The doors in my Victorian flat have 4" steel hinges on all doors .I
always wondered if these should be painted or just left alone .I don't
suppose it matters as the flat part is mostly unseen but it's more
relevant for the knuckle part ...but they could rust I suppose..Any
thoughts.??

Stuart 




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Stuart wrote:

> The doors in my Victorian flat have 4" steel hinges on all doors .I
> always wondered if these should be painted or just left alone .I don't
> suppose it matters as the flat part is mostly unseen but it's more
> relevant for the knuckle part ...but they could rust I suppose..Any
> thoughts.??


It would be a damp flat if they wereto rust. Most steel hinges I've seen 
have been painted; the flat part gets painted with the door so leaving 
the other part unpainted get a bit fiddly. Personally I prefer brass 
hinges - unpainted.

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   Stuart  wrote:

> The doors in my Victorian flat have 4" steel hinges on all doors .I
> always wondered if these should be painted or just left alone .I don't
> suppose it matters as the flat part is mostly unseen but it's more
> relevant for the knuckle part ...but they could rust I suppose..Any
> thoughts.??


Normally painted if steel. Brass can look nice left.

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They'll be cast iron if original. Last about 10 times as long as brass.
Yes paint them but make sure theyre free moving first (oil) and that
there is not a big build up of paint layers on the hinge faces as this
can eventually stop them closing properly and they start pulling out.

cheers

Jacob

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 11:15:20 GMT, DJC 
wrote:

| Stuart wrote:
| > The doors in my Victorian flat have 4" steel hinges on all doors .I
| > always wondered if these should be painted or just left alone .I don't
| > suppose it matters as the flat part is mostly unseen but it's more
| > relevant for the knuckle part ...but they could rust I suppose..Any
| > thoughts.??
| 
| It would be a damp flat if they wereto rust. Most steel hinges I've seen 
| have been painted; the flat part gets painted with the door so leaving 
| the other part unpainted get a bit fiddly. Personally I prefer brass 
| hinges - unpainted.

Getting the screws with painted heads out is a bit of a pain.

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Stuart wrote:

> The doors in my Victorian flat have 4" steel hinges on all doors .I
> always wondered if these should be painted or just left alone .I don't
> suppose it matters as the flat part is mostly unseen but it's more
> relevant for the knuckle part ...but they could rust I suppose..Any
> thoughts.??
> 
> Stuart 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Get a life?

Stuart wrote:

> The doors in my Victorian flat have 4" steel hinges on all doors .I
> always wondered if these should be painted


They ought to be. They ought to be cast iron, if original.

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 20:15:29 +0100, Chris Bacon 
wrote:


>Stuart wrote:
>> The doors in my Victorian flat have 4" steel hinges on all doors .I
>> always wondered if these should be painted
>
>They ought to be. They ought to be cast iron, if original.


I'd have thought wrought iron rather than cast.

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Frank Erskine wrote:

> Chris Bacon wrote:
>>Stuart wrote:
>>
>>>The doors in my Victorian flat have 4" steel hinges on all doors .I
>>>always wondered if these should be painted
>>
>>They ought to be. They ought to be cast iron, if original.
> 
> I'd have thought wrought iron rather than cast.


Cast iron butt hinges were invented over two hundred years ago.

On 21 Sep 2005, DJC wrote


> Stuart wrote:
>> The doors in my Victorian flat have 4" steel hinges on all doors
>> .I always wondered if these should be painted or just left alone
>> .I don't suppose it matters as the flat part is mostly unseen but
>> it's more relevant for the knuckle part ...but they could rust I
>> suppose..Any thoughts.??
> 
> It would be a damp flat if they wereto rust. Most steel hinges
> I've seen have been painted; the flat part gets painted with the
> door so leaving the other part unpainted get a bit fiddly.
> Personally I prefer brass hinges - unpainted.


Seconded.

Treat the hinge as a consistent item of door furniture.  Either 
entirely paint it with the door ("here be part of door"), or entirely 
non-paint it with the door -- whether brass or a different colour -- as 
in "here be hinge".

Half-and-half looks like you can't decide....


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DJC  writes:


> Stuart wrote:
>> The doors in my Victorian flat have 4" steel hinges on all doors .I
>> always wondered if these should be painted or just left alone .I don't
>> suppose it matters as the flat part is mostly unseen but it's more
>> relevant for the knuckle part ...but they could rust I suppose..Any
>> thoughts.??
>
> It would be a damp flat if they wereto rust. Most steel hinges I've
> seen have been painted; the flat part gets painted with the door so
> leaving the other part unpainted get a bit fiddly. Personally I prefer
> brass hinges - unpainted.
>
> -- 
> David Clark
>
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While not traditional, the method I prefer is to shellac the hinges.
In case your flat is damp, or in damp areas (say a bathroom), this
keeps the hinges from rusting while only minimally changing the
appearance.  You can shellac the screw heads separately if you like to
keep them from sticking.

Michael

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> Frank Erskine wrote:
>> Chris Bacon wrote:
>>>Stuart wrote:
>>>
>>>>The doors in my Victorian flat have 4" steel hinges on all doors .I
>>>>always wondered if these should be painted
>>>
>>>They ought to be. They ought to be cast iron, if original.
>>
>> I'd have thought wrought iron rather than cast.
>
> Cast iron butt hinges were invented over two hundred years ago.


And still being used as standard in the late 1920's when my house was built 
(and yes they do crack apart occasionally so you can see they are cast)

Bob Mannix

> > Cast iron butt hinges were invented over two hundred years ago.
>
> And still being used as standard in the late 1920's when my house was built
> (and yes they do crack apart occasionally so you can see they are cast)
>
> Bob Mannix


And only just started to be unavailable. I completely failed to get
some proper traditional 4 inch butts recently and could only get
"antique" black finished imitations - i.e. are cast iron, expensive but
badly made and loose fitting. Just another example of the  process
whereby excellent traditional stuff becomes unavailable and is replaced
by modern crap.

cheers
Jacob

jacob@jpbutler.demon.co.uk wrote:

>>>Cast iron butt hinges were invented over two hundred years ago.

> And only just started to be unavailable. I completely failed to get
> some proper traditional 4 inch butts recently


I tried to find some, too - similar results, nothing to be
found. Some pointers from this NG led to the crap you mention
below! I wonder whether the Chinese might start making them?



>  and could only get
> "antique" black finished imitations - i.e. are cast iron, expensive but
> badly made and loose fitting. Just another example of the  process
> whereby excellent traditional stuff becomes unavailable and is replaced
> by modern crap.


What's the best replacement? Cast brass/washered? Any joy
from these below, which I've just "Googled", for "cast iron
butt hinge", but haven't tried?

http://www.mertontimber.com/product_list.php?id4=IH
http://www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk/Products.aspx?Pcode=12-011-B&Grp1Code=46835&ID=5921