Can I remove white asbestos i.e. Drainpipes ?
and will the local tip take it ?
-- 
Vass

I Would think that you would need to contact your Local Council to answer
that.

"Vass"  wrote in message
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> Can I remove white asbestos i.e. Drainpipes ?
> and will the local tip take it ?
> -- 
> Vass
>
>

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:16:26 +0100, "Vass"
 babbled like a waterfall and
said:


>Can I remove white asbestos i.e. Drainpipes ?
>and will the local tip take it ?


Well, I would not tell anyone official about it or a truck will appear
with people in it, wearing disposable suits and respirators, and your
wallet will feel ill.

Go down your local council tip and look around for one of those lidded
skips labeled asbestos.

That's a good start, then approach one of the site keepers
(Carefully), and ask how it operates. You might get caught, turning up
with a load when the skip has been removed for emptying, and have to
take the whole load away, because they won't keep it. 

Having found you can get rid of it, go home, put a decent mask on and
bash hell out of it, in as eco-friendly manner as you can manage.

Take it to the tip and pray the skip is open.

If anybody (neighbours etc) query it, tell them you have had it
analysed at enormous expense and it just looks like asbestos, but it's
really concrete.

Best of luck.

I have just removed my old garage roof myself I done a search on my local
councils website (Liverpool)
phoned the Mersey waste disposal and have been given an appointment to dump
it free of charge It can only be done on certain days every 3rd Wednesday
and by appointment only also it has to be wrapped in plastic sheeting or
double bagged.

Si

"Vass"  wrote in message
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> Can I remove white asbestos i.e. Drainpipes ?
> and will the local tip take it ?
> -- 
> Vass
>
>

I wouldn't recommend 'bashing hell out of it'. Not an expert but I would
suggest removing and retaining it intact as much as possible seeing as it's
airborne fibres which re the danger. I think that this form of asbestos is
not the most dangerous. I'm sure a bit of web searching would find some
info.

"Simon Rogers"  wrote in message
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> I have just removed my old garage roof myself I done a search on my local
> councils website (Liverpool)
> phoned the Mersey waste disposal and have been given an appointment to
dump
> it free of charge It can only be done on certain days every 3rd Wednesday
> and by appointment only also it has to be wrapped in plastic sheeting or
> double bagged.
>
> Si
>
> "Vass"  wrote in message
> news:yOWdndncffX7Y-3fRVnysQ@eclipse.net.uk...
> > Can I remove white asbestos i.e. Drainpipes ?
> > and will the local tip take it ?
> > -- 
> > Vass
> >
> >
>
>

Would like to echo Johns sentiments...

My grandfather has asbestosis..... caught through years working on building
sites, building houses like yours infact, breathing in airborne
particles....

He has been pretty well screwed for years, but perhaps if less people were
adviced to bash the hell out of it then less people would have to suffer
like my grandfather!

Sorry to sound boring but it aint a nice thing to see... always be carefull
with asbestos, work with your council and do a proper job, half arsed
measures could end up being very costly

Lloyd


"Vass"  wrote in message
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> Can I remove white asbestos i.e. Drainpipes ?
> and will the local tip take it ?
> -- 
> Vass
>
>

John"  wrote in message
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> I wouldn't recommend 'bashing hell out of it'. Not an expert but I would
> suggest removing and retaining it intact as much as possible seeing as
it's
> airborne fibres which re the danger. I think that this form of asbestos is
> not the most dangerous. I'm sure a bit of web searching would find some
> info.
>

CUT
John's right,  you don't bash hell out of asbestos,  don't even saw or drill
it. The type used in rain water guttering and down pipes is not the most
dangerous but all asbestos is now classed as haziest material.  Leave it
whole and double wrap it in Clingfilm for handling and transport. A mask,
disposable coverall suit and gloves are a must.  If your taking the asbestos
to the tip in a car, cover the interior of the vehicle. Not sure if using a
vacuum cleaner is the best way to clean the internals a good idea. Some ones
got to empty it.  For the small amount on a normal house, providing you
stick to the above, it shouldn't harm you. When you've finished throw away
the mask, gloves and disposable suit and have a shower or bath to rid any
particles.

..

Also wet it, and keep it wet whilst handling.
This helps stop fibres/dust blowing off it.

-- 
Andrew Gabriel

One particle caught in your lung can lead to asbestosis some 30 years later. 
So even if you are wearing a mask etc your neighbours arn't, so don't bash 
it, leave it as whole as possible.
Stuart

"Lloyd and Sarah"  wrote in message 
news:UBcce.20082$u5.3945@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...

> Would like to echo Johns sentiments...
>
> My grandfather has asbestosis..... caught through years working on 
> building
> sites, building houses like yours infact, breathing in airborne
> particles....
>
> He has been pretty well screwed for years, but perhaps if less people were
> adviced to bash the hell out of it then less people would have to suffer
> like my grandfather!
>
> Sorry to sound boring but it aint a nice thing to see... always be 
> carefull
> with asbestos, work with your council and do a proper job, half arsed
> measures could end up being very costly
>
> Lloyd
>
>
> "Vass"  wrote in message
> news:yOWdndncffX7Y-3fRVnysQ@eclipse.net.uk...
>> Can I remove white asbestos i.e. Drainpipes ?
>> and will the local tip take it ?
>> -- 
>> Vass
>>
>>
>
> 

On Sun, 1 May 2005 10:53:11 +0100, "Stuart"
 wrote:


>One particle caught in your lung can lead to asbestosis some 30 years later. 
>So even if you are wearing a mask etc your neighbours arn't, so don't bash 
>it, leave it as whole as possible.
>Stuart
>
>"Lloyd and Sarah"  wrote in message 
>news:UBcce.20082$u5.3945@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>> Would like to echo Johns sentiments...
>>
>> My grandfather has asbestosis..... caught through years working on 
>> building
>> sites, building houses like yours infact, breathing in airborne
>> particles....
>>


Snipped.

To limit the possibility of airborne dust, it would be wise to spray
the asbestos with water prior to removal.

Don.

I Stick with my original comment of check with your local council and ignore
advice that could make you or your neighbours ill or get you into a lot of
trouble.

"Don Spumey"  wrote in message
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> On Sun, 1 May 2005 10:53:11 +0100, "Stuart"
>  wrote:
>
> >One particle caught in your lung can lead to asbestosis some 30 years
later.
> >So even if you are wearing a mask etc your neighbours arn't, so don't
bash
> >it, leave it as whole as possible.
> >Stuart
> >
> >"Lloyd and Sarah"  wrote in message
> >news:UBcce.20082$u5.3945@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> >> Would like to echo Johns sentiments...
> >>
> >> My grandfather has asbestosis..... caught through years working on
> >> building
> >> sites, building houses like yours infact, breathing in airborne
> >> particles....
> >>
>
> Snipped.
>
> To limit the possibility of airborne dust, it would be wise to spray
> the asbestos with water prior to removal.
>
> Don.

Lloyd and Sarah wrote:

> Would like to echo Johns sentiments...
>
> My grandfather has asbestosis..... caught through years working on
building
> sites, building houses like yours infact, breathing in airborne
> particles....
>
> He has been pretty well screwed for years, but perhaps if less people
were
> adviced to bash the hell out of it then less people would have to
suffer
> like my grandfather!
>
> Sorry to sound boring but it aint a nice thing to see... always be
carefull
> with asbestos, work with your council and do a proper job, half arsed
> measures could end up being very costly
>
> Lloyd



Unfortunately legislation and the reality do not align too well when it
comes to asbestos disposal. White asbestos is harmless, but blue and
brown are a real risk. In the case of blue or brown I would indeed act
with caution, but white asbestos was more an enhancement to building
safety than a threat.

BTW lots of us live in asbestos buildings, with eg asbestos roofs,
artex, asbestos piping etc... white asbestos that is.


NT

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> White asbestos is harmless, but blue and
> brown are a real risk. In the case of blue or brown I would indeed act
> with caution, but white asbestos was more an enhancement to building
> safety than a threat.


How is white asbestos harmless? That would be a relief to me actually. I
have a family member with a few patches of white asbestos around some heat
ducts.

Olaf wrote:

>  wrote in message
> news:1115253391.555684.22600@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> > White asbestos is harmless, but blue and
> > brown are a real risk. In the case of blue or brown I would indeed
act
> > with caution, but white asbestos was more an enhancement to
building
> > safety than a threat.
>
> How is white asbestos harmless? That would be a relief to me
actually. I
> have a family member with a few patches of white asbestos around some
heat
> ducts.



Heres the latest science on it:
http://www.asbestoswatchdog.co.uk/ACM.pdf
and a more general info site:
www.asbestoswatchdog.co.uk

In short, its blue and brown that are dangerous, but not white. The
1980s report that panicked the nation failed to distinguish between the
efects of the different types of asbestos, which are in reality quite
different materials.


NT