Hi,

I'm pretty new to DIY and am having an new bathroom suite installed and 
would like new tiles around the bath, I can't afford to pay someone to do 
it so I want to have a go myself.

There are old tiles around the bath, and I have tried taking them off but 
they seem to take most of the plaster from the wall of as well, revealing 
wooden strips. The old tiles seem really firmly attached, would it be OK 
just to tile over the old ones? as I don't think I could re plaster the 
wall and would rather not have the expense.

If I can do I need any special tiling adhesives or would regular ones do?, 
also what would I do about the sides of the tiles to finish them off as you 
would be able to see that the two tiles were there and it would be extra 
thick, can you get some sort of trims?.

Also, I've already removed about 4 tiles and have a hole where they were, 
what should I fill it up with to level it up to the tiles I have taken off, 
should I replace the tiles that I have taken off ( I don't have the 
originals as they are in bits but I could get  a few cheap ones) or can I 
just use filler or plaster to make the level up?

Sorry for the length of this post and thanks for reading it, any 
suggestions appreciated,

Julie

New tiles on top of old tiles is OK. It is a very common practise, almost 
obligatory in fact when you consider the alternative. No need to replace the 
old broken tiles, just fill up the holes with plaster.
There may be a different adhesive but I have never seen one.
All kinds of edging strips can be found in most DIY sheds.


"Julie Sinar"  wrote in message 
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| Hi,
|
| I'm pretty new to DIY and am having an new bathroom suite installed and
| would like new tiles around the bath, I can't afford to pay someone to do
| it so I want to have a go myself.
|
| There are old tiles around the bath, and I have tried taking them off but
| they seem to take most of the plaster from the wall of as well, revealing
| wooden strips. The old tiles seem really firmly attached, would it be OK
| just to tile over the old ones? as I don't think I could re plaster the
| wall and would rather not have the expense.
|
| If I can do I need any special tiling adhesives or would regular ones do?,
| also what would I do about the sides of the tiles to finish them off as 
you
| would be able to see that the two tiles were there and it would be extra
| thick, can you get some sort of trims?.
|
| Also, I've already removed about 4 tiles and have a hole where they were,
| what should I fill it up with to level it up to the tiles I have taken 
off,
| should I replace the tiles that I have taken off ( I don't have the
| originals as they are in bits but I could get  a few cheap ones) or can I
| just use filler or plaster to make the level up?
|
| Sorry for the length of this post and thanks for reading it, any
| suggestions appreciated,
|
| Julie
|

Hi Julie

If you have a Topps Tiles near you.....they will give you a free dvd with 
all the info you need for starting to tile.
Its all there..................a real help.

http://www.toppstiles.co.uk

take your time ........think long and hard about setting it out....and 
that's about it .........combined with the right tools.
I bought the basic tools from Topps and have really enjoyed my tiling and 
have made a good job of all projects so far.

As for tiling on top of old tiles ...you can as long as the old ones are 
solidly fixed to the wall....If they are loose or they give off a "hollow 
sound when you tap them (showing that they are not stuck to the wall ) strip 
them off.

good luck

( I'm just taking a break from tiling my bathroom )

Barry
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"Julie Sinar"  wrote in message 
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> Hi,
>
> I'm pretty new to DIY and am having an new bathroom suite installed and 
> would like new tiles around the bath, I can't afford to pay someone to do 
> it so I want to have a go myself.
>
> There are old tiles around the bath, and I have tried taking them off but 
> they seem to take most of the plaster from the wall of as well, revealing 
> wooden strips. The old tiles seem really firmly attached, would it be OK 
> just to tile over the old ones? as I don't think I could re plaster the 
> wall and would rather not have the expense.
>
> If I can do I need any special tiling adhesives or would regular ones do?, 
> also what would I do about the sides of the tiles to finish them off as 
> you would be able to see that the two tiles were there and it would be 
> extra thick, can you get some sort of trims?.
>
> Also, I've already removed about 4 tiles and have a hole where they were, 
> what should I fill it up with to level it up to the tiles I have taken 
> off, should I replace the tiles that I have taken off ( I don't have the 
> originals as they are in bits but I could get  a few cheap ones) or can I 
> just use filler or plaster to make the level up?
>
> Sorry for the length of this post and thanks for reading it, any 
> suggestions appreciated,
>
> Julie
> 

"Julie Sinar"  wrote in message
news:427cb741$0$2053$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...

> Hi,
>
> I'm pretty new to DIY and am having an new bathroom suite installed and
> would like new tiles around the bath, I can't afford to pay someone to do
> it so I want to have a go myself.
>

Snipped>

Julie
Welcome to the art of DIY.

YES you can tile over the old ones, I did it last year and they are still
there!
Clean all the tiles using suger soap so that there isn't any greasy residue,
then paint the tiles with a diluted pva adhesive.  Let everything dry out
and then tile using a waterproof adhesive.
Over the bath calculate where the bottom of the last full tile will be and
fix a level batten the whole length of the wall - now tile from this up as
it will ensure that the tiles won't slip as they are drying.  Use spacers to
be sure of even spacing in all directions.

When you move to other walls just transfer the batten using the base of the
tiles as a guide to make sure you have a level line.

When levelling the batten use a brickies level rather than one of the short
torpedo types.

Do all the full tiles first then finish with the cut ones.

Have fun,
Steve

In our old bathroom, I decided to remove the tiles and make a "Proper job" 
of it. BIG MISTAKE! Pulling the tiles off also pulled a lot of the wall with 
it, and it took quite a long time to remove the tiles and make the wall good 
again. Then I had to start the tiling.....

Recently our neighbour started to revamp her bathroom. She was extremely 
grateful for the suggestion that tiling on the old tiles was a good idea, 
and why!! I'd certainly tile over the existing tiles. Just follow the advice 
already given in this thread and you'll make a really nice job of it.

I'd be inclined to splash out on an electric tile cutter. It doesn't have to 
be an expensive one. You can get them at all the DIY sheds, and they really 
make a neat job of the cuts, and save a lot of breakages when trying to 
score and crack them the traditional way.

David
www.dodgy-diy.net

"David"  wrote in message
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> In our old bathroom, I decided to remove the tiles and make a "Proper job"
> of it. BIG MISTAKE! Pulling the tiles off also pulled a lot of the wall
with
> it, and it took quite a long time to remove the tiles and make the wall
good
> again. Then I had to start the tiling.....
>
> Recently our neighbour started to revamp her bathroom. She was extremely
> grateful for the suggestion that tiling on the old tiles was a good idea,
> and why!! I'd certainly tile over the existing tiles. Just follow the
advice
> already given in this thread and you'll make a really nice job of it.
>
> I'd be inclined to splash out on an electric tile cutter. It doesn't have
to
> be an expensive one. You can get them at all the DIY sheds, and they
really
> make a neat job of the cuts, and save a lot of breakages when trying to
> score and crack them the traditional way.
>
> David
> www.dodgy-diy.net
>


The tool I found was really useful was a ceramic tile cutter blade for the
jigsaw.
As I couldn't easily cahange the position of the sink and radiator I was
able to cut the precise shape needed.  My sink was rounded at the sides so I
cut a template and fixed to the tile, cut around that and it fitted a treat.

Steve

Thanks for all the replies, they were very helpfull, I'm going to go 
ahead putting them on top of the old ones,

Julie