Hi there

I need to fabricate a few new brake pipes on a 1993 Mitsubishi - does
anybody know the correct size for the male fittings that go on the ends of
the pipes? I'm miles from a factors so once I take the old pipes off i will
be grounded until the new ones are on and if I buy the wrong size it is a
long walk.

ta

GT

"Graeme"  wrote in message 
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> Hi there
>
> I need to fabricate a few new brake pipes on a 1993 Mitsubishi - does
> anybody know the correct size for the male fittings that go on the ends of
> the pipes? I'm miles from a factors so once I take the old pipes off i 
> will
> be grounded until the new ones are on and if I buy the wrong size it is a
> long walk.
>
> ta
>
> GT
>


Why not just reuse the old fittings?

mrcheerful

On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 08:14:12 GMT, "mrcheerful
.."  wrote:


>
>"Graeme"  wrote in message 
>news:433654cc$0$49803$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
>> Hi there
>>
>> I need to fabricate a few new brake pipes on a 1993 Mitsubishi - does
>> anybody know the correct size for the male fittings that go on the ends of
>> the pipes? I'm miles from a factors so once I take the old pipes off i 
>> will
>> be grounded until the new ones are on and if I buy the wrong size it is a
>> long walk.
>>
>> ta
>>
>> GT
>>
>
>Why not just reuse the old fittings?
>

Cos the chances are they'll be FUBAR getting them off. In any case, they
distort in use so reusing the old ones isn't a good idea.

My local shop only keeps two, metric & imperial, so there's no issue
with which size to get. For the Mitsubishi (and I have done Mitsi brake
pipes in the past), just standard metric. They have fitted evey car I've
needed to use them on.
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"Chris Bolus"  wrote in message
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> On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 08:14:12 GMT, "mrcheerful
> ."  wrote:
>
> >
> >"Graeme"  wrote in message
> >news:433654cc$0$49803$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
> >> Hi there
> >>
> >> I need to fabricate a few new brake pipes on a 1993 Mitsubishi - does
> >> anybody know the correct size for the male fittings that go on the ends
of
> >> the pipes? I'm miles from a factors so once I take the old pipes off i
> >> will
> >> be grounded until the new ones are on and if I buy the wrong size it is
a
> >> long walk.
> >>
> >> ta
> >>
> >> GT
> >>
> >
> >Why not just reuse the old fittings?
> >
> Cos the chances are they'll be FUBAR getting them off. In any case, they
> distort in use so reusing the old ones isn't a good idea.
>


I've trashed my share in getting them off, but I've never seen one distort
in use.

To get them off without damaging them, just cut off the pipe right next to
the union, and put a hex socket over it. You can then drive the small piece
out of the union with a small punch. Then don't forget to add the odd half
inch that you've cut off to the length of the pipe you're making.

Oh, and they could well be M10x 1mm, but check first.

HTH
Steve

On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 12:56:00 +0100, "shazzbat"
 wrote:


>
>"Chris Bolus"  wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 08:14:12 GMT, "mrcheerful
>> ."  wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Graeme"  wrote in message
>> >news:433654cc$0$49803$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
>> >> Hi there
>> >>
>> >> I need to fabricate a few new brake pipes on a 1993 Mitsubishi - does
>> >> anybody know the correct size for the male fittings that go on the ends
>of
>> >> the pipes? I'm miles from a factors so once I take the old pipes off i
>> >> will
>> >> be grounded until the new ones are on and if I buy the wrong size it is
>a
>> >> long walk.
>> >>
>> >> ta
>> >>
>> >> GT
>> >>
>> >
>> >Why not just reuse the old fittings?
>> >
>> Cos the chances are they'll be FUBAR getting them off. In any case, they
>> distort in use so reusing the old ones isn't a good idea.
>>
>
>I've trashed my share in getting them off, but I've never seen one distort
>in use.
>

Look carefully at the end where the flare is. Compare it with a new one.
They do distort outwards, and it's by design.

-- 
Regards,  Chris    (Please take out my car to reply by email)     
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Chris Bolus (chris@FARINAb0lus.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying : 


> My local shop only keeps two, metric & imperial, so there's no issue
> with which size to get. For the Mitsubishi (and I have done Mitsi
> brake pipes in the past), just standard metric. They have fitted evey
> car I've needed to use them on.


You've never worked on Citroens, then...

On 25 Sep 2005 13:15:52 GMT, Adrian  wrote:


>Chris Bolus (chris@FARINAb0lus.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like
>they were saying : 
>
>> My local shop only keeps two, metric & imperial, so there's no issue
>> with which size to get. For the Mitsubishi (and I have done Mitsi
>> brake pipes in the past), just standard metric. They have fitted evey
>> car I've needed to use them on.
>
>You've never worked on Citroens, then...


I had a BX some years back, but never needed to do any plumbing on it!
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Regards,  Chris    (Please take out my car to reply by email)     
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---1967 Riley Elf---1965 Hillman Minx---1969 Morris Minor--
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Chris Bolus (chris@FARINAb0lus.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like 
they were saying :


>>> My local shop only keeps two, metric & imperial, so there's no issue
>>> with which size to get. For the Mitsubishi (and I have done Mitsi
>>> brake pipes in the past), just standard metric. They have fitted evey
>>> car I've needed to use them on.

>>You've never worked on Citroens, then...

> I had a BX some years back, but never needed to do any plumbing on it!


All the hydraulic unions - including the brakes - are a completely 
different fitting, with a seal. Not just hydraulic suspension cars, either 
- mid-60s-on 2cvs use the same style on the brakes. There's several 
different sizes of union, and different seals according to the fluid.

"Chris Bolus"  wrote in message
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> On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 12:56:00 +0100, "shazzbat"
>  wrote:
>
> >
> >"Chris Bolus"  wrote in message
> >news:3m0dj11of6e1p5lavq82ag20h1n9s1cvmc@4ax.com...
> >> On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 08:14:12 GMT, "mrcheerful
> >> ."  wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Graeme"  wrote in message
> >> >news:433654cc$0$49803$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
> >> >> Hi there
> >> >>
> >> >> I need to fabricate a few new brake pipes on a 1993 Mitsubishi -
does
> >> >> anybody know the correct size for the male fittings that go on the
ends
> >of
> >> >> the pipes? I'm miles from a factors so once I take the old pipes off
i
> >> >> will
> >> >> be grounded until the new ones are on and if I buy the wrong size it
is
> >a
> >> >> long walk.
> >> >>
> >> >> ta
> >> >>
> >> >> GT
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Why not just reuse the old fittings?
> >> >
> >> Cos the chances are they'll be FUBAR getting them off. In any case,
they
> >> distort in use so reusing the old ones isn't a good idea.
> >>
> >
> >I've trashed my share in getting them off, but I've never seen one
distort
> >in use.
> >
> Look carefully at the end where the flare is. Compare it with a new one.
> They do distort outwards, and it's by design.
>


Distortion by design, or by overtightening? IMHO it's the latter.

Steve

On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 15:37:36 +0100, "shazzbat"
 wrote:


>
>"Chris Bolus"  wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 12:56:00 +0100, "shazzbat"
>>  wrote:

>> >I've trashed my share in getting them off, but I've never seen one
>distort
>> >in use.
>> >
>> Look carefully at the end where the flare is. Compare it with a new one.
>> They do distort outwards, and it's by design.
>>
>
>Distortion by design, or by overtightening? IMHO it's the latter.
>

If that's the case, they're overtightened in the factory. But they are
made from soft metal, and it's my feeling that they are intended to
spread a little to aid the seal. Of course, I could be completely wrong!
-- 
Regards,  Chris    (Please take out my car to reply by email)     
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---1967 Riley Elf---1965 Hillman Minx---1969 Morris Minor--
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