Hi

I just brought a Calibra 16v and the insurers require aThatcham Cat2 fitted 
alarm/immobiliser, what does this mean, do the cars have them fitted as 
standard?? If not, how much are they? Do other insurers require this? and if 
so how did the previous owner become insured?

Sorry for the barrage of questions,any ideas?

Thanks
Kev

Mantorok  wrote:


> Hi
> 
> I just brought a Calibra 16v and the insurers require aThatcham Cat2 fitted
> alarm/immobiliser, what does this mean, do the cars have them fitted as
> standard?? If not, how much are they? Do other insurers require this? and if
> so how did the previous owner become insured?
> 
> Sorry for the barrage of questions,any ideas?


http://www.caralarms-security.co.uk/files/thatcham.htm

Cat 2 is simply an immobiliser. Cat 1 is combined alarm & immobiliser.

Expext to pay around 150 for a Cat 2 immobiliser, and 350 for a Cat 1
alarm/immobiliser. Unfortunately, you cannot self fit these, the
category certificate you require for insurance includes the standard of
fitting - and you need to pass an exam with the individual alarm
manufacturer for that.

Insurance companies are a rule unto themselves, and they can indeed
decide to insist on a Cat 1 or 2 system being fitted as a condition of
the proposal. Some do, some don't, and some may even insist on a
particular brand. You'll need to shop around for the best deals on this
- some make it a condition, and other might offer some discount
(although it'd take years to recoup the cost).

-- 
Andy Hewitt **  FAF#1, (Ex-OSOS#5) - FJ1200 ABS
Honda Civic: Windows free zone (Mac G5 Dual Processor)
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/thehewitts2/index.htm
(updated Feb 21 2005)

Thanks

I've heard that any Vauxhall (from the V-grill onwards) have Cat 2 approved 
immobilisers, I just can't find out where to check if this is correct or 
not.

Kev

"Andy Hewitt"  wrote in message 
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> Mantorok  wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I just brought a Calibra 16v and the insurers require aThatcham Cat2 
>> fitted
>> alarm/immobiliser, what does this mean, do the cars have them fitted as
>> standard?? If not, how much are they? Do other insurers require this? and 
>> if
>> so how did the previous owner become insured?
>>
>> Sorry for the barrage of questions,any ideas?
>
> http://www.caralarms-security.co.uk/files/thatcham.htm
>
> Cat 2 is simply an immobiliser. Cat 1 is combined alarm & immobiliser.
>
> Expext to pay around 150 for a Cat 2 immobiliser, and 350 for a Cat 1
> alarm/immobiliser. Unfortunately, you cannot self fit these, the
> category certificate you require for insurance includes the standard of
> fitting - and you need to pass an exam with the individual alarm
> manufacturer for that.
>
> Insurance companies are a rule unto themselves, and they can indeed
> decide to insist on a Cat 1 or 2 system being fitted as a condition of
> the proposal. Some do, some don't, and some may even insist on a
> particular brand. You'll need to shop around for the best deals on this
> - some make it a condition, and other might offer some discount
> (although it'd take years to recoup the cost).
>
> -- 
> Andy Hewitt **  FAF#1, (Ex-OSOS#5) - FJ1200 ABS
> Honda Civic: Windows free zone (Mac G5 Dual Processor)
> http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/thehewitts2/index.htm
> (updated Feb 21 2005) 

Mantorok  wrote:


> Thanks
> 
> I've heard that any Vauxhall (from the V-grill onwards) have Cat 2 approved
> immobilisers, I just can't find out where to check if this is correct or
> not.


You need to be careful of the differences here. It could have a Cat 2
'standard' of immobiliser, but it doesn't have to be 'approved' by
Thatcham. If it has been 'approved' there should be a certificate
available for presenting to the insurer. Main dealers should keep a
copy.

-- 
Andy Hewitt **  FAF#1, (Ex-OSOS#5) - FJ1200 ABS
Honda Civic: Windows free zone (Mac G5 Dual Processor)
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/thehewitts2/index.htm
(updated Feb 21 2005)

Well, I found this, so there is a chance - 
http://www.clubcalibra.com/section/interactive/forum2002/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=16849&SearchTerms=thatcham,alarm.

Kev

"Andy Hewitt"  wrote in message 
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> Mantorok  wrote:
>
>> Thanks
>>
>> I've heard that any Vauxhall (from the V-grill onwards) have Cat 2 
>> approved
>> immobilisers, I just can't find out where to check if this is correct or
>> not.
>
> You need to be careful of the differences here. It could have a Cat 2
> 'standard' of immobiliser, but it doesn't have to be 'approved' by
> Thatcham. If it has been 'approved' there should be a certificate
> available for presenting to the insurer. Main dealers should keep a
> copy.
>
> -- 
> Andy Hewitt **  FAF#1, (Ex-OSOS#5) - FJ1200 ABS
> Honda Civic: Windows free zone (Mac G5 Dual Processor)
> http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/thehewitts2/index.htm
> (updated Feb 21 2005) 

"Mantorok"  wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> I just brought a Calibra 16v and the insurers require aThatcham Cat2
fitted
> alarm/immobiliser, what does this mean, do the cars have them fitted as
> standard?? If not, how much are they? Do other insurers require this? and
if
> so how did the previous owner become insured?
>
> Sorry for the barrage of questions,any ideas?


Yes. Try another insurance Co.
I doubt if that many Co's require CAT 2 alarms on Calibras.
Mike.

Mantorok  wrote:


> Well, I found this, so there is a chance - 
>

http://www.clubcalibra.com/section/interactive/forum2002/topic.asp?TOPIC
_ID=16849&SearchTerms=thatcham,alarm.

You need to log in for that!

-- 
Andy Hewitt **  FAF#1, (Ex-OSOS#5) - FJ1200 ABS
Honda Civic: Windows free zone (Mac G5 Dual Processor)
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/thehewitts2/index.htm
(updated Feb 21 2005)

In article <4276416d$0$35352$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net>,
   Mike G  wrote:

> Yes. Try another insurance Co.
> I doubt if that many Co's require CAT 2 alarms on Calibras.


Given that modern cars are almost impossible for joyriders without the
keys, slightly older ones are likely to be hit?

-- 
*I'm already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth 

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Just sign up it's free, i had to.

Kev

"Andy Hewitt"  wrote in message 
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> Mantorok  wrote:
>
>> Well, I found this, so there is a chance -
>>
> http://www.clubcalibra.com/section/interactive/forum2002/topic.asp?TOPIC
> _ID=16849&SearchTerms=thatcham,alarm.
>
> You need to log in for that!
>
> -- 
> Andy Hewitt **  FAF#1, (Ex-OSOS#5) - FJ1200 ABS
> Honda Civic: Windows free zone (Mac G5 Dual Processor)
> http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/thehewitts2/index.htm
> (updated Feb 21 2005) 

Mantorok  wrote:


> Just sign up it's free, i had to.
> 
> Kev
> 
> "Andy Hewitt"  wrote in message 
> news:1gvxzmy.yp8mmy1axq1kzN%hairy.biker@spamcop.net...
> > Mantorok  wrote:
> >
> >> Well, I found this, so there is a chance -
> >>
> > http://www.clubcalibra.com/section/interactive/forum2002/topic.asp?TOPIC
> > _ID=16849&SearchTerms=thatcham,alarm.
> >
> > You need to log in for that!


But I don't have a Vauxhall, and have no intentions of getting one ;-)

I'll take your word for it.

Cheers.

-- 
Andy Hewitt **  FAF#1, (Ex-OSOS#5) - FJ1200 ABS
Honda Civic: Windows free zone (Mac G5 Dual Processor)
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/thehewitts2/index.htm
(updated Feb 21 2005)

Hi all

Thanks for responses, I spoke to Thatcham who confirmed that the Calibra's 
have CAT 2 as standard between '94 - '97.

Fucking insurance muppets (Norwich Union) now want the poxy model number??? 
I asked what they meant and they just said it's a number the on 
reg-document, of course, I'm still waiting for them to be returned by the 
DVLA.

Does anyone know what they mean by "Model Number"?? And why on earth didn't 
they know that it was standard in the first place?

Thanks
Kev

"Mantorok"  wrote in message 
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> Hi
>
> I just brought a Calibra 16v and the insurers require aThatcham Cat2 
> fitted alarm/immobiliser, what does this mean, do the cars have them 
> fitted as standard?? If not, how much are they? Do other insurers require 
> this? and if so how did the previous owner become insured?
>
> Sorry for the barrage of questions,any ideas?
>
> Thanks
> Kev
> 

"Mantorok"  wrote in message
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> Hi all
>
> Thanks for responses, I spoke to Thatcham who confirmed that the Calibra's
> have CAT 2 as standard between '94 - '97.
>
> Fucking insurance muppets (Norwich Union) now want the poxy model
number???
> I asked what they meant and they just said it's a number the on
> reg-document, of course, I'm still waiting for them to be returned by the
> DVLA.
>
> Does anyone know what they mean by "Model Number"?? And why on earth
didn't
> they know that it was standard in the first place?
>
> Thanks
> Kev


Defo change the insurance company, I just saved myself a packet by going
through Adrian Flux and all they wanted to know was that I had a CAT 2
immobiliser fitted , what it was (factory), by who (Renault) and when (the
cars approx build date) if it wasn't an aftermarket unit.

Chris