Anyone know if I will have issues laying telephone (and maybe cat5) 
cable under laminate ?? I am planning on use faily thick underlay. The 
underfloor is chipboard in a new build house.

Underlay thickness is 3mm (or maybe the 2mm thickness stuff) - density 
95kg/m

NC wrote:

> Anyone know if I will have issues laying telephone (and maybe cat5) 
> cable under laminate ?? I am planning on use faily thick underlay. The 
> underfloor is chipboard in a new build house.
> 
> Underlay thickness is 3mm (or maybe the 2mm thickness stuff) - density 
> 95kg/m


I recently did something similar.  I replaced the radiator in a room and 
realised that I'd left the alarm cables that had previously ran behind 
the radiator pipes in front of them!

I decided not to bother taking the radiator off again and simply cut a 
channel out of the underlay to run the cable in.  The laminate doesn't 
seem to have any problems bridging the approx. 5mm gap I left (so far 
anyway!)

Richard Conway wrote:

> NC wrote:
> 
>> Anyone know if I will have issues laying telephone (and maybe cat5) 
>> cable under laminate ?? I am planning on use faily thick underlay. The 
>> underfloor is chipboard in a new build house.
>>
>> Underlay thickness is 3mm (or maybe the 2mm thickness stuff) - density 
>> 95kg/m
> 
> 
> I recently did something similar.  I replaced the radiator in a room and 
> realised that I'd left the alarm cables that had previously ran behind 
> the radiator pipes in front of them!
> 
> I decided not to bother taking the radiator off again and simply cut a 
> channel out of the underlay to run the cable in.  The laminate doesn't 
> seem to have any problems bridging the approx. 5mm gap I left (so far 
> anyway!)


so you actually cut a groove in the underlay, rather than running the 
cable under it ?? May be an idea to tuck the cables into the joins in 
the underlay...

NC wrote:

> Richard Conway wrote:
> 
>> NC wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone know if I will have issues laying telephone (and maybe cat5) 
>>> cable under laminate ?? I am planning on use faily thick underlay. 
>>> The underfloor is chipboard in a new build house.
>>>
>>> Underlay thickness is 3mm (or maybe the 2mm thickness stuff) - 
>>> density 95kg/m
>>
>>
>>
>> I recently did something similar.  I replaced the radiator in a room 
>> and realised that I'd left the alarm cables that had previously ran 
>> behind the radiator pipes in front of them!
>>
>> I decided not to bother taking the radiator off again and simply cut a 
>> channel out of the underlay to run the cable in.  The laminate doesn't 
>> seem to have any problems bridging the approx. 5mm gap I left (so far 
>> anyway!)
> 
> 
> so you actually cut a groove in the underlay, rather than running the 
> cable under it ?? May be an idea to tuck the cables into the joins in 
> the underlay...

Yeah, that would be better I suppose - I didn't have the option because 
the cables were already there so I had to work around them - if you are 
laying the cables as new (or they have plenty of slack) then I don't see 
why you couldn't route them along the joins.

Just a point from re-reading your post - I used the large rectangular 
'tiles' of underlay (prolly about 5-8mm thick, not the stuff on the 
rolls - that might be too thin to do this without squashing the cables.

> Yeah, that would be better I suppose - I didn't have the option because 
> the cables were already there so I had to work around them - if you are 
> laying the cables as new (or they have plenty of slack) then I don't see 
> why you couldn't route them along the joins.
> 
> Just a point from re-reading your post - I used the large rectangular 
> 'tiles' of underlay (prolly about 5-8mm thick, not the stuff on the 
> rolls - that might be too thin to do this without squashing the cables.


I would expect it to be easier to put cables under the roll stuff as its 
softer and should accommodate the cables by compressing a little... but 
I could be talking out of my arse !

NC wrote:

> 
>> Yeah, that would be better I suppose - I didn't have the option 
>> because the cables were already there so I had to work around them - 
>> if you are laying the cables as new (or they have plenty of slack) 
>> then I don't see why you couldn't route them along the joins.
>>
>> Just a point from re-reading your post - I used the large rectangular 
>> 'tiles' of underlay (prolly about 5-8mm thick, not the stuff on the 
>> rolls - that might be too thin to do this without squashing the cables.
> 
> 
> I would expect it to be easier to put cables under the roll stuff as its 
> softer and should accommodate the cables by compressing a little... but 
> I could be talking out of my arse !


It may be easier but I would think that the cable would be subject to 
quite a bit of wear and tear as people walk across the laminate.

Out of interest, is there no way you place the cables in the expansion 
gap around the edges before fitting skirting/beading?

> It may be easier but I would think that the cable would be subject to 
> quite a bit of wear and tear as people walk across the laminate.
> 
> Out of interest, is there no way you place the cables in the expansion 
> gap around the edges before fitting skirting/beading?


I could do - but a door and fireplace gets in the way. I suppose I could 
still route it under the expansion stip thingy.

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 09:00:04 +0000 (UTC), NC  scrawled:


>Anyone know if I will have issues laying telephone (and maybe cat5) 
>cable under laminate ?? 


I wouldn't even remotely think about possibly ever doing such a thing.
-- 
Stuart @ SJW Electrical

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Lurch wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 09:00:04 +0000 (UTC), NC  scrawled:
> 
> 
>>Anyone know if I will have issues laying telephone (and maybe cat5) 
>>cable under laminate ?? 
> 
> 
> I wouldn't even remotely think about possibly ever doing such a thing.

Is that because you are opposed to laminate though ;)

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 11:25:33 +0100, Richard Conway 
scrawled:


>>>Anyone know if I will have issues laying telephone (and maybe cat5) 
>>>cable under laminate ?? 
>> 
>> I wouldn't even remotely think about possibly ever doing such a thing.

>Is that because you are opposed to laminate though ;)


At the risk of being controversial, I'm not against laminate flooring!
-- 
Stuart @ SJW Electrical

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> Anyone know if I will have issues laying telephone (and maybe cat5) cable 
> under laminate ?? I am planning on use fairly thick underlay. The 
> underfloor is chipboard in a new build house.
>
> Underlay thickness is 3mm (or maybe the 2mm thickness stuff) - density 
> 95kg/m


I used the fibre-board type of underlay for mine and cut grooves into it to 
accommodate the telephone and speaker cables. No adverse effects but the 
fibre-board was thicker than the cables.

Grumble

Lurch wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 11:25:33 +0100, Richard Conway 
> scrawled:
> 
> 
>>>>Anyone know if I will have issues laying telephone (and maybe cat5) 
>>>>cable under laminate ?? 
>>>
>>>I wouldn't even remotely think about possibly ever doing such a thing.
> 
> 
>>Is that because you are opposed to laminate though ;)
> 
> 
> At the risk of being controversial, I'm not against laminate flooring!


so can you explain your reply then ?? Whats so evil about the proposal ?

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 19:57:07 +0000 (UTC), NC  scrawled:


>Lurch wrote:
>> On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 11:25:33 +0100, Richard Conway 
>> scrawled:
>> 
>> 
>>>>>Anyone know if I will have issues laying telephone (and maybe cat5) 
>>>>>cable under laminate ?? 
>>>>
>>>>I wouldn't even remotely think about possibly ever doing such a thing.
>> 
>> 
>>>Is that because you are opposed to laminate though ;)
>> 
>> 
>> At the risk of being controversial, I'm not against laminate flooring!
>
>so can you explain your reply then ?? Whats so evil about the proposal ?


I'm sure it is theoretically possible but as a professional it's not
the done thing. If they were maybe at the edge then possibly as an
only option but definitely not acroiss a doorway.

Just my opinion, do with it what you will. ;)
-- 
Stuart @ SJW Electrical

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> I'm sure it is theoretically possible but as a professional it's not
> the done thing. If they were maybe at the edge then possibly as an
> only option but definitely not acroiss a doorway.
> 
> Just my opinion, do with it what you will. ;)


and appreciated it is too.. Thanks for the input.