hi have a churchill 25 with a cracked stock can anybody tell me what its
worth as it is and how much to fix will it ever be the same it does have two
silver pots with it and its own case with lots of history if this helps
thanks

"Joe the black dog"  wrote in message 
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> hi have a churchill 25 with a cracked stock can anybody tell me what its
> worth as it is and how much to fix will it ever be the same it does have 
> two
> silver pots with it and its own case with lots of history if this helps
> thanks



Sorry to disappoint you but the cracked stock means it is worth virtually 
nothing. However, as you seem to be a nice sort of bloke I will give you 
twenty quid for it sight unseen, when can I call round and pick it up ?

D.

"dersu"  wrote in message 
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> Sorry to disappoint you but the cracked stock means it is worth virtually 
> nothing. However, as you seem to be a nice sort of bloke I will give you 
> twenty quid for it sight unseen, when can I call round and pick it up ?


Thanks for making me laugh! I'd say a Churchill 25 in good condition would 
run to around 1500 and up for a boxlock, and 5000 and up for a sidelock. 
The cracked stock may well cut the value in half but repairs are possible 
usually. If you get it for 20, well done!

"JJ"  wrote in message 
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>
> "dersu"  wrote in message 
> news:4270815d@clear.net.nz...
>> Sorry to disappoint you but the cracked stock means it is worth virtually 
>> nothing. However, as you seem to be a nice sort of bloke I will give you 
>> twenty quid for it sight unseen, when can I call round and pick it up ?
>
> Thanks for making me laugh! I'd say a Churchill 25 in good condition would 
> run to around 1500 and up for a boxlock, and 5000 and up for a sidelock. 
> The cracked stock may well cut the value in half but repairs are possible 
> usually. If you get it for 20, well done!

We can all hope for a piece of wonderful luck. When I was 15 (some 40 years 
ago) I had lessons with the great Norman Clarke at H&H in Northwood. Clarke, 
as you may well know, was the protg of Robert Churchill and I vividly 
remember one particular lesson when he told me about working for Churchill 
and the development of the 25 inch barrelled guns which were regarded with 
some scepticism at the time because they seemed so short. Clarke rated them 
very highly for their agile handling and told me I would do well to buy such 
a gun if I could afford it. I couldn't then (I subsequently bought a new AYA 
model 4 for 69 pounds 10 shillings) and I can't now I'm sorry to say. These 
days I shoot a Miroku model 70 sport and a Remington 870 light contour but I 
can still dream of owning a Churchill side by side.

D.

"dersu"  wrote in message 
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> can still dream of owning a Churchill side by side.


It seems that the Churchill works for only a small proportion of the 
shooting public, and only those who use the Churchill "method" though it has 
a modern parallel in John Bidwell's "move, mount, shoot" technique. One of 
my uncles, now long departed this mortal coil, had the AYA versions of the 
25, a sidelock each for himself and his elder son, and a boxlock for the 
younger son. I put my Browning O/U in the hands of the latter and he 
couldn't hit a thing with it despite being not too shabby with a 25.

> "Joe the black dog"  wrote in message 
> news:d4fop7$bim$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>> hi have a churchill 25 with a cracked stock can anybody tell me what
>> its worth as it is and how much to fix will it ever be the same it
>> does have two
>> silver pots with it and its own case with lots of history if this
>> helps thanks
> 
> 



As  matter of interest, I tripped over a frozen mole hill holding the 
shotgun I still use (owned by my grandfather who died aged 70 before I was 
born, and I am 65 years of age!). The stock was badly cracked.

My insurance broker assured me the repair would be covered by my household 
insurance. I didn't really believe him so I got my gunmaker to send me a 
receipted invoice before the work was commenced, let alone paid for!

Well, damned if the insurers didn't pay up! So I sent off both gun and 
cheque. The gun came back fitted with a very beautiful walnut stock, far 
better than the original, and I am still using the gun today.

So there you go. A nod is as good as a wink to a blind man. Maybe all is 
not lost.

Derry