Hello all, I'm new to this forum and have a couple of questions for you experts out there.

Firstly, the situation. After extending the house last year the kitchen has now moved to the extended part, and I am having the old kitchen as a workshop. Now this room also joins the integral garage, and I intend to install a door between the two in the single skin concrete block wall.

I have already acquired a second hand fire door which I will use, but am now trying to work out the best plan of action with minimal mess. After securing the work area with acro's and strongboys I want to remove the block work with a minimum of mess, this rules out a disc cutter. Is chain drilling the next best option then bolstering? Or is there another way.

Also, do I need planning permission. I thought I would ask here first rather than ask my local planning office, as I don't want to raise awareness unnecessarily. I'm a competent DIYer, probably more conscientious than many builders, and if the job was done to a professional standard would anyone be the wiser even if I needed, but didn’t seek planning approval?

Just trying to keep the cost down and keep it simple.

Your thoughts anyone....?

"Neil C"  wrote in message 
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Hello all, I'm new to this forum and have a couple of questions for you 
experts out there.

Firstly, the situation. After extending the house last year the kitchen has 
now moved to the extended part, and I am having the old kitchen as a 
workshop. Now this room also joins the integral garage, and I intend to 
install a door between the two in the single skin concrete block wall.

I have already acquired a second hand fire door which I will use, but am now 
trying to work out the best plan of action with minimal mess. After securing 
the work area with acro's and strongboys I want to remove the block work 
with a minimum of mess, this rules out a disc cutter. Is chain drilling the 
next best option then bolstering? Or is there another way.

Also, do I need planning permission. I thought I would ask here first rather 
than ask my local planning office, as I don't want to raise awareness 
unnecessarily. I'm a competent DIYer, probably more conscientious than many 
builders, and if the job was done to a professional standard would anyone be 
the wiser even if I needed, but didn't seek planning approval?

Just trying to keep the cost down and keep it simple.

Your thoughts anyone....?

I don't know about planning permission, but I do know about mess. You're 
going to make lots, get used to the idea. If you try not to make a mess IME 
you make twice as much or make the job twice as long. If I read your post 
correctly you now have a workshop which used to be the kitchen and you're 
knocking through to the garage, so the workshop has a door to the new 
kitchen or to other parts of the house you don't want to get messy, yes?

What I would do is clear the space around the doorway-to-be, move everything 
you can't take out of the workshop into a pile and cover with dust sheets, 
then when you're all ready to knock through, you go into the workshop with a 
large plastic sheet and  all the tools you're going to need to knock 
through. Close the door and secure the plastic sheet over the doorway and 
seal edges as best you can. Open windows if poss to let the dust out. Knock 
the hole through to the garage, now you can do all the work you want and 
have access to the house by going out through the garage door, leaving the 
plastic sheet up until the job is finished and the sweeping/hoovering is 
done.

When all is sorted you can take down the sheet and you won't get killed by 
the Mrs.

Steve

"shazzbat"  wrote in message 
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> "Neil C"  wrote in message 
> news:8f9a9fc5c94640178326c35b63eb343e@ureader.com...
> Hello all, I'm new to this forum and have a couple of questions for you 
> experts out there.
>
> Firstly, the situation. After extending the house last year the kitchen 
> has now moved to the extended part, and I am having the old kitchen as a 
> workshop. Now this room also joins the integral garage, and I intend to 
> install a door between the two in the single skin concrete block wall.
>
> I have already acquired a second hand fire door which I will use, but am 
> now trying to work out the best plan of action with minimal mess. After 
> securing the work area with acro's and strongboys I want to remove the 
> block work with a minimum of mess, this rules out a disc cutter. Is chain 
> drilling the next best option then bolstering? Or is there another way.
>
> Also, do I need planning permission. I thought I would ask here first 
> rather than ask my local planning office, as I don't want to raise 
> awareness unnecessarily. I'm a competent DIYer, probably more 
> conscientious than many builders, and if the job was done to a 
> professional standard would anyone be the wiser even if I needed, but 
> didn't seek planning approval?
>
> Just trying to keep the cost down and keep it simple.
>
> Your thoughts anyone....?
>
> I don't know about planning permission, but I do know about mess. You're 
> going to make lots, get used to the idea. If you try not to make a mess 
> IME you make twice as much or make the job twice as long. If I read your 
> post correctly you now have a workshop which used to be the kitchen and 
> you're knocking through to the garage, so the workshop has a door to the 
> new kitchen or to other parts of the house you don't want to get messy, 
> yes?
>
> What I would do is clear the space around the doorway-to-be, move 
> everything you can't take out of the workshop into a pile and cover with 
> dust sheets, then when you're all ready to knock through, you go into the 
> workshop with a large plastic sheet and  all the tools you're going to 
> need to knock through. Close the door and secure the plastic sheet over 
> the doorway and seal edges as best you can. Open windows if poss to let 
> the dust out. Knock the hole through to the garage, now you can do all the 
> work you want and have access to the house by going out through the garage 
> door, leaving the plastic sheet up until the job is finished and the 
> sweeping/hoovering is done.
>
> When all is sorted you can take down the sheet and you won't get killed by 
> the Mrs.
>
> Steve
>


And wear a good-quality face mask...


-- 
Martin

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You need building control permission from the council. If you don't it may 
be a small problem when you come to sell, if you have extended it then I 
guess this isnt iminent. One thing they will want is a step down to the 
garage floor or a ' piece' accross the bottom, like a big thresher. I don't 
know the size off-hand.

Your local hire centre can supply a dust extraction unit. Might keep the Mrs 
off your back ;-)


hth
Steve

"Martin"  wrote in message 
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> "shazzbat"  wrote in message 
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>>
>> "Neil C"  wrote in message 
>> news:8f9a9fc5c94640178326c35b63eb343e@ureader.com...
>> Hello all, I'm new to this forum and have a couple of questions for you 
>> experts out there.
>>
>> Firstly, the situation. After extending the house last year the kitchen 
>> has now moved to the extended part, and I am having the old kitchen as a 
>> workshop. Now this room also joins the integral garage, and I intend to 
>> install a door between the two in the single skin concrete block wall.
>>
>> I have already acquired a second hand fire door which I will use, but am 
>> now trying to work out the best plan of action with minimal mess. After 
>> securing the work area with acro's and strongboys I want to remove the 
>> block work with a minimum of mess, this rules out a disc cutter. Is chain 
>> drilling the next best option then bolstering? Or is there another way.
>>
>> Also, do I need planning permission. I thought I would ask here first 
>> rather than ask my local planning office, as I don't want to raise 
>> awareness unnecessarily. I'm a competent DIYer, probably more 
>> conscientious than many builders, and if the job was done to a 
>> professional standard would anyone be the wiser even if I needed, but 
>> didn't seek planning approval?
>>
>> Just trying to keep the cost down and keep it simple.
>>
>> Your thoughts anyone....?
>>
>> I don't know about planning permission, but I do know about mess. You're 
>> going to make lots, get used to the idea. If you try not to make a mess 
>> IME you make twice as much or make the job twice as long. If I read your 
>> post correctly you now have a workshop which used to be the kitchen and 
>> you're knocking through to the garage, so the workshop has a door to the 
>> new kitchen or to other parts of the house you don't want to get messy, 
>> yes?
>>
>> What I would do is clear the space around the doorway-to-be, move 
>> everything you can't take out of the workshop into a pile and cover with 
>> dust sheets, then when you're all ready to knock through, you go into the 
>> workshop with a large plastic sheet and  all the tools you're going to 
>> need to knock through. Close the door and secure the plastic sheet over 
>> the doorway and seal edges as best you can. Open windows if poss to let 
>> the dust out. Knock the hole through to the garage, now you can do all 
>> the work you want and have access to the house by going out through the 
>> garage door, leaving the plastic sheet up until the job is finished and 
>> the sweeping/hoovering is done.
>>
>> When all is sorted you can take down the sheet and you won't get killed 
>> by the Mrs.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>
> And wear a good-quality face mask...
>
>
> -- 
> Martin
>
> [Remove barrier to reply]
> 

jeez, this took some finding google n'all check p68

http://www.odpm.gov.uk/embedded_object.asp?id=1130509


"stevej"  wrote in message 
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> You need building control permission from the council. If you don't it may 
> be a small problem when you come to sell, if you have extended it then I 
> guess this isnt iminent. One thing they will want is a step down to the 
> garage floor or a ' piece' accross the bottom, like a big thresher. I 
> don't know the size off-hand.
>
> Your local hire centre can supply a dust extraction unit. Might keep the 
> Mrs off your back ;-)
>
>
> hth
> Steve
>
> "Martin"  wrote in message 
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>>
>> "shazzbat"  wrote in message 
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>>>
>>> "Neil C"  wrote in message 
>>> news:8f9a9fc5c94640178326c35b63eb343e@ureader.com...
>>> Hello all, I'm new to this forum and have a couple of questions for you 
>>> experts out there.
>>>
>>> Firstly, the situation. After extending the house last year the kitchen 
>>> has now moved to the extended part, and I am having the old kitchen as a 
>>> workshop. Now this room also joins the integral garage, and I intend to 
>>> install a door between the two in the single skin concrete block wall.
>>>
>>> I have already acquired a second hand fire door which I will use, but am 
>>> now trying to work out the best plan of action with minimal mess. After 
>>> securing the work area with acro's and strongboys I want to remove the 
>>> block work with a minimum of mess, this rules out a disc cutter. Is 
>>> chain drilling the next best option then bolstering? Or is there another 
>>> way.
>>>
>>> Also, do I need planning permission. I thought I would ask here first 
>>> rather than ask my local planning office, as I don't want to raise 
>>> awareness unnecessarily. I'm a competent DIYer, probably more 
>>> conscientious than many builders, and if the job was done to a 
>>> professional standard would anyone be the wiser even if I needed, but 
>>> didn't seek planning approval?
>>>
>>> Just trying to keep the cost down and keep it simple.
>>>
>>> Your thoughts anyone....?
>>>
>>> I don't know about planning permission, but I do know about mess. You're 
>>> going to make lots, get used to the idea. If you try not to make a mess 
>>> IME you make twice as much or make the job twice as long. If I read your 
>>> post correctly you now have a workshop which used to be the kitchen and 
>>> you're knocking through to the garage, so the workshop has a door to the 
>>> new kitchen or to other parts of the house you don't want to get messy, 
>>> yes?
>>>
>>> What I would do is clear the space around the doorway-to-be, move 
>>> everything you can't take out of the workshop into a pile and cover with 
>>> dust sheets, then when you're all ready to knock through, you go into 
>>> the workshop with a large plastic sheet and  all the tools you're going 
>>> to need to knock through. Close the door and secure the plastic sheet 
>>> over the doorway and seal edges as best you can. Open windows if poss to 
>>> let the dust out. Knock the hole through to the garage, now you can do 
>>> all the work you want and have access to the house by going out through 
>>> the garage door, leaving the plastic sheet up until the job is finished 
>>> and the sweeping/hoovering is done.
>>>
>>> When all is sorted you can take down the sheet and you won't get killed 
>>> by the Mrs.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>
>> And wear a good-quality face mask...
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Martin
>>
>> [Remove barrier to reply]
>>
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