After a spate of incidnets to my car and home, I would like to install some 
external cctv cameras, but before I go ahead and purchase them, I would like 
some help.

I need them:-
to be used in the dark.
wide angled lenses.
max 10m range
possibly with sound

I have never had anything to do with cctv before and so would value any 
hints, tips, suggestions before I go and get the wrong things.
-
troubleinstore

Mono best for dark;
try
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Security_Menu_Index/CCTV_1_Index/Adeva_1/index.html

"troubleinstore"  wrote in message 
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> After a spate of incidnets to my car and home, I would like to install 
> some external cctv cameras, but before I go ahead and purchase them, I 
> would like some help.
>
> I need them:-
> to be used in the dark.
> wide angled lenses.
> max 10m range
> possibly with sound


Check out the Maplin site http://www.maplin.co.uk   I think they have 
something for most of the things you want, IR LEDs etc.  Sometimes Aldi and 
Lidl have them as a special offer.  Homebase do Micromark security cameras 
hereabouts.  These have PIR heat sensors and can start a video recorder when 
someone gets in the field of view.

rusty

"troubleinstore"  wrote in message 
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> After a spate of incidnets to my car and home, I would like to install 
> some external cctv cameras, but before I go ahead and purchase them, I 
> would like some help.
>
> I need them:-
> to be used in the dark.
> wide angled lenses.
> max 10m range
> possibly with sound
>
> I have never had anything to do with cctv before and so would value any 
> hints, tips, suggestions before I go and get the wrong things.
> -
> troubleinstore
>
>
>


Try this guy, he is good.

http://www.jex-electronics.com/

"troubleinstore"  wrote in message 
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> After a spate of incidnets to my car and home, I would like to install 
> some external cctv cameras, but before I go ahead and purchase them, I 
> would like some help.
>
> I need them:-
> to be used in the dark.
> wide angled lenses.
> max 10m range
> possibly with sound
>
> I have never had anything to do with cctv before and so would value any 
> hints, tips, suggestions before I go and get the wrong things.
> -
> troubleinstore
>
> I work and specify in the CCTV arena;

as some of the others have said monochrome is much more sensitive in the 
dark, but also is more infra red sensitive than visible light sensitive so 
tends to be used with an IR lamp or IR LEDS for nightime use. You can get 
monochrome cameras with built in LED's however do not expect too geat a 
range with these.
You have not mentioned recording...and this is the bit you won't like. 
Digital video recorders are now predominant in the cctv market however they 
carry realtively high cost. They are hard disk recorders with hard drive 
sizes up to 320GB and beyond if RAID is used, and can record at least one 
channel of audio. However there is a cheaper alternative....if you have a 
home PC fit a TV win card from a company such as Hauppauge which will have a 
composite video input as well as its inbuilt TV tuner. The disadvantage is 
that this method only uses one video channel. In the security you would use 
a multiplexer to record more than one image, however this is at the cost of 
realtime images and the result become more timelapse the more additional 
channels are utilised. Normal VCR's can record composite video (there is a 
pin on the scart lead for this purpose) however you lose at least 1/3 of the 
resolution of the camera and even more on LP. On LP a e240 tape will only 
last 8 hrs, which may be all you need to monitor overnight for trouble.
Most of the digitial video recorders also have event input which may be 
useful to you, by having an input from a infra red motion sensor feeding an 
"event" which will allow you to jump between events on the "event list" to 
find the  active video that you seek.

All of this costs money I know, however that is the true cost of having 
security that works, rather than just paying lips service to it.>

"biggirlsblouse"  wrote in message 
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>
> "troubleinstore"  wrote in message 
> news:d3aj27$dqs$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> After a spate of incidnets to my car and home, I would like to install 
>> some external cctv cameras, but before I go ahead and purchase them, I 
>> would like some help.
>>
>> I need them:-
>> to be used in the dark.
>> wide angled lenses.
>> max 10m range
>> possibly with sound
>>
>> I have never had anything to do with cctv before and so would value any 
>> hints, tips, suggestions before I go and get the wrong things.
>> -
>> troubleinstore
>>
>> I work and specify in the CCTV arena;
> as some of the others have said monochrome is much more sensitive in the 
> dark, but also is more infra red sensitive than visible light sensitive so 
> tends to be used with an IR lamp or IR LEDS for nightime use. You can get 
> monochrome cameras with built in LED's however do not expect too geat a 
> range with these.
> You have not mentioned recording...and this is the bit you won't like. 
> Digital video recorders are now predominant in the cctv market however 
> they carry realtively high cost. They are hard disk recorders with hard 
> drive sizes up to 320GB and beyond if RAID is used, and can record at 
> least one channel of audio. However there is a cheaper alternative....if 
> you have a home PC fit a TV win card from a company such as Hauppauge 
> which will have a composite video input as well as its inbuilt TV tuner. 
> The disadvantage is that this method only uses one video channel. In the 
> security you would use a multiplexer to record more than one image, 
> however this is at the cost of realtime images and the result become more 
> timelapse the more additional channels are utilised. Normal VCR's can 
> record composite video (there is a pin on the scart lead for this purpose) 
> however you lose at least 1/3 of the resolution of the camera and even 
> more on LP. On LP a e240 tape will only last 8 hrs, which may be all you 
> need to monitor overnight for trouble.
> Most of the digitial video recorders also have event input which may be 
> useful to you, by having an input from a infra red motion sensor feeding 
> an "event" which will allow you to jump between events on the "event list" 
> to find the  active video that you seek.
>
> All of this costs money I know, however that is the true cost of having 
> security that works, rather than just paying lips service to it.>
>


There is also a good article on diy cctv cameras in May 2005 issue of 
Computer Shopper

grumble

"biggirlsblouse"  wrote in message 
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>
> "troubleinstore"  wrote in message 
> news:d3aj27$dqs$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> After a spate of incidnets to my car and home, I would like to install 
>> some external cctv cameras, but before I go ahead and purchase them, I 
>> would like some help.
>>
>> I need them:-
>> to be used in the dark.
>> wide angled lenses.
>> max 10m range
>> possibly with sound
>>
>> I have never had anything to do with cctv before and so would value any 
>> hints, tips, suggestions before I go and get the wrong things.
>> -
>> troubleinstore
>>
>> I work and specify in the CCTV arena;
> as some of the others have said monochrome is much more sensitive in the 
> dark, but also is more infra red sensitive than visible light sensitive so 
> tends to be used with an IR lamp or IR LEDS for nightime use. You can get 
> monochrome cameras with built in LED's however do not expect too geat a 
> range with these.
> You have not mentioned recording...and this is the bit you won't like. 
> Digital video recorders are now predominant in the cctv market however 
> they carry realtively high cost. They are hard disk recorders with hard 
> drive sizes up to 320GB and beyond if RAID is used, and can record at 
> least one channel of audio. However there is a cheaper alternative....if 
> you have a home PC fit a TV win card from a company such as Hauppauge 
> which will have a composite video input as well as its inbuilt TV tuner. 
> The disadvantage is that this method only uses one video channel. In the 
> security you would use a multiplexer to record more than one image, 
> however this is at the cost of realtime images and the result become more 
> timelapse the more additional channels are utilised. Normal VCR's can 
> record composite video (there is a pin on the scart lead for this purpose) 
> however you lose at least 1/3 of the resolution of the camera and even 
> more on LP. On LP a e240 tape will only last 8 hrs, which may be all you 
> need to monitor overnight for trouble.
> Most of the digitial video recorders also have event input which may be 
> useful to you, by having an input from a infra red motion sensor feeding 
> an "event" which will allow you to jump between events on the "event list" 
> to find the  active video that you seek.
>
> All of this costs money I know, however that is the true cost of having 
> security that works, rather than just paying lips service to it.>
>


I got a cheap dvr card for my pc from a guy on ebay. Works a treat!

"grumble"  wrote in message 
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>
> "biggirlsblouse"  wrote in message 
> news:Q376e.20547$pA6.1326@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
>>
>> "troubleinstore"  wrote in message 
>> news:d3aj27$dqs$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>> After a spate of incidnets to my car and home, I would like to install 
>>> some external cctv cameras, but before I go ahead and purchase them, I 
>>> would like some help.
>>>
>>> I need them:-
>>> to be used in the dark.
>>> wide angled lenses.
>>> max 10m range
>>> possibly with sound
>>>
>>> I have never had anything to do with cctv before and so would value any 
>>> hints, tips, suggestions before I go and get the wrong things.
>>> -
>>> troubleinstore
>>>
>>> I work and specify in the CCTV arena;
>> as some of the others have said monochrome is much more sensitive in the 
>> dark, but also is more infra red sensitive than visible light sensitive 
>> so tends to be used with an IR lamp or IR LEDS for nightime use. You can 
>> get monochrome cameras with built in LED's however do not expect too geat 
>> a range with these.
>> You have not mentioned recording...and this is the bit you won't like. 
>> Digital video recorders are now predominant in the cctv market however 
>> they carry realtively high cost. They are hard disk recorders with hard 
>> drive sizes up to 320GB and beyond if RAID is used, and can record at 
>> least one channel of audio. However there is a cheaper alternative....if 
>> you have a home PC fit a TV win card from a company such as Hauppauge 
>> which will have a composite video input as well as its inbuilt TV tuner. 
>> The disadvantage is that this method only uses one video channel. In the 
>> security you would use a multiplexer to record more than one image, 
>> however this is at the cost of realtime images and the result become more 
>> timelapse the more additional channels are utilised. Normal VCR's can 
>> record composite video (there is a pin on the scart lead for this 
>> purpose) however you lose at least 1/3 of the resolution of the camera 
>> and even more on LP. On LP a e240 tape will only last 8 hrs, which may be 
>> all you need to monitor overnight for trouble.
>> Most of the digitial video recorders also have event input which may be 
>> useful to you, by having an input from a infra red motion sensor feeding 
>> an "event" which will allow you to jump between events on the "event 
>> list" to find the  active video that you seek.
>>
>> All of this costs money I know, however that is the true cost of having 
>> security that works, rather than just paying lips service to it.>
>>
>
> There is also a good article on diy cctv cameras in May 2005 issue of 
> Computer Shopper
>
> grumble
>I've had two of the Computer Shopper "best buy" Swann cameras, and they are 
>rubbish.  Stay well away from them. 

For something simple look at Argos.  Mine (the Micromart twin)does me a 
treat.