castle thingy & 2 nearby chimneys just
> outside the Ellis sports ground in wurkinton?
>

You referring to Jane Pit? http://www.allerdale.gov.uk/main.asp?page=244 
That ain't no castle!

"Jane Pit is a 19th century coal mine built by Henry Curwen, lord of the 
manor in Workington (see Workington Hall). It is situated adjacent to the 
Sports Ground at Mossbay in Workington. It contains the best surviving 
example of the ornate castellated style of colliery architecture that was a 
feature of the large landowner involvement in the Cumbrian coal industry 
during the nineteenth century. The site is a scheduled ancient monument.

The monument still retains a gin circle and a later steam engine house and 
therefore is a rare example of a coal mine that demonstrates the evolution 
of a horse-powered winding to steam power. The horse gin which provided an 
early means of raising coal up the shaft survives as a circular earthwork 
immediately to the south of the winding engine house. It originally had a 
stone-lined interior and was the location for a gin arm or pole powered by 
two horses that rotated a winding drum to raise coal up the shaft. This 
method of winding was replaced in 1843 when the owner, Henry Curwen, built 
the now roofless engine house to accommodate a steam-powered beam winding 
engine.

Jane Pit operated until the mid-1870s. The mine closed in 1875 when pumping 
was discontinued after the sea broke into the mine entombing 100 miners."

ally
Date:Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:24:00 +0100   Author:  

Re: ah seh marra   
"a l l y"  wrote in message 
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>
> "aj"  wrote in message 
> news:42a71c87_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>> whats the history behind that laal castle thingy & 2 nearby chimneys just
>> outside the Ellis sports ground in wurkinton?
>>
> You referring to Jane Pit? http://www.allerdale.gov.uk/main.asp?page=244 
> That ain't no castle!


8><------------------------------------

> Jane Pit operated until the mid-1870s. The mine closed in 1875 when 
> pumping was discontinued after the sea broke into the mine entombing 100 
> miners."


This was at Isabella pit on the shore, but the water entered the workings of 
Jane pit as well :o(

>
> ally

 I remember as a boy chucking lighted bangers down the mine-shaft at Jane 
Pit (which has long-since been capped).  They made a suitably loud  BANG! 
enhanced by the acoustics.  Upon scraffling up the vent and peering over the 
edge down the shaft - a stupid thing to do, in retrospect - I was greeted by 
the sight of a dead pig and other detritious floating in the water, about 
fifty feet below the surface.

Interestingly, a small, arched tunnel could be seen, branching off to the 
west, about thirty feet down the shaft.

-- 
Regds,

Russell W. B.
http://www.huttonrow.co.uk

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Date:Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:40:32 +0100   Author:  

Re: ah seh marra   
"Russell W. Barnes" <russell dot barnes @ huttonrow dot co dot uk> wrote in 
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> "a l l y"  wrote in message 
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>> "aj"  wrote in message 
>> news:42a71c87_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>> whats the history behind that laal castle thingy & 2 nearby chimneys 
>>> just
>>> outside the Ellis sports ground in wurkinton?
>>>
>> You referring to Jane Pit? http://www.allerdale.gov.uk/main.asp?page=244 
>> That ain't no castle!
>
> 8><------------------------------------
>> Jane Pit operated until the mid-1870s. The mine closed in 1875 when 
>> pumping was discontinued after the sea broke into the mine entombing 100 
>> miners."
>
> This was at Isabella pit on the shore, but the water entered the workings 
> of Jane pit as well :o(


Beggin your puddin'

Isabella pit was flooded on 28th July 1837 - Jane pit wasn't sunk until 
1843; D'oh!
-- 
Regds,

Russell W. B.
http://www.huttonrow.co.uk

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Date:Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:50:33 +0100   Author:  

Re: ah seh marra   
"a l l y"  wrote in message
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> Jane Pit operated until the mid-1870s. The mine closed in 1875 when
pumping
> was discontinued after the sea broke into the mine entombing 100 miners."
>
> ally


The pit ponies went blind and were put out to pasture. Some of them
probabley ended up at Mossbay soap factory (where they made carbolic)

Edith.
Date:Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:11:56 +0200   Author:  

Re: ah seh marra   

> Jane Pit operated until the mid-1870s. The mine closed in 1875 when
pumping
> was discontinued after the sea broke into the mine entombing 100 miners."
>
> ally


You had Jane Pit, Annie Pit and Solway colliery. I walked by them every day
on my way to school. I can't imagine Anniepit without the sandstone tower.

Edith loves home.
Date:Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:14:41 +0200   Author:  

Re: ah seh marra   
"Russell W. Barnes" <russell dot barnes @ huttonrow dot co dot uk> wrote in
message news:dYidneTNWJ9T-


> > Jane Pit operated until the mid-1870s. The mine closed in 1875 when
> > pumping was discontinued after the sea broke into the mine entombing 100
> > miners."
>
> This was at Isabella pit on the shore, but the water entered the workings
of
> Jane pit as well :o(
> >
> > ally
>  I remember as a boy chucking lighted bangers down the mine-shaft at Jane
> Pit (which has long-since been capped).  They made a suitably loud  BANG!
> enhanced by the acoustics.  Upon scraffling up the vent and peering over
the
> edge down the shaft - a stupid thing to do, in retrospect - I was greeted
by
> the sight of a dead pig and other detritious floating in the water, about
> fifty feet below the surface.
>
> Interestingly, a small, arched tunnel could be seen, branching off to the
> west, about thirty feet down the shaft.
>
> Russell W. B.
> http://www.huttonrow.co.uk


D'you think the tunnel ended up on shore. D'you remember what we called the
Germen tunnel, Russell ? with the big iron door hanging down, at Salterbeck
towards town where the slag bank ended with muther's tits. We used to make
thunder when we pulled the door up and let it bang down. What a noise. It
was frightening.

Edith.
Date:Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:21:19 +0200   Author:  

Re: ah seh marra   
"The Traveller"  wrote in message
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> 
> "Russell W. Barnes" <russell dot barnes @ huttonrow dot co dot uk> wrote in
> message news:dYidneTNWJ9T-
> 
> > > Jane Pit operated until the mid-1870s. The mine closed in 1875 when
> > > pumping was discontinued after the sea broke into the mine entombing 100
> > > miners."
> >
> > This was at Isabella pit on the shore, but the water entered the workings
> of
> > Jane pit as well :o(
> > >
> > > ally
> >  I remember as a boy chucking lighted bangers down the mine-shaft at Jane
> > Pit (which has long-since been capped).  They made a suitably loud  BANG!
> > enhanced by the acoustics.  Upon scraffling up the vent and peering over
> the
> > edge down the shaft - a stupid thing to do, in retrospect - I was greeted
> by
> > the sight of a dead pig and other detritious floating in the water, about
> > fifty feet below the surface.
> >
> > Interestingly, a small, arched tunnel could be seen, branching off to the
> > west, about thirty feet down the shaft.
> >
> > Russell W. B.
> > http://www.huttonrow.co.uk
> 
> D'you think the tunnel ended up on shore. D'you remember what we called the
> Germen tunnel, Russell ? with the big iron door hanging down, at Salterbeck
> towards town where the slag bank ended with muther's tits. We used to make
> thunder when we pulled the door up and let it bang down. What a noise. It
> was frightening.
> 
> Edith.


The German Tunnel was dug by German P's.O.W brought down from Kirkland
POW camp near Ennerdale, and by locally-kept Ps.O.W.  ISTR it was
built to carry a sewerage-pipe through the slag-bank.  I never got up to
the vertical shaft, as the stench was always too strong.  We used to
swim (and I have mentioned this before) in the furnace-cooling water
outfall near the end of the Geman tunnel, amongst the turds and
jelly-fish; a process known as 'going through the motions...'

'Mother's Tits' was further south, at the end of the old Moss Bay
slag-bank.  There was a small pill-box there built from furnace
refractory bricks, and a lewis-gun.  It was manned by the Home-Guard and
by a detachment of the Cheshire Regiment, who were billeted at the end
of Shore Road, in huts which were later to become Salterbeck Boys' Club.
The pill-box and gun was accessed by some steps cut into the side of the
slag-bank, which looked like a surreal staircase in the side of a hill.

The little tunnel down Jane Pit was probably an air-duct, being so near
the
surface, used with the aid of a 'Brattish' (Brattice) to direct clean
air into the mine.  The shaft sunk to about 70 fathoms (420 feet).  It
probably surfaced nearby.

At the entrance-road to the Ellis sports-ground (the road off Moss-bay 
road), stood a steel pipe about the height of a lamp-post.  It might
be still there for all I know.  It was a gas-outlet for - I think -
Buddle Pit, which was on this site.
--

Regds,

Russell W. B.
http://www.huttonrow.co.uk





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Date:Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:15:10 +0000 (UTC)   Author:  

Re: ah seh marra   
"a l l y"  wrote in message
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>
> "aj"  wrote in message
> news:42a71c87_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> > whats the history behind that laal castle thingy & 2 nearby chimneys
just
> > outside the Ellis sports ground in wurkinton?
> >
> You referring to Jane Pit? http://www.allerdale.gov.uk/main.asp?page=244
> That ain't no castle!
>
> "Jane Pit is a 19th century coal mine built by Henry Curwen, lord of the
> manor in Workington (see Workington Hall). It is situated adjacent to the
> Sports Ground at Mossbay in Workington. It contains the best surviving
> example of the ornate castellated style of colliery architecture that was
a
> feature of the large landowner involvement in the Cumbrian coal industry
> during the nineteenth century. The site is a scheduled ancient monument.
>
> The monument still retains a gin circle and a later steam engine house and
> therefore is a rare example of a coal mine that demonstrates the evolution
> of a horse-powered winding to steam power. The horse gin which provided an
> early means of raising coal up the shaft survives as a circular earthwork
> immediately to the south of the winding engine house. It originally had a
> stone-lined interior and was the location for a gin arm or pole powered by
> two horses that rotated a winding drum to raise coal up the shaft. This
> method of winding was replaced in 1843 when the owner, Henry Curwen, built
> the now roofless engine house to accommodate a steam-powered beam winding
> engine.
>
> Jane Pit operated until the mid-1870s. The mine closed in 1875 when
pumping
> was discontinued after the sea broke into the mine entombing 100 miners."
>
> ally
>
>


thanks ally, thats facinating.
Date:Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:35:31 +0100   Author:  

Re: ah seh marra   
"Russell W. Barnes"  wrote in message
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> "The Traveller"  wrote in message
> news:FzRpe.53798$Fe7.159481@news000.worldonline.dk
>
> >
> > "Russell W. Barnes" <russell dot barnes @ huttonrow dot co dot uk> wrote
in
> > message news:dYidneTNWJ9T-
> >
> > > > Jane Pit operated until the mid-1870s. The mine closed in 1875 when
> > > > pumping was discontinued after the sea broke into the mine entombing
100
> > > > miners."
> > >
> > > This was at Isabella pit on the shore, but the water entered the
workings
> > of
> > > Jane pit as well :o(
> > > >
> > > > ally
> > >  I remember as a boy chucking lighted bangers down the mine-shaft at
Jane
> > > Pit (which has long-since been capped).  They made a suitably loud
BANG!
> > > enhanced by the acoustics.  Upon scraffling up the vent and peering
over
> > the
> > > edge down the shaft - a stupid thing to do, in retrospect - I was
greeted
> > by
> > > the sight of a dead pig and other detritious floating in the water,
about
> > > fifty feet below the surface.
> > >
> > > Interestingly, a small, arched tunnel could be seen, branching off to
the
> > > west, about thirty feet down the shaft.
> > >
> > > Russell W. B.
> > > http://www.huttonrow.co.uk
> >
> > D'you think the tunnel ended up on shore. D'you remember what we called
the
> > Germen tunnel, Russell ? with the big iron door hanging down, at
Salterbeck
> > towards town where the slag bank ended with muther's tits. We used to
make
> > thunder when we pulled the door up and let it bang down. What a noise.
It
> > was frightening.
> >
> > Edith.
>
> The German Tunnel was dug by German P's.O.W brought down from Kirkland
> POW camp near Ennerdale, and by locally-kept Ps.O.W.  ISTR it was
> built to carry a sewerage-pipe through the slag-bank.  I never got up to
> the vertical shaft, as the stench was always too strong.  We used to
> swim (and I have mentioned this before) in the furnace-cooling water
> outfall near the end of the Geman tunnel, amongst the turds and
> jelly-fish; a process known as 'going through the motions...'


I used to swim there too, once unwillingly when I got stuck on the
Workington side when the tide came in and caught me off guard (I know this
is all repatition, still fun)

>
> 'Mother's Tits' was further south, at the end of the old Moss Bay
> slag-bank.  There was a small pill-box there built from furnace
> refractory bricks, and a lewis-gun.  It was manned by the Home-Guard and
> by a detachment of the Cheshire Regiment, who were billeted at the end
> of Shore Road, in huts which were later to become Salterbeck Boys' Club.
> The pill-box and gun was accessed by some steps cut into the side of the
> slag-bank, which looked like a surreal staircase in the side of a hill.


I know. I went up there once with two boys-oops-that's not what it sounded
to be.

>
> The little tunnel down Jane Pit was probably an air-duct, being so near
> the
> surface, used with the aid of a 'Brattish' (Brattice) to direct clean
> air into the mine.  The shaft sunk to about 70 fathoms (420 feet).  It
> probably surfaced nearby.
>
> At the entrance-road to the Ellis sports-ground (the road off Moss-bay
> road), stood a steel pipe about the height of a lamp-post.  It might
> be still there for all I know.  It was a gas-outlet for - I think -
> Buddle Pit, which was on this site.
> --
>
> Regds,
>
> Russell W. B.
> http://www.huttonrow.co.uk


I can't remember the pipe but I do remember Victoria Girls' School sports
days and those fabulous carnivals down there,when some good people did all
they could for kids (in those days) I've thrown the discus and run hurdles
for my school on Ellis s.g and I've seen Trotter and Knotty --no, I won't go
in to that.

Edith.
Date:Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:26:43 +0200   Author: