Hello.

I use a humidifier at home especially at the moment in Winter because
the humidity is too low, and it helps my skin.

It causes a lot of condensation though on the windows.  Is there any
way I can prevent condensation without turning off the humidifier?

I have the temperature of my room around 21c and the humidity between
50% and 60% RM (this is comfortable for me and helps my skin). Without
the humidifier it is only at levels between 25% and 38% RM which is a
really low level and causes irritation.

Thanks for any help with this.

John

"John"  wrote in message
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> Hello.
>
> I use a humidifier at home especially at the moment in Winter because
> the humidity is too low, and it helps my skin.
>
> It causes a lot of condensation though on the windows.  Is there any
> way I can prevent condensation without turning off the humidifier?
>
> I have the temperature of my room around 21c and the humidity between
> 50% and 60% RM (this is comfortable for me and helps my skin). Without
> the humidifier it is only at levels between 25% and 38% RM which is a
> really low level and causes irritation.
>
> Thanks for any help with this.
>
> John


Buy better windows!

The condensation is caused by the glass surface temperature being less than 
the dew-point of the room air. In your case this is about 15c~16c. Therefore 
the only way to not have the condensation is to elevate the window surface 
temperature above 16C
Try double or triple glazing or fit a small heater immediately under the 
window (inside) or low volt demister strips like car rear windows.

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> "John"  wrote in message
> news:oom731hig1q8t6iujs6njt0vurkuv0u90a@4ax.com...
>> Hello.
>>
>> I use a humidifier at home especially at the moment in Winter because
>> the humidity is too low, and it helps my skin.
>>
>> It causes a lot of condensation though on the windows.  Is there any
>> way I can prevent condensation without turning off the humidifier?
>>
>> I have the temperature of my room around 21c and the humidity between
>> 50% and 60% RM (this is comfortable for me and helps my skin). Without
>> the humidifier it is only at levels between 25% and 38% RM which is a
>> really low level and causes irritation.
>>
>> Thanks for any help with this.
>>
>> John
>
> Buy better windows!
>
>
> 

"John"  wrote in message 
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> Hello.
>
> I use a humidifier at home especially at the moment in Winter because
> the humidity is too low, and it helps my skin.
>
> It causes a lot of condensation though on the windows.  Is there any
> way I can prevent condensation without turning off the humidifier?
>
> I have the temperature of my room around 21c and the humidity between
> 50% and 60% RM (this is comfortable for me and helps my skin). Without
> the humidifier it is only at levels between 25% and 38% RM which is a
> really low level and causes irritation.
>
> Thanks for any help with this.
>
> John
>
>

50-60% is awfully high. Can you tolerate lower humidity? 40% perhaps? I 
would be concerned of mold growing in hidden places of your home with high 
humidity,
Greg

John wrote:


> Hello.
>
> I use a humidifier at home especially at the moment in Winter because
> the humidity is too low, and it helps my skin.
>
> It causes a lot of condensation though on the windows.  Is there any
> way I can prevent condensation without turning off the humidifier?
>
> I have the temperature of my room around 21c and the humidity between
> 50% and 60% RM (this is comfortable for me and helps my skin). Without
> the humidifier it is only at levels between 25% and 38% RM which is a
> really low level and causes irritation.
>
> Thanks for any help with this.
>
> John


    Retrofit with better insulated windows.  Double or triple glazed.
Even if you can only afford to replace a couple each year, do it.
Until then, you can buy those plastic shrink wrap kits to put inside
of your windows to provide better insulation.

    --Dale

Greg,
45%~65%RH is the preferred comfort range by ASHRE 55 and ISO7730 
(environmental comfort standards). Mold growth is usually not elevated 
unless the RH exceeds 70% for extensive periods. However at 65% and above, 
I'd suggest at least a weekly wipe over with a low grade biocide on 
horizontal surfaces and a thorough periodic clean for good housekeeping.
Mold growth in non tropical areas is usually the result of something going 
wrong eg. leaking roof, leaking pipe, deficient waste removal, deficient 
cleaning, etc.


"Greg O"  wrote in message 
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>
> "John"  wrote in message 
> news:oom731hig1q8t6iujs6njt0vurkuv0u90a@4ax.com...
>> Hello.
>>
>> I use a humidifier at home especially at the moment in Winter because
>> the humidity is too low, and it helps my skin.
>>
>> It causes a lot of condensation though on the windows.  Is there any
>> way I can prevent condensation without turning off the humidifier?
>>
>> I have the temperature of my room around 21c and the humidity between
>> 50% and 60% RM (this is comfortable for me and helps my skin). Without
>> the humidifier it is only at levels between 25% and 38% RM which is a
>> really low level and causes irritation.
>>
>> Thanks for any help with this.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
> 50-60% is awfully high. Can you tolerate lower humidity? 40% perhaps? I 
> would be concerned of mold growing in hidden places of your home with high 
> humidity,
> Greg
> 

"New Directions In Building Services (Australia)"  
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> > Mold growth in non tropical areas is usually the result of something 
> > going
> wrong eg. leaking roof, leaking pipe, deficient waste removal, deficient 
> cleaning, etc.
>
>
>


North Dakota must be tropical area then.
Greg

Double pane glass, or plastic window kits.

-- 

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"John"  wrote in message
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Hello.

I use a humidifier at home especially at the moment in Winter because
the humidity is too low, and it helps my skin.

It causes a lot of condensation though on the windows.  Is there any
way I can prevent condensation without turning off the humidifier?

I have the temperature of my room around 21c and the humidity between
50% and 60% RM (this is comfortable for me and helps my skin). Without
the humidifier it is only at levels between 25% and 38% RM which is a
really low level and causes irritation.

Thanks for any help with this.

John

Just because the RH is 60% in the room does not mean it is 60%
everywhere in the house.  If the inside of the exterior walls are cold,
the infiltration through the walls can take the moisture from house
into the walls.  The cold temoeratures there can cause localized
condensation or RH above 80%.  There is potential for mold growth under
these circumstances.  I have seen it happen. I would turn the humidity
setting down, depending on how cold it gets outside.  Stop the window
condensation and the walls will probably be safe.

Stretch

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:24:42 -0800, John wrote:


> Hello.
> 
> I use a humidifier at home especially at the moment in Winter because
> the humidity is too low, and it helps my skin.
> 
> It causes a lot of condensation though on the windows.  Is there any way
> I can prevent condensation without turning off the humidifier?
> 
> I have the temperature of my room around 21c and the humidity between
> 50% and 60% RM (this is comfortable for me and helps my skin). Without
> the humidifier it is only at levels between 25% and 38% RM which is a
> really low level and causes irritation.
> 
> Thanks for any help with this.
> 
> John


Double glazing works wonders.

:-)


Condensation can set in at far lower than comfort humidity. Consider a
comfy 72 F 50% RH indoors,  and an arctic winter outdoors. With no widn
chill factor outside,  the glass wil be at a temperature rougly absolute
mean,  which translates to the mean of the two temperatures in F or C, 
since both scales are linear and offset from abs zero.

Doouble glazing sets up an extra pair of air-to-solid interfaces,  and teh
gas between the panes is dry,  so condensation is reduced or eliminated. 
This works to no means.  ;->

Remember,  most of the cooling is caused by convection losses at the
window pane surface inside.  Double glazing introduces an intermediate
convection path,  reducing thermal transmission in the glazing material
(glass or acrylic), thus indirectly reducing convection at the living
space interface.

Triple glazing is even better.

In a pinch,  you can just stretch a
thermal film over a makeshift lath frame,  and affix it to your windows, 
with weather stripping to stop air leaks.  That's what I do at home,  and
it does work.  But winters are mild here,  seldom dipping below the high
20's (F).  YMMV.

"~^Johnny^~"  wrote in message
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> On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:24:42 -0800, John wrote:
>
> > Hello.
> >
> > I use a humidifier at home especially at the moment in Winter because
> > the humidity is too low, and it helps my skin.
> >
> > It causes a lot of condensation though on the windows.  Is there any way
> > I can prevent condensation without turning off the humidifier?
> >
> > I have the temperature of my room around 21c and the humidity between
> > 50% and 60% RM (this is comfortable for me and helps my skin). Without
> > the humidifier it is only at levels between 25% and 38% RM which is a
> > really low level and causes irritation.
> >
> > Thanks for any help with this.
> >
> > John
>
> Double glazing works wonders.
>
> :-)
>
>
> Condensation can set in at far lower than comfort humidity. Consider a
> comfy 72 F 50% RH indoors,  and an arctic winter outdoors. With no widn
> chill factor outside,  the glass wil be at a temperature rougly absolute
> mean,  which translates to the mean of the two temperatures in F or C,
> since both scales are linear and offset from abs zero.
>
> Doouble glazing sets up an extra pair of air-to-solid interfaces,  and teh
> gas between the panes is dry,  so condensation is reduced or eliminated.
> This works to no means.  ;->
>
> Remember,  most of the cooling is caused by convection losses at the
> window pane surface inside.  Double glazing introduces an intermediate
> convection path,  reducing thermal transmission in the glazing material
> (glass or acrylic), thus indirectly reducing convection at the living
> space interface.
>
> Triple glazing is even better.
>
> In a pinch,  you can just stretch a
> thermal film over a makeshift lath frame,  and affix it to your windows,
> with weather stripping to stop air leaks.  That's what I do at home,  and
> it does work.  But winters are mild here,  seldom dipping below the high
> 20's (F).  YMMV.


On small boats the windsheilds and portholes have their condensation reduced
by rubbing a bar of soap over the surface of the glass...