Anyone know where these are available?  I would find them very useful
at times. Any views.

thx

timegoesby@my-deja.com wrote:

> Anyone know where these are available?  I would find them very useful
> at times. Any views.



I have a very nice set which came from Halfords about 5 years ago.

IMO it's not worth going for the cheaper sets, since they have quite 
large heads, and are not much use in tight spaces. Mine have heads which 
are only slightly larger than a normal ring spanner. They're very useful.


-- 
Grunff

timegoesby@my-deja.com wrote:

> Anyone know where these are available?  I would find them very useful
> at times. Any views.
>
> thx


It is open ended spanners I am after and those I have seen are ring
spanners.

timegoesby@my-deja.com wrote:


> It is open ended spanners I am after and those I have seen are ring
> spanners.



Why didn't you say so?

I have a set of open ended ratchet spanners too. They're Stanley, and 
came from B&Q. Toolstation do them:

<http://www.toolstation.com/index.html?code=95482>


-- 
Grunff

wrote in message
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>
> timegoesby@my-deja.com wrote:
> > Anyone know where these are available?  I would find them very
useful
> > at times. Any views.
> >
> > thx
>
> It is open ended spanners I am after and those I have seen are ring
> spanners.
>


An open ended ratchet spanner, and just how would they work?...

"Matt"  wrote in message
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> Grunff  wrote:
>
> >Rob Morley wrote:
> >
> >> It's like a ring ratchet spanner, only open-ended.  Line up the gap in
> >> the inner rotating bit with the gap in the handle bit, place on nut,
> >> loosen/tighten as needed, line up the gaps again and remove.
> >
> >
> >Sorry, but that statement is insane. Such a device could not work in a
> >Euclidian universe.
> >
> >Open ended ratchet spanners work very well, but they have no moving
parts.
>
> You can get closed ratchet spanners that open to allow them to be used
> on pipework. If the original poster was anybody other than yet another
> Dribble clone I would post a link :-)


Mmm, I thought Andy Lord Hall has a thing about Axminster, and lo and behold
Axminster have an adjustable ratchet spanner.  Lord Hall, now please behave.

"SimonJ"  wrote in message
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> > > > Can you post a link to these 'open ended ratchet spanners'
> > please, as
> > > > I work daily with spanners and they would be very useful but
non
> > of
> > > > my professional / trade tool suppliers seem to anything about
> > such a
> > > > tool.
> > > >
> > > > Or do you really mean the previously mentioned 'escapment'
> > > > spanners?...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > No, I mean open ended ratchet spanners, which is why I said
'open
> > ended
> > > ratchet spanners'
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/7tek8
> > > Item 3 'Alden Wrench Set'
> > >
> >
> > They look like 'escapement' spanners to me - the might have some
form
> > of sprung escapement mechanism though....
> >
> I've never heard of an 'escapement spanner', neither have any of
the tool
> suppliers I use, and neither has google.


Well, that just make you a bit of a twit then, think about how the
spanner works, what a ratchet is, and what moves etc, and then
consider what about marketing speak - or are you another Drivel?....


> Might I suggest that it is a silly term invented by yourself,
because you
> did not believe that a open ended ratchet spanner existed, and now
that you
> have been shown one you are making yourself look rather foolish by
still
> trying to deny their existence!


No, I know that escapement spanners exist, I was trying out them over
15 years ago - no doubt when you were still in nappies!


>
> As far as I'm concerned (and I'm sure I'm not alone on this one) if
the
> spanner has a device to allow it to freely turn in one direction,
but grip
> in the other, then it is indeed a ratchet spanner, a ratchet being
a device
> to allow movement in one direction, but not the other.


Well by that definition then you would call an miss fitting spanner /
worn spanner a 'ratchet' spanner because they can do all that you
suggest above....


>
> > BTW, please learn how to post URL's,
> >
> I am quite aware of how to post URL's, thank you.
>


Your previous post suggest quite the opposite though, you are a moron
for using redirects (just were is that page going to go, child
porn....) and then you are clueless as to the effect that a non .html
file might have, I assume you have never heard of viruses?

Now run along and play with your Fisher Price 'ratchet' spanners!

"Andy Dingley"  wrote in message
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> On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 20:14:06 +0000 (UTC), "SimonJ" 
wrote:
>
> >I don't think the open ended ring spanner has been invented yet!
>
> Look up "flare nut" spanners.  It's a ring spanner with a gap in
it.
> They're mainly used on pipe fittings and so the gap is big enough
to
> allow a pipe through it, but not the whole nut.  Very handy for use
with
> soft (brass or aluminium) pipe unions as they're less likely to
round
> the flats off than an open-ender.
>
> There are also truly ratcheting pipe wrenches (for big pipes - a
few
> inch diameter) where they dismantle into two halves for fitting
onto the
> pipe or fitting, then two concentric rings ratchet over each other.
>
> No doubt Jerry will soon deny the existence of split-race roller
> bearings too - they're for fitting over the centre of a shaft where
you
> can't access the ends.


No I won't, but then you are not talking about frigging ratcheting
RING spanners you are talking about union spanners, pipe wrenches and
split-race roller bearings - NOT ratcheting ring spanners.....

"Guy Dawson"  wrote in message 
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> jhiker@hotmail.com wrote:
>> Clever profile - don't know if they work tho'
>>
>> http://www.armstrongtools.com/newproducts/wrench.jsp
>
> That does indeed have a clever profile but it does not contain a ratchet
> mechanism.
>
> The one that Grunff and I are talking about is one that would be like
> standard ring ratchet but open ended.


How come Grunff just said

"Yes, that's just like the ones I have. They do work, very well"

then?

They may not "contain" a ratchet mecahnism but as they form a ratchet 
themselves, in conjunction with the nut they must be considered ratcheting 
open ended spanners. No-one else appears to have ever seen any other sort.

( I thought I would take a look with a view to buying a spanner, the thread 
turned out to be more exciting than I expected :o) .)
-- 
Bob Mannix
(anti-spam is as easy as 1-2-3 - not)

SimonJ wrote:

>  [ snip all ]


Just for you:


http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post

Andy Dingley wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 20:14:06 +0000 (UTC), "SimonJ"  wrote:
>
> >I don't think the open ended ring spanner has been invented yet!
>
> Look up "flare nut" spanners.  It's a ring spanner with a gap in it.
> They're mainly used on pipe fittings and so the gap is big enough to
> allow a pipe through it, but not the whole nut.  Very handy for use with
> soft (brass or aluminium) pipe unions as they're less likely to round
> the flats off than an open-ender.
>
> There are also truly ratcheting pipe wrenches (for big pipes - a few
> inch diameter) where they dismantle into two halves for fitting onto the
> pipe or fitting, then two concentric rings ratchet over each other.
>
> No doubt Jerry will soon deny the existence of split-race roller
> bearings too - they're for fitting over the centre of a shaft where you
> can't access the ends.

Some good stuff on this thread and it has thrown up more choice, and
confusion, on what is on the market. Crowfoot, adjusting smooth jaw
ratchet spanners, open ended spanners (with ratchets), open ended
spanners (without ratchets but is a sort of ratchet), ring spanners
(with ratchets). Then there is that German FastRatch spanner, which
looks the part, and I'm sure the price too.

Everyone I know who has bought ratchet spanners swears by them and
doesn't know how they survived without them, and having used the odd
one or two (borrowed) I am hooked. The pipe union spanners look good
and I suppose they would be good for pipe compression fitting too (I
never knew they existed). My curiosity is aroused, and I want to buy
some of these spanners, but what type for what job, as I am now a
little confused as what is the best spanners for what job. The smooth
jaw adjusting look good, but are there any ratchet crowfoots that fit
compression nuts? and compression nuts vary in size from make to make
so a that means a collection of them. FAQ on this? A good power tool
FAQ is there, so interesting, and useful tools like ratchet spanners
maybe should be in there as well.

timegoesby@my-deja.com wrote:


> are there any ratchet crowfoots that fit
> compression nuts?


Get hold of a paper Snap-on catalogue. If it exists, they probably make
one.

There are such things, although they're more of an oval with flattened
sides. Can't remember the name but they're a proprietary US design for
refrigeration plumbing.

Generally "flare" wrenches are for small pipes, like vehicle brake and
fuel pipe. If the pipe is the size of domestic water plumbing then
there's not enough difference in pipe and fitting diameter to make it
worthwhile and you can just use an open end.

dingbat@codesmiths.com wrote:

> timegoesby@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > are there any ratchet crowfoots that fit
> > compression nuts?
>
> Get hold of a paper Snap-on catalogue. If it exists, they probably make
> one.
>
> There are such things, although they're more of an oval with flattened
> sides. Can't remember the name but they're a proprietary US design for
> refrigeration plumbing.
>
> Generally "flare" wrenches are for small pipes, like vehicle brake and
> fuel pipe. If the pipe is the size of domestic water plumbing then
> there's not enough difference in pipe and fitting diameter to make it
> worthwhile and you can just use an open end.


Do you mean an open ended ratchet spanner? It is the ratchet aspect I
am after. I haven't seen any large jawed ratchet open ended spanners
around on the web from the links given on this thread.

"SimonJ"  wrote in message
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> > > > They look like 'escapement' spanners to me - the might have some
> > form
> > > > of sprung escapement mechanism though....
> > > >
> > > I've never heard of an 'escapement spanner', neither have any of
> > the tool
> > > suppliers I use, and neither has google.
> >
> > Well, that just make you a bit of a twit then,
> >
> Erm, it makes me a twit because google or my tool suplier have not heard
of
> escapement spanners?
> Not sure I see how you come to that conclusion, but never mind!
>
> > > Might I suggest that it is a silly term invented by yourself,
> > because you
> > > did not believe that a open ended ratchet spanner existed, and now
> > that you
> > > have been shown one you are making yourself look rather foolish by
> > still
> > > trying to deny their existence!
> >
> > No, I know that escapement spanners exist, I was trying out them over
> > 15 years ago - no doubt when you were still in nappies!
> >
> Feel free to provide a reference if you like.
>
> > >
> > > As far as I'm concerned (and I'm sure I'm not alone on this one) if
> > the
> > > spanner has a device to allow it to freely turn in one direction,
> > but grip
> > > in the other, then it is indeed a ratchet spanner, a ratchet being
> > a device
> > > to allow movement in one direction, but not the other.
> >
> > Well by that definition then you would call an miss fitting spanner /
> > worn spanner a 'ratchet' spanner because they can do all that you
> > suggest above....
> >
> No, a worn spanner would partly grip in either direction, which is a long
> way from freely turning in one direction, and gripping in the other.
>
> > >
> > > > BTW, please learn how to post URL's,
> > > >
> > > I am quite aware of how to post URL's, thank you.
> > >
> >
> > Your previous post suggest quite the opposite though, you are a moron
> > for using redirects
> >
> I don't see anyone else objecting!


I thought there was hope for Jerry after a few decent posts, but he clearly
has regressed.