Ha! At last! Thunder & hailstones! Just as I was thinking of nipping out to 
the shops before they shut...

ally

"a l l y"  wrote in message 
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> Ha! At last! Thunder & hailstones! Just as I was thinking of nipping out 
> to the shops before they shut...
>
> ally

 It's 6pm and the rain has just arrived here. Do we get hail and thunder for 
seconds? I love lightning and thunder. Even as a kid I would sit by the open 
door and enjoy it  - while my mother covered the knives and mirrors!

Rex           Looking forward to this evening.

"Norcot"  wrote in message 
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>
> "a l l y"  wrote in message 
> news:3pvrn7Fch7oeU1@individual.net...
>> Ha! At last! Thunder & hailstones! Just as I was thinking of nipping out 
>> to the shops before they shut...
>>
>> ally
> It's 6pm and the rain has just arrived here. Do we get hail and thunder 
> for seconds? I love lightning and thunder. Even as a kid I would sit by 
> the open door and enjoy it  - while my mother covered the knives and 
> mirrors!
>
> Rex           Looking forward to this evening.

Just been outside taking photos of the magnificent perfect double rainbow 
that suddenly appeared over the village. Here's a quick look at it: 
www.marshallmcgurk.co.uk/stuff/the_side_room/rainbow02.jpg

Now I'm trying to stitch together the series of photos I took, to produce a 
complete bow.

ally

"a l l y"  wrote in message>>

>>
> Just been outside taking photos of the magnificent perfect double rainbow 
> that suddenly appeared over the village. Here's a quick look at it: 
> www.marshallmcgurk.co.uk/stuff/the_side_room/rainbow02.jpg
>
> Now I'm trying to stitch together the series of photos I took, to produce 
> a complete bow.
>
> ally
> That was a beauty!



Rex

"Norcot"  wrote in message 
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>
> "a l l y"  wrote in message>>
>>>
>> Just been outside taking photos of the magnificent perfect double rainbow 
>> that suddenly appeared over the village. Here's a quick look at it: 
>> www.marshallmcgurk.co.uk/stuff/the_side_room/rainbow02.jpg
>>
>> Now I'm trying to stitch together the series of photos I took, to produce 
>> a complete bow.
>>
>> ally
>> That was a beauty!
>

Here's the stitched version.
www.marshallmcgurk.co.uk/stuff/the_side_room/bigrainbow.jpg
It is impossible to stitch something like this together accurately, of 
course, because the camera angle changes with each photo, so I haven't even 
tried. All I've tried to do is get the arc of the rainbow correct, and I've 
enhanced the contrast a bit so you can see the secondary arc a bit better.

ally

"a l l y"  wrote in message>>

> Here's the stitched version.
> www.marshallmcgurk.co.uk/stuff/the_side_room/bigrainbow.jpg
> It is impossible to stitch something like this together accurately, of 
> course, because the camera angle changes with each photo, so I haven't 
> even tried. All I've tried to do is get the arc of the rainbow correct, 
> and I've enhanced the contrast a bit so you can see the secondary arc a 
> bit better.
>
> ally

I'm afraid it's a broken link, Ally. This one doesn't work.

Rex.

"Norcot"  wrote in message 
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>
> "a l l y"  wrote in message>>
>> Here's the stitched version.
>> www.marshallmcgurk.co.uk/stuff/the_side_room/bigrainbow.jpg
>> It is impossible to stitch something like this together accurately, of 
>> course, because the camera angle changes with each photo, so I haven't 
>> even tried. All I've tried to do is get the arc of the rainbow correct, 
>> and I've enhanced the contrast a bit so you can see the secondary arc a 
>> bit better.
>>
>> ally
> I'm afraid it's a broken link, Ally. This one doesn't work.
>

Oops. Sorry. It's 
www.marshallmcgurk.co.uk/stuff/the_side_room/big_rainbow.jpg

ally

"a l l y"  wrote in message


>> I'm afraid it's a broken link, Ally. This one doesn't work.
>>
> Oops. Sorry. It's 
> www.marshallmcgurk.co.uk/stuff/the_side_room/big_rainbow.jpg
>


That's better...much better. I do like that. The different perspectives make 
an interesting picture. I'm sure you could use that on one of your websites.

Rex.

"a l l y"  wrote in message
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>
> "Norcot"  wrote in message
> news:k2B_e.496$0f3.472@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
> >
> > "a l l y"  wrote in message>>
> >> Here's the stitched version.
> >> www.marshallmcgurk.co.uk/stuff/the_side_room/bigrainbow.jpg
> >> It is impossible to stitch something like this together accurately, of
> >> course, because the camera angle changes with each photo, so I haven't
> >> even tried. All I've tried to do is get the arc of the rainbow correct,
> >> and I've enhanced the contrast a bit so you can see the secondary arc a
> >> bit better.
> >>
> >> ally
> > I'm afraid it's a broken link, Ally. This one doesn't work.
> >
> Oops. Sorry. It's
> www.marshallmcgurk.co.uk/stuff/the_side_room/big_rainbow.jpg
>
> ally


OO! That was really nice.

Edith.

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:09:49 +0100, a l l y wrote:


> Here's the stitched version.
> www.marshallmcgurk.co.uk/stuff/the_side_room/big_rainbow.jpg
> It is impossible to stitch something like this together accurately, 
> of course, because the camera angle changes with each photo, so I 
> haven't even tried.


But if you mount the camera properly you should be able to. I Think 
the trick is to rotate the camera around the vertical and horizontal 
centre lines of the film plane. Rotation about the vertical centre 
line is how you take panoramas without having to fudge the joins, not 
quite sure what happens if you also rotate about the horizontal.

Panorama mounts are available on ebay but they generaly only rotate in 
one axis not two.


> All I've tried to do is get the arc of the rainbow correct, and I've 
> enhanced the contrast a bit so you can see the secondary arc a bit 
> better.


Still a fascinating image. I think if you played a bit more so the arc 
was perfect both for alignment and sky colours it would be a really go 
image. Take down the houses bottom center so they don't grab the eye 
so much as well.

As for the weather up here, been peeing it down since about 1330 with 
a very heavy spell (30mins) at 1500 and again but very short as the 
cold front passed through at 1800. Total rain fall of about an inch 
some localised flooding and all the gills and rivers are torrents. No 
thunder and lighting as normal.  B-(

-- 
Cheers                                              new5pam@howhill.com
Dave.                                             pam is missing e-mail

"Dave Liquorice"  wrote in message
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> On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:09:49 +0100, a l l y wrote:
>
> > Here's the stitched version.
> > www.marshallmcgurk.co.uk/stuff/the_side_room/big_rainbow.jpg
> > It is impossible to stitch something like this together accurately,
> > of course, because the camera angle changes with each photo, so I
> > haven't even tried.
>
> But if you mount the camera properly you should be able to. I Think
> the trick is to rotate the camera around the vertical and horizontal
> centre lines of the film plane. Rotation about the vertical centre
> line is how you take panoramas without having to fudge the joins, not
> quite sure what happens if you also rotate about the horizontal.
>
> Panorama mounts are available on ebay but they generaly only rotate in
> one axis not two.
>
> > All I've tried to do is get the arc of the rainbow correct, and I've
> > enhanced the contrast a bit so you can see the secondary arc a bit
> > better.
>
> Still a fascinating image. I think if you played a bit more so the arc
> was perfect both for alignment and sky colours it would be a really go
> image. Take down the houses bottom center so they don't grab the eye
> so much as well.
>
> As for the weather up here, been peeing it down since about 1330


Blimey, Dave, that's a long time. 675 years. Did you get your ABC gear out?
Snorkel, flippers and mask?

with

> a very heavy spell (30mins) at 1500 and again but very short as the
> cold front passed through at 1800. Total rain fall of about an inch
> some localised flooding and all the gills and rivers are torrents. No
> thunder and lighting as normal.  B-(
>
> --
> Cheers                                              new5pam@howhill.com
> Dave.                                             pam is missing e-mail

"Dave Liquorice"  wrote in message 
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> On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:09:49 +0100, a l l y wrote:
>
>> Here's the stitched version.
>> www.marshallmcgurk.co.uk/stuff/the_side_room/big_rainbow.jpg
>> It is impossible to stitch something like this together accurately,
>> of course, because the camera angle changes with each photo, so I
>> haven't even tried.
>
> But if you mount the camera properly you should be able to. I Think
> the trick is to rotate the camera around the vertical and horizontal
> centre lines of the film plane. Rotation about the vertical centre
> line is how you take panoramas without having to fudge the joins, not
> quite sure what happens if you also rotate about the horizontal.


I think the problem is the same one map-makers have. They are looking down 
on to a sphere (the earth) and trying to map this convex shape on a flat 
surface. I am *inside* a sphere (the earth's atmosphere) and trying to make 
flat images of a concave surface (the sky). You can get away with a simple 
panorama where the camera stays at the same height (I've done this several 
times fairly successfully) but the minute you start panning upwards as well 
as on the horizontal plane things get really complicated. I'm sure there 
must be software that'll fix this, but I don't try it often enough to make 
it worthwhile.


>
> Still a fascinating image. I think if you played a bit more so the arc
> was perfect both for alignment and sky colours it would be a really go
> image. Take down the houses bottom center so they don't grab the eye
> so much as well.


Yeah, I must play about with it some more. It would be worth the effort for 
once.

ally

> www.marshallmcgurk.co.uk/stuff/the_side_room/rainbow02.jpg


My son says there's always two rainbows. It's just that you 
can't always see the fainter one. Which begs the question 'then 
how do you know it's always there?"

Johnny-one-son

<Johnny@ominous.portent> wrote in message
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> > www.marshallmcgurk.co.uk/stuff/the_side_room/rainbow02.jpg
>
> My son says there's always two rainbows. It's just that you
> can't always see the fainter one. Which begs the question 'then
> how do you know it's always there?"
>
> Johnny-one-son


Maybe he just counts the colours he can't see. ?

Eduth

> Maybe he just counts the colours he can't see. ?
> 
> Eduth


I think you and he would agree. But not me.

Johnny-definitely-going-home-now

<Johnny@ominous.portent> wrote in message
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> > Maybe he just counts the colours he can't see. ?
> >
> > Eduth
>
> I think you and he would agree. But not me.
>
> Johnny-definitely-going-home-now


Byebye.
We'll meet again-don't know where
Don't know wheeeeeeeeeeeeeen
But  know we'll meet again some sunny day.

Edith.

ps: I've quarrelled with my neighbours again. The same ones. I'm a worried
person now. I hate quarrelling, but when they come at you with daggers in
their eyes, I can't help but talk back.

"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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>
> ps: I've quarrelled with my neighbours again. The same ones. I'm a worried
> person now. I hate quarrelling, but when they come at you with daggers in
> their eyes, I can't help but talk back.
>

You been hosting wild all-night parties again, Edith? Tut tut. At your age.

We used to have all sorts of difficult neighbours in Edinburgh. Makes you 
appreciate the sort of neighbours we have now. I'd give the people on both 
sides of us full marks and 5 gold stars. Long may they stay put!

ally

"a l l y"  wrote in message
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>
> "The Traveller"  wrote in message
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> >
> > ps: I've quarrelled with my neighbours again. The same ones. I'm a
worried
> > person now. I hate quarrelling, but when they come at you with daggers
in
> > their eyes, I can't help but talk back.
> >
> You been hosting wild all-night parties again, Edith? Tut tut. At your
age.
>
> We used to have all sorts of difficult neighbours in Edinburgh. Makes you
> appreciate the sort of neighbours we have now. I'd give the people on both
> sides of us full marks and 5 gold stars. Long may they stay put!
>
> ally


So their tinkle bells are a blessing, hey?  I didn't mean to quarrel.
Someone had parked their car half way onto the lawn and half way onto the
pavement, so we couldn't get by. They were visitors to someone. I soon found
out when I asked nicely if they could park somewhere else in future. The
sower bat that they visitted, the only problem in the building came at me
with a dagger. Well, as you probably have gathered, I'm not one to stand and
take it so - I wish I could just keep my trap shut sometimes but, chit, you
can't just let people walk all over you. Give them an onch and they take a
mile.

There now. I got that out of my system.
Edith.

"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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>
> So their tinkle bells are a blessing, hey?


If that's the biggest problem they cause me it makes them saintly 
neighbours. Honest. And they sometimes bring us fruit from their trees or 
home-grown tomatoes. Lovely people. You have no idea of some of the problems 
previous people caused us.

I didn't mean to quarrel.

> Someone had parked their car half way onto the lawn and half way onto the
> pavement, so we couldn't get by. They were visitors to someone. I soon 
> found
> out when I asked nicely if they could park somewhere else in future. The
> sower bat that they visitted, the only problem in the building came at me
> with a dagger. Well, as you probably have gathered, I'm not one to stand 
> and
> take it so - I wish I could just keep my trap shut sometimes but, chit, 
> you
> can't just let people walk all over you. Give them an onch and they take a
> mile.
>

Grrrr. Oh yes. This is the sort of thing that happens when you live in a 
flat. Ohyes.

ally

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 21:53:21 +0100, a l l y wrote:


> I think the problem is the same one map-makers have. They are 
> looking down on to a sphere (the earth) and trying to map this 
> convex shape on a flat surface. I am *inside* a sphere (the earth's 
> atmosphere) and trying to make flat images of a concave surface (the 
> sky). 


Similar but the misalgnment in your photo is due to the camera moving 
and not observing from *exactly* the same point. Agreed you can't do 
it with out some distortion of the image but you can make the 
distortion gradual rather the step.  B-)


> You can get away with a simple panorama where the camera stays at 
> the same height (I've done this several times fairly successfully) 
> but the minute you start panning upwards as well as on the 
> horizontal plane things get really complicated. I'm sure there 
> must be software that'll fix this, but I don't try it often enough 
> to make it worthwhile.


Getting the images to align correctly without fudging helps a great 
deal. I've done panoramas as well but the joins are always a bit of a 
fudge but that is without a proper mount. It should be possible to 
have invisible joins without fudging. If it works in one plane it 
should work in the other, probably not both at the same time though. I 
think it would work fairly well for the area of even a large rainbow.

-- 
Cheers                                              new5pam@howhill.com
Dave.                                             pam is missing e-mail

"Dave Liquorice"  wrote in message >

> Similar but the misalgnment in your photo is due to the camera moving
> and not observing from *exactly* the same point. Agreed you can't do
> it with out some distortion of the image but you can make the
> distortion gradual rather the step.  B-)


Well certainly I was just standing in the middle of the road, watching for 
passing traffic and taking a few quick pix before the bow disappeared. so 
there wasn't really time to worry about tripods and so on. I see your point 
though, and given time to set things up I'd do it your way.

>

ally

You are wasting your time posting this  here because < uk.local.*>
news groups, all of them, have been from the very beginning and will
be to the very end safe play areas for all sorts of raging nutters,
social malcontents, control freaks and malevolent beings. 
You may feel that they should go elsewhere but where? The asylums 
are all closed. Every so often they stop taking their medication and
go off their fucking heads. What would you have of them? Standing in
their back yards at midnight howling to the full moon and frightening
the shit out of the neighbours into the bargain? Have them running
around shafting masons, suspected vampires, werewolves, communists,
socialists, conservatives and women with vaginal warts by the dozen?
OR harmlessly making utter cunts of themselves in a uk.local group?
Lets face it what is one other cunt amongst the many?? I know what I
prefer!! The uk.local hierarchy of newsgroups is a valuable safety
valve which helps to keep society a wee bit more safe. 
You may disagree. I would be interested to hear your opinion and no
doubt would the rest of the group. Thanks in advance.
Go with God my friend....go with God...
through the hazardous pilgrimage of life.
Good and ill emanate from God.
We are all being tested my friend, all of us.
So take heart, you are not alone.

Hardy wrote:

  you are not alone.

Aye lad  the truth is out there

Roswelly

Ron O'Area 51


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