My Potterton floor standing 19 year old boiler has broken down and have been 
told this morning that it is not repairable.
Please tell me if you have any recommndations of floor standing boilers and 
where to buy them from at discounted price?
Thanks.

In article <lqLbe.11440$p06.1202@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>,
	"SH"  writes:

> My Potterton floor standing 19 year old boiler has broken down and have been 
> told this morning that it is not repairable.


Which may well not be true, particularly if the advice came from
British Gas. What model is it, what were the fault symptoms, and
what were you told was broken in it?


> Please tell me if you have any recommndations of floor standing boilers and 
> where to buy them from at discounted price?


Are you intending to install it yourself? Otherwise the installer
will probably source the boiler for you.

If you re-post to uk.d-i-y with all the extra info I mention above,
you will probably gets lots of useful responses.

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"Andrew Gabriel"  wrote in message 
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> In article <lqLbe.11440$p06.1202@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>,
> "SH"  writes:
>> My Potterton floor standing 19 year old boiler has broken down and have 
>> been
>> told this morning that it is not repairable.


If you were told by British gas.................I wonder if a sales person 
will contact you and tell you that a new boiler could be fitted by the 
british Gas team......rapidly ....for a  sum of "x" hundreds or thousands.

I know 3 people who this happened to after they were left high and dry 
without a boiler following a visit by British Gas............and then given 
huge costs for installing a new boiler
using British Gas................putting to one side the issue of whether 
the boilers were repairable or not...they got alternative costs from 
reputable good plumbers locally at almost half the british Gas 
price........so be careful.
I suspect that British Gas are running some interesting incentive schemes 
for their people....their prices, even amongst the plumbing community are 
seen as being  very high indeed.

Barry

>

New regs coming in about now .will insist you have a "efficient " condenser 
boiler.
These boilers cost less to run...........but are more "highly tuned" and 
complex so they will/do break down  more often.
So what you save on gas bills.you will probably spend on call outs and break 
downs.The  "old fashioned boilers" are bullet proof and simple
condenser ones are not favoured by most of the plumbers I know.
But of course they meet new government standards.......that's progress for 
you!

Barry

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"Andrew Gabriel"  wrote in message 
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> In article <lqLbe.11440$p06.1202@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>,
> "SH"  writes:
>> My Potterton floor standing 19 year old boiler has broken down and have 
>> been
>> told this morning that it is not repairable.
>
> Which may well not be true, particularly if the advice came from
> British Gas. What model is it, what were the fault symptoms, and
> what were you told was broken in it?
>
>> Please tell me if you have any recommndations of floor standing boilers 
>> and
>> where to buy them from at discounted price?
>
> Are you intending to install it yourself? Otherwise the installer
> will probably source the boiler for you.
>
> If you re-post to uk.d-i-y with all the extra info I mention above,
> you will probably gets lots of useful responses.
>
> -- 
> Andrew Gabriel 

"bs"  wrote in message 
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> New regs coming in about now .will insist you have a "efficient " 
> condenser boiler.
> These boilers cost less to run...........but are more "highly tuned" and 
> complex so they will/do break down  more often.
> So what you save on gas bills.you will probably spend on call outs and 
> break downs.The  "old fashioned boilers" are bullet proof and simple
> condenser ones are not favoured by most of the plumbers I know.
> But of course they meet new government standards.......that's progress for 
> you!
>
> Barry
>
> -- 
>
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> "Andrew Gabriel"  wrote in message 
> news:426f9125$0$38040$5a6aecb4@news.aaisp.net.uk...
>> In article <lqLbe.11440$p06.1202@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>,
>> "SH"  writes:
>>> My Potterton floor standing 19 year old boiler has broken down and have 
>>> been
>>> told this morning that it is not repairable.
>>
>> Which may well not be true, particularly if the advice came from
>> British Gas. What model is it, what were the fault symptoms, and
>> what were you told was broken in it?
>>
>>> Please tell me if you have any recommndations of floor standing boilers 
>>> and
>>> where to buy them from at discounted price?
>>
>> Are you intending to install it yourself? Otherwise the installer
>> will probably source the boiler for you.
>>
>> If you re-post to uk.d-i-y with all the extra info I mention above,
>> you will probably gets lots of useful responses.
>>
>> -- 
>> Andrew Gabriel
>
>


No it wasn't British Gas.  (I watch Rogue Traders!).  I have an insurance 
with Dom & General and they sent their own chosen plumber round - First 
Response who said that it is up to me as to whether I ask them to fit a new 
boiler.  I now have to wait to hear from the insurance company and see what 
they have to offer.  The fault is "heat exchanger leaking causing seals to 
perish away".
I am doing preliminary research as I have no idea which are the currently 
recommended boilers to replace the aged Potterton Kingfisher (can't see the 
model no. but we have a fairly large 4 bedroom detached house which it has 
coped with very well without any problems for 19 years!).
Thanks for your help.  I shall post on uk.d-i-y when I receive the letter 
from insurance company.  What is the difference between these two 
newsgroups?

"SH"  wrote in message 
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>
> "bs"  wrote in message 
> news:dPidneTPooeTve3fRVnytQ@brightview.com...
>> New regs coming in about now .will insist you have a "efficient " 
>> condenser boiler.
>> These boilers cost less to run...........but are more "highly tuned" and 
>> complex so they will/do break down  more often.
>> So what you save on gas bills.you will probably spend on call outs and 
>> break downs.The  "old fashioned boilers" are bullet proof and simple
>> condenser ones are not favoured by most of the plumbers I know.
>> But of course they meet new government standards.......that's progress 
>> for you!
>>
>> Barry
>>
>> -- 
>>
>>
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>> "Andrew Gabriel"  wrote in message 
>> news:426f9125$0$38040$5a6aecb4@news.aaisp.net.uk...
>>> In article <lqLbe.11440$p06.1202@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>,
>>> "SH"  writes:
>>>> My Potterton floor standing 19 year old boiler has broken down and have 
>>>> been
>>>> told this morning that it is not repairable.
>>>
>>> Which may well not be true, particularly if the advice came from
>>> British Gas. What model is it, what were the fault symptoms, and
>>> what were you told was broken in it?
>>>
>>>> Please tell me if you have any recommndations of floor standing boilers 
>>>> and
>>>> where to buy them from at discounted price?
>>>
>>> Are you intending to install it yourself? Otherwise the installer
>>> will probably source the boiler for you.
>>>
>>> If you re-post to uk.d-i-y with all the extra info I mention above,
>>> you will probably gets lots of useful responses.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Andrew Gabriel
>>
>>
>
> No it wasn't British Gas.  (I watch Rogue Traders!).  I have an insurance 
> with Dom & General and they sent their own chosen plumber round - First 
> Response who said that it is up to me as to whether I ask them to fit a 
> new boiler.  I now have to wait to hear from the insurance company and see 
> what they have to offer.  The fault is "heat exchanger leaking causing 
> seals to perish away".
> I am doing preliminary research as I have no idea which are the currently 
> recommended boilers to replace the aged Potterton Kingfisher (can't see 
> the model no. but we have a fairly large 4 bedroom detached house which it 
> has coped with very well without any problems for 19 years!).
> Thanks for your help.  I shall post on uk.d-i-y when I receive the letter 
> from insurance company.  What is the difference between these two 
> newsgroups?
>


It is a Kingfisher RS 100.

new regs brought in april 1st.state that a replacement boiler is to be high
efficiency model (condensing)  usually wall mounted or combi boiler-----very
few floor standing models available now
i concur with earlier messages -----new boilers are very good when they are
working but be prepared for bills for breakdowns

"SH"  wrote in message
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>
> "SH"  wrote in message
> news:LR0ce.19730$u5.13288@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> >
> > "bs"  wrote in message
> > news:dPidneTPooeTve3fRVnytQ@brightview.com...
> >> New regs coming in about now .will insist you have a "efficient "
> >> condenser boiler.
> >> These boilers cost less to run...........but are more "highly tuned"
and
> >> complex so they will/do break down  more often.
> >> So what you save on gas bills.you will probably spend on call outs and
> >> break downs.The  "old fashioned boilers" are bullet proof and simple
> >> condenser ones are not favoured by most of the plumbers I know.
> >> But of course they meet new government standards.......that's progress
> >> for you!
> >>
> >> Barry
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
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> >> "Andrew Gabriel"  wrote in message
> >> news:426f9125$0$38040$5a6aecb4@news.aaisp.net.uk...
> >>> In article <lqLbe.11440$p06.1202@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>,
> >>> "SH"  writes:
> >>>> My Potterton floor standing 19 year old boiler has broken down and
have
> >>>> been
> >>>> told this morning that it is not repairable.
> >>>
> >>> Which may well not be true, particularly if the advice came from
> >>> British Gas. What model is it, what were the fault symptoms, and
> >>> what were you told was broken in it?
> >>>
> >>>> Please tell me if you have any recommndations of floor standing
boilers
> >>>> and
> >>>> where to buy them from at discounted price?
> >>>
> >>> Are you intending to install it yourself? Otherwise the installer
> >>> will probably source the boiler for you.
> >>>
> >>> If you re-post to uk.d-i-y with all the extra info I mention above,
> >>> you will probably gets lots of useful responses.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Andrew Gabriel
> >>
> >>
> >
> > No it wasn't British Gas.  (I watch Rogue Traders!).  I have an
insurance
> > with Dom & General and they sent their own chosen plumber round - First
> > Response who said that it is up to me as to whether I ask them to fit a
> > new boiler.  I now have to wait to hear from the insurance company and
see
> > what they have to offer.  The fault is "heat exchanger leaking causing
> > seals to perish away".
> > I am doing preliminary research as I have no idea which are the
currently
> > recommended boilers to replace the aged Potterton Kingfisher (can't see
> > the model no. but we have a fairly large 4 bedroom detached house which
it
> > has coped with very well without any problems for 19 years!).
> > Thanks for your help.  I shall post on uk.d-i-y when I receive the
letter
> > from insurance company.  What is the difference between these two
> > newsgroups?
> >
>
> It is a Kingfisher RS 100.
>
>

In article <d4rj5p$d9f$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>,
	"jeff stonehouse"  writes:

> new regs brought in april 1st.state that a replacement boiler is to be high
> efficiency model (condensing)  usually wall mounted or combi boiler-----very
> few floor standing models available now
> i concur with earlier messages -----new boilers are very good when they are
> working but be prepared for bills for breakdowns


The early condensing domestic boilers fitted in the UK were
the initial attempts by the UK traditional boiler manufacturers,
and they were poor reliability. However, condensing boilers have
been required in some other EU countries for 10 years, and these
do not have such reliability problems as they were worked out of
the designs many years ago. However, these manufacturers were
not generally known to UK plumbers, and so their products were
not selected. This is becoming less true now, and the UK
manufacturers are ironing out the initial design problems in
their own condensing boilers. Also there's Keston, a UK
manufacturer of large commercial condensing boilers for some
years, who introduced a smaller model for domestic use some 5
years ago, although they don't do a combi version being mainly
a commercial boiler manufacturer.

-- 
Andrew Gabriel