Can anyone tell me if there are any hard points in a porta cabin?

I have been tasked, by the school I work at, to connect a goal post to a 
porta cabin side wall, so as to prevent the posts from falling and 
hurting a pupil.

Looking at the lower porta cabin wall (it is the wall that is on lower 
ground than the entrance side, at about 2 to 3 foot lower) it looks like 
a skirt of ply has been nailed onto it, but initial investigation does 
not give me much info. A stud finder does not give me any indication of 
a anything substantial behind the skirt (I suspect metal has influenced 
it. I have taken off a small air vent to look behind, but there turned 
out to be just three 19 mm holes in a row behind it. Short of finding a 
dentist sized mirror and a dark afternoon, I can't see me finding out if 
I could use this as a hard point

I really want to fasten something a bit higher up the wall; hence...

How is a porta cabin constructed?

Dave

ps  I googled for this and found lots of sites that would sell me a 
porta cabin  :-(

In message <dgq2jf$ret$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, Dave 
 writes

>Can anyone tell me if there are any hard points in a porta cabin?
>
>I have been tasked, by the school I work at, to connect a goal post to 
>a porta cabin side wall, so as to prevent the posts from falling and 
>hurting a pupil.
>
>Looking at the lower porta cabin wall (it is the wall that is on lower 
>ground than the entrance side, at about 2 to 3 foot lower) it looks 
>like a skirt of ply has been nailed onto it, but initial investigation 
>does not give me much info. A stud finder does not give me any 
>indication of a anything substantial behind the skirt (I suspect metal 
>has influenced it. I have taken off a small air vent to look behind, 
>but there turned out to be just three 19 mm holes in a row behind it. 
>Short of finding a dentist sized mirror and a dark afternoon, I can't 
>see me finding out if I could use this as a hard point
>
>I really want to fasten something a bit higher up the wall; hence...
>
>How is a porta cabin constructed?
>

I would have thought that it's a much better idea to do the job properly

-- 
geoff

raden wrote:


> In message <dgq2jf$ret$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, Dave 
>  writes
> 
>> Can anyone tell me if there are any hard points in a porta cabin?
>>
>> I have been tasked, by the school I work at, to connect a goal post to 
>> a porta cabin side wall, so as to prevent the posts from falling and 
>> hurting a pupil.
>>
>> Looking at the lower porta cabin wall (it is the wall that is on lower 
>> ground than the entrance side, at about 2 to 3 foot lower) it looks 
>> like a skirt of ply has been nailed onto it, but initial investigation 
>> does not give me much info. A stud finder does not give me any 
>> indication of a anything substantial behind the skirt (I suspect metal 
>> has influenced it. I have taken off a small air vent to look behind, 
>> but there turned out to be just three 19 mm holes in a row behind it. 
>> Short of finding a dentist sized mirror and a dark afternoon, I can't 
>> see me finding out if I could use this as a hard point
>>
>> I really want to fasten something a bit higher up the wall; hence...
>>
>> How is a porta cabin constructed?
>>
> I would have thought that it's a much better idea to do the job properly
> 

OK then, I'll pass the job up the line and get county out to do it.

Dave

In article <dgq2jf$ret$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, 
davenpat@btopenworld.com says...

> Can anyone tell me if there are any hard points in a porta cabin?
> 
> I have been tasked, by the school I work at, to connect a goal post to a 
> porta cabin side wall, so as to prevent the posts from falling and 
> hurting a pupil.
> 

Can you not fix it to the ground instead?

"Dave"  wrote in message 
news:dgq2jf$ret$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...

> Can anyone tell me if there are any hard points in a porta cabin?

....

To judge from the work needed to make one secure on our industrial estate, 
probably not.

Colin Bignell

On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:31:12 +0000 (UTC), Dave
 wrote:


>Can anyone tell me if there are any hard points in a porta cabin?
>
>I have been tasked, by the school I work at, to connect a goal post to a 
>porta cabin side wall, so as to prevent the posts from falling and 
>hurting a pupil.
>
>Looking at the lower porta cabin wall (it is the wall that is on lower 
>ground than the entrance side, at about 2 to 3 foot lower) it looks like 
>a skirt of ply has been nailed onto it, but initial investigation does 
>not give me much info. A stud finder does not give me any indication of 
>a anything substantial behind the skirt (I suspect metal has influenced 
>it. I have taken off a small air vent to look behind, but there turned 
>out to be just three 19 mm holes in a row behind it. Short of finding a 
>dentist sized mirror and a dark afternoon, I can't see me finding out if 
>I could use this as a hard point
>
>I really want to fasten something a bit higher up the wall; hence...
>
>How is a porta cabin constructed?
>
>Dave
>
>ps  I googled for this and found lots of sites that would sell me a 
>porta cabin  :-(


Couldn't you pass long bolts through the wall, with metal plates on
the insude to spread the load?

sponix

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 08:28:09 GMT, wibble@email.com (s--p--o--n--i--x)
wrote:


>On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:31:12 +0000 (UTC), Dave
> wrote:
>
>>Can anyone tell me if there are any hard points in a porta cabin?
>>
>>I have been tasked, by the school I work at, to connect a goal post to a 
>>porta cabin side wall, so as to prevent the posts from falling and 
>>hurting a pupil.
>>
>Couldn't you pass long bolts through the wall, with metal plates on
>the insude to spread the load?


...or simply paint goalposts on the outside?

sponix

Rob Morley wrote:

> In article <dgq2jf$ret$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, 
> davenpat@btopenworld.com says...
> 
>>Can anyone tell me if there are any hard points in a porta cabin?
>>
>>I have been tasked, by the school I work at, to connect a goal post to a 
>>porta cabin side wall, so as to prevent the posts from falling and 
>>hurting a pupil.
>>
> 
> Can you not fix it to the ground instead?


No. But would you believe, the games master wants to play football on a 
slightly sloping piece of tarmac  :-(

At the upper end of the slope is the porta cabin and no grass, hence the 
requirement to anchor to the building. At the other end is grass. Now 
tell me where he is coming from?

Dave

s--p--o--n--i--x wrote:


> On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 08:28:09 GMT, wibble@email.com (s--p--o--n--i--x)
> wrote:
> 
> 
>>On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:31:12 +0000 (UTC), Dave
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Can anyone tell me if there are any hard points in a porta cabin?
>>>
>>>I have been tasked, by the school I work at, to connect a goal post to a 
>>>porta cabin side wall, so as to prevent the posts from falling and 
>>>hurting a pupil.
>>>
>>
>>Couldn't you pass long bolts through the wall, with metal plates on
>>the insude to spread the load?
> 
> 
> ..or simply paint goalposts on the outside?
> 
> sponix


LOL, now that's thinking laterally  :-)

Dave

nightjar <nightjar@ wrote:


> "Dave"  wrote in message 
> news:dgq2jf$ret$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> 
>>Can anyone tell me if there are any hard points in a porta cabin?
> 
> ...
> 
> To judge from the work needed to make one secure on our industrial estate, 
> probably not.


That is what I expected.

Thanks to all for your replies

Dave

Dave wrote:

> No. But would you believe, the games master wants to play football on a 
> slightly sloping piece of tarmac  :-(


It's character-building, innit?


> At the upper end of the slope is the porta cabin and no grass, hence the 
> requirement to anchor to the building. At the other end is grass. Now 
> tell me where he is coming from?


Obviously he doesn't want to get his Timberlands muddy in wet weather.

Owain

Dave wrote:


> Can anyone tell me if there are any hard points in a porta cabin?
> 

Jacking legs perhaps otherwise no.


> I really want to fasten something a bit higher up the wall; hence...
> 
> How is a porta cabin constructed?


If its a rollalong (often mistaken for portacabins) it has substantial 
floor skid members but the walls are quite thin sheet material.

Owain wrote:


> Dave wrote:
> 
>> No. But would you believe, the games master wants to play football on 
>> a slightly sloping piece of tarmac  :-(
> 
> 
> It's character-building, innit?
> 
>> At the upper end of the slope is the porta cabin and no grass, hence 
>> the requirement to anchor to the building. At the other end is grass. 
>> Now tell me where he is coming from?
> 
> 
> Obviously he doesn't want to get his Timberlands muddy in wet weather.


I never thought about that  :-)

Thanks for the info  :-))


Dave

Badger wrote:


> Dave wrote:
> 
>> Can anyone tell me if there are any hard points in a porta cabin?
>>
> Jacking legs perhaps otherwise no.
> 
>> I really want to fasten something a bit higher up the wall; hence...
>>
>> How is a porta cabin constructed?
> 
> 
> If its a rollalong (often mistaken for portacabins) it has substantial 
> floor skid members but the walls are quite thin sheet material.


The walls are all thin sheet, but there looks like a substantial bit of 
timber that some skirting boards have been nailed to. So perhaps you are 
right on the construction.

As I said earlier, I'll pass the problem onto county.

Many thanks to all.

Dave

On 21 Sep 2005, Dave wrote that s--p--o--n--i--x wrote that Dave wrote



>>>> I have been tasked, by the school I work at, to connect a goal
>>>> post to a porta cabin side wall, so as to prevent the posts
>>>> from falling and hurting a pupil.
 
>>> Couldn't you pass long bolts through the wall, with metal plates
>>> on the insude to spread the load?
 
>> ..or simply paint goalposts on the outside?
 
> LOL, now that's thinking laterally  :-)


Seriously (FWIW), I think both of those are *excellent* lateral-
thinking ideas -- particularly the painting-on of goalposts.

What about trying that out with the games master?  (Honest question;  
it's worth exploring.)

-- 
Cheers,
Harvey

In article <dgs72k$bhc$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, 
davenpat@btopenworld.com says...

> Rob Morley wrote:
> > In article <dgq2jf$ret$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, 
> > davenpat@btopenworld.com says...
> > 
> >>Can anyone tell me if there are any hard points in a porta cabin?
> >>
> >>I have been tasked, by the school I work at, to connect a goal post to a 
> >>porta cabin side wall, so as to prevent the posts from falling and 
> >>hurting a pupil.
> >>
> > 
> > Can you not fix it to the ground instead?
> 
> No. But would you believe, the games master wants to play football on a 
> slightly sloping piece of tarmac  :-(


Is it too late to take him back and get another one?

> 
> At the upper end of the slope is the porta cabin and no grass, hence the 
> requirement to anchor to the building. At the other end is grass. Now 
> tell me where he is coming from?
> 

Dunno, but I know where I think he should be going ...

In article <KskYe.13104$ws4.960@newsfe5-win.ntli.net>,
   Badger  wrote:

> If its a rollalong (often mistaken for portacabins) it has substantial 
> floor skid members but the walls are quite thin sheet material.


Portacabin is actually a trademark, and they are very protective of it.
'The Bill' did a story which involved one burning down calling it a
Portacabin and they sued and won. Seems genuine Portacabins don't burn.

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