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usefullness of old cement.   
have had some ready mixed cement stored in a shed for about a year or so.

although it's a bit solid, if i scrape at it, it then goes powdery, so i
could mix it up.

could i use this old mix for anything? someone has told me if i do it will
not have much strength? but even so i guess there are little jobs around the
garden that dont require much strength?

is it likely to be of any use please?
Date:Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:41:19 GMT   Author:  

Re: usefullness of old cement.   
jw 111 wrote:

> have had some ready mixed cement stored in a shed for about a year or so.

> 
> could i use this old mix for anything? 
> 
> is it likely to be of any use please?
> 
> 
> 


Not to me.
Date:Tue, 05 Apr 2005 06:55:28 -0700   Author:  

Re: usefullness of old cement.   
G Henslee wrote:

> jw 111 wrote:
>> have had some ready mixed cement stored in a shed for about a year
>> or so.
>
>>
>> could i use this old mix for anything?


    Large paperweight?    It will have very little strength.


>>
>> is it likely to be of any use please?
>>
>>
>>
>
> Not to me.


-- 
Joseph Meehan

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Date:Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:07:47 GMT   Author:  

Re: usefullness of old cement.   
jw 111  wrote:

> have had some ready mixed cement stored in a shed for about a year or so.

> although it's a bit solid, if i scrape at it, it then goes powdery, so i
> could mix it up.

> could i use this old mix for anything? someone has told me if i do it will
> not have much strength? but even so i guess there are little jobs around the
> garden that dont require much strength?

> is it likely to be of any use please?


Yes, it'll still make weak concrete. 



John
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Date:Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:23:48 GMT   Author:  

Re: usefullness of old cement.   
In article <3Aw4e.5734$JO6.4425@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, "jw 111"  wrote:

>have had some ready mixed cement stored in a shed for about a year or so.


Throw it away. It's no good.


>although it's a bit solid, if i scrape at it, it then goes powdery, so i
>could mix it up.


You could mix it up, but it won't have any strength when it sets. You see, 
cement cures by a chemical reaction with the water that's added to it. In your 
bag of old cement, that reaction has already taken place, with humidity in the 
air. You can't make concrete with that stuff. It will set, but it will crumble 
the first time any stress is applied to it.

>
>could i use this old mix for anything? someone has told me if i do it will
>not have much strength? but even so i guess there are little jobs around the
>garden that dont require much strength?


Sure - if your soil is too acidic, you can mix some of that cement into the 
soil to make it more alkaline.

In the winter, if your walk or driveway is covered with ice, you could spread 
some of it around to provide traction, and possibly help melt the ice.

If you have any plants you want to kill, you could dump it on top of them.


>is it likely to be of any use please?


Not for making concrete. Just buy some more. It's cheap.

--
Regards,
        Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
Date:Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:39:14 GMT   Author:  

Re: usefullness of old cement.   
If you have a gravel driveway, just spread it into the gravel with a rake
and let it add to the pavement filler.

If you are setting posts us it at the bottom where it doesn't need strength,
it can act as filler there.

"Doug Miller"  wrote in message
news:Biy4e.20818$zW.12356@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...

> In article <3Aw4e.5734$JO6.4425@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, "jw 111"
 wrote:
> >have had some ready mixed cement stored in a shed for about a year or so.
>
> Throw it away. It's no good.
>
> >although it's a bit solid, if i scrape at it, it then goes powdery, so i
> >could mix it up.
>
> You could mix it up, but it won't have any strength when it sets. You see,
> cement cures by a chemical reaction with the water that's added to it. In
your
> bag of old cement, that reaction has already taken place, with humidity in
the
> air. You can't make concrete with that stuff. It will set, but it will
crumble
> the first time any stress is applied to it.
> >
> >could i use this old mix for anything? someone has told me if i do it
will
> >not have much strength? but even so i guess there are little jobs around
the
> >garden that dont require much strength?
>
> Sure - if your soil is too acidic, you can mix some of that cement into
the
> soil to make it more alkaline.
>
> In the winter, if your walk or driveway is covered with ice, you could
spread
> some of it around to provide traction, and possibly help melt the ice.
>
> If you have any plants you want to kill, you could dump it on top of them.
>
> >is it likely to be of any use please?
>
> Not for making concrete. Just buy some more. It's cheap.
>
> --
> Regards,
>         Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
>
> Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
> And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
Date:Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:16:22 -0400   Author:  

Re: usefullness of old cement.   
jw 111 wrote:


> have had some ready mixed cement stored in a shed for about a year or so.
> 
> although it's a bit solid, if i scrape at it, it then goes powdery, so i
> could mix it up.
> 
> could i use this old mix for anything? someone has told me if i do it will
> not have much strength? but even so i guess there are little jobs around the
> garden that dont require much strength?
> 
> is it likely to be of any use please?
> 
> 
> 

I use this sort of thing to fill woodchuck holes.
Date:Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:01:08 -0400   Author:  

Re: usefullness of old cement.   
"jw 111"  wrote in message 
news:3Aw4e.5734$JO6.4425@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...

> have had some ready mixed cement stored in a shed for about a year or so.
>
> although it's a bit solid, if i scrape at it, it then goes powdery, so i
> could mix it up.
>
> could i use this old mix for anything? someone has told me if i do it will
> not have much strength? but even so i guess there are little jobs around 
> the
> garden that dont require much strength?
>
> is it likely to be of any use please?
>
>
>


You could add more strength to it by mixing it with cement in a ratio of 
perhaps 1 part cement to 8 part ready mix concrete. Make sure you break up 
the ready mix really well first.
Date:Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:02:21 -0700   Author:  

Re: usefullness of old cement.   
If you had kept it indoors then it might be OK after a year, but I
wouldn't push cement in a bag in a house much further than that.
Date:5 Apr 2005 10:14:00 -0700   Author:  

Re: usefullness of old cement.   
You could try selling it to Barratts to go with everything else that's 
substandard about their houses, or you could mix it up and make some half 
pound balls to throw at Tony Blair when he comes round to your area on his 
election campaign. They won't hurt him, they'll just crumble on impact.
In other words, I don't think it'll be any use for much else.
"jw 111"  wrote in message 
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> have had some ready mixed cement stored in a shed for about a year or so.
>
> although it's a bit solid, if i scrape at it, it then goes powdery, so i
> could mix it up.
>
> could i use this old mix for anything? someone has told me if i do it will
> not have much strength? but even so i guess there are little jobs around 
> the
> garden that dont require much strength?
>
> is it likely to be of any use please?
>
>
> 
Date:Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:10:27 +0100   Author:  

Re: usefullness of old cement.   
Fred wrote:

> "jw 111"  wrote in message 
> news:3Aw4e.5734$JO6.4425@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
> 
>>have had some ready mixed cement stored in a shed for about a year or so.
>>
>>although it's a bit solid, if i scrape at it, it then goes powdery, so i
>>could mix it up.
>>
>>could i use this old mix for anything? someone has told me if i do it will
>>not have much strength? but even so i guess there are little jobs around 
>>the
>>garden that dont require much strength?
>>
>>is it likely to be of any use please?
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> You could add more strength to it by mixing it with cement in a ratio of 
> perhaps 1 part cement to 8 part ready mix concrete. Make sure you break up 
> the ready mix really well first. 
> 
> 

I used some old cement with new to make a mix of 9:1 sharp sand/cement 
for bedding flags on. No strenght required there

-- 
Bob H
Leeds UK

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/ContemporaryGifts4U

http://www.betwealthlottery.com/in.asp?MID=AAAA1358
Date:Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:13:21 +0100   Author:  

Re: usefullness of old cement.   
In article <Biy4e.20818$zW.12356@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>,
 spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote:


> You could mix it up, but it won't have any strength when it sets. You see, 
> cement cures by a chemical reaction with the water that's added to it. In 
> your 
> bag of old cement, that reaction has already taken place, with humidity in 
> the 
> air. You can't make concrete with that stuff. It will set, but it will 
> crumble 
> the first time any stress is applied to it.


Just mix it up and make small bricks with it, using cut off milk jugs or 
whatever.  Should work spectacular when hit with a bullet!  ;)

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Date:Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:32:36 -0400   Author:  

Re: usefullness of old cement.   
"Doug Miller"  wrote in message
news:Biy4e.20818$zW.12356@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...

> In article <3Aw4e.5734$JO6.4425@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, "jw 111"
 wrote:
> >have had some ready mixed cement stored in a shed for about a year or so.
>
> Throw it away. It's no good.
>
> >although it's a bit solid, if i scrape at it, it then goes powdery, so i
> >could mix it up.
>
> You could mix it up, but it won't have any strength when it sets. You see,
> cement cures by a chemical reaction with the water that's added to it. In
your
> bag of old cement, that reaction has already taken place, with humidity in
the
> air. You can't make concrete with that stuff. It will set, but it will
crumble
> the first time any stress is applied to it.
> >
> >could i use this old mix for anything? someone has told me if i do it
will
> >not have much strength? but even so i guess there are little jobs around
the
> >garden that dont require much strength?
>
> Sure - if your soil is too acidic, you can mix some of that cement into
the
> soil to make it more alkaline.
>
> In the winter, if your walk or driveway is covered with ice, you could
spread
> some of it around to provide traction, and possibly help melt the ice.
>
> If you have any plants you want to kill, you could dump it on top of them.



LOL!
Date:Wed, 18 May 2005 20:08:26 +0000 (UTC)   Author: